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Based books on meditation and eastern spiritualism?

>> No.18973688

The One Year Manual was neat

>> No.18973701

The Zen Teachings of Huang Po

>> No.18973727

>>18973671
Read Suzuki on Zen

>> No.18973733

The Zen Teaching of Bodhidharma
don't even need to read the whole thing, you'll likely "get it" halfway thru

>> No.18973739

>>18973671
there is literally none and I will tell you why: because Buddhism is ephemeral and lasts only when there is a buddha.
here is the chronology of eastern teachings

Vedas:
The Jews of the East are called Brahmins and they are saying that to please blue gods, the Jews, I mean the Brahmins , have to kill horses and cut very special woods in order to burn it and dance around the fire while chanting ''''''''''sacred'''''''''''' sentences called mantras. Brahmins live off the royal families and have a comfy life, spending their day doing rituals mandated by the king, because the local jew, i mean Brahmin told him that the gods were somehow not pleased with him...
At this point karma rebirth and meditation are not in the Vedas and do not matter. The only way to live the holy life is to be a born a Brahmins and do ritual by dancing around a fire and killing some animals once in a while.

Buddhism and so on
Then Buddhism, Jainism and some materialist gurus came along and said the Vedas and Brahmins are full of shit. Sainthood is not hereditary for instance. Buddhists introduce karma, aggregates are not self, and very precise meditation and their only goal is to ''end suffering''. They do not give a shit about politics. The Jews get super triggered and write the Upanishads as a counter attack.

Upanishads
From now on, in the Upanishads it's wrong to kill animals to please the gods and they say any past killing was ''''''''''''symbolic''''''''''''
They say that sainthood is not hereditary and instead Brahmins should meditate once in a while. They do not say what meditation is since they don't even know themselves. They just heard the word from the buddhists and jains, so they just mention the word and cross their fingers their audience will move past that.

>> No.18973744

>>18973739

Buddhism dies
Buddha died a long time ago already and buddhism with him. The Brahmins are still seething at the buddha and start to kill whatever remains of buddhism from the inside by making up new teaching like Mahayana inside the buddhist monasteries. There is barely any filter at the entrance to become a buddhist monk, so everybody charismatic could join and change the daily rules and the teachings.
The ''''buddhist'''''' bramins create new '''buddhist'''' sutras for the first time written in perfect sankrit [the language exclusive to the brhamins] in the exact same prose as the brahminical texts, but they say that those sutras are totally the Budhdas teaching '''dude just trust me lmao'''.
Now in buddhism there is a '''''primordial mind'''' which '''encompasses everything'''' and it's the ''''''''''''true self''''''''''''. Doing ''''''''rituals''''''''' makes good karma and anybody can be enlightened just by saying ''''''''''mantras''''''''''.

Some Brahmin tard called Patanjali decided also to write a manual on meditation. Since Brahmins made that shit up in a rush in the Upanishads ,, they can't pad their manual with custom teachings, so they copy word for word the buddhist manual. But this time they call it ''''''''''yoga'''''''''''''''and they use ''''''''''''''the breath'''''''''''' in order to ''''''''''''''reach Brahman'''''''''''''''.


Buddhism has been dead for several centuries and what is left is various Brahminsical-buddhist intellectuals struggling to differentiate Vajrayana, Mahayana and Hinduism, saying each one is better and different from the others. They make up lots of contrived mental gymnastics, but since they all reject the buddhist claim that ''things don't have any essence'', their teachings get more and more confusing and more and more the same. At this point in buddhism, buddha is literally the essence of the universe and to get enlightened you have to do some rituals on the order of the newly introduced concept of the local Vajrayana guru [the buddhist equivalent of a brahmin] while saying some mantras. Buddhist fucking love mantras at this point.


Nowadays, the situation is the same with
- buddhism still dead
-hinduism-mahyana-vajrayna still saying they are different but still saying the exact same things
-lay people try to do meditation, but they either do the non-buddhist meditation like all the zen ''do nothing'' crap as per >>18973727
>>18973733

or do the the meditation from buddhist commentaries also written centuries after the death of the buddha.

>> No.18973811

>>18973739
>>18973744
Do you have any sources to back all of these claims up? Not rhetorical by the way, I'm genuinely interested.

>> No.18973846

>>18973744
>Buddha died
Yeah that was the whole point

>> No.18973913

>>18973739
>>18973744
I bet you get invited to a lot of parties right?

>> No.18974135

>>18973739
>>18973744
you are based my friend.
i always suspect the originals buddhist were materialists and cynical in a way.

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>>18973671
start with the 'jeets

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18974718

keyserling's travel diary desu

>> No.18976058

>>18973739
>>18973744
True, but sad.

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>>18973744
>it's another hyperprotestants-complain-about-mahayana episode
Ālayavijñana and tathāgatagarbha are not opposed to anatman. You'd realize this if you weren't so busy complaining about a supposed subversion

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>>18974712
Don't forget Jeets 2: Hydraulic Poo-in-Loo

>> No.18976158

>>18973811
Seconded, I'm also curious.

>> No.18976752

>>18976158
No, he has no sources and in fact the consensus among scholars is that the earliest Upanishads predate Buddhism by centuries and were speaking about karma, transmigration, liberation, meditation etc centuries before Buddha

>> No.18976767

>>18973671
The Yoga Vasistha is the Zhuangzi of Indian literature

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18976891

Don't get kiked by other posters, this one is really good intro.

>> No.18976932

>>18976891
Based intellectually ghettoized poster

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>> No.18978812

>>18973739
>>18973744
shutup lol

>> No.18978917

>>18976891
This retard misrepresented Buddhism. And every Buddhist would laugh on this bullshite

>> No.18979221

>>18976752
And yet there was no "correct" hinduism based on these that would conquer Asian continent, like Buddhism did. It seems even people who compiled them didn't know their true meaning.

>> No.18979254

>>18979221
>And yet there was no "correct" hinduism based on these that would conquer Asian continent
Hinduism is not a proselyting religion like Buddhism is so that is meaningless as a mark of correctness. Within India, people turned to Hinduism en masse over other doctrines like Buddhism and Jainism.

>It seems even people who compiled them didn't know their true meaning.
Why would you say that? I dont see that to be the case

>> No.18979682

>>18978917
enlighten us.