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>Just joined a zoom discussion group of Philosophy students from University of Cambridge
>The topic is supposed to be Descartes
>They're gossiping about which of their classmates slept with whom

>> No.18993385

>>18993377
Yeah, Ivy leaguers are 80% just rich kids whose parents got them in one way or another, and 20% actually brilliant people who slowly grow to hate the 80%.

>> No.18993390

>look at me I'm a pish posh faggot who is too closeted to talk about sex
this is how you sound, OP

>> No.18993398

>>18993390
The topic is supposed to be Descartes, as advertised.

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>>18993398
>The topic is supposed to be Descartes, as advertised.

>> No.18993409

>>18993385
You know money doesnt buy good grades right?

>> No.18993417

>>18993390
>t. coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

>> No.18993418

>>18993408
DUDE SEX LMAO SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
you are a worthless faggot and on equal standing with women because you retards treat sex as a personality trait

>> No.18993420

>>18993409
I knew so many dumb girls in my school who just drilled the curriculum in their heads and got nearly perfect GPA. Grades don't mean shit, at least in the US.

>> No.18993439

>>18993377
So which ones have you fucked?

Because you’re not talking text.

>> No.18993440

>>18993418
>>18993417
and you treat it as something that you need to avoid like the plague. That's why none of you autistic faggots ever getting pussy.

>> No.18993443

>>18993420
You cant memorise your way to good schools. You would know that if were in one

>> No.18993455

>>18993440
damn... how can I be a based PUSSY getter like you, anon? teach me your ways

>> No.18993456

Update: Another one just lighted up a joint.

>> No.18993460

>>18993440
>have sex touch grass hahaha

>> No.18993461

>>18993443
Cope, Ivy League Brainlet. Make sure you mommy and daddy know about your insecurities and they’ll ensure you get into the graduate program money can buy

>> No.18993468

Academia in 2021 is a joke. If you're a minority or you went to private school, you should know you're not there because of your intelligence or aptitude.

>> No.18993469

>>18993377
Demand that they discuss Descartes. Demand it. Clench your fists, grit your teeth, and demand it. Who are you to shun your duty? How dare you attend Cambridge University, and shun your duty? Demand it! Insist that you discuss Descartes! Chase them from the temple! Expose them for frauds! Demand that they discuss Descartes!

>> No.18993471

>>18993456
Start reading Mein Kampf loudly, it's the complimentary reading to Descartes.

>> No.18993479

>>18993443
dude our valedictorian went to Stanford. I knew her very well and I would not say she was very smart. She was a prudent diligent girl and did all of the stupid shit US colleges require like join this charity group or that team etc. But I did not ever hear a single unique point of view from her. She mostly parroted shit and just did what was required of her. The system in place is not meritocratic, only children and delusional soccer moms believe it. It does the job, but when you strain it to the extremes of 5% application rates, it becomes more about ticking boxes and less about actual talent. They literally have to make dumb arbitrary choices because they'll have 5 great candidates who are kinda the same. At that point it all becomes about milking the application process and not intelligence.

>> No.18993482
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18993482

>I fucking love sex. My favourite position? Hmm, let me think, that's a really intriguing question. I'd have to say 69... it totally gets my dick cumming, it does. I also HATE virgins... I mean, why don't they want to have sex? Like, c'mon, who doesn't love SEX! I love the feeling of my dick cumming inside a girl's ass... it's so delectable. Come on, just have sex guys. SEX! HAVE IT! Have SEX now! FUCKING HAVE SEX YOU VIRGIN!

>> No.18993493

>>18993443
>t. has never met people who went to "good"/"prestigious" schools
There hasn't been a single worthwhile piece of philosophy out of Oxbridge for half a century.

>> No.18993496

>>18993482
haha yeah man i love pussy too lol. feels good to be a sex haver and not a gross virgin lmao

>> No.18993498

>>18993460
Unironically yes

>> No.18993500

>>18993482
That's not quite it. Have sex incel is an imperative delivered to the people who clearly need it, since every waking moment of their mind is consumed in the fires of unfulfilled and frustrated passion.
To such people, I think they should just have sex.

>> No.18993501

>>18993409
Money buys grade inflation.

t. grader of rich kids

>> No.18993510

>I kinda liked it when Descartes said... 'All Jesus did was to teach men that they loved themselves, that they were slaves, blind, sick, unhappy and sinful, that he had to deliver, enlighten, sanctify and heal them, that this would be achieved by men hating themselves and following him through his misery and death on the cross'...
>Yeah, I liked that part too, anon.
>EHHHHH! WRONG! WRONG! HAHA! THAT WAS PASCAL! THAT WAS PASCAL! HAHA! HAHA! YOU FUCKING IDIOT! YOU FUCKING IDIOT! YOU PSEUD! THAT WAS PASCAL! HAHA! THAT WAS PASCAL! HAHA!

>> No.18993511

>>18993461
>>18993479
>>18993493
There's a difference between US and UK education system. SAT isnt even comparable to A-levels

>> No.18993523

>>18993377
This is why Plato said that philosophy could only be properly pursued by the celibate.

>> No.18993534

>>18993443
You can just bribe your way to good grades and test scores. Did you know that in Greenwich, CT, where all the rich Jews live, like half the students were taking the SAT with extended time for "learning disabilities"? You can also buy admission to Harvard for around $1m.

>> No.18993541

>>18993377
You should show them your autistix power

>> No.18993551

>>18993482
>>18993496
nice me too i'm glad us fellow sex havers can discuss sex and having it like normal sex havers do

>> No.18993558

>>18993511
I applied to both the US and the UK and the UK system is much more sane. You apply to 5 places from a single site, the entire process is quite simple and isn't full of shit unrelated to academics. Then you will most likely get a conditional offer, which guarantees acceptance given a certain grade/test score (I did IB, so it was the final IB score for me).
On the other hand, the US system is extremely opaque. There is a lot of personal shit they ask and there is an obligatory essay with some vague vapid topic like 'what inspires you?'. All that shit made my blood boil at the time. They also make decisions before you even graduate, so my IB score didn't mean jack shit to them, because the IB exams are taken right before graduation. The entire system is a fucking mess that at the same time feels very rigid and tickboxy.

>> No.18993562

>>18993551
yeah bro today my gf gave me a bj and then i fucked her doggy style and then she let me cum on her tits. it was crazy man. tomorrow i think im gonna do anal with her lol. i love sex so much

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18993564

OP here. One thing I've noticed that there's almost difference in the style of speaking between people of regular unis and people of elite unis. Even the content of speech is nearly similar

>> No.18993569

>>18993564
almost no*

>> No.18993581

>>18993564
>>18993569
That’s because both people are similarity situated in their retardation — just one happens to come from immensely wealthy parents

>> No.18993599

>>18993564
The patrician class has long since dissolved into mediocrity.
Which is also the root of resentment since they're entirely unimpressive yet continue to benefit from their unearned privilege.

>> No.18993604

>>18993581
But one kind gets top grades and writes a personal statement convincingly and the other kind doesn't. So there are differences underneath which aren't apparent from the surface

>> No.18993605

>>18993564
that's because they're average, talentless frauds (including you, OP), whereas the spiritual successors of all that has been good and noble about our human enterprise have been skirted away from those decaying, feckless halls by the grace of God

>> No.18993633

>>18993564
Since the 1990s the entire global elite has congealed into a transatlantic immigrant melange whose diversity of race and sexual preferences is matched only by its uniformity of opinions and manners. They are all upper middle class Californewyorkers mentally, even if they are demisexual genderqueer Jewish hapa streetshitters who live in Williamsburg but spend summers at home in London.

Not only do immigrants from other countries and continents regress toward this mean, but even the extremely rich, the children of bonafide old money families, are stripped of their old money behaviors and pulled down into nigger-rich California/New York "life's a party, but also I'm a good person and I care about the little people!" personas. Old WASP families now exclusively have transgender racemixing "queer" prodigal children.

They all go to the same schools, they all know each other, they all feel basically at home in their segregated enclaves even if they're on different continents. They even have the same washed-out California non-accent with its slurring elision of gaps between words and its flattening out of peaks and valleys in intonation. Listen hard and you can hear an Indian from London speak Californian when she talks about fat gay latinxs.

>> No.18993634

OP here, I decided to rescind my previous comments and hostilities and instead asked my zoom meeting if they believed Descartes would tolerate me coming out trans and how I can apply his philosophy into my transsexuality.

>> No.18993637

>>18993604
>pays someone to write a convincing personal statement
FTFY

>> No.18993638

>>18993604
Are these difference directly correlated to intelligence or are those just some arbitrary measures of worth we invented? For instance, I'm a math BA and my essay writing skills are far from great. My grades for stuff like French or drama weren't that great either, just not my thing. But I mogged everyone in math and I'm currently a grad student at a very good state school. While some kids at prestigious schools are indeed talented people, you will learn that a lot of them are just good at networking and bullshitting people. This applies to all places, not just Ivies. A lot of phd students I know got in because so-and-so said a good word about them to so-and-so. Nepotism is undeniably there and just like >>18993385
said, one doesn't exclude the other.

>> No.18993726

>>18993409
>>18993443
get a load of this faggot

>> No.18993730

>>18993385
Correct. Its just a place for rich kids and elitists to go to. This is what philosophy has been reduced to.

>> No.18993834

>>18993633
can you tell me how to write like this

>> No.18993873

>>18993834
Not the guy you responded to but if you're not autistic and know enough about the problems it comes to you.

>> No.18993885

>>18993469
I feel like this is sarcastic

>> No.18993911

Update: A guy got roasted by the entire girl group because he was complaining about a girl who changed her mind about having sex with him after they planned it for a month.

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>>18993911
I want to kill everyone in the zoom call so bad. None of them deserve to live. My hatred for these faggots gets worse everyday.

>> No.18993955

>>18993885
It's only partially sarcastic. I genuinely want you to lay down the law, and tell these people firmly that this is about Descartes, and they can go to fuck about in a student pub if they want to fuck about.

>> No.18993957

>>18993938
cope faggot

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>>18993957
>c-ccope faggot!

>> No.18994003

>>18993377
what's the link?

>> No.18994004

Send us the zoom link you faggot.

>> No.18994046

>>18994003
>>18994004
The host won't let you in if you're an unknown faggot, faggot

>> No.18994053

>>18994046
I'm not unknown. I'm John Cena.

>> No.18994107

>>18993440
>you don't have sex because you shun sex
Brilliant observation

>> No.18994123

Maybe they are discussing Descartes, but a malevolent demon is controlling everything you perceive, so you think they are discussing sex?

>> No.18994130

>>18993409
money buys everything anon
everything

>> No.18994201

>>18994123
OP, possibly raise this as an issue to the zoom, see how it relates to 'Ergo Cognito Sum' if our perceptions, and therefore thinking, is so impressionable as to be thwarted by demons.

>> No.18994334

>>18994046
a recording then?

>> No.18994360

>>18994107
>t. virgin
lmao

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>incels ignoring the majesty of gossip
ngmi

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>>18993440
>NOOO YOU MUST FORNICATE
Have you tried not sinning?

>> No.18994453

>>18994442
They think there's no other way to live

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>>18994453
>t.

>> No.18994619

>>18993409
Anon I......

>> No.18994656

>>18994370
what is magistical about gossip?

>> No.18994959

>>18994370
>>18994656
There’s something funny about calling the most petty thing imaginable majestic

>> No.18995155

>go on a 4channel board
>the topic is supposed to be literature
>they're frogposting university gossiping

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>>18993398
>The topic is supposed to be Descartes, as advertised.

>> No.18995680

>>18994479
Projection

>> No.18995684

>>18995344
Thanks for chadding me anon

>> No.18995688

>>18994442
Sin is either an arbitrary concept or an appeal to nature

>> No.18995693

>>18993409
Neither does intelligence.

>> No.18995804

>>18993377
lol yeah i joined the philosophy society in my first year of uni after being encouraged by my Mum to try and meet likeminded people with similar interests, all they cared about was drinking and hooking up, I left after half a semester and felt like a fucking idiot for believing for a second that it could have been anthing but absolute shite. uni clubs and societies need to be abolished, and all social contact at univeristy should be discouraged and penalised

>> No.18995829

>>18995804
>>18993377
As someone who is gonna apply to uni soon, which subjects have got the truly smart people? I don't mean smart as in being able to solve complex problems. I mean people with original thoughts and opinions, with whom you can have fruitful discussions

>> No.18995890

>>18995829
They talk about trannies all day long on 4chan, don't you know?

>> No.18995915

>>18995829
Philology

>> No.18995923

>>18993420
Academic success doesn't distinguish between intelligence and rule following/conscientiousness.

Women with immaculate transcripts are usually just neurotic weirdos with all sorts of made up anxieties. Talk to them and you'll find they've never had an original idea in their lives.

>> No.18995926

>>18995829
lol just lol

>> No.18995964

>>18995829
sorry, i can't help you there anon. I don't think you'll find many at University to be honest. what are you thinking of studying? The only advice I can give is not to think that your interests (which I'm assuming include literature and/or philosophy) need to dictate what you study.
Most lecturers aren't even capable of original thought, but the thing to watch out for is posturing and posing from people who aren't capable of having an honest or open discussion about anything - which was most people on my degree. The kind of people who have read one book by one philosopher and make that their entire personality.

>> No.18995965

>>18993633
Very astute.
Scratch liberal "diversity" and you'll find a deeply pernicious homogeneity.

>> No.18995985

>>18995964
>The only advice I can give is not to think that your interest need to dictate what you study
Why not

>> No.18995990

>>18993377
you know ppl at school talk about stuff other than school? this is just a natural result of being forced to rely on zoom chats as your only social outlet during COVID

>> No.18996003

>>18993377

Aren't you putting Descartes before the whores?

>> No.18996019

>>18996003
KEK

>> No.18996034

>>18996003
at least something good came out of this thread

>> No.18996066

>>18993377
>They're gossiping about which of their classmates slept with whom
I think it's Clarissa and David, therefore I'm going to spread this rumor.

>> No.18996081

Ivy leagues and elite unis are a meme. The people there are just as retarded as people in state unis; the only difference being that they are richer.

t. state school undergrad to ivy league grad school

>> No.18996084

>>18996081
Government pays for everyone's tuition in the UK retard

>> No.18996107

>>18995985
It's not that it necessarily shouldn't, study whatever you want. Just that you shouldn't let a hobby or interest decide the shape of your life. Think about what you want your life to be like in 10, 20 years time, and decide on your degree (or vocational course) based on that. I studied literature and philosophy because that was my interest and hobby, but what i really wanted to do was Horticulture because I wanted to spend my life working outdoors with plants. Now i have a miserable office job.

>> No.18996110

>>18993633
Good post anon. Cursed timeline.

>> No.18996152

>>18995829
I don't think there is going to be any magical subject that's going to have all the wonderful smart people in it, that kind of thing is a fantasy. The subject itself can't act as a gatekeeper on its own. These 'people' you speak of are probably spread across the entire uni and it's dumb luck if you'll ever come across them and befriend them. At least that's my experience so far, though I might just be especially unlucky.

>> No.18996167

>>18996152
Not him but there must some subjects that have the likelihood of attracting more smart people than others

>> No.18996289

>>18993510
Underrated post.

>> No.18996363

>>18993409
It quite literally does

>> No.18996378

>>18995829
you are better off talking to the homeless

>> No.18996407

>>18993377
>>They're gossiping about which of their classmates slept with whom
You should remind them that Descartes had famously berated his friends for essentially being simps.

>> No.18996428

>>18996407
Really? QRD? Big if true.

>> No.18996594

>>18996407
Source?

>> No.18996627

>>18996428
I don't have a quote, this is something I remember from my Descartes course in Univ. His friends once asked him why he didn't want to marry when he had women throwing themselves at him, he essentially told them they liked ugly dumb broads so they shouldn't speak (not exactly, but that was the spirit of the retort).

>> No.18996640

>>18996627
Cringe

>> No.18996777

>>18993409
i envy your naivety

>> No.18997150

>>18996167
Possibly, but there is no filter for people who aren't thoughtful and intelligent themselves. Ergo, the majority of the class will be those kinds of people. Not that they're especially dumb or anything, it's just that there could always be better people, at least from my point of view.

>> No.18997786

>>18993377
My roommate is the biggest tool I've ever met. One of the first things he said after hearing the pro-Trump video I was watching talking about the "fucking refugee crisis". I'm not pro-Trump. A moment later he's brought people from my dorm over and now complaining about fascism. Pretty sure he broke into my room and stole my porn USB to gossip about later. Coming here was honestly a mistake; all my classes are online, and the last thing I need keeping me awake is some kissass bringing people over every second because he wants to play the host. Watching social climbers trying to schmooze, backstab, and crawl through life makes me wonder why people don't go postal more often, but then again he's studying commerce so maybe it's just part of his career path.

>> No.18998326

>>18997786
UoC?

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>>18993409

>> No.18998362

>>18993511
UK education is the greatest fucking joke I've ever been through. I just taught myself everything I needed from my textbooks one summer (further maths) and that ends up forcing you to learn 2/3 of your required A-Levels. And then my 3rd was easy for me. My American friends had to do more than 3 subjects lmao.

>> No.18998372

>>18996084
Not entirely true, it's just subsidized from my understanding, things are the same costs almost no matter what university. Secondly, rich families are more likely to send their kids to private schools were they get drilled for their A Levels, potential entrance exams, and interviews. Additionally, wealthier families can afford things like tutoring

>> No.18998376

>>18995829
Taking whatever subject you want and slowly fishing for the free souls.

>> No.18998409

>>18993460
YES

>> No.18998416

>>18993634
Howd that go

>> No.18998447

>>18993377
> joined /lit/
> the topic is Literature
> …

>> No.18998482

>>18995923
Hey i remember u from that other thread where that tripfag was BTFO n u said exactly the same thing lol

>> No.18998521

>>18993440
I don't think that anon hates sex in and of itself. We all know that sex is great but I believe that anon's indignation comes from the fact that literally every single human alive today between ages 15 and 35 reduces every single discussion to sex one way or another. People are simply OBSESSED about talking about it. You would expect that being in an environment where only smart people and intellectuals gather would allow for a break from this topic however that simply isn't the case today.

>> No.18998770

>>18993551

Indeed. Is there any limit to the sex-havers points of discussion on having sex? I'd doubt it. Sex-having is the sex-havers most fertile plot of discourse (if you'd mind the pun). It's like the old saying goes: sex having comes to those sex-havers whose having sex is the most sex-having.

>> No.18998775

>>18998770
based fellow sex haver

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>>18996003

>> No.18998785

>>18994959
>the most petty thing imaginable
That would be crying about your classmates on an anonymous imageboards.

>> No.18998824

>>18993511
Honestly shocked to find out that the Americans don't take any kind of formal exam linked to school itself. From what I gather the SAT is a kind of broad multiple choice test and the level of mathematics/english is supposedly equal to or even a little bit easier than this country's GCSEs taken at 16 and what's more they can retake the test as often as they'd like. No wonder Americans complain about their country's educational institutions when the entrance is so non-academic, especially if they concern themselves more with sports and vacuous extra-curricular activities than with passion for the subject. If they are not preparing for exams, what do Americans actually learn in school then, do they just get given a general crash-course of their national history or whatever their particular school decides to teach? If nothing has bearing on any exams for chosen subjects, seems just like some kind of social jungle where any kind of learning takes second place to keeping the chimpanzees preoccupied for the allotted 8 hours so they can be supervised. Regardless, American school years definitely sound more enjoyable than places with a definite structured approach

Don't know whether Britain's approach is a positive or a negative however, sitting two sets of massive and arbitrary national exams across 10+ subjects and then 3-4 specialised subjects is certainly not fun for a 16 and 18 year old, especially when they are so important, with failing in any subject basically barring you from even applying to any of the country's top institutions, even knowing someone personally who was rejected from interviewing at Cambridge for a History application because he had received a '6' (equivalent to a B) in the chemistry GCSE exam of all things

>> No.18998865

>>18998824
>do they just get given a general crash-course of their national history or whatever their particular school decides to teach?
Classes are typically taught out of a textbook in elementary and middle school, complete with quizzes and essay questions, and a grading rubric for both in the teacher's edition. In high school you get away from textbooks a little bit, since electives typically don't have a state-assigned textbook it's up to the teacher to supply their own materials. Lots of photocopies usually, but it's down to the enthusiasm of the teacher.

> American school years definitely sound more enjoyable than places with a definite structured approach
It heavily depends on your environment. Quality of education ultimately comes down to individual teachers and how rich your neighborhood is. In terms of pressure though, there's basically none. The standards have been lowered to practically nothing, and even when I was still in school it was incredibly easy to skate by doing almost no work.

>> No.18998869

>>18995964
>The kind of people who have read one book by one philosopher and make that their entire personality
that's based. Having ideas and foundation to live your life in the most rewarding manner. No different from religion.
What YOU are is a cringe emaciated fag who has excessive pride in consooming as much books as possible.

>> No.18998870

>>18998824
>Don't know whether Britain's approach is a positive or a negative however, sitting two sets of massive and arbitrary national exams across 10+ subjects and then 3-4 specialised subjects is certainly not fun for a 16 and 18 year old, especially when they are so important, with failing in any subject basically barring you from even applying to any of the country's top institutions, even knowing someone personally who was rejected from interviewing at Cambridge for a History application because he had received a '6' (equivalent to a B) in the chemistry GCSE exam of all things
This sort of shit pisses me off. I had access to my laptop in class so I just didn't do any work in my GCSEs at all and fucked them all up (nor did I care lol) My A Levels however? I did very strongly in A*A*A (Econ, Maths, Further Maths), however, my entire university prospects were fucked up due to my lackluster GCSEs

>> No.18998888

>>18996003
i dont get it

>> No.18998896

>>18998870
>A*A*A
Shit, which uni did you attend?

>> No.18998899

>>18998888
descartes before the whores
cart before the horse

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> just joined an anonymous, literature orientated, weeb image posting board
> they don't talk about literature
>I don't think many of them read

>> No.18998912

>>18998896
None, I'm a NEET. I should have gone for A*A*A* but I didn't care enough to. FM needed something like 71% for the A* but only 61% for the A, and I hate maths so it wouldn't have made a difference.

>> No.18998914

>>18998899
How are people appreciating that lame ass joke? Fucking hell

>> No.18998917

>>18998888
based quads of retardation

>> No.18999108

>>18998870
Sorry to hear, yeah it is terrible how much your attitude at just 15/16 years old can determine something like that. Feel as if this is a unique thing to younger generations, since so many more people are now trying to funnel into the same handful of most-academic institutions which have practically not expanded for centuries, where before entrance to these places was much more forgiving, now you basically need a spotless record to even apply (and be interviewed in the case of Cambridge or Oxford).

You essentially need to be a soulless bot during your GCSE years to get a clean sweep of A*s/As and not mess up any of the 10 x 2 subject exams, and unless you have been made aware before hand from outside sources as to their actual significance, you will not be able to induce yourself into enough of a fear-driven autism state to memorise all that you need to across Buddhism/theology/biology/chemistry/physics/Aeneid/cold war/german history (depending on what you're taught) as well as a foreign language or two, as even if it's all at a mid-level depth, the sheer breadth you need to ingest is really soul-destroying and I would shoot myself rather than do it again. At least with A-Levels you can weed out all the disparate topics to 3-4 you can tolerate being tested on with a vast amount of content, but taking GCSEs at 16 is definitely far too early and unfairly trips up anyone who can't summon enough autism to learn all those arbitrary facts and details before they've even started to grow facial hair

>> No.18999225

>>18999108
idk with my GCSEs my teachers just told me I was retarded but I did my GCSEs at my third secondary school (parents sorta fucked up out of good intentions though), I'd just been to an IB school which just outright refused to teach me. I had just as little interest during my A Levels, I just found them easier because I had teachers who I could speak to about random shit in Economics and I sorta broke how to do well in A level maths. I got diagnosed with a whole bunch of mental disorders too, everything from ADHD to bipolar lol. Can't say I even cared about not going to oxbrdige though? I deliberately missed the deadline because I absolutely hate academia and just come here to read about books that I can't actually read due to ADHD.

>> No.18999301

And this board is supposed to be about literature and your are gossipping about some random Cambridge students

>> No.18999323

>>18995829
unironically STEM
particularly physics/maths, tho the top eng can usually go toe-to-toe with natsci niggers

>> No.18999345

>>18993604
Getting top grades is a joke in the US and these people pay to get coached on writing their personal statement and have it revised.

>> No.18999385

>>18999323
>I don't mean smart as in being able to solve complex problems. I mean people with original thoughts and opinions
>unironically STEM
there are a grand total of 0 people in STEM who meet what anon is looking for. STEM attracts brainlets who are content with the shallowness of scientific thought.

>> No.18999425

>>18998326
Worse

>> No.18999447

>>18999385
this is phenomenal cope from unemployable humanities cucks
the smartest people I have ever met are not IBD or MBB niggers (where the "best" humanities go) but rather renaissance STEMfags. The average IQ of a stem cohort is much higher than a humanities - which means that the extremes of 140+ were its easy to lurk /lit/ and /sci/ without trouble are easy.
muh "lets only talk about philosophy" is brainlet tier cope
the truly intelligent are those who can do both.

>> No.18999477

>>18999447
>t. seething midwit stem major
the time to major in STEM was 20 years ago.
now they export your job to pajeet and chang to at half the salary
and the "best" in humanities go to grad school not a soulless corporation you literal mongoloid
you have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.18999486

>>18995688
I’ll take that as a “no”, then

>> No.18999519
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>>18999477
again, we're talking about the top of the bell curve. I'm about to start at a hedge fund next week and earn more than 95% of people will ever see in their entire lives. These jobs are not being exported to chinks and poos.
>best go to grad school
holy shit is that what you tell yourself hahahahahahahahah

>> No.18999539

>>18999519
>I'm about to start at a hedge fund next week and earn more than 95% of people will ever see in their entire lives.
Will you marry me?

>> No.18999546

>>18999539
I only date chinese or jewish women, sorry

>> No.18999551

>>18998914
> t. Some faggot who needed the joke explained to him.

>> No.18999555

>>18999519
>I'm about to start at a hedge fund next week and earn more than 95% of people will ever see in their entire lives
cringiest larp i've read in a while congrats

>> No.18999558

>>18999519
what job?

>> No.18999559

good
descartes fucking sucks
>>18994370
based

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>>18999559
Imagine hating Descartes, literally picrel tier take.

>> No.18999573

>>18999558
senior quant researcher
>>18999555
seething trips
loads of finance niggers on 4chan, go to sci for once and you'll see

>> No.18999608

>>18999385
This is cope on the level of when nerds say they are too smart for sports lol

>> No.18999920

>>18995829
Pure mathematics.

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>>18996003
Kek

>> No.18999962

>>18998870
I’m the opposite. I got 8 x A* and 1 x A in GCSEs but then only AAAA (maths, physics, further maths, physics) in A levels. It stopped me from getting into UCL. Nevertheless I took a gap year and applied to the US instead and got into a great uni. It helps that I took the SAT at 19 and got a 1570. I cannot fathom how Americans can study years for the SAT and not at least score >1300

>> No.18999967

>>18995829
You're asking for a small miracle that 18-20 something year olds transcend their god given right to be retards during their peak retard years. In short, you are asking for the impossible.

>> No.18999995

>>18999962
Americans do not study the SAT at all. People who are "serious" maybe take it twice or three times. There is zero formal instruction specifically catered to SAT questions or format. The basic math track does not line up with concepts tested on the SAT. All SAT prep is a grift for private school kids who can afford to pay for it.

That said the test itself is insultingly simple. Any students with any intellectual merit at all hate the test for its simplicity. It should be much much harder to help delineate the kids at the top.

>> No.19000058

>>18999995
>Americans do not study the SAT at all.
I didn't study for it, but lots of strivers spend years preparing to take the test.

>> No.19000074

>>18993390
Unironically this

>> No.19000109

>>18999962
>AAAA
>It stopped me from getting into UCL
how?

>> No.19000116

>>18999920
why pure math and not math?

>> No.19000136

>>18993510
kek, that’s so me

>> No.19000145

>>18998870
damn I got the exact same A levels as you but I went to Cambridge and got an econ degree. not really using it but it was a good experience. you could have just applied for the next year and got in most likely. there was a geezer around like 30-35 in my cohort

>>18999108
I think you're overplaying how hard it is to achieve good GCSEs desu, if you're smart anyway. It might have changed since I did them in 2014 but I literally only spent around 3 weeks prior to them all revising and got 8 A* and 3A (mediocre state school). Remember you're competing against the whole country and to be in the top 15% isn't even that impressive really. I agree if your attitude is unforgivably bad then it kind of fucks everything else up, but I knew many people who didn't have a hard on for GCSEs and still got many A*s

>> No.19000156

>>18999477
>too enlightened for STEM
>nevertheless understands the STEM labor market better than STEM workers
>sees that all STEM workers who are dumb enough to be replaced by "pajeet and chang" are midwits
>concludes that all of STEM is midwits who are about to be replaced by pajeet and chang
>"you have no idea what you're talking about"

>> No.19000216

OP is the kind of guy who goes to the college bar and talks about work

>> No.19000217

>>18993633
This post accurately describes the current state of the world. This is what our lower brow brethren refer to as GLOBOHOMO, and it's just getting started.

>> No.19000252

>>19000109
Wanted to study maths and they wanted A*A*A. Went into my exams cocky and got BTFO, partly because I decided to leave school and self-study everything.

>> No.19000323

>>18993562
>Trying this hard

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>>19000252
>maths at UCL
hahahahahahahahahahah

>> No.19000620

>>19000145
>not really using it
what doing now anon?
always wondered what bridge econ dudes got up to after graduation

>> No.19000633

>>19000323
cope virigin i get more pussy than you lmao. i fcuked your mom too lol

>> No.19000664

>>18996003
fucking kek dude

>> No.19000673

>>18998888
retard digits observed and made note of

>> No.19000690

>>18996003
kuk

>> No.19000693

>>18993409
Hahahahahahah

>> No.19000707

>>19000593
I got filtered by the imperial entrance test
Thankfully it didn’t work out. I study compsci instead now.

>> No.19000790

>>19000707
shit sorry didn't mean to come off as a dickhead - yea just wondered why tf UCL over ICL for maths seeing as both in London (and those requirements look exactly the same)

>> No.19000877

>>19000707
what did you apply for at imperial?

>> No.19000879

>>18999385
A plant needs water and soil to grow strong and sturdy, take away one or the other and it will either have weak roots, or it will wither in the sun. Likewise, an healthy mind needs both the beauty of literature and the rigor of math to flourish.

>> No.19000921

>>19000156
Yep, if you're the top cream you still pull in money.

>> No.19000947

>>19000145
seconding this, I got the exact same GCSEs from a bang average comprehensive without working too hard. in 2016 before they changed them though.

>> No.19000968

>>19000156
Young white men abandoning the humanities in order to become some computer dweeb is why our culture is in decline and why the elites are importing third worlders

>> No.19000978

>>18993440
I wonder how normies are so obsessed with sex while denying that procreation is the basis of life?

>> No.19000988

>>18993385
>Cambridge
>Ivy League

>> No.19000992

>>18996003
Now I am become the 30 year old boomer, appreciator of puns.

>> No.19001033

>>18995829
Yeah I was going to say math or physics

>> No.19001056

>>18993385
Only non-Ivy students say things like this.

>> No.19001197

>>19000145
>overplaying how hard it is to achieve good GCSEs results
Yeah quite possibly, like you I started around a month before whereas you're meant to begin a couple months before so might well just be the case that I made the experience a lot more arduous. Don't think it's changed much, but they did divide the A* a couple of years ago into an '8' and a '9', the latter being top 5% now for the top grade. Not sure why I remember it being so terrible an experience, think it was because despite the late start I was very autistic about getting the top grade almost to the point of psychosis, probably would have found the experience a lot more pleasant if I weren't such a neurotic schizoid, but there you have it.

>I agree if your attitude is unforgivably bad then it kind of fucks everything else up
I think this is the worst thing, but whereas I think you're referring to doing pretty well as a mix of A*/A/B and no or very few Cs if it can't be helped, as in the example I mentioned even a 'B' in a totally unrelated GCSE subject can sink a hole in an application now to the point where they won't even bother to interview you, and that was a few years ago now, I suspect this will have only gotten worse with Covid grade inflation

>> No.19001213

>>19001197
>a 'B' in a totally unrelated GCSE subject can sink a hole in an application now to the point where they won't even bother to interview you
That's only for Cambridge/Oxford though obviously, I doubt the likes of Durham, St Andrews or London universities care enough about that yet, but as I said maybe that is becoming the case now

>> No.19001222

>>19001056
You're right. It's closer to 98% and 2%.

>> No.19001310

>>18999225
>idk with my GCSEs my teachers just told me I was retarded but I did my GCSEs at my third secondary school (parents sorta fucked up out of good intentions though), I'd just been to an IB school which just outright refused to teach me
That's sad, can imagine that teachers saying things like that really can sabotage you when you're that age, or even just their attitude towards you. Was lucky that nearly all my teachers were sympathetic characters.

>I had just as little interest during my A Levels, I just found them easier because I had teachers who I could speak to about random shit in Economics and I sorta broke how to do well in A level maths
Ah well anyway, sounds like you found some interest there at least, isn't it the areas that you want to just find out random shit about that actually are most interesting to you?

>Can't say I even cared about not going to oxbrdige though? I deliberately missed the deadline because I absolutely hate academia and just come here to read about books that I can't actually read due to ADHD.
Fair enough, just meant any of the usual top unis I suppose, but they're probably less autismo about needing the GCSE grades compared to the A-Levels. Not the worst strategy if you can't bring yourself to read the works themselves, although it's somewhat like ingesting someone's shit to get your nutrition, there'll be a little bit of the original work in the take, but 8/10 it's encased by absolute shit.

>> No.19001352

Throughout my undergrad I had sex zero (0) times. I'm really quite grateful for that, my parents are working class and basically treated me like aristocracy almost, letting me just study and not work, I didn't even have sex on my mind, I liked what I was learning and was completely sheltered from the real world lol. University must be horrible these days.

>> No.19001476

>>18995829
I did a maths degree at my uni, and there was basically a small dungeon at the bottom of the maths building where undergrads and doctorate students would hang out. These people loved what they were studying, there were always discussions about stuff they were learning/researching and they were always really well informed and interesting (for me at least). Outside of that, there was one PhD student who would bring up the most retarded nonmaths stuff that was more funny than anything else; he'd talk about 4chan (mostly biz) and the (then) rapidly growing bitcoin (when it was like 10k) and bitbean, and he started a conspiracy that breakfast is the least important meal of the day and its just big-grain trying to brainwash you into eating junk carbs. Looking back, no one ever mentioned sex. They were all maths nerds; some did have gfs, but they never discussed sex, probably because it just didn't register on the list of interesting things going on in their life.

There was also a very nice but albeit misguided 28ish yo (likely autistic) financial maths phd guy (probably a virgin God bless him) who fell in love with one of the younger undergrads (18) and was tempted to buy her a several-thousand-dollar trumpet, even though she didn't play trumpet. Sometimes women would come, they'd either talk about shitty "indie" bands or argue that race isn't genetic, these women I later found out would rely on my help to understand some of the content in a study session where for the first time in my degree I was the smartest person in the room (my coevals all seemed much better educated than I, either from prodigious intellect or going to a private school, in which the teacher can't just hand the smart kid a textbook and say "here learn calculus" while the smart kid, lazy as I am, proceeds to modify a nerf gun to shoot ballbearings.

Most of the undergrads were reddity; they lacked any world experience to be interesting (myself included I guess), they only knew stuff about their own field. I imagine every field would be similar, so I will say from this long winded reminiscing to do a degree that interests you, so that you can meet with other people who are equally interested. In a lecture theatre of 200 you should be able to find at least 5 like-minded individuals.

>> No.19001693

>>18995829
none. no subjects. these people do not exist in any meaningful number and you should study something that will practically benefit you.
t. very disappointed humanities student at ostensibly elite uni

>> No.19001860

>>19001476
so did the phd guy end up with her?

>> No.19002513

>>18999962
Rejected from UCL, only got accepted into one of my 5 choices (due to shit GCSEs, Covid grade inflation (I know for a fact I would have gotten my A levels as my school's top subject was economics historically and I was outright top of my class) and as for maths? I was getting 100% on normal maths tests and further tests ~65% in march, that time in 2019 i was getting Ds. My only grade to change was normal maths after the adjustment, which was actually my strong point. I was predicted A*A*A* by December but in the holidays started going off my medication because I hated it and so lost motivation to work. How sad lol

>>19000145
I applied to universities a year late but I got rejected from 4/5 universities. I did not want to go to one in the UK anyway and am considering going in Europe desu.

>> No.19002533

>>19001476
interesting candid post anon, i enjoyed reading this, you could be good at journalistic or gonzo writing maybe

>> No.19004079

>>19001693
What subject would you go for if given a second chance

>> No.19004105

>>18993377
Are heterosexuals and homosexuals common nowadays?

>> No.19004592

>>19001352
Where did you study?

>> No.19004745

>>18993455
Stop being a hermit

>> No.19004755

>>19000978
>denying that procreation is the basis of life
Who does that?

>> No.19004806

>>18995688
>arbitrary concept
>source: my ass
Stop raping kids btw.

>> No.19004853

>>18993377
You think Descartes never gossiped about who had a cheeky wank in la Flèche's dormitories?

>> No.19004927

>>19000058
baste VALS

>> No.19005022

>>19001860
Never stuck around long enough, iirc she stopped hanging out/got other guys to white knight her and tell autistic guy to back off. There is a low probability he ever made it, unfortunately.

>> No.19006354

>>18994370
This

>> No.19007425

>>18993482
Everyone in my UNI library is staring at my laughing right now, fuck you anon lol

>> No.19007465

>>18996003
kekkk