/lit/ - Literature

>>19021997
Is tribalism a sin?

>>19021997
It breaks the directive to not judge others I guess. Might also be pride of a sort

>36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
>37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
>38 This is the first and great commandment.
>39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
>40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets
Though SJW antiracism is also a sin
>44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you

>>19022050
Before anyone tries to take a Jewish reading of the term ‘neighbor’ here, I refer them to the parable of the Good Samaritan

>>19022050
This doesn't actually cover all forms of racism does it. Eg if you think some race is dumb but you dont hate them

>>19021997
Yes, archbishop Tyrone Niggeur and renowned NY theologian Abraham Conversostein have both defined it as the greatest sin.

>>19022072
>Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself
Is not ambiguous, judging them for being dumb is not very loving

>>19022012
Remember that the ‘don’t judge’ stuff is pulled out of context. Jesus was talking about hypocrisy and saying that one who judges will be judged by that standard. One can absolutely judge the wicked. John 7:24. We are also taught to abhor evil (Rom. 12:9, just has God hates evildoers and their deeds (Psalm 5:5) and we too ought to hate them. (Psalm 139:21-22). Now I don’t think blindly hating an entire race could be supported Biblically though

> Is racism a sin?

Depends on what you mean by racism. phyletism is a heresy. there is nothing wrong with noticing blacks are really fucking dumb or jews are sexually perverse

>>19022072
Why would it be a sin then?

>>19022102
Are you supposed to not notice if someone is dumb? Does this apply to individuals too

>>19022132
Just because someone’s dumb doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole to them

>>19022108
>>19022132
If you loved them, you wouldn't care. You'd feel pretty bad if Jesus stopped loving you because you weren't as smart as him

>>19022139
>>19022149
Didnt say anything about being an asshole or hating them. That was the point of the hypothetical

>>19022050
>Though SJW antiracism is also a sin
???
>>19022072
>if you think some race is dumb
>but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

>>19022139
Yes, indeed.

>>19022149
>TFW you'll never measure up to Jesus' Ashkenazi IQ

>>19022162
The sjws should love the racists is his point I take it, love your enemy

>>19022165
>associating Jesus with a bunch of inbred schizophrenic kike rats
Anon, I...

>>19022171
So you're saying that they don't?

>>19022206
Of course not. SJW stuff is the first real move past Christian ethics the West has done for a while. No forgiveness or mercy, only victory

>>19022178
Not sure why he associates them with Ashkenazi, Jesus would be a Mizrahi (which I guess are as retarded and inbreds as the arabs, according to multiple /his/pol/ infographics I've seen around here)

Theologician*
Fuck, everyone here is a fucking retard

>>19022268
Retard
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/theologian

>>19022178
>>19022235
I don't actually think Jesus was Ashkenazi, I was joking because Ashkenazi Jews are known for having high IQs. It was a meme that circulated around 2016ish.

>>19022273
>because Ashkenazi Jews are known for having high IQs.
It’s chutzpah
https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/12/20/ashkenazi-iq-as-high-as-they-claim/

>>19022158
So you assume every Jewish person is perverse, and every black person is stupid, yet you still unconditionally love every Jewish person and every black person? Is that the hypothesis here?

>>19022272
>quoting online shit
FUCKING RETARDED

>>19022308
No you assume eg the average iq is lower, not every one of them

>>19022308
my oldest brother is learning disabled, and I love him. Tbh the liberal conditioning his love on a person being intelligent is pretty fucked up.

>>19022050
does "love thy neighbor" really imply you have to watch your people become a minority in their community and eventually be wiped out?

>>19022234
So they're vindictive and cruel, then.

>>19022347
>does "love thy neighbor" really imply you have to watch your people become a minority in their community and eventually be wiped out?

Unironically yes and that's why you should throw away Christianity and become a neo pagan National Socialist

>>19022357
>Unironically yes
you're going to have to elaborate on that anon

>>19022357
Sounds like too much work, why not simply move to Singapore or something. "Look at me, I am the immigrant now"

>>19022347
>your people
Read Ecclesiastes. That shit is vain

>>19022383
>this shit is vain, jews tell you
>while being hell bent on preserving their own people

>>19022383
which specific part of Ecclesiastes related to this?

>>19022347
>44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you

>>19021997
It depends on the motive of said racism. In the case of the average American with BBC envy, yes, it's filed under the sin of envy.

>>19022316
Seems incompatible with unconditional love for each member of the group as an individual to me

>>19022441
that doesn't seem to at all relate to what i asked

>>19021997
If the bible is left up to interpretation then anything goes. Biases will supercede and you can use the bible to argue for and against anything.

I dont understand how christfags are any different from moral relativists if you go forward with this approach.

>>19022480
By this logic noticing that a group of down syndrome guys were dumb is also incompatible with loving them

>>19021997
MLKjr was an actual minister.

>>19022072
That's not racism. Yeah the current left might throw a fit but this doesnt fall under any meaningful definition of racism. If some races are dumber than others on average then so be it but you still have to treat people with a certain level respect.

>>19022528
Protestants aren’t real Christians, they’re heretics and they will burn in hell.

>>19022514
>having black skin is like having downs

>>19022546
Talking about IQ here

>>19022565
This is a thread about sin and theology sir. Must you bring in discredited pseudoscience like IQ?

>>19022480
>Seems incompatible with unconditional love
Unconditional love is not conditional on IQ, otherwise your mother would have been unable to love you.

>>19021997
The bibble says "love thy neighbor", not "love thy neighbor except if they're brown"

>>19022577
Of course not, but treating someone as merely part of a wider group rather than an individual is

>>19022574
It's about racism being sin and IQ is the largest body of evidence for race differences

>>19022591
Except that wasn't what was said. What was said was having s belief about the average traits of a group. This is not incompatible with treating people as individuals

i love Jesus but I'll always be racist and I'll never get over the disgust I feel toward the fat, the ugly and the disabled. I wouldn't like to presume, but I hope he'll forgive me.

>>19022618
>I hold this group inferior due to their average traits
>I unconditionally love each member of this group
I can see where you're going with this, but it isn't very convincing is it?

>>19021997
Racism didn't exist earlier, it's a made-up american shit in recent years. That's why you won't find it in any theology books before amuttica.

>>19022636
It is the exact same as loving a dumb individual

>>19022641
very dumb opinion, even for a poorfag.

>>19022690
Racism did not exist before americans invented race wars. We had only cultures before.
Prove me wrong.

>>19022717

>>19022717
It would be easier to say that racism doesn't exist, than whatever you seem to be claiming.

>>19022420
>>19022408
Caring about race is vain. The Bible teaches us time and time again not to focus on the worldly or the fleshly yet /pol/tards think that Christianity supports their modernist obsessions with muh White skin. Vanity of vanities

>>19022499
Protestants are heretics, yes

>>19022821
the bible is jam packed with references to how to act, what to do and what not do in the material world, including plenty of instructions to care for things here

>>19022544
K

>>19022647
But you only consider them dumb on account of their race no? Because you haven't IQ tested the individual in question?
The exact nature of your racism isn't very clear

>>19022102
I know one of my best friends is very dumb. I still like him and hang with him tho. He still dumber pile of dung tho.

>>19023037
than*

>>19023029
You wouldn't prejudge any given individual, it's a belief about a class of people in the abstract. Like saying "men are stronger than women" but you will still evaluate each man individually

>>19023076
I don't think you are actually racist then. If fresh evidence came to light, would you change your views?

>>19023076
>>19023112
>they still believe «individuals» exist

I used to have some great articles on this but I can't find them and google insists on showing me anti-racist shit every time i search for it. fuck me it's disgusting how mainstream search engines are.

but basically it's kinism. charity begins at home etc.

>>19021997
Holy shit, christcucks are THIS cucked!

>>19021997
I once asked a priest in the confessional about this issue not to confess as a sin but as conscience formation. He said basically that making a prejudiced judgment about someone of another race to the effect of like... "Oh shit this nigger's in my restaurant it's time for him to leave," and then throwing him out before he even does anything is a sin. On the other hand, if it is an issue of safety, for example, a group of young black hoodlums at night approaching you as opposed to a lost old granny, then yeah, that is what he called "a question of prudence." It is the sort of thing you have to go case by case and can't just outright say racism or judging based on race is a black and white issue (kek).

Me personally I am more guilty of making racial jokes, which I am not sure whether or not falls in the category of sin. It would probably depend on to whom I was telling the joke. Personally I never show my power level except to my immediate relatives and I do plan on giving my daughter and any other children "the talk" about showing caution around certain races. I definitely do not want to raise them with either the boomer or crt perspective but I also don't want them to be crass bigots.

>>19021997

“Racism” isn’t a sin as it’s quite a vague idea, but treating someone with disrespect for no reason is

>>19023861
Faggot wearing a clerical collar with jeans how progressive.

>>19023861
protestantism was such a mistake

>>19023869
Pretty much this. Race can play an element in being disrespectful to someone else, but it is not any different from insulting the elderly, handicapped, etc. It's only become a mortal sin in the secular world because of globohomo.

>>19023852
>a group of young black hoodlums at night approaching you as opposed to a lost old granny
That's not racism though. You have more information other than they are black to warrant avoiding them.

>>19024053
Think worst Hitchens btfo some guy trying this analogy. Pointed out that how they were dressed would be everything: a group of black construction workers would make you feel safer if anything