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If Dante were forced to live in this modern hellhole, he would appear on To Catch a Predator and Chris Hansen would read him La vita nova and ask him if he knew how old Beatrice was. Fuck this convoluted Puritan dystopia.

>> No.19038182
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> According to Dante, he first met Beatrice when his father took him to the Portinari house for a May Day party. They were both nine years old at the time, though Beatrice was a few months younger than Dante. Dante was instantly taken with her and remained so throughout his life even though she married another man, the banker Simone dei Bardi, in 1287. Dante married Gemma Donati in 1285 and had children. Yet in spite of this, he maintained a deep love and respect for Beatrice, even after her death in 1290. After Beatrice's death, Dante withdrew into intense study and began composing poems dedicated to her memory. The collection of these poems, along with others he had previously written in his journal in awe of Beatrice, became La Vita Nuova.
Holy shit, just kys lmao. Also Jesus Christ was Dante a massive simp, literally never got over his oneitis.

>> No.19038213

>>19038182
As many have pointed out, it was common to have a main object of affection throughout your life, other than your wife, and whom you never have a relationship with. It's like courting without courting.

>> No.19038274

>>19038152
cry forever and drag as many people down as you can

>> No.19038376

>>19038213
Not healthy though

>> No.19038415

>>19038182
It's somewhat surprising to find out he wasn't actually a pedo. This is not the way it usually goes with past literary figures

>> No.19038769

>>19038415
Yeah, obviously their AOC wasn't the same as ours and children were given away in marriages (marriages weren't usually out of love) but the past wasn't a pædo wonderland like these faggots want to make you believe.
> Dante said he first met Beatrice Portinari, daughter of Folco Portinari, at age nine, and claimed to have fallen in love with her "at first sight", apparently without even talking with her.[15] When he was 12, however, he was promised in marriage to Gemma di Manetto Donati, daughter of Manetto Donati, member of the powerful Donati family.[13] Contracting marriages for children at such an early age was quite common and involved a formal ceremony, including contracts signed before a notary.[13] Dante claimed to have seen Beatrice again frequently after he turned 18, exchanging greetings with her in the streets of Florence, though he never knew her well.

>> No.19039658

>>19038213
Yes, in our modern and sick era that phenomenon is called “having a waifu”.

>> No.19039674

>>19038182
Beatrice wasn't an actual woman.

>> No.19039754

>>19038152
You're thinking of Petrach and Laura

>> No.19039761

>>19039658
>Yes, in our modern and sick era that phenomenon is called “having a waifu”.
If you write a fanfic as good as Dante did no one would care.
Until then people care.

>> No.19039773

>>19039761
the divine comedy is trash though

>> No.19039837

>>19038769
Marriages were out of love except for the aristocracy.

>> No.19039910

>>19039773
Have this (You), lamest bait ever

>> No.19041076

does anyone know where i could find bilingual editions (english and their original language) of La Vita Nuova and Rerum vulgarium fragmenta?

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>>19039754
> Laura de Noves (1310–1348) was the wife of Count Hugues de Sade (ancestor of the Marquis de Sade).
> She could be the Laura that the Humanist poet Francesco Petrarch wrote about extensively; however, she has never been positively identified as such.[1] Laura had a great influence on Petrarch's life and lyrics. The historical information on Laura is meager at best.
> Born six years after Petrarch in 1310 in Avignon, she was the daughter of a knight, Audibert de Noves and his wife Ermessenda. She married at the age of 15 on 16 January 1325. Not much is known about her other than she did have a large family, was a virtuous wife, and died in 1348.
> Petrarch saw her for the first time on 6 April (Good Friday) in 1327 [when she was about 17 and he 23] at Easter mass in the church of Sainte-Claire d'Avignon. Since this first encounter with Laura, Petrarch spent the next three years in Avignon singing his romantic love and haunting Laura in church and on her walks. After this Petrarch left Avignon and went to Lombez (a French department of Gers) where he held a canonry gifted by Pope Benedict XII. Her possible tomb could have been discovered by the French poet Maurice Scève in 1533.[2]
> In 1337 he returned to Avignon and bought a small estate at Vaucluse to be near his dear Laura. Here, for the next three years, he wrote numerous sonnets in her praise.[3] Petrarch's Canzoniere (Songbook) is the lyrics to her in the troubadour tradition of courtly love. They advanced the growth of Italian as a literary language. They also popularized this form of sonnet that is called Petrarchan sonnet. Years after her death Petrarch wrote his Trionfi, which is a religious allegory in which Laura is idealized.[4]
Again, massive simp but if this is the correct Laura he's not a nonce bro.

>> No.19041917

>>19038152
Age of consent in Italy is 14 so it's fine

>> No.19042877

>>19039674
What was her then? Sophia?

>> No.19042927

>>19038152
You can legally buy loli porn in [current year] and make youtube videos about it
If Dante was alive today the least of his concerns would be society being too "puritan"

>> No.19042931

>>19038769
>Dante said he first met Beatrice Portinari, daughter of Folco Portinari,

When THE FUCK did he say that?
When did he say "I met Beatrice Portinari, daughter of Folco Portinari"?