/lit/ - Literature

>>19040779
ॐ नमः शिवाय ।

>>19040779
"Krishna" is a demon pretending to be Christ

>>19040818
When the night has passed, so shall you

>>19040779
>Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? 21:30
>Seest thou not that Allah created the heavens and the earth in Truth? If He so will, He can remove you and put (in your place) a new creation? 14:19

>>19040818
are christcucks this retarded? Even if you don't accept the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, as the Supreme, Krishna is a hell of a lot older than Jesus

>>19040876
Joseph was a cuck
Muhammad a schizophrenic pedo
Simple as

>>19040887
Ok but the quran clearly talks about these things in its own way:


>The physical world came out of a pre-existing essence where everything resides in a primordial state and has gone through the changes of multiple eras
>time is cyclical and not linear
>heaven and earth were once one and eventually they separated
>this age will come to an end and another age of man will begin

>>19040885
What do you expect from pea-brained zoomers who converted to "own the libs"? They've got zero historical literacy and can communicate only through retarded Bible thumping and insults

>>19040903
>tfw you suffer bc fruit

>>19040779
Who created the essence? Why there is essence in the first place?

>>19040885
Christ is preexistent. He is also prefigured in the Old Testament, just before "Krishna" appears in India.

Krishna is a demon appropriating a facsimile of Christ in order to direct people who have not heard the Gospel towards Satan. Read Scripture.

>>19040912
>HURRRRRRRRR WHO CREATED THING IF NOT MAGICAL JEW SKYDADDY
Nobody, it always existed

>>19040919
>Read Scripture.
Where in the Bible does Khrisna appear? Is it some kind of crossover episode from the show you get most of your information on Christianity from, South Park?

>>19040919
The Vedas are older than the Old Testament according to literally every scholar on the subject

>>19040929
Read Scripture to save your soul from worshipping demons.

>>19040779
>Could it be that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are one big lie and the true religions are the pre-christian ones through which the Gods manifested themselves to all peoples?
I think there is an element to that, yes, because it came from Jews. I mean come on, the people known all through history as being compulsive liars. But I also think as the yugas progressed the religions got dumber and dumber/dumbed down because the people got dumber and dumber and unable to understand the higher gnosis of the mysteries. It became easier to tell them to listen and believe or you go to hell etc.

>>19040937
I have read the "Scriptures" and chose to reject Christianity, suck a fat one christcuck

>>19040919
you are a full blown retard of the highest order

>>19040912
>>19040912
essence is being, being is that which is. being cannot ever not-be, because to-be is its nature. learn some greek philosophy.

>>19040921
Why it always existed and how do you know this?

I am not a Christcuck

>>19040912

>>19040976
Because it did

>>19040974
Why it is its nature? Who created it's nature?

>>19040912
the laws of nature were created by Krishna, Vishnu, Brahman, God, the Supreme, whatever you want to call Him

>>19040983
Why?

>>19040997
How a creator can make something which he himself isn't part of? How could he created physical laws if he himself had never experienced it?

>>19041011
He is part of it. All life is part and parcel of the Supreme, but the Supreme is also separate. The proper term is "panentheism" for this phenomenon

>>19041024
Why he is then not?

>>19040984
what does being actually mean? it means existence. existence cannot not exist, because the nature of existence is to exist.

>>19041029
I don't understand what you're asking

>>19041033
Why there is existence in the first place?

>>19041042
When you figure that out write a book about it

>>19041052
Who has the answer?

>>19041064
what kind of answer are you looking for?

>>19041100
I would run naked on the streets if I knew it.

Death is closer than ever and I am all fucked up. I know I will not bend the knee yet I still "seek". Fuck this trial of Being drenched in complexity signifying nothing. I wish I was never born.

>>19041173
You'll be back here lol.

>>19041042
It is self-affirming. That is all we can know with absolute certainty.

>>19041248
I don't remember shite so it doesn't matter. Nietzsche eternal recurrence is way more terrifying.

India has the 2nd highest population in the world so your fad of reincarnation isn't even taken seriously by the believer of the doctrine.

>>19040779
If I were to guess, it would be the belief in progress that characterizes Judaism and by extension Christianity far more than other religions. Especially when you look at the early Christian and Jewish martyrs, you are touched by a fervent belief in their capacity to "usher in the kingdom". Also, if you have to say "pre-Christian", you are contradicting the assertion that these allegedly true religions had shown themselves to "all peoples".

>>19041251
>That is all we can know with absolute certainty.
Yes, with another why it will go back into the tentacles of uncertainty.

>>19041282
why he pooped hisself?

>>19041326
Afraid of The Heights :(

>>19040885
In terms of religious beliefs, Jesus and Krishna are considered eternal by their respective followers.

Historically speaking, the cult of Krishna-Vasudeva already existed in the 4th century BC and likely originated before then. Veneration of Krishna is mentioned in Patanjali's Ashtadhyayi 4.3.98, dating to the 4th century BC. Krishna of course is a key figure in the Mahabharata, the earliest parts of which date to the 5th or 4th centuries BC. Worship of Jesus obviously starts after his death in the 30s AD. So Krishna worship is far older.

>>19041450
Correction: Panini, not Patanjali

The latter wrote a commentary on Panini's text.

What made the elements?

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>>19041496
At the beginning of every cycle they differentiate from the primordial substance.

>>19041496
Brahman, Krishna, the Supreme. Are you actually interested in knowing or do you want to just ask endless questions? Read the Bhagavad Gita if you truly want to answer these questions. If you still feel unsatisfied, continue to read the Vedas

>>19041624
Not the same fag who asked the question but I have to tell you: recommending the Gita as something evocative of Hinduism in general strikes me as an error. It's my favorite book, but it's easily the black-sheep of Hindu thinking. For instance, where else are you going to find the idea that sankhya and yoga are not antipodes which is nearly omniscient in the Song of God? Especially since it is primarily a pragmatic texts and metaphysics are only brought in to bolster the ultra-pragmatic yoga.

>>19041865
as a Gaudiya Vaishnavite, I always recommend it above all else. It is the central text of my faith and I genuinely believe it's the most accessible for newfags

>>19041865
>Especially since it is primarily a pragmatic texts and metaphysics are only brought in to bolster the ultra-pragmatic yoga.
This is why the Gita is so good though. Abstract metaphysics are going to be useless unless you're in a literal ashram

>>19041897
Based. +10 respect. The Gita — if you are able to live within the divine yoga (which really amounts to a restructuring of the relationship between ego and self)— will reform you into a man-of-steel. Even if you're a bastard like Ravana, tapas can be made perfect.

>>19041935
I absolutely agree. I'm moreso saying that since ontology is not the main focus in-itself, perhaps it would be more confusing when trying to understand "essence". However, as anon said, it is also a very good didactic tool and entry-point.

Does anyone know where I can get a good copy of the brahma purana?

>>19041965
Ah ok, got you.

Should I look into Buddhism if I am interested in Hinduism but hate indians?

>>19041951
Hare Krishna fren :)

>>19042002
Buddhism brought me to Hinduism so sure

>>19041865
>where else are you going to find the idea that sankhya and yoga are not antipodes
In all Yoga texts

>>19041935
>Abstract metaphysics are going to be useless unless you're in a literal ashram
I disagree. If you are trying to pursue the path of metaphysics or knowledge to the fullest, it’s best to go about it in the traditional manner; but even so, simply studying the metaphysical texts on ones own time as a hobby or as part of ones autodidact pursuits can still lead to you having extremely profound and perspective-altering insights or spiritual realizations.

>>19042002
Honestly depending on where you go Buddhism departs pretty radically from the "Indic Character" of Hinduism. Chinese, Japanese, Tibetan, and SEA Buddhism all have their own "flavors".

>>19040779
read nietzsche
the need of a "creator,absolute,god" can only exist in religion with a trascendental world, the problem of infinite regresion is only relevant to those kinds of religions, politheistic religions with local gods just don't care about a first cause beyond all causes, since it's an ilogical abstraction, a phenomenological infinite cycle is much more adecuate to express how time is presented to us humans

>>19043586
The impulse to search for an objective linear understanding of time appears to be in-line with getting outside of ourselves and establishing an objective empirical basis apart from subjective phenomena (as well as a belief in progress). Pagan disbelief in progress ironically seems to have majorly hampered their progress and allowed them to be overcome by (even more ironically) external forces. In this linear time/progressivism we can see the abrahamic religions share a common ancestry with science, although Islam shows far more of the conservative suspicion and dislike of change. These may be "illogical abstractions" within the logic of the system of thought, however; they are vindicated everytime you open a freezer and find your things frozen. It may be good at characterizing subjective experience but the issue is you aren't a discrete unit, nor are you a merely atomic. It's hard to be solipsistic when you are conditioned in part from outside and progress in tangible in human achievement desu. Have you read Gadamer's works on hermeneutics?

>>19043872
linear and ciclical time aren't opposite,

>In this linear time/progressivism we can see the abrahamic religions share a common ancestry with science
that's just false, the scientific method started with the greeks, christianity on the other hand give us the darkages and themoment humanity free itself from the absolute monotheistic paradigm and rediscover the clasical world in the rennaisance is when the sciences as we know started to develop again,, just look at asia and tell me which countries are the more advanced and developed, the muslim ones (oirak, afghanistaan, iran etc) or the buddhist ones(japan, china, korea etc)?

>>19044652
I'm Hindu but Islamic scholars did lead the scientific world for centuries while Christians were burning people for using soap

>>19044680
>Islamic scholars did lead the scientific world
they lead the scientific world in the middle ages, which was the worst era for science, the most important contributions were saving the greek canon from extintion and some math
but they also destroyed the library of alexandria and many other centers of knowledge, all in the name of their "only god", while i don't think monotheistic religion are pure evil, we can't ignore that the idea of a one ture/one god paradigm could lead to levels of ntolerance and dogmatism that are the polar opposite of the spirit of scientific and philosophical progress

>>19044680
muslims are still burning people for goofy reason bro