/lit/ - Literature

>>19335225
What are you reading?

>>19335239
not chinkshit lmao

>>19335239
Just finished the Iconoclasts trilogy. Great ending, though it could've used an epilogue that extended further than back to the ship. Sequel bait, I guess. No idea what to read next. I'll might read The Necromancer's House by Christopher Buehlman since it's the only book by him I haven't read.

>>19335239
Currently halfway through the second book. Its pretty enjoyable.

>>19335398
based

>>19335239
Some Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser

>>19335225

What are some good pulp sci fi to read? Downloaded the big sci fi collection on /t/ wonder if anyone knows any good stuff on there

>>19335239
Assassin's Apprentice the introduction is way too long currently a quarter way through chapter 4.

>>19335714
Just check out charts in the OP and read them.

>>19335398
Book 2 is the worst of the lot IMO, so it's basically all uphill from there.

Please recommend me Fantasy series (or even standalones) on the shorter side! I really want to read more Fantasy but 800+ page books don't feel worth the time commitment, I always feel like I should be investing my time on books of more substance.

>>19335942
Lotr+Hobbit
Earthsea
First Law
Dune
Narnia
Are all on the short side and excellent

There is also a neat stand alone book called Goblin Emperor
Guy Gavriel Kay has written a pseudo historical two part series about ancient China called Under Heaven and River of Stars.
Rothfuss' books are also on the short side, but they don't offer much except stellar prose.

>>19335714
Tek Wars

Someone who is well read in self published works needs to make another chart.

>>19335714
battletech warrior trilogy

Latro in the Mist is next in my que after reading Assassin's Apprentice. If I found it in a recommendations chart and the GoodReads reviews are good has anyone here read it?

>>19336389
i haven't read it but i plan to, several people recommended it here when i asked about i don't remember what. and it's wolfe anyway so you know it won't miss

>>19336389
Soldier of the Mist is one of the most boring books I've ever read.

>>19335225
All /sffg/fags must hang

>>19335239
I'm late with The Scar. I see how weird fantasy is applicable to Mieville's writing.

I want to fuck Yerin

Give me your hot takes on Cordelia's Honor

>>19336689
I want to fuck charity and malice at the same time

>>19336689
Who's Yerrin?

>>19336689
Literally who

>>19336332
I don't trust the taste of anyone that reads self published.

>>19336880
This is a good point but their has some be some decent diamonds among the heaps of shit.

>>19335963
>There is also a neat stand alone book called Goblin Emperor
It isn't. It's the first book in a series.

how do I reinvent SFF?
I was reading some book summaries the other day and it's always the same thing. "Blabla space blabla", "X part of the population vanished", "the hero and an elf make the world a better place"
Every SFF book I pick up, I feel like I've already read it 10 times.

>>19336984
>how do I reinvent SFF?
Be a good writer. So you’re already the wrong guy for it

>>19336983
Isn’t the second book following a side character, and mostly unrelated to the first book?

>>19336984
There's some much wrong with everything you've stated. The worst part is you have no idea that's true.

>>19336844
>>19336878
This is Yerin.

>>19336984
>I was reading some book summaries the other day
I’d say a good start to “reinventing” a genre is to read the actual books, idiot

>>19336994
Yes, but that doesn't make the first book a standalone. There's also a third book and some other related works.

>>19336989
i phrased it poorly, replace "I" with "we"
>>19336995
"you're so wrong"
>send post without any actual fact to back that claim
>>19336998
i've already read too much

>>19337007
>i've already read too much
Not if you think every scifi book is the same, dipshit. Get a new hobby

>>19335942
>I always feel like I should be investing my time on books of more substance.
This is an arbitrary delusion. You may as well ask yourself why read at all when you could be doing something more of "substance"? What is "substance" anyway?

>>19337013
it's either
>skinned scifi that tells a story that could be told without scifi
>the story you've read 100 times (often a Dune ripoff) that is only "original" in the form but not in the substence

Will the Sword and Sorcery genre ever make a come back or is it dead for good?

Ugh, guys, all books are the same. They're all about some sentient being doing something. Where all the books that break out of this mould where it's purely descriptive? Even better than that, where are the works that defy description? I want to read something that is beyond human comprehension. Why haven't we gotten alien literature yet or at least the works by AI? Words themselves are so limiting. I want to experience works of different modalities. That which is inexpressive by language but fully encompassed by other modes of sensation. Better yet, I want to go beyond sensation. We are so limited by our biology.

This is satire

>>19337020
Let me guess, all fantasy is a Tolkien rip-off as well.

>>19337046
this but unironically

>>19337032
Nobody wants to read about some boring hero who represents the peak of toxic masculinity running around killing things and then getting rewarded with a damsel in distress who is usually running around in a thong and is in inexplicably good shape while being breathtakingly gorgeous.

>>19337055
Based on the self-published books I've seen here and in the charts, you'd be wrong about that.

>>19337055
I do and there's nothing wrong with enjoying stories like that.

>>19337020
I’m sorry that books are too hard for you. Maybe try video games.

>>19335225
Ark, Flood #2 - Stephen Baxter (2009)
As with the first book, this is another one where expectations probably need to be tempered, perhaps even more so. The first half is preparation and second half is the journey. That doesn't seem to leave any time for the destination you may think, and you'd be right. The narrative follows a group of preteens well into their old age. Works that follow characters over the course of their entire lives has been an interest of mine and in that regard this doesn't disappoint. There's very little overlap in terms of characters from the first book. Two of my previous readings biased me against this novel. Le Guin had done a very similar story, seven years earlier. The latter half of this one forced me to unfavorably compare it to Paradises Lost, which was better in every way. I don't know if it was an inspiration for this or if Baxter came up with it entirely independently. They seemed remarkedly similar to me. The other is Stephenson's Seveneves which was published six years later. I liked that less than this and being reminded of it was a negative. Sometimes it can be difficult to judge a book by itself, assuming that's even preferable, and that was certainly the case for me with this one. Some of these shortcomings are supposedly addressed by the three relatively short novellas Baxter wrote afterwards, which are collected in Landfall. I'll be reading those very soon as well. I enjoyed Flood more, but that may only be because I had less to immediately compare it to. Without my biases others may fare better reading this.
Rating: 3/5

>>19335239
Just started King of Dogs but it doesn't seem very scifi yet

>>19335239
I just started Stephen R. Lawheads "The Paradise War", part of the Song of Albion trilogy the other night

>>19335239
>Cradle
>Reverend Insanity
idk what the other two books are on your image but clearly you have good taste so I will go read them right now

>>19336689
tfw no mercy gf

>>19337113
based hard muscles, just like the ones on men!

>>19335398
why are people having a hard-on for this series?

>>19336430
any good?

>>19337613
Because it's a fun and simple read. Don't get me wrong it has plenty of issues but I'd rather read it over whatever garbage Sanderson puts out next.

>>19337634
the series looks like it's written for children and zoomers. how much woke shit is in it?

>>19337669
None. Last I checked everyone in the story is a chink so no random black people inserted in and there's no faggots/dykes/trannies. Only notable relationship is the one between the main character and the lead female character. And "written for children and zoomers" describes most fantasy books in general so I'm not sure what that's even supposed to mean.

>>19337617
subjectively yes

Are there any good fantasy books about knights and dragons?
Something like the Last Unicorn or the Hobbit. Well written and suitable for young children.

>>19337757
Plenty of relevant picture books come to mind for very young children just learning how to read.

>>19335239
Rereading Finder (it's brilliant, read it) with the plan of reading the sequels but the clock change has put me in the mood to read some fun trash so I'm currently seeing if anything catches my fancy

>last read cradle when book 4 came out
>up to 10 now
Dunno if I want to reread from the start again or not, book 1 is slow and book 2 isn't that good but I dunno if I'll need context for the third book onwards.
From what I remember the pacing went crazy in book 4 and then it ended at a random point

>>19337727
how much woke shit is in it?

>>19337796
Rereading from the beginning is almost always a silly waste of time, especially when summaries exist. It's not like they have much of a plot anyway.

>>19337711
Eithan (and the rest of the Aurelius family) are very obviously white. I think the dragon king guy looks like a middle-eastern twink. One of the Abadin is black.

Yerin ruins Cradle. What an absolute garbage character. Though, Lindon isn't much better with all his "apologies".

>>19337880
Are you cracked in the head or something?

>>19337757
I highly recommend Prydain
I somewhat recommend Belgariad

>>19337887
Yerin sucks dude. She's a total author's pet. The author apparently went into the series with the intent of creating a cultivation series where the MC does, at time, lose. And while that's true for the MC, unfortunately, Yerin picked up the slack.

>>19337757
>Well written and suitable for young children
Bakker.

>>19337887
He is a proud Hard Gay bakkerchad, simps like you will never understand

>>19336997
Complete cringe

https://twitter.com/FANologyPV/status/1455928084230598658
>If he was reborn as a girl or a boy
Oh no no no no. It's over.

>>19338093
They’re gonna say egwene is ta’veren too

>>19338131
egwene should serve me in the tavern

Why does /sffg/ shit on Sandershit so much? I just finished the original Mistborn trilogy. The dialogue is very reddit at times and it feels kinda YA (especially compared to Bakker, praise be unto him). But I thought the story was pretty good, and the ending was quite satisfying.

>>19337942
Complete homo

>>19338152
He's the McDonalds of fantasy. Churns out generic processed books meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator. He also has no convictions as a human being. He's a Mormon but now he's filling his books with LGBT shit just to placate the current woke crowd. Compare that to someone like Bakker or even Goodkind who stick with their beliefs despite how unpopular they may be among the general readerbase.

what do you girls think about Brandon Sanderson? What should I read from him?

>>19337905
Thank you. Will check Prydain.

>>19338193
This:
https://www.brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-first-law/
After reading this. You'll know to never read anything Sanderson writes again.

>>19338152
I liked Mistborn but I couldn't get through the first chapter of Way of Kings after the two prologues

>>19338199
Disneys Black Cauldron is based on it, and old Disney films are great childrens movies.
Should be amazing in tandem.

>>19338213
>gee brandon, how come your mom lets you have TWO prologues?

Can anybody recommend me a fantasy or scifi/fantasy magazine to subscribe to? I want something like the literary equivalent of Heavy Metal. Weirdness, action, maybe a dose of horror and/or erotica here and there.

where can I find an english version of this

>>19337913
>people are STILL salty that yerin beat lindon one(1) time in uncrowned

>>19338318
You'd be a lot better off looking to grab back issues off the internet. Modern publishing sucks.

>>19338152
because its popular and popular things are bad

>>19338327
Nah. Not really. As I said earlier, I don't even like Lindon. However, Yerin has become the very time of character he was avoiding making Lindon.

>>19338328
That's fair. Weird Tales at least seems to be still having fun (though I don't know if the stories are good), but I don't see a way to subscribe to a paper version; just buy individual issues. Which is too bad.

Pic related is a shirt they're selling (though they're between runs).

>>19337711
>>19337877
I think the people on Emeriss’s continent are supposed to be black, but iirc they only show up for about half a page and don’t even speak the same langauge as anyone else

>>19338347
*type not time

>>19338175
Wait, is Bakker anti-gay? I never got that impression.

Yerin is cute. Fuck off.

>>19338473
>obsessing over a hick sword autist with retarded catchphrases
do yerinfags actually....

>>19338375
He is anti-SJWgay, but he is pro-Hardgay.

>>19338320
Do we look like chinks here?
I don't know what that shit is
>>>/int/

>>19338498
I'd take a sword autist over some of the other whores that pass for "love interests" these days.

Station Eleven HBO series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ECFdDHTFw

>>19338515
Denna isn't a love interest she's a plot device, a forced one but still a plot device to give Kvothe a reason to be a massive retarded simp.

>>19337757
Wizard Knight. Why even post here if there's a Wolfe book you haven't read yet?

>>19338515
they’re a good matchup. By the end of book 2 they’re both retards slutting it up with random people while being salty that the other one is doing the same

>>19338612
Denna started it.

>>19338642
Cuckus Rex

Absolutelly crazy that webfiction has less than 5 good fiction stories. Incredible. Didn't think so much trash could be made.

>>19338791
Hahah go check out royal road, you’d be lucky to find three

>>19338320
https://libgen.rs/fiction/?q=membranes+ta-wei

>>19337034
NTA but have you tried achieving henosis?

>>19338152
It’s not so much that his stuff is bad as there is quite literally nothing good about it. Of course that makes it bad, so...

>>19338175
>He's the McDonalds of fantasy.
What's the $90 prime rib of fantasy?

>>19338791
Name fifteen hundred (1500) bad webfiction stories

>>19337613
Next best thing for the weebnovel faggot.

>>19338978
You already know.

>>19337344
If you like cuck shit, rape, sodomy and all bad shit then go ahead.

>>19339086
so this series is targeted to weebs? thanks for confirming my suspicion that it's mostly for retards.

>>19339099
Elaborate.

>>19338500
>he is pro-Hardgay
Based.

What do you think the uniforms Frank Herbert pictured as he wrote Dune looked like?
From what I understand they wear collars, caps and have patches on their chest so are they picturing modern military uniforms?

Alternating between reading Reaper and writing my own NaNo story.

>>19339297
Especially with all the Houses having their own colors, I was imagining 19th century armies.

>>19335225
Almost finished the Culture series and loved it. Anything similar out there? Apart from the Culture series I've only ever been big on PKD as far as sci fi goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvFpBOe8eY

>>19339819
Forever War but only the first book.

>>19337913
Yes, it feels like the author is more in love with Yerin than Lindon.

Slow thread. Feels like it was livelier even just a couple weeks ago, but I don't visit here much. Just off hours or what?

>>19337055
>hero who represents the peak of toxic masculinity running around killing things and then getting rewarded with a damsel in distress who is usually running around in a thong and is in inexplicably good shape while being breathtakingly gorgeous
sounds fucking awesome

>>19337055
absolutely based

>>19335225
>>19335239
As he walked through the donkey sect's main headquarters, this young master reminisced on his recent rise to powerhouse within it.
Walking towards the meditation room, the lesser sect members gave face, because who was he to them ?
He was a powerhouse of the 9th sow
All their lives they had strove and failed to achieve what he had in a single hour.
Opening the doors to the meditation room he made preparations to consolidate his gains as he steadied his firm foundation.
Like a carp, blarping a larp he retrieved his most recently acquired heavenly treasure, the scrotum of the holy unicorn.
Circulating his energy in the way the man from Nantuckett had forcefully instructed him too, he opened his inner pathways to accept the transcendent treasures bounty.
As he sat there for hours upon hours savoring the heavenly nectar of the transcendent unicorn the last of its cloudy liquid dribbled down his chin, and collecting it with his tongue to not waste a single drop, he wondered just how impressed Mei would be with his formidable gains.

I'm reading through Game of Thrones. I'm about 1/3 through the first. I went through it pretty blind. All I know is

>Winter is coming
>Everyone was mad that the show ended badly
>People die

Nothing specific because I'm a social retard who doesn't really follow popular shit.

Anyway, the book is pretty standard fantasy. I enjoy it enough to finish the book/series, but not enough to know why people think it's the best ever

>>19338205
But that’s wrong you dummy.

>>19341025
jon cute

>>19341130
pea brain

cute

>>19341154
Tyrion (sp) also a qt

>>19341327
no he's literally the ugliest person in westeros

>>19341330
He sassy tho

>>19341356
What do you call what GOT did to Tyrion, where they both remove all of a character's bad traits from the books (he's actually an evil bastard) AND remove all of his good parts (they turned him into stupid dum dum with no emotional change)

>>19338152
>Why does /sffg/ shit on Sandershit so much?
>Sandershit

>>19337055
Man, this post has remainded me, I got to read princess of Mars.

>>19341829
What the fuck is this dialogue?

>>19336332
John C. Wright

>>19341829
Yep, that's gonna be a 5 star from me, dawg.

>>19342075
Does it trouble you?

>>19339272
r scott bakker

>>19340977
lol

>>19335239
>what are you reading
atm blood meridian, but last sci-fi stuff i listened to was warhammer 40k. i'm new to lit and already got a few good book recommends so thanks for this post

>>19342325
anyone else?

>>19335239

Just started Hyperion. Its not bad but kinda goofy at parts. The writer breaks a lot of rules someone else would get thrashed for but he makes up for it by having a super unique story.

Hey can someone explain to me why the end of Wheel of Time is so creepy?
Rand saves the day and seals the dark one but it turns out that the entire universe is stuck in a nevending timeloop where the same stuff happens again and again with a few minor differences. So the dark one becomes free again and the Dragon fights him again for all eternity over and over.
Isn't that just pointless in the end?
Nothing ever changes and people will just continue suffering forever.

>>19342478
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return

>>19342478
Yeah. It's pretty fucked up. Actually, one of the main villains joined the dark one for exactly that reason. So that he could commit an eternal suicide and escape the wheel.

>>19342478
On top of that Rand is cucking himself. He's fucking and impregnating his harem with Moridin's body meaning his eventual future children with them will be Moridin's biological children not his. The ending is all kinds of weird.

>>19335225
How much incest in a space fantasy story would a publisher consider acceptable?

>>19342778
Well it'd be pretty hard to surpass Heinlein's character of Lazarus Long. Also it really depends on the publisher and what market you're trying to sell to. Be aware that a lot of publisher sensibilities change with the times. So they might vehemently oppose any kind of incest but throw in a tranny and you'll be gold.

>>19342801
What if the novel's first introduced character is gay? Specifically, the first chapter consists of the main character (a prince and product of incest) sitting in on the trial of his lord (who is simultaneously his half brother, uncle, and nephew) being put on trial for homosexuality?

>>19342904
It varies from publisher to publisher. Most don't care as long as your shit sells. I've sent my drafts to a bunch of publishers and only one brought up the subject of LGBT stuff in a very awkward email after which I just ghosted them. Don't put a gay character in your for the sake of meeting a quota, it shows. As for your original question incest is fine as long as it serves a purpose. Having a character go through struggles because they're a product of incest sounds fine. Incest only becomes weird if you're blatantly focusing and fetishizing it.

>>19338515
me a /sffg/ poster on the right getting cucked by someone who doesn't read

>>19342778
I feel like it would be a lot more acceptable if it was a brother or sister of similar age preferably twins.
If it was parent child it becomes a lot more messed up

>>19342961
There are at least half a dozen parent child relationships in my book, resulting in at least two dozen children and grandchildren. Every single major character is a product of incest. I think it fits thematically but might be a little much, especially if I want to tell family and friends about it.

Stop writing about incest

>>19343183
>Every single major character is a product of incest
w-wow. you might need to reign in your fetish a bit more

>>19335225
>>19332572
Yeah, but I don't like the role she gets, and in general later books don't click with me.

Recommend me some scifi and fantasy for smart people

>>19343252

>>19343221
No. I hate when the protagonist has a sister who is either shoved into the background, killed off or just forgotten about. My protagonist has a sister and he WILL impregnate her and then deal with the consequences. Some of the greatest and oldest stories of humanity have incest in them, don't know why it's such a taboo subject nowadays.

>>19343271
>My protagonist has a sister and he WILL impregnate her
Based

>>19335398
Ghostwater was the peak. Underlord was good but afterwards is when the fanbase establishes their acceptance of stagnant mediocrity.
>>19337613
It's the most popular Amazon self-pub fantasy series and the first big popular English xianxia series so it has a big rabid fanbase.People's first xianxia and so on.

>>19343301
How sad.

>>19343301
>It's the most popular Amazon self-pub fantasy series
OK. But is it filled with woke shit? Is that why it's so popular?

>>19343315
It's anime in written form. Literal powerlevels. In the most popular and easily-presentable format. It's Westernized compared to actual translated xianxia so your opinion may differ. I don't care for how much of a groveling fool the MC is.

>>19343328
sounds like a pass for me.

>>19342778
That sounds like a question for your literary agent.

>>19343328
That doesn't answer the woke/SJW question. How much of that garbage is in those books? Are there plot lines of people dealing with muh gender identity, or of some retarded POC screeching about not being around people that look like them? Any of that retarded nonsense?

>>19343252
Atlas Shrugged by Alisa Shekelberg

>>19343367
No. Best way I can describe it is a shonen manga in literary format. No woke stuff, in fact there isn't a single gay character in the entire series which is actually an accomplishment considering the current state of the genre. I guess being self published lets him avoid publishers trying to force that in.

>>19338152
I only read the first Mistborn. The plot was super bland and super predictable, but worst of all it was all shittily paced. Book could have easily been like a 100 pages shorter for the generic story it is was telling.

>>19343382
Thank you for the insight.

>>19335225
HG Wells "The Star"
HG Wells "The Crystal Egg"
HG Wells "The Sea Raiders"
John Wyndham "The Kraken Wakes"
John Wyndham "Trouble with Lichen"
John Wyndham "The Chrysalids"

If you claim to be into sci-fi or horror and haven't read these, you're lying.

you guys watching foundation? What do you think so far?
Haven't re*d the books personaly, and my friends who did hate the series (it takes too many liberties I believe).

>>19343542
I read the first book a few months ago and enjoyed it. The first episode of the show was very good. I dropped it after the second episode. I wasn't into the gender swapping and forced diversity just to make blue checkmarks happy. I also wasn't interested in the retarded romance between Gaal and Raych.

I've since read the show has gone completely off the rails, and I'm glad I did not sink any more time into it.

>>19343606
2nd ep was the worst one, the recent ones are way better
Funny to see all these people triggered because the show changed someone's gender tho

>>19342478
>He wonders aloud about the point to the Pattern when people are reborn over and over again destined to create the same mistakes.

>Lews Therin Telamon whispers in Rand's head, shockingly sane compared to Rand. He reverently says that they live again to have a second chance. Rand is frozen with shock, the world goes still as he thinks about Tam al'Thor's words to him: Why go to battle? What is the point? Because each time you live again you get to love again. Rand remembers thousands of loves across the infinity of time and the peace, and the joy and hope it brings each time. Rand realizes that if he lives again then maybe she will as well. Rand knows the answer to Tam's questions -- he fights because he did something wrong and he lives again to fix it. He wants to do it right this time.
Pretty big chapter. Some events might have to keep happening, but there are an infinity of new ways they can turn out.

>>19343474
Wells was an insufferable left authoritarian manlet, and I say this as someone who tolerates several female authors.

Recommend me a fantasy kino with giant women

>>19342778
DAW published Tanith Lee's Birthgrave trilogy which involves a demigod woman and her son fucking everybody else in the world and remaining unhappy until they fuck each other and become husband and wife and that's the happy ending
this was in the 1970s and Tanith Lee remains one of the foremost fantasy/SF authors in the entire genre

>>19343737
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/43934/realmshaker-a-giant-progression-litrpg

>>19343183
not quite as bad as the "55% of my word count is the word 'nigger'" anon but its up there

>>19343315
>But is it filled with woke shit
No. There are no gays, no trannies, and no blacks. Stop assuming this about everything; /pol/ has poisoned your mind.

>>19343301
>xianxia
>>19340977
into the trash it goes

>>19340977
>>19344015
Is that Reverend Insanity?

>fantasy setting
>it has firearms

I finally read dune. It's shit. What a disappointment. The first half is great, but then it just becomes the paul atreides fellatio festival - with a side of fremen semen. A mary sue through and through.

King.

Simple as.

>>19344334
>book about a 'god emperor'
>complain when mc is gary stu
Really?

>>19344401
I wasn't expecting it to be played so straight it might as well be a space bible.

>>19344363
That's not King.

>>19344412
Duh

>>19344317
It can be done well.

>>19344363
never EVER

>>19335239
Roadside Picnic

>>19344811
Great book. Keep going with the Strugatskys after if you haven’t already

>>19336485
>/sffg/fags
>not sffags
I figured a pseud like you would dig genre fiction

>>19343183
>Every single major character is a product of incest
what the fuck anon

>>19344837
I started it last night, already halfway through. I've got so many books on the backlog I'll try through their work but it'll take a while

The power scaling beyond Cradle is a bit much. The Abidan are literally smashing across galaxies and destroying solar systems that get in the way. If the level above Monarch is where you first enter that pond, then it surely its like the copper tier to the Abidan's own Monarch tier.

>>19343183
lmao based

What’s the consensus on this? and should I read it or Ringworld first

>>19344467
What is Heroic Fantasy? What are some examples of Nonheroic Fantasy?

>>19344939
Heroic fantasy is basically sword and sorcery but often it has a little more ongoing narrative and is more prone to full-length novels and series, without going full epic fantasy.

>>19344334
To be fair, you need a very high IQ to understand Dune

>>19344334
Frank Herbert was aware of that and Dune Messiah directly tries to tear down that image.

>>19344334
It flew over your head. Everyone is fucking terrified of paul, meanwhile he's having visions of the future where they jihad the known universe. Now you get nothing but tyranny and conspiracies for the next 3 books.

>>19344296
no that is pretty vanilla xianxia

>>19345174
Someone told me RI was better than Cradle then I saw the quality of this "writing"

>>19343924
>55% of my word count is the word 'nigger'
I'm sorry but could you elaborate?

>>19345273
>he doesn't know
oh this gonna be good

>>19335225
Aftershocks, The Palladium Wars #1 - Marko Kloos (2019)
The plot seemed to be loosely based on a mix of post-world wars Germany, which ought to be familiar to the author as he was born and raised in Germany. The narrative was told from four perspectives, two of each from both the occupied and the occupiers. I was only particularly invested in the starting viewpoint character and given the length of the novel, I think having four was too many. The four are: a recently released POW trying to decide what to do with his life, a character who exists to have plot shown to them for the reader's benefit, a human face for the occupation, and a business leader of the occupied.
I had a lot of conflicted feelings about this relatively short nominally military science fiction novel. Probably almost any review will tell you the same thing, that this was only a small portion of a story. By the end of the the book the setting was mostly set up, but that's all. I can only guess at what the overarching plot was meant to be based on the relevant historical parallels. I don't fault him on a commercial basis for spreading it so thin, but as a work of entertainment it left a lot to be desired. As a note, Kloos is a member of GRRM's writer consortium and explicitly thanked Scalzi, whose writing this moderately resembled.
Aside from a few silly moments, this made for fine enough reading, but the problem is what this series holds for the future based on this first novel and the length of his other series. It would seem that each book will progress the narrative as little as possible so that it can be as many as books as possible. Again, I don't fault him for that, but I don't think I'm interested enough to follow through on that premise. I'll probably quit here to avoid becoming committed. Even if they were all already released my answer would likely still be the same. It falls just barely short of being sufficient for me to continue.
Rating: 3.5/5

>>19341829
I'm not sure any context will make this excerpt better

>>19345273
a /lit/ classic

>>19345186
what part of RI is that from? I don't recognize any of that

>>19345601
WHAT A MAD LAD

>>19345601
WOAH, HE DID A NIGGERINO! HE IS BASED!

>>19345626
actually yes

I just did a search for the word nigger in my 55,000 word novella and it returned 11,986 results.

>>19345643
No way, this is beyond GENIUS!

>>19345643
this... this why I come to 4chan

>>19345643
holy fuck, what a masterpiece

>>19335239
currently reading the wandering inn
Been great reading for the past few months but damn I hate the wokeness in it. Just read four paragraphs where the author used they/them "pronouns" for a character they didn't want to reveal the gender of and only after reading the entire bit did I realize there was only one person it was referring to.

>>19345661
this is fucking awesome

>>19345668
Agreed, he is crazy, he said the word nigger not ones but 11,000 times!

>>19345673
this is why I come to 4chan

>>19345664
read cradle instead for epic space battles

>>19344015
Yes, I used the correct term. It was established that this was to be a xianxia tale within the first few chapters.

>>19345664
Reading any one thing soley for months is an utter disaster.

>>19345711
Cradle is xuanhuan if you want to be specific

what are some cyberpunk books

>>19345956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnBKX_vdYQI
This guy can tell you more about the genre than anyone here can

>>19337017
Because I find reading more valuable than other activities, even if I don't find all books to be equally valuable.
Fantasy, in my limited experience, is pure entertainment, and I don't want to dedicate too much of my time to entertainment. But I still crave it sometimes! So here I am.

It wasn't my intention to appear judgmental of how anyone chooses to use their time. I'm not another /lit/ larper; I just want my fantasy to be quick and fun instead of having to labor over thousands and thousands of pages.

>>19345974
So, arbitrary delusion?

>>19345956
Any book written by William Gibson.

>>19345956
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/486.Best_cyberpunk_books

>>19346144
>The Difference Engine
>Cyberpunk

>>19346156
Steampunk is a subset of cyberpunk.

Shower thought, kinda. Was the information request at the very beginning of Cradle Suriel or Ozriel?

>>19346185
Ozriel

>>19346189
It all makes sense now

>>19346198
No problem.

>>19345956
Cyberpunk is a dead genre. Nothing but the same stagnant bullshit over and over again.

>>19346231
Snabberbunk isn't dedad.

>>19346241
it pretty much is at this point.

>>19346254
I only like cyberpunk for the aesthetic. Otherwise it’s a boring genre that should have survived past the 90’s.

Do you guys know why cyberpunk gets so much more attention than steampunk, dieselpunk, etc? I feel like the other punks have potential and it’s being squandered.

>>19346422
Cyberpunk is/was a legitimate speculative scifi genre, steampunk and diesel punk are just another form of no/low magic (and often they just straight up have high magic) fantasy

>>19346428
Maybe in the beginning it was all speculative, but now? It all seem to be same bullshit.

>>>/v/576958762
>>>/v/576958762

>>19346497
Go back to /v/

It would be a lot better if I had less books to read now, just finished something and now gotta decide what to read again. Will probably be A Master of Djinn because I started some last night and it seemed interesting, that or more Cradle and if those don't work somehow I have more.

>>19335398
This just keeps getting better. The first chapter of Ghostwater was so much better than any of the previous books. I'm starting to understand all these Lindon memes.

>>19346515
There's so many books I'm reading that just aren't interesting so I book surf through several at a time. Then Cradle 10 comes along and I finish it in a few hours. Of course, it's notably shorter than some of the other books I'm making progress through. I think Will Wight knows what he's doing making his books the length they are, I understand he writes a LOT more that gets cut out to keep the pace flowing.

>>19346510
I think here are those who have read halo books

>>19346556
Most people consider Ghostwater the series' peak. Personally I think Wintersteel might be my favorite. Bloodline is a huge step down, although I understand what he was going for when he wrote it, it's just kinda terrible to read. Reaper is at least a return to form.

>>19346559
But why? /v/ reads more than /lit/.

>>19344860
I think it makes sense, since they're all part of one royal family. The only main character who isn't a product of incest is the protagonist's lover (who doesn't have a huge role but she does have his child). The only main characters who are incestuous and don't need to be are a brother-sister couple who are basically their own protagonists of the occasional aside chapter to further develop the scope of the story and world. They are also chaste for a number of reasons. When a half-brother of theirs attempts to woo the sister, she has him killed.

>>19344334
Paul should've fucked Harah and made Chani eat her creampie. Then maybe he wouldn't be such a tard about not knocking up Irulan

>>19346582
Dude, just go to therapy.

>>19346575
I dont understand your humor anymore and I think you're going to start being mean so bye

>>19346556
>10 books in 5 years
>YA
>wannabe weebshit
Yikes.

>>19346607
Hey, at least he wrote his story, the same can't be said about anyone here.

>>19346607
He's written and self-published 22 books in the past 8 years and made the NYT best sellers list to be very honest.

>>19346607
And why should any of that prevent you from enjoying something?

>>19346627
He's a pseud.

>>19346628
I know. Will Wight is just awful. Hope he one day accepts that he's male.

>>19346629
I respect him. He made it as a self-published author.

>>19346686
Many on /lit/ would die to be in spot.

>>19346686
>>19346715
Sorry, not reading your book.

>>19346722
do it for her

>>19346733
who?

>>19346733
Why should I read cradle?

>>19346780
Because you like yokel anime girls with 8 arms!

>>19346801
No, seriously, why?

>>19346807
Support self-publish authors.

What's a sci-fi book about a man who works on a mining ship which travels between systems doing mining stuff and when he gets his annual break he goes on earth and goes hiking and he likes building scale models of the ships he flies/sees using futuristic 3d printers and there's a war going on but it doesn't really affect him at all just that he sometimes has to deal with checkpoints and stuff cause they're worried about spies/terrorists (their enemies are other humans) but he also dreams of seeing the ships of his enemy and wishes that the war (23 years long at this point) would end so he could see the enemy fleet in dock at their space stations and get accurate plans to make the scale models?

>>19346829
Why should I support a YA weeb faggot?

>>19346839
Why should you support the woke publishing companies.

>>19346843
Would be better to support indie publishing houses.

>>19346856
Literally no different from being self-publish. Hell, it's even worst, since they actually get web novels publish.

>>19346843
I've bought multiple Mike Shel and Michael R. Fletcher books. I support self-published authors, but weebs get the rope.

>>19346879
Then why are you on an anime website? Go to Reddit.

>>19346862
Don’t seethe that those authors managed to get published. Shit like that is inspiring.

>>19346906
Not seething, but indie publishers shouldn't just "publish" web novels, they should instead publish novice authors.

>>19346908
>they should instead publish novice authors.
How is that any different than what they’re doing now? They are publishing novice authors. Just because they wrote web novels doesn’t change that.

>>19344363

>>19346916
Because there's bias in the selection. The indie publisher already knows the web novel has a following, so publishing it is just nothing more than greed.

>>19346922
Yeah, no shit, they’re a business. It would be idiotic to not do that, I mean, even big publishing house do it. Throne of glass was a web novel published in fiction press, and some agent found it and contacted Maas

>>19346927
>Throne of glass was a web novel published in fiction press, and some agent found it and contacted Maas
Bloomsbury Publishing made a fucking mint with that investment, I'm surprised others publishing houses haven't done the same.

>>19346939
>publishing houses haven't done the same.
Because they’re stagnant and falling to the wayside. Some web novels, if polish enough, are somewhat decent and could earn some sells.

>>19346901
The series you're fangirling for is reddit.

>>19346927
>Throne of glass
I heard that's getting a tv adaption. Lots of fantasy stories are recently getting adaptions. Don't know if its due to GOT or Dune.

>>19346952
>Don't know if its due to GOT or Dune.
Why would GoT have anything to do with it? If anything, GoT is an example on how to not adapt a fantasy series.

>>19346956
GoT was a cultural juggernaut when it was airing, so much, that parents even starting to name their daughters Khalessi, just because it faded away quickly doesn't change that.

>>19346962
>that parents even starting to name their daughters Khalessi,
Fuck you, no way that shit is real, no one is that retarded.

>>19346967
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/14/some-game-of-thrones-fans-named-their-daughters-khaleesi-or-daenerys-what-do-they-do-now/
>But since the HBO show’s debut in 2011, more than 3,500 girls in the United States have had either the name Khaleesi or Daenerys printed on their birth certificates, according to the Washington Post.

>Daenerys is the popular character’s proper name, but Khaleesi, the equivalent of Queen in the fictional Dothraki language, is by far the more popular choice. Khaleesi ranked 549th among the most popular girls’ names in 2018, outperforming such classic names as Priscilla, Anne and Rosie.

>>19346969
Jesus….I genuinely feel sorry for those girls. To be name after a fad.

>>19346974
Parents started to regret naming their daughters after Daenerys turned evil, so you know, that was worth it.

>>19346976
Forgot link: https://www.iheart.com/content/2019-05-14-parents-now-regret-naming-their-children-after-game-of-thrones-character/

>>19346980
Some people don’t deserve to be parents.

new thread
>>19346990

>>19346556
Is Will Wight just a slightly better Sanderson? His covers look like YA trash.

>>19347603
He's not really comparable to Sanderson at all.

>>19335225
Are there any science fiction works where the protagonist faction has access to antigrav, deflectors, FTL travel/comms but gravity through centrifugal force, active/point defences and STL interstellar travel/comms are still utilized to a *large* extent?