/lit/ - Literature

King.

Simple as.

>>19381414
Ok simp

New doco coming out about Kurt Vonnegut. Which is his best Sci fi novel or story?

>>19381844
slaughterhouse 5. but all of them are good

Joe many liberals does it take to change a log by bolb? None , their to busy ???? Their Gender!

all /sffg/fags must hang

>>19382101
flaccid penis slipknot, choke me daddy

>Aspect-Emperor Esmenet chapter
>It gets casually dropped that she sleeps with two different men from her entourage while hubby goes through unspeakable things to save the world.
You can be 300iq autist superhuman who outwitted literally everyone in the whole world, you can unify entire humanity and rally it to the cause, you can become rival to the Gods themselves, and it will still be beyond your capabilities to make a ho into a housewife kek.

>>19382189
Theres fiction and there’s fiction, my dude.

>>19381844
Vonnegut is midwit ironyfaggotry for teenagers who are supposedly mature for their age with the sarcastic, twisted sense of humor or however that meme goes.

>>19382365
Nah you’re just too stupid

>>19382394
>dude war is crazy dude whoa
t. Vonnegut

>>19382365
to be fair, a lot of Silver Age scifi authors are like that, the good ones like Frank Herbert or Arthur C Clarke are the exception rather than the rule

>>19382402
Do you play video games?

>>19381411
I think a fun way to approach this would be to have sufficient technology allow religious factions to realize their beliefs. Like an animist religion who worships trees turning themselves into plant people.

>>19382189
Esmenet is a tool for his TTT. Killhouse comes from Ishuäl, meaning he isn't bound by the concept of cuckolding because its beyond him, it does not concern him. The fact that Esmenet is banging other dudes probably is part of his plan. The thing is you are seeing the issue from the eyes of a world-born man. From Killhouse's POV there is no issue, its not because he is a cuck but because he is above and beyond these types of questions.

>>19381419
Rank them; which is worst, which is least worst
>The (adjective) X
>the X of Y
>the Y's X

>>19381419
The book write-ups posted to this thread will resume next week, probably. My current plan is to read the first book of arguably* the most popular and beloved /sffg/ fantasy series, which also has a dedicated cadre** of detractors.

I've been playing a game, which I finished yesterday. I greatly underestimated how much saudade*** I'd feel. It was an unique emotional experience. I hope eventually there will be more, but there are only so many powerful and meaningful experiences that one can effectively mine and refine from one's childhood. It wasn't so much the game as it was the recollections from that time in my life. I don't think there any relevant book series that has done similarly. I know one manga series that did something like it, but I wasn't happy with how that turned out.

*very much argumentation indeed, yet given the information available to me, it seems to be true.
**a few obstinate posters forcibly teaching their preferred memes
***or desiderium, but I like the former better.

>>19383090
Hey /sffg/! Can you spell COPE?

>>19383223
Please do point out the error in my reasoning, or did you even read all of the seven books?

Bakker is unironically the best living fantasy author, how the fuck can anyone disagree?
Warrior-Prophet is a modern masterpiece

>>19383130
what series? what game? also cool words my nigga i like the vocab

>>19383090
He still became actually attached to her in the end. Which, and becoming more humane in general, might be one of reasons he lost to Dunyain who still had their shit together. The thot ruined two good men already, how can she be stopped?

>>19383398
he didnt lose against the other dunyain, he lost to Kelmomas

>>19381419
Cradle - Noun:
A bed or cot for a baby usually on rockers or pivots

Your favorite series' title literal definition is an artificial infantile comfort giving construct.

>>19383502
Cradle is the universe where the Abidan Court originated in, and where they get some substantial amount of their new underlings.

>>19383548
Iteration doesn't necessarily mean universe.

>>19383358
SA, FF7R

Would /sffg/ be interested in a Skyrim-inspired epic fantasy?

>>19381419
Cook did her dirty.

>>19383771
What would you say that Skyrim is inspired by?

>>19383762
Iterations seem to be wholly separate nodes in the Way, and they are described as being multiple galaxies large.

>>19384158
The Way you say?

>>19384174
I kneel

>>19384158
Yes, but, Wight himself said he got too carried away with his descriptions. Especially anything to do with numbers, see the "trillions" part. You seem to assume everything is 100% literally true and don't accept that the author is playing around loose and fast with everything.

You faggots keep talking about Cradle. Just................fuck. I relent. I'll read it. Just link it to me and let me experience it so then I can at least participate in this thread fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck where are all the people who read books in a non meme way anymore

>>19384600
>not wanting memes
>being on 4chan
Do you even know where you are?

>>19384158
>That pic

that's it. i'm leaving. goodbye. enjoy your shitty threads forever

>>19384321
A universe with thousands of inhabited worlds would have populations in the trillions. That might actually be too low.

>>19384600
https://libgen.is/fiction/?q=unsouled&criteria=&language=&format=

>read star carrier america and the earlier SPESS MARINE series
>constant references to polygamory, same sex marriage, and the like
>every book there's at least one or two actual scenes where characters romance or try to
>one(1) time out of eighteen books is this something other than a man and a woman together
these are funny fucking books
I liked when every time a european was on stage their character was "basically hitler"

>>19384717
The problem is that Wight isn't consistent and conflates a lot of stuff. A lot of it isn't meant to be taken seriously and is just for fun. Cradle is the name of the main planet in Iteration 110, which is in Sector Eleven. A sector is up to 10 iterations.

I have all the books in digital form and can easily search them.

Soulsmith
>most Iterations only had a single inhabited planet.

As a note, all his books place in iterations, so it's similar to the Cosmere.

>>19384875
On a related note, the planets in iterations can affect the planets in other iterations, which doesn't make much sense to me. How do planets of separate iterations even merge? It's a mystery.

Finally got Ken Liu's The Veiled Throne. I've been waiting for a few years and I finally got it, hope he wraps the Dandelion Dynasty up nice. I have hope because it's a decent sized novel, 2,000+ pages. After I finally read this I can get back into the groove of things, the book kept getting delayed and I was getting annoyed and didn't feel like reading much else so after I read this finally I can work on the 50+ books I have waiting for me to finally read. Going to start now I'll property post here to let anyone who wants to know what I thought of it

>>19382189
Kellhus isn't really a human though, and she's become aware of that. She wants to be with normal world-born men who can offer actual love/passion to her, rather than the feigned affection of a sociopathic hyper-autist

>>19384908
>Finally got Ken Liu's The Veiled Throne.
Oh, it did actually release. I thought it was pushed back again to December.

>hope he wraps the Dandelion Dynasty up nice.
Uh, no. The next, 4th book, is called Speaking Bones.

>2,000+ pages
Sure, for all 3 books of Dandelion Dynasty together, not just this one book.

>>19384930
https://kenliu.substack.com/p/the-veiled-throne-is-almost-here

>Because of supply chain issues, my book will be getting a split release in the UK and the US, instead of a worldwide simultaneous English release
These things happen I guess. US version is indeed delayed to December.

>>19384875
and then I realized I can just easily merge all the digital books together with a few clicks in Calibre to make for easy searching

>>19384717
Okay, here's one of the things that bothered me.
> “It’s an overwhelming sight,” Ozriel said softly. “This is the central planet of the world we call Cradle. Iteration 110. It is larger than average for an inhabited planet, with vital aura making it both harder and easier for humanity to spread. At the moment of this recording, over six hundred billion souls call this place home.”

600 hundred billion souls? What does that even mean? The population for planets are much more reasonable later on. There's even talk of 10s of trillions of people (?) early in the series.

>>19383130
>>19384963
>>19384930
Well, huh, whatever shall I do about this.

Marvel Iterations of Earth, as in the Cradle series
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Multiverse/Universe_Listing

you'll talking iterations

Anyone ever read those old Forgotten Realms books? I think they're pretty comfy for mindless fantasy.
>>19385407
heh, my brother just kept my sisters from throwing out Eon. I should get around to it at some point.

>>19385620
she cute

>>19385620
Yes, I read well over 100 in my childhood and continue collecting them for years afterwards, so I have most of them.

I was really into the Robotech books. I also read the Sailor Moon novelization.

>>19385770
>Robotech
An abomination of the worst sort cobbled from the mutilated corpses of other series.

>>19385779
All I remember is lots of writing like "the ship zoomed zipped and whirled around the
pararosaniline sky"

>>19386028
I meant the franchise in general, not the Robotech novelization specifically. The novelizations are to be cursed twice over though.

>>19381844
The Sirens Of Titan. All of his pre-80s works are great. Maybe the ones after that are good too, I'm not sure because I have not read them yet
>>19382365
Hating Vonnegut is peak midwit IQ behavior

>>19385770
Which Mech did Sailormoon pilot?

>>19386143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68rfPKOTKOo
What if Sailor Moon was a mech?

>>19386120
Your disapproval warms the cockles of my heart.

How much does it cost in dollar equivalent? Why is Sakarpus a norf shithole and not gigarich despite having a hoard of it?

>>19383772
I don't think so. She was a mental case and it would've been a bad idea to let her run around. You could argue she got to one-up her sister by denying her Croaker.

>>19385620
>Anyone ever read those old Forgotten Realms books? I think they're pretty comfy for mindless fantasy.
It's always weird to me when you can visibly see it's someone fluffing up game mechanics. Especially when spell names comes into play. The Cleric Quintet is decent.

>>19386548
She was calculating before, Cook just made her go crazier and then turn Lady into his self insert's perfect wifu.

>>19383772
How good are the Black Company books past one I just finished the first book.

Thoughts on the Shadows of the Apt Series?

>>19386627
I liked them less.

any comfy-sci that center around the male aesthetic and men sticking together to become supremely sexy to women, because men sticking together creates something similar to the cheerleader effect. it is a dangerous discovery that if men constantly stick by each other they become extremely attractive. and the theme is the sexual disruption parallel to normal sexual relationships within society, a hidden realm where men are with each other for the profiteering of eggloads.

>>19386569
>then turn Lady into his self insert's perfect wifu.
I mean, she always was one for Croaker.

>>19386862
I have not felt any sensible chemistry in book 1, if anything Soulcatcher had more of it.

>>19386868
Because it's very one sided in the first book. Croaker is fascinated by the Lady and she wants an unbiased annalist to documented her conquest. It evolves over time.

What the FUCK are we going to call phones in the future? Are there any recent novels that address this, what do they call them?

To most people, the phone part of a phone is of less importance than mobile computers. When are we going to start calling them something else to fit the changing role they have?

Everybody talks about Internet of Things and Smartwatches and AR Glasses, but none of these replace the immediate accessibility and easy use of a smartphone, so I don't think they'll go anywhere. I don't think we'll just call them tablets or something either.

So what?
WHAT?
This has been driving me mad for months.

>>19386889
they will be called prosthetic brains augmentations. rolls off the tongue.

>>19386874
>wants unbiased annalist
>picks her own waifufag/simp

>>19386899
Yes welcome to woman 101

>>19381432
BaSeD

Golgotterath stands!

>>19386889
In Star Wars they call the things used for communication comlinks. Tablets are called datapads.

I remember years ago I watched some anime where the protagonist had a sword named Terminus Est (it could also turn into a loli but that's irrelevant to this story). I remember typing it into google at the time and seeing it was also the name of a sword from some fantasy novel but I didn't commit the title to memory at the time. Some years later I came here looking for recommendations and unsurprisingly I ended up reading BotNS. So you can imagine my surprise when I discovered by complete coincidence, I had stumbled upon the same book from all those years ago that I heard about but never looked into. I always remembered that name Terminus Est because even though the anime wasn't very good I thought the sword name was extremely cool, so I remembered it instantly. And thankfully, the book turned out to be one of the greatest fantasy novels I've ever read. It's just funny how fate works out sometimes. So thank you, random Japanese guy, for having good taste in books, so that I could have this story to tell.

sci-fi would still be sci-fi without the science lmao because its distinctive quality is shit writing haha

>>19387033
All you need is an idea and no character development.

>>19386471
priceless

>>19385135
Cradle is physically enormous as planets go. Souls refers to sentient beings, but also remnants and spirits. There's billions of low grade remnants floating around, trapped in constructs, caves, trees, etc. There's repeated mention of a type of tree that leaves a Remnant for each individual leaf (which is the type of tree Emeriss Silentborn originally was).
But also I'm pretty sure that number was hyperbole. In fact, I think later editions of the book actually changed that line to something more reasonable, if still very large.

>>19386889
iPhone.

>>19386471
Pretty sure it's not considered a commodity except some exceptional cases where large scale diplomacy or transfer of power involved. It's really priceless. Sakarpus sticks to their stuff because of their cultural disdain for sorcery that they have for some reason despite constantly getting pressured by sranc.

>>19387094
I'm reading Judging Eye and not a while ago one of the characters remarked something along the lines of "if you had a dozen chorae you wouldn't need to be a scalper faggot". They're definitely a valueable trade good, why wouldn't they be?

>>19387195
Why doesn't the bank of England sell its gold?

>>19387195
Well if you're just a nobody you likely better off selling all but one to someone who will make use of them which will inded yield you lots of money, however if they find out that you have trinkets on you and can't defend yourself they might just off you to grab them. Nobodies generally don't have any trinkets though considering how much every power wants them.

I finished Dune Messiah yesterday and it was pretty good. Do I keep going? How is it after Paul's arc?

>>19381419
Is there any youtube channel that discuss /SFFG/ books ?

>>19387277
I haven't read beyond Messiah, but Messiah is essentially the last "book" of Dune itself, it's not a true sequel. I would guess if the author is Frank Herbert it's at least readable, as the series is his baby.

>>19387447
Yes.

>>19387447
https://www.youtube.com/c/GregoryBSadler/videos
maybe this might have be interesting, but I can't say how interesting his videos are generally speaking
maybe also this
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB_pokQ27mY3DGlGrSdNKKw/videos

>>19386775
He's an amazing writer, havent read that series tho. Makes you wonder where he finds the time to write that many books in such a short period of time.

>>19387060
Yeah, the distances mentioned are huge. At one point Suriel travels 5x the circumference of Earth and it's not mentioned how far that is relative to The size of Cradle. My first thought would be how much more gravity that would be, but it's a fantasy novel and logic need not apply.

After all, there are chains described where each spoke is large as a star. It's not meant to make any sense, but to just be fun. Though that's probably also why it's ending in the book after the next.

>>19387447
The best one :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChWX1yxVym2kNXMBD1oKo8Q

I bet he lurks here too.

>>19387473
Why do women do this shit with their eyelashes? Looks fucking disgusting.

>>19387525
Shes a mutt, with that nose shes at least 20% subsaharan African.

>>19385624
She was painted by the venerable Clyde Caldwell. Actually only read the book, Azure Bonds, because of that cover.
>>19385720
That's pretty impressive anon, I've only read the Finder's Stone Trilogy and am currently on Soldiers of Ice. Which is your favorite?
>>19386551
It's a little odd but I've sort of taken it as part of the territory with these books.
>Cleric Quintet is decent
Thanks, I'll keep it on my radar.

>>19387557
It's not really impressive relative to how many there are. I think there's around 300 books. I haven't updated keeping track in a long time. I think almost anyone not deeply involved doesn't realize how they relate to each and misunderstand everything about it in general. I may say more later.

give me your immortal-core book list
reading the first 15 lives of harry august right now and it's great

Started Book of the Long Sun a few weeks ago. It's finally starting to grow on me-at first I as like "idk wtf is going on" but I'm at chapter 5 and the story is starting to get enjoyable. It's different from New Sun but I'm glad I didn't give up on it-trying to read it right after coming off of BotNS might be a shock to people esp if they're expecting more of the same

thoughts on Long Sun? It kinda sucks it's not nearly as popular(I'd like some more artwork or discussions) but it's rare that series are as discussed as New Sun is when it comes to sci fi

>>19387635
That's timeloop, not immortal.

>>19387473
She has a very impressive collection of trade paperback books. I respect that.

About to begin The Judging Eye, what am I in for?

>>19387740
Why should you respect that people own a lot of stuff?

>>19387740
Apart from Children of Time and The Hobbit, its all trash

>>19387755
Yes.

>>19387748
Man I got 50 pages to go you just couldn't wait for my blogposting huh
You should prepare yourself for absolutely nothing happening, like holy shit the whole novel felt like a preface to the trilogy to come. So many plot threads started, none of them developed in any way - Kellhus' kids, Great Ordeal, White-Luck Warrior, Mimara, Sorweel and his buck slave. The trek through notMoria was pretty based.

>>19387473
>jemisin

opinion disregarded

>>19387473
Didn't she have an Instagram? Since her Bakker video meltdown, I haven't seen a lot of her videos posted here.

>>19383502
>>19383548
>>19383762
>>19384158
>>19384321
>>19384717
>>19384875
>>19385135
>>19384887
>>19385100
Rock-a-bye baby, in the tree top
When the wind blows, the cradle will rock
When the bough breaks, the cradle will fall
And down will come baby, cradle and all.

>>19387898
For what purpose did you post this other than your own amusement?

>>19381844
Slaughterhouse 5.
But read player piano

>>19384930
I couldn't wait so I bootlegged that shit, I still bought a copy though. Its pretty good so far and I had pretty high expectations. It focuses on the Lycea at first so you get to know more about them. There are implications a certain character that was thought dead might be alive, and thats just in the intro going through who all the characters are like the first two books. Hope the fourth book comes out faster than this one did but I'm just glad I get to finally read it.

>600 page book has a 90 page prologue full of characters you don't care about and plot hooks that won't be relevant until 3 books later in the series
what did Jordan mean by this

>>19381844
My favorite is Sirens of Titan, Mother Night and Player Piano are a close 2nd.

>>19388000
Fourth book is currently scheduled for June.
I only recently read the second book. I should've read it earlier because I don't quite feel up to reading the third yet.

What book would you recommen that has pacing that woks as audio book? For examble Brandon Sanderson's works work as audio book, while Ian Bank's didn't (but they were nice when I read physical copy).

>>19388001
This posts says "you". That's surely a typo for "I".

>>19388032
There are also audible originals now. I assume since they are soley audiobooks they would have pacing that works.

>>19388046
>There are also audible originals now
from Ian Banks? Or did you mean generaly? Care to recommend something entertaining?

I want weird post apocalypse books, any suggestions? The weirder the better

>>19388060
I meant generally. No, I havent enjoyed myself anytime I've listened to an audiobook. Mostly I've done those are originally audio. There are of course others that are original that aren't audible as well. No, I don't have any recs.

>>19388085
Oops, didn't mean to use a tripcode there.

>>19388024
That's not too bad of a wait, specially for these books that span quite a bit of time. It'll definitely be interesting to see how everything plays out. This one is a bit harder to put down than the last two, so before picking it up I'd make sure you have a bit of extra time on you're hands.

Has someone made a v2 of this yet?

>>19388172
yeah here it is:
sanderfag reading order
step 1: don't

>>19388171
Time isn't an issue for me in the slightest at this time, though I appreciate the warning.

>>19388172
There doesn't really need to be changes other than filling in book titles names.

>>19383771
THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK GUYS!

>>19388199
We're not your personal feedback.

>>19388186
You're welcome

>>19388199
How would it be "skyrin-inspired" explain it to me like I'm 5.

>>19388229
Lots of snow and Vikings and dragons

>>19388265
How much of the old Norse sagas have you read?

>>19388199
We don't care fuck off.

>>19388182
I tried to read way of kings and it is bad, the world is just a bunch of random things that makes no sense, its bad, i dont understand the sanderson hype

What's so bad about Brandon Sanderson really?

>>19388317
His books

>>19388317
He's a popular author

>>19388317
He's a popular author

>>19388317
globohomo stuff in his books only woman are the intellectuals men are not allowed to read

the world is ridiculous it is full of random things random rules for the world

there is a character in way of kings that is a bridge runner, a guy that carries a bridge wtf?

>>19388317
He's a popular author

>>19388317
By the way I'm asking honestly, I've never read his works, and I'm not really familiar with him at all outside of knowing that he ghost-wrote the last few novels of WoT based on Jordan's notes but I haven't read any of the WoT novels.

>>19388327
>>19388338
>>19388331
gonna need something more than that to go off of

>>19388341
I'd be more willing to take this post seriously if it weren't written by an ESL

>>19388360
What >>19388338 said

>>19388360
>gonna need something more than that to go off of
He's a popular author. That's all /sffg/ needs to dismiss a work

>>19388360
what is esl nigger?

>>19388280
Pic related. I do need to read more.

>>19388417
Yes, read the original sagas, not just modern retellings. The Saga of the Volsungs is a decent place to start.

Is the Unhewn Throne series any good?

>>19388567
Read it and find out, anon.

(((pussy)))
(((vagina)))
(((clit)))

>>19388172
One version of shit books is enough.

>>19388317
Oh no

>>19388317
Oh no

My idea for a fantasy world setting is alternative earth with super powers that suffered a nuclear war and then a pandemic, what do you think?

>>19388317
Oh no no no no no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXLicO0CRvk

>>19388375
If you're asking that question that makes you the literal nigger. English as a Second Language, nigger.

>>19388375
I accept your defeat, shitter.

>>19388567
Two good books with a terrible third act.

Fuck Adare

>>19388317
He's a popular author

>He's a popular author

>>19388658
Look I leaned something from a braindead nigger

>>19388172
You can start with reading The Final Empire and stop at reading The Hero of Ages

>>19388659
whats the problem with ESL's?

>>19387969
i think it's pretty based that a single author has managed to infantalize a whole generation of readers with one series of books.

On a completely unrelated note:
>its a fantasy setting with magic and monsters
>the main character is a rogue

>>19388686
Nah, I don't think I will after seeing how much this thread dislikes the author.

>>19388682
Says the retard who didn't even know what ESL meant, you're dumber than a literal street shitter.

>>19388702
Yeah. Don't. You will have to read every book across multiple separate series to get the whole picture of his MCUesc universe. It's a waste of time.

>>19388567
I enjoyed them a lot and wrote about how I did.

>>19388697
Perdona, no hablo Mexico.

>>19388713
hablas with my dick faggot

>>19388317
he's really really bland

>>19388722
I accept your surrender.

>>19388317
He simply cannot compete with the Likes of Bakker, Tolkien, Wolfe, Herbert etc...

>>19388727
LOL this nigga is completely crazy talking about surrender and shiet, kys

>>19388317
As others have said, it’s due to him being popular.

>>19388733
Didn't ask.

>>19388567
Fuck Adare

>>19388317
>struggles to contain awesomeness

Books with good female protagonists?

it took me like 4 cradle books to realize the "cursed valley" jai long's sister talked about was the one lindon was from lol

>thread is full of cradlecuck's and sandersoy's
Is this the lowest point of /sffg/'s timeline?

>>19389290
Why do you care what people read?

>>19388417
The eddas are easy to read bro. Ideally ones with scholarly introductions

>>19389290
>'s
We unironically accept your defeat.

Where is /sffg/ with their novel? I recently finished my outline and I'm 14 pages in, currently perfecting the introduction and first third of chapter one. I'm gonna self publish and it will be less shit than Cradle.

>>19389348
We don't care.

>>19387522
>sci-fi book hunters: cambridge
STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY CITY

>>19388649
How are you going to have a pandemic after 60% of the global population died and trade / travel have reverted to 18th century levels? Is it like Fallout style radiation magick where people turn into crust elves and troon ogres? Who the fuck even wants to spend more time reading about a fake pandemic now?

>>19389596
Not that anon
Station Eleven HBO series which is about a pandemic will be airing. I liked the book .

>>19389660
>Station Eleven
That's Theater fiction

I've been posting too much I think. I'll start using a tripcode next thread.

>>19389675
Fuck off.

>>19389685
Thanks for the motivation to do so.

>>19389675
What is it with you schizos and the need to stand out?

>>19389723
You're welcome.

>>19389723
Let him, it'll be easier to filter.

>>19389673
Wrong

>>19389745
>Implying anyone filters
That'll just go to show how much I matter.

>>19389750
>Wrong
About what?

>>19389759
It isn't "theater fiction"

>>19389775
>It isn't "theater fiction"
>Genre is literally theater fiction
Anon, not him but just take the fucking L.

>>19389783
Never.

>>19388649
Okay, but what's the story about? I don't give two shits about worldbuilding.

>>19389804
You're in the minority then are thus irrelevant.

>>19389817
no seriously, what's the story.

Fuck off with this shit, fucking hack cunt writers.

>>19389660
Corpo social conditioning doesn't actually care what anyone wants to watch either.

>>19389997
Nice conspiracy

The Seventh Quyan Theorem. The Ellipses of Thosolankis …

>>19390040
It made you uncomfortable enough to comment at least.

>>19387521
It’s normal in xianxia to have continents that are 100k miles across and it’s just a small spec of land in the boundless sea
And this is all just one realm among many realms, and then you have the infinitely large upper realm plus the countless mortal realms

>>19390230
>It’s normal in xianxia to have continents that are 100k miles across and it’s just a small spec of land in the boundless sea
Sounds like shit world building?

>>19390341
Just a genre trope

>>19390341
Yeah, Chinks literally cannot write.

>>19390341
>The demon army is about to invade
>Cultivates in a cave for 1 million years
>Dabs on the demon army just as they arrive
psh nothin personnel

>>19390226
Thanks for the (you), friend

>>19390353
doesn't sound like it

Anyone ever notice how the "classics" are bad at being series? People routinely read thousands of pages worth of malazan or wheel of time or belgariad no problem. Me included. But reading past book one in the Space Odyssey series or Ender series or Dune series or Hyperion series or Forever War series or Rendezvous with Rama series is considered excruciating for most. And generally for good reason. Wolfe and Bakker are exceptions I guess but they're famous for their series to begin with, instead of individual books. What's going on here? Is it some kind of curse the really good authors suffer? Or is it just that series which maintain a consistent quality throughout are more easily and fondly remembered as such than series where book 1 completely overshadows the rest? Or is the problem that those "classics" just tell self-contained stories in the first book, making them easy to drop?

How many major plotlines are there in ASOIF? Any series which have more?

>>19390620
I think Messiah and Fall should both get more praise.

>>19390626
Half a dozen, and that ain't including the subplots/

Does anybody happen to remember the title of the book where they are in some dystopia and the kid can't plug in to the VR because of his epilepsy? Ends up being able to learn because his brain isn't rotted out.
It was science fiction.

>>19390695
no

>>19390620
Your chronology is all over the place, but in earlier times, say before the late 80s, it was more expensive to publish and SF was a smaller niche. Authors had more incentive to blow their proverbial load in one volume and dredge up whatever they had left for sequels if the first book was successful.

Some people are just one hit wonders. Like Simmons and Haldeman.

>>19390798
Ok.

>>19390804
Wasn't trying to establish a chronology, interesting that you observed one. You have a good explanation though.

>>19390815
I mean, you got to give us more than that, anon.

>>19390905
Good news everyone! I found it by googling my own post.
The title is The Last Book In The Universe

A 2000 post-apocalyptic science fiction novel by Rodman Philbrick. Set in a cyberpunk dystopia, its protagonist and narrator is a teenage boy named Spaz who suffers from epilepsy.

>>19390916
>>19390695
sounds like a very boomer premise

>>19390920
I'll finish reading it and will get back to you on how boomer it is.

>>19390920
t. spaz

Any good books that use science to explain the magical elements

>>19390963
Nope.

>>19390963
pern or some shit maybe

>>19390963
Sanderson.

>>19390916
>The Last Book In The Universe
I remember this during a Scholastic book fair.

I would like to thank the anon that recommended 'Pushing Ice' by Alistair Reynold's in the other thread. I have read some of his other stuff but for some reason skipped his earlier works.
>2005 was 16 years ago

>>19391062
I graduated high school in 2005.

>>19391085
Why are you wasting away your life here?

>>19391091
>>19391085
you never leave 4chan

>>19391091
Because I'm here forever. From before I graduated until now.

>>19391091
If you came here in your formative years it's impossible to leave.
t. been here over half my life

>>19384634
>gif

>>19391062
>Alistair Reynold's
Why does he never get talked around here?

>>19391199
Because people here only read a few select series and make excuses as to why they don’t read others.

>>19390620
>Dune series
Dune series has a good excuse in that it shouldn't have been published at all, and only did so under unusual circumstances.

>>19391101
>>19391103
>>19391109
Do you guys have no self-control?

>>19390620
Because the classics are overrated.

>>19390378
>>19390386
God, the more I learn about xianxia, the more it seems like a gumble mess. How did it get so famous and why are people in the west trying to make their own?

>>19391230
>west trying to make their own?
Western Xianxia has their own spin in it and some writers/authors use Greek and Roman instead.

>>19390916
>A 2000 post-apocalyptic science fiction novel by Rodman Philbrick. Set in a cyberpunk dystopia, its protagonist and narrator is a teenage boy named Spaz who suffers from epilepsy.
With the increase technological prowess of Virtual Reality, why haven't cyberpunk focus on it in their stories? Outside of Ready Player One, no cyberpunk series has discussed VR and the escapism it allows.

>>19391246
For the same reason why so many authors rehash Tolkien. It’s easier to copy and paste than try to make something original.

How long does the northern plains arc go on for in reverend insanity? It's been going for 100 chapters already and I don't care for any of the characters or for the mc sending armies of wolves at other armies of wolves, holy fuck

>>19391256
Until chapter 650ish

>>19391263
Thanks anon, I'm at 520 now so I guess I'll keep slogging through

>>19391268
Northern Plains arc is one of the best arcs in my opinion.

>>19391256
>reverend insanity
The author is still working with that? I thought it was ban by the Chinese government?

Not really a sci-fi fan but I read Hyperion to change things up after hearing about it for so long. I enjoyed the general premise (Hegemony, Shrike mystery Ouster conflict, AIs) but some of the individual stories were just awful, Soldiers, Poet and the Consuls tale at the end until the last few pages was an underwhelming denouement. I've heard the sequels aren't as good as the first? Without spoilers can someone tell me why?

Also I will give Simmons credit for his conception of the net, quite visionary for 89.

>>19391285
>Without spoilers can someone tell me why?
Read it and find out.

>>19391256
So, is the story good or is it all one big meme?

>>19391369
It's alright, not too good, but not too bad.

>Story has sex in it.
I have nothing against sex in my stories, but it just feels like a cheap cop-out to have the story seem mature.

>>19391230
Because modern fantasy does not address male desires

>>19391410
Also helps that the authors is writing for his audience and not for some critics.

>>19391405
And ai also want to add that I absolutely hate the euphemism they use during the sex scenes. Like fucking hell, call the woman’s vagina pussy, cunt or something that’s well known. Not “sex”. The fuck is that bullshit.

>>19391429
>The fuck is that bullshit.
Myrish swamp and fat pink mast. Now that I think about it, Martin adds alot of his fetishes in his story. Especially how breast milk in ASOIAF series being drunk by non-babies.

>>19391442
Didn’t he also have gilly release some breast milk?

>"The more she drank, the more she shat."
At some point, an editor has to step in and take control. Yet, for whatever reason, none ever did.

>>19391410
Not going to lie, but the second good thing about self-publishing is that the authors have to keep that woke shit out of it. I still remember some idiot author introducing some gay character and got completely shat on by his readers.

>>19391468
The more successful an author gets, the harder it is for their editor to reel them in.

>>19391486
Yet, look where Martin is now. Guy lost control. And all of this could have been avoided if an editor took control.

>>19391486
My problem with Martin is that he keeps on introducing new P.O.Vs. Some of them are just unnecessary. Like that donnish p.o.v in dance with dragons.

>>19391499
Ye Sanderson could have used one too, especially on his last few. Success is just hard to argue against

>Redditor
How do you prevent yourself from becoming a victim of your own success?
>Brandon Sanderson
I haven't figured that out yet. I've watched it happen to other authors, so if I figure it out, I'll tell you. It is something I worry about. Particularly with how the new J.K. Rowling screenplays feel like they're just missing the mark.
>Redditor
I feel like she needed someone to tell her when her bad ideas are bad.
>Brandon Sanderson
Yeah. Exactly. But, we'll see. Well hopefully Peter and Isaac and Kara and Karen will tell me when my bad ideas are bad.

How is this going for him?

>>19391532
The fuck are you on about.

Imagine having a smaller, greyscale version of your nerd teen self permanently engraved on someone else's body
Is this how it feels to make it?

>>19391524
>Success is just hard to argue against
Until the series takes a noise dive. Martin is never going to finish the rest of the books. The only people who care now are hardcore fans and people who put wild theories at play.

>>19387674
i wish i could talk to you about it but i got so burnt out after Urth i needed a wolfe break

>>19391557
The fuck are you on about.

>>19391548
>>19391590
The fuck are you on about.

>>19391610
No, seriously, what's with your schizo rambling?

>>19387674
Long Sun is my favourite of the three. It's the most digestible and Silk is such a lovely character

Any webnovels worth reading?

>>19381419
I've started writing my first novel draft on a series of 8 planned books. Assuming I actually manage to publish all of them little by little and they end up very subpar at best, will I still gain some notoriety just for pumping out that much shit? Should I condense some parts into one to spare the reader the inconvenience?

>>19391671
>>19383012

>>19391664
reverend insanity

>>19391673
Oh right, thanks. My bad

>>19391664
Virtuous Sons and Mother of Learning

>>19391690
>Virtuous Sons
I've heard this name toss around here, isn't that the one with the greeks? Or romans?

>>19391717
yes

>>19391740
Anything I should know before I start reading?

>>19391757
It’s extremely homoerotic, but the characters are straight.

>>19391757
Just one thing. I hope you are having a nice day anon.

>>19391784
Thanks.

>>19391675
Will it ever be complete?

>>19391801
No, the Chinese government literally ban it.

>>19391801
Government went after the author for this one chapter where he parodied Mao's red guard by setting up a group of youths who'd monitor and publicly shame dissenters, so he had to stop updating it

>>19391807
>>19391813
Christ, I hate censorship

>>19391813
I thought all chinese people like Mao?

>>19391813
Is the author writing another series, or has he "disappear"?

>>19391819
Not if you're a farmer

>>19391825
What a madlad

New thread
>>19391831

>>19391268
The first part of that arc is really boring imo but the later part makes up for it. Very common place for people to drop the novel from what ive heard though which is a shame since it very much picks up afterwards.

>>19391215
I have left twice but I keep coming back.

>>19391246
No, they have. You're just oblivious of your ignorance.

>>19391285
I would suggest reading Fall of Hyperion. Probably not the the other two though.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/62
Was fun read