/lit/ - Literature

>>/adv/
We like to discuss relative meaningful literature here.

>>1947974

How is this not meaningful?

>>1947976
It wasn't written by Rand.

all they want is your money and cock

there i saved you some time

>>1947974
Fuck off, let him have his thread. I see stuff on the front page such as some guy whining about his Hemingway paperbacks costing too much, and a discussion about some generic fantasy series. Something being meaningful is relative to the individual.

>>1947984
You forgot sycophantic adoration.

The difference between one woman and another is most often greater than the difference between the general trends of each gender.

Your logic is flawed and crude.

>>1947984

Nah I'm gonna need stuff a lot deeper than that

I'm talking proven thought processes, social conditioning and the impact on dating, and so on

>>1947987
>uses weasel phrases like "most often"
>criticizes another for "flawed logic"

>>1947987

Actually, most white women think pretty similarly, in my experience

Let's not forget mob mentality as well

>>1947988
>women
>thought process

>generalizing an entire half of the human population as something that books and psychology can teach you the inner robotics of and with enough time asking the geniuses of social interaction that are 4chan you too can be a puppeteer of those around you and know how to get a woman to have an orgasm from across a room just by looking at her the right way
>No really guys it's meaningful. Isn't this like psychology or something? I heard you could like, take that in college, right, so why can't it help me figure out what to wear so women don't look at me funny?

Sage for /adv/ summerfaggotry. How people like you manage to fucking function in society is beyond me- Oh, wait, you don't, you're fucking autistic, that's right.

>>1947997

Well someone is clearly mad

>female
>mind

Pick one.

the book of Pook (google it)


now get out

>>1947993
dfw has the best reaction images

>>1948001
Not even going to lie, I mad.
I have three or four girlfriendless friends who are constantly walking around with this ridiculous mindset that women are some mystical and unknowable thing that only the select initiated erudite few can enjoy the attention of because they are "douchebags".

You know those feminists who think all men are violent shitheads and without them there'd be no war or crime? The ones who for their own reasons see only the lowest common denominator of a gender? This strange, primitive "women are naturally basically just like dogs or small children" group of typically 4chan dwelling young men is the male version of that. It's like the only women they've ever met are their mothers and a few tween girls who only care about celebrities and gossip.

I hate to draw out anecdotes here but I realized that mentality was bullshit the first time I had a steady long-term girlfriend. I get the feeling the people who buy into OP's logic are 23 year old virgins who spent too long on /r9k/ and decided to try "social engineering" without ever stopping to examine their views or themselves.

On Women
by Arthur Schopenhauer

One need only look at a woman’s shape to discover that she is not intended for either too much mental or too much physical work. She pays the debt of life not by what she does but by what she suffers—by the pains of child-bearing, care for the child, and by subjection to man, to whom she should be a patient and cheerful companion. The greatest sorrows and joys or great exhibition of strength are not assigned to her; her life should flow more quietly, more gently, and less obtrusively than man’s, without her being essentially happier or unhappier.

Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.

>>1948088
Schopes was just mad he couldn't keep his own woman. He was a little bitch.

>>1948095

>and is what he is says somehow incorrect/flawed??

My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday

>>1948195
the burden of proof is upon him, and he has not demonstrated why common knowledge or policy should change to reflect his views

>>1948302
femanon replying on lit!!!

'Burden of proof' -- please fuck off. He's stating things that are self-evident in that essay.

I don't think women are in any way inferior, but by the natural order of things they do tend to childrearing and housekeeping. That's all Schop is saying.

Much of contemporary female writing/thought is in reaction to/against these structures; just like with male writing/thought there is a huge backlash against standard familial, wife-and-children supporting roles.

>>1948088
everything schopenhauer said in that essay is true.

butthurt feminists cant come up with anything other than shaming words such as 'mysoginist' or 'he just made cos he dont get laid!'

Pure ad hominems if there ever were any.

>>1948321
while I can understand the argument, stuff like
>the natural order of things
is just silly

>>1948324
>everything schopenhauer said in that essay is true.

Why is that?

feminism is riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

did you hear the doppler shift on that, it's because i'm driving away

later

>>1948328
its self-evident

LF CHICK TA LOSE MY VIRGINITY TO PL0XXXX@!!!!!!!!!!!1

SPOILER: girls are faggots.

>>1948331
no, see, I'm dumb. Can you cite an example in real life?

Because right now, you're basically using the same logic that theists use for the existence of God.

>>1948334
SPOILER: choke on my massive dick

>>1948336
SPOLER: as soon as your daddy gets off of it.
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>>1948342
that doesn't even make sense anatomically

unless you're implying that i'm buttfucking my dad, which is frankly just kind of raunchy and inappropriate

>>1948335
an example of what?

of how schopenhauer is right?

the essay on women is a good, real life example of how he is right.

now get back in the kitchen.

>>1948347
FUCK THAT, right now she's got laundry duty.

>>1948347
come on dude, bring your arguments up. the essay in which he advances his argument cannot possibly be an example of how his argument is right.

Being a shithead misogynist on 4chan in 3 easy steps:

1) String together incoherent statements and references into an angry rant

2) Make a joke about getting back in the kitchen / making a sandwich / doing laundry

3) Sit back and reflect on how you showed that bitch

>>1948359
step 4: watch as your troglodyte fellows back you up, simply by merit of you all being in the same seekrit club

>>1948352
>>1948352
are you fucking retarded? Do you even know what an 'argument' is?

An argument is a rational proof for a stated position. What you are asking for is an argument to prove another argument which either shows you're an idiot or a troll, because an argument is supposed to be a proof in itself. So to have to advance a proof for a proof would require an infinite regress.

tl;dr U DUMB

>>1948369
you're right, this is a pretty crucial part of the process. as long as they get those kitchen jokes in there, it's like they don't even need to make valid arguments to get people to agree with them.

>>1948370
My argument is that grasshoppers actually communicate through little grasshopper words.

Prove me wrong. Oh, you can't? GUESS I'M RIGHT.

>>1948371
You.

>>1948370
hmmm yase discussion about the nature of the world and the circumstances of human life obviously are akin to logical propositions and should be governed by the same rules.

actually wait, no, you're a dumbass. outside the bounds of logic, an argument is not a rational proof for a stated position; certainly, schopenhauer has an argument, but does not have a rational proof for it. it's completely reasonable to ask for real-world examples which support schopenhauer's theory about how the world works. and if you're seriously going to get pissed at me because i said "argument" instead of "position" or "analysis" and thereby went against the strict philosophical meaning of argument: go to hell you wanker.

>>1948376
fine. I have time to indulge you.

>One need only look at a woman’s shape to discover that she is not intended for either too much mental or too much physical work.

proof: look at a woman, she is weak. therefore what schopy said is true here.

>for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man

if you disagree with this then you've never known a woman. women dont know how to be thrifty. they spend all their time on useless shit like makeup/clothes and their only concerns are with what can make them prettier, or benefit them in some menial way in the short term.

now go do the laundry

>>1948386
you're a real cutie pie, you know that

>>1948381
>ad hominems
>logic doesn't matter

typical womanish reasoning.

>>1948386
Buddy. Women are faggots. Have you ever met a faggot? Or a woman? It's basically like a guy, except that's really girly, emotional, and gay. Right?
Well, that aside, guys aren't far removed in terms of maturity & shit, they're just different (because of preposterone). They're not as faggy, but certainly immature and dumbfucked in their own way. Now, personally, I think they're these things in a far cooler, badasser way, but that's completely subjective. But then that's what life is. Subjectivity.

TL;DR GUYS RAWK, CHICKS SUCK, but they're both as fucked.

>>1948386
>womens' shapes dictate their mental and physical abilities
umm...
>some women do things
Yeah, I know some women do things.

So basically you can't prove any of this?

>>1947972
This shit can't be learned form a book bro. You need to get out more.

>>1948395
>>1948395

do you even know how to read? woman are smaller than men, so they are less suited to manual work. simple.

oh i forget gender is a social construct. derp.

>>1948392
You have literally found the exact lowest gender philosophy I can comfortable accept, sorta.

>>1948392
you're an idiot.

>>1948398
LOLWUT?

>>1948399
NO U

>>1948397
I'll derp you to death
For what reason are they mentally deficient compared to men?

>>1948392
>>1948386
And, to be clear as fuck, that only referred to emotional shit. In terms of cognitive capacity, it's all equal, dawg.
It's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall equal. Equal. As. Fuck.
Trrrrrrrrrrrrust me.
Trust your nigg.

>>1948411
er.

Realize you're a fucking neck beard and a sexist at that.

>>1948424
My FATHER was a neckbeard and a sexist!

>>1947987
Actually, female psychology and behavior, as well as human psychology and behavior in general, is well-studied and predictable, especially when it comes to sexual preferences, mating rituals, and relationships.

Your post seem to indicate an adherence to the archaic and inaccurate "blank slate" theory of mind.

>>1948451
See, this is actually false..what psychology has learned to predict is certain neurochemical phenomena..the interpretation of these phenomena, and the practical applications of said interpretations--is often highly debatable, and only people who watch too many pop-science television shows, or read national geographic magazine (since its gone to shit) believe the interpretation of raw research data into such banal conclusions is useful or ''factual''..it's as horrible as people saying male infidelity is ''evolutionary'' or that females are ''more emotional''..true science does not make these sort of prescriptivist, anecdotal statements--but people like the guy w/ the hair from ancient aliens do..and it filters into culture and people then think they know more than they do.

>>1948455
These sorts of statements are neither anecdotal nor "prescriptivist."

There is some evidence that male infidelity is a sexual adaptation (which is reflected by statistics which show that men cheat more than women do). That isn't a value judgment, it's a sociobiological hypothesis about the origins of a certain human behavior. To describe the behavior is not to condone or encourage it.

And while many of the cognitive and behavioral differences between men and women are innate, for the OP's intents and purposes it is irrelevant whether they are biologically or environmentally driven are irrelevant.

Seriously, though, read Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate." Maybe then you'll evolve out of your liberal-arts gene-denialism attitude.

>>1948480
>it is irrelevant
>are irrelevant
Kindly ignore my derping.

>>1948480
I don't deny genes, I deny the validity of phoney interpretations of scientific data being passed off as fact. When it comes to gender-specific behavior and evolutionary adaptations, there are endless hypotheses..the most rigorously tested ones are usually the least sensational--this is due to the very nature of scientific fact..whereas the most sensational, and for that the most conducive to confirmation bias (such as your own) get the most popular attention--this is because these hypotheses, while usually not rigorous, provide what seem to be simple answers to the most complex questions--and may people go around passing a poor hypothesis off as fact, simply because it has been advanced in a publication..now, you will not usually see such broad statements as ''men are unfaithful because of evolution'' in legitimate scientific journals--you will see it in popular media..and what you are suggesting is not simply descriptive, if you had any awareness of context, you would understand that most of what is being said about the differences between men and women is being exaggerated..and while certainly there is a scientific basis for cognitive differences, these differences are so negligible in most cases as to be practically non-existent...and then you suggest I read a pop-science book..you should really just study science more, read the legitimate journals, and stop having such a confirmation bias for your sexism. Seriously, you used the words ''mating rituals'' and that is a really out-dated term from the field of anthropology that was then muddled up into other natural sciences by non-scientists in nature films and because of cultural production, people like you think that there are these ''mating rituals'' when the truth of all behavior is far more complex than that...science does not mean to simplify, it means to specify--and it tends towards variation and articulation, not simple answers

>>1948496
>not simply descriptive
>differences between men and women is being exaggerated
>differences are so negligible in most cases as to be practically non-existent
>your sexism
Ha-ha, oh fucking wow. It's like your trying as hard as possible to be a liberal PC stereotype.

>>1948502
Once again, confirmation bias and you've added a strawman into it--it's not liberal p.c. it is rigorous skepticism..not buying into the easy answers, not taking these hypotheses as statements of fact, and generally not believing that the science of cognition and human behavior is so simple that it can be broken down into easy to digest statements..the differences between men and women cognitively are negligible--in practice--because ultimately men and women have to perform most of the same basic tasks, and these basic tasks of survival are what make up the vast majority of our processing..the other small part of our mental functioning can be divided into other categories, and most of these even aren't gender specific--it's not about being politically correct..the fact that human minds of both genders and all races are almost totally the same does not say anything about the quality of individuals or even groups..if you think men and women are different and even unequal you will have to accept the responsibility of that opinion, and not take unqualified scientific hypotheses as an objective justification of what you think is true..

>>1948524
>>1948502

>>1947972
you want to understand women? get a cat. analyse its behaviour, how it reacts to you. then behave with women as if they were cats

schopenhauer was right in that respect, women are like animals or children. theyre not mystical or hard to understand once you realise they are not rational, nor do they think according to a 'different logic'. they think according illogic.

>>1948592
You fuck cats.
You sick fuck.

>>1948592
>implying cats are not rational
All jokes aside, how's virginity treating you? And having sex with your cat doesn't count.

>>1948601
Don't know about him, but for me it's a blast.

>>1948610
Oh god..do you think that the dog is consenting to that, or is consent out of the question in these cases? Or does it matter, because pets are treated as property are they not? At any rate, I hope that guy gets raped by a gorilla.

>>1948615
Naw, dawg, they consent.
They lay there and take it... panting extra hard, and wagging their tail, as you plow them lovingly. And whisper, "Good girl," in their ear.

>>1947972

That totally gross book, written by a female german author; can't remember the title or the author's name though.

>>1948616
I guess that means they like it? Honestly I don't understand dogs at all, but I know they are very stupid so I guess it makes sense that they would get fucked like this. A bit taboo, and I don't think it's what you'd call real consent (pretty sure they are incapable of making an intelligent decision) but whatever..I'm more worried about people who get raped than animals tbh

>>1948619
wetlandz?

>>1948621
Hey, man, how do you handle it when YOUR bitch is in heat?

>>1948625

That's the one!

>>1948626
This is why I don't keep dogs..I had no idea you had to fuck them, but it's just another reason why they are too much goddamn work.

>>1948626
Alright, I admit I fuck that little doggy cunt raw..but my conscience is still plagued by the moral implications tbh.

>>1948625
>Helen has an unusual relationship to her body. She abhors personal hygiene and enjoys many of the bodily fluids which are secreted or excreted from it, be it mucus, pus, earwax, smegma, blood (including menstrual blood), sweat, or tears, but also men's sperm, all of which she "recycles" by putting them into her mouth and swallowing them. She loves to attract potential sexual partners by parading, underneath her dress, her unwashed vagina and the smells emanating from it. In a series of interviews Roche explained that cleanliness and above all pedantic care for their own bodies, including the use of artificial scents such as perfume, have been inculcated upon women for ages; that this obstructs their—not just sexual—self-realisation; and that the fear of harmful "bacteria" has been vastly exaggerated.[4][5][6]

>>1948636
It can be very rewarding. They're a lot of fun.
>>1948634
Oh. Well, I'm glad you came around. It takes balls to swallow your pride & admit it.

>>1948642
I know I'd be shocked if I found out someone wrote a book about my mom, too

Twilight

it's all you need.

>>1948643
>balls
>swallow
i'm so tired at first i thought you wrote ''it takes a lot of pride to swallow your balls and admit it" and for a minute i was impressed at how profound that was--but yeah..i try to stay open-minded.

>>1948654
Forrealz, bro?
I've been up for quite a while, too. I'm deadnuts tired. That's why I'm endorsing dogfucking on a /lit/ thread. I was surprised people are actually on /lit/. Then again I'm only on /r/ all the time anyways, because I'm a summerfag LOLOLOL.

>>1948657
on /r/ LOLOL shirley you jest. staying up all night doing heroin myself..tomorrow I go to detox..fucking bummer :/

>>1948658
Woah, you got it all planned out? Well fuck. I don't even damn know what I'm doing. But you can't always be thinking down the road, friend. You gotta live in the NOW.
What day is it?

>>1948601
theres no connection between being a virgin and having negative opinions of women. in fact i'd say theres a negative correlation: more experience with women leads to a demystification; white-knight-ism evaporates and the reality that women are just money/cock hungry whores, that lack men's sense of honour or sensibility and are intellectually and morally inferior.

only a virgin would be inclined to think that any criticism of women = being a virgin.

so, how's being a virgin working out for you?

Women think pretty much in the same way as men
What do you find confusing about them?

>>1948660
Did it take you that long to come back at me? Confirmed for virginity. Honestly, I've had a lot of sex and relationships and my fair share of demystification as you say..but demystification works both ways..many things that you assume about women you realize are definitely false...especially this idea of the superior intelligence of males..shit just growing up and leaving the basement will teach you that..intelligence is an individual thing..and believing that all males are better is a pretty weak way of implying you are somehow intelligent..anyway..I think it's a decent correlation between virginity and misogyny..Nietzsche staid a virgin his entire life..
>>1948659
Yeah bro, I have to go..i'm losing my apartment and i'm all out of money..plus my gf is going to prison and I just figure this is as good a time as any to get clean.

>>1948660
I don't know about him, but for me it's a blast & a half.

>>1948667
Aw, c'mon man. Don't be a quitter.

>>1948667
>referring to Nietzsche at all
>ignoring (or ignorant of) the fact his death was syphilis-related.
full retard status achieved.

That aside, the fact remains nearly all significant intellectual achievements were accomplished by men. That isnt to say that men are 'all' superior.

>Honestly, I've had a lot of sex and relationships
>denying being a virgin on 4chan
virgin status confirmed

>>1948673
>ignoring (or ignorant of) the fact his death was syphilis-related.
>fact
oopsy daisy

this thread = a conjuration of imbeciles

>>1948673
>still thinks Nietzsche died of syphillis
>calls me a retard for knowing the latest information
>doesn't realize that Nietzsche was fond of throwing around misogynistic aphorisms
Wow..you mad? and ignorant?

>>1948669
I wouldn't quit, but you know..it gets to be a hassle. I'm thinking next I'll join some kind of religious cult.

>>1948480
pic related

>>1948682
god i love that pic so much

>>1948673
Let's not get too caught up in sucking cock to realize that all significant intellectual achievements so far were achieved during the long-standing trend of women being kept from all academia precisely because of the belief that they're inferior to guise. Self-fulfilling shit.
In any case, we can all agree that WHITES INVENTED EVERYTHING LOL, NIGGERS AIN'T DO SHIT EVER WITH THEIR STUNTED APE BRAINS AND GORILLA NOISE MUSIC, AMIRITE.

>>1948685
True that..roody-poos only invented stealing bikes.

>>1948685
I knew some one would say that. Feminist nonsense!

Plenty of men went without a formal education, but they educated themselves. Melville for example. No women did that. Now kill yourself.

>>1948692
Most men are just insignificant losers such as yourself. You are not Herman Melville..remember that.

>>1948692
Ahahahahaha. Yeah, Susie was practicing astrophysics on the side while sewing, doing dishes, and taking care of the kids! She didn't need any of that Harvard bullshit. That shit's for chumps that can't learn shit by their OWN selves. What was I thinkin'?

>>1948700
Duh?

Herman Melville is Herman Melville. No one else is Herman Melville.

You stupid woman, can't you come up with anything other than insults, ad hominems, virginity accusations or 'cant get laid' taunts?

No you can't, because you're a stupid woman.

>>1948706
lrn2read.

I said plenty of men didn't get a formal education.

>>1948711
Well, yeah, but chances were that the ones who did were the ones pulling significant intellectual achievements out of their ass. I thought we were talking about those, not poetry. A lot of women were great poets, too.

>>1948710
You're really a bad parody of a misogynist..the truth is you don't have the dominance to be a real misogynist..and this is probably true of all 4chan women haters..you can tell it by the way you write these effete, stereotyped and bitchy little comments..it sounds more like a faggot than a man..it comes down to what is apparent..no self-confidence..a man with self-confidence would not insult women like you do, and would certainly not point to the achievements of someone else to prove his point..that's the thing..I am a man, and I understand that I don't need to insult women like this..because I am secure in my manhood..you sound like a little kid who's mad at his momma.

By the way, in case you were too busy splattering your bigoted anal leakage from that stick you got all the way up there in another thread to've followed, >>1948700 isn't a woman. Remember: assumptions make an ass out of--well, whatever, like it matters by now.

>>1948727
D'aw, beat me to the punch.

>>1948727
I..am......a man..and..i'll..kick you...in the ass...are you ready..to..die..... ?

>>1948731
brofist

>>1948682
>ad hominems
>strawmen
>sociobiological buzzwords and popular hypotheses

Is that supposed to have a point?

>>1948733
Is this some kind of meme? Haha you are really a little kid. Don't spill your sippy cup. At times, women ruled Egypt, Women are integral members on all scientific research teams and today women are proving themselves to be capable of anything a man can do. I don't say this because I think men are worse, I say it because I think equality is a really great thing. You may talk about the past, but today women are developing new technology and working on projects like the LHC. You don't know about this, because you really aren't that interested in science I'd imagine. It's also been shown that girls are getting much better scores in math and science than boys are..

>>1948735
Yeah it's supposed to be funny, you autistic little bitch. Not everything is parsed in logical terms, and I doubt you make only logical statements.

>>1948740
no, it was a third party making fun of the way you put two periods between every fifth word and type like a cartoon character

>>1948734
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>>1948743
Sure smells like samefag..I'll try to put three ellipses in my ellipses next time, dawg.

>>1948742
Watch the gendered insults, bro

>>1948749
I was calling you a dog. And autistic.

>>1948753
I'm not the guy you were getting mad at.

>>1948749
Yeah, you autistic little bitch.

>>1948742
>it's supposed to be funny
It fails miserably, then.

>>1948755
oh my b
>>1948761
maybe you didn't get the joke

>>1948761
It was also supposed to make fun of/preclude more bullshit from the sexist douche-nozzles in here, but A.) they're far too up their own ass to notice that, so B.) they keep hashing out bullshit.
So, yeah, it failed pretty miserably.

>>1948765
From what I gather it essentially boils down to:
>lol those silly evolutionary psychologists what with their theories that offend my liberal sensibilities

>>1948770
Yeah because it's liberal to not use crass generalizations and state half-baked hypotheses as fact.
Oh wait--that's totally what liberals *and* conservatives do
I'm glad I don't buy into the spectacle of ideology.

>>1948772
Cool straw man, bro.

>>1948775
opinionated description =/= strawman..i curse the day that summerfags learned the words ''ad hominem'' and ''strawman'' but did not learn to use them properly. If you notice, there was never a logical discourse going on in this thread, so pointing out fallacies is purely masturbation.

>>1948783
>HEY GUYS I DISAGREE WITH THIS POSTER, HE MUST BE A SUMMERFAG AMIRITE? XD

>>1948772
I'm glad we were all good, wet, & lubed up before he stuck his big, hard cock of wisdom up there & shot a huge, educational load of old-fashioned right into our tight, new age-y, societally-indoctrinated assholes of political correctness & wrong.
I think we're all richer for the experience.

>>1948786
By the way, that little girl there has no chance of ever being as smart as you. Sucks for her; just how it goes.

I love women.
I love their bodies and femininity.
I love their womanliness.

I also enjoy the penis and balls, not so much the male physique though.

>>1948786
When people use the word ''societally'' (not a word) instead of the word ''socially'' I generally disregard what they say because only the worst kind of moron does that. Couple this with your neo-con talking points and I think you are sadly, probably a person too old to be on 4chan and too stupid to be on /lit/..
>>1948785
you can't hide behind your rhetorical questions, son.

Evolutionary psychology is nothing but speculation and hypotheses.

>>1948788
why not
male physique is beautiful
i don't really like the dicks tho

>>1948788
>>1948794
Anuses and taints are nice as well.

>>1948789
Damn. Societal's a word. I guess adding an extra "ly" is just way too off fucking limits for you to overlook, so you disregard the entire statement, and assume the person's "the worst kind of moron". That's cool. I understand, you have standards.
And you're right. 20 is far too old to be on here. This should be left to the kids. You're a kid, right? Because that's what that would have to mean. A kid smart enough to be on /lit/, evidently.

>>1948799
Yeah, you're really mature.

>>1948799
Seriously, you're 20 and spouting anti-liberal diatribes L O fucking L because you must be joking..I guess at 20 you've really pulled yourself up by the boot-straps. I assumed you were too old because usually people who talk about ''liberals'' like you do are 30 year old burn outs with something to prove..seriously, what the hell..anyway It doesn't matter..but yes I hate when people use the word ''societally'' that much..and it happens a lot.

>>1948811

Ignore the tripfag. It's a tripfag. They're worthless.

There is no such thing as a female mindset. Any book that says otherwise is crap. Women are individuals and think individually. God, overgeneralizations won't take you far in life.

Read pick up artist literature. Learn what drives women on primal, biological level. Add all the fancy shit on top of that.

Also, be sceptical about what women write about themselves. They are an unreliable source as their eloquence exceeds their self-awareness.

>>1948848
>Read pick up artist literature. Learn what drives women on primal, biological level. Add all the fancy shit on top of that.

I really cannot take you seriously.
haha oh man, go back to /b/

>>1948848
Yeah and men are perfect god kings of humanity, amiright?

>>1948852
basically

>>1948850

I'm being totally serious. Why do you think pick up artists
are called that? They know their shit and get results.

>>1948862

No, they shower, shave, take care of themselves, (pretend to) have confidence, and do a lot of trial-and-error. You don't need some mystical HURR I KNOW HOW WIMMENZ WORK guru to know that's a viable approach.

>>1948862
Yeah, you know who they pick up? Pathetic, naive losers who have no chance of every satisfying a woman sexually. This is where that pseudo-psych bullshit comes in handy--to con dudes out of their money. (most of these men just need to realize that they cannot sleep with girls who look like the porn they fap to or the axe body spray commercials. sad, but true. no, they don't care if you're funny. no, they don't care if you're nice. if you aren't really good looking then you have no chance. go after someone in your league and stop being such a joke to the rest of humanity.)

>>1948854

Men are even simpler. We see tits and wide hips: a healthy mother to our babies - let's fuck her. Civilizations have been built because of our desire of a great piece of ass. We're just not complex enough to hide our urges unlike women.

>>1948874
Oh yes, all truth is simple, that's why even idiots can figure it out. -_-

>>1948868

Err... Who said anything about it being complex? It's straightforward. Give women what they desire, not what they say they want. No need for fancy philosophy here nor psychological theories other than the basic understanding of what drives our primal instincts.

>>1948883
"primal instincts"
Post someone you scored with using primal instincts and if its not timestamped you are just a liar and a loser.

>>1948874
you're dumb as fuck bro

>>1948886

Look, OP asked for help, I gave him my recommendation. I didn't claim to be a pua. No need for that if you're in a relationship. But it really is another view on how women work, field tested millions of times. How many highminded psychological theories can make the same claim?

>>1948900
Honestly, if you believe that I have a way you can get absolutely rich, working from home. If you just buy my tapes, attend my conferences..I promise people all over the country, millions of them, are making a real living selling our great product...seriously, bro, don't be taken for a fool.

doesn't matter how much pussy you get, all of you are deep down a bunch of fucking pathetic losers

>>1949001

the projector may become somewhat depleted and rendered limp in character, as while attributing himself in others, he loses part of his personality

You're going to fail. Why? Because you are using generalization.

>>1949005
>oh look at me guys look at how witty and smart i am

>>1949024
don't give him stupid ideas

I think everyone needs to realize that an intellectual board on 4chan is simply not possible.


From the looks of it, an intellectual board on the *internet* is not possible. Morons have a nasty habit of interjecting with their opinions.

>Listen to a woman's advice on how to get a woman
Bullshit about respect, politeness and smiling a lot

>Listen to a chauvinist's advice on how to get a woman
Bullshit about being the alpha male and reading Sun Tzu

>Ignore their advice and use common sense
Pussy pretty much everywhere

>>1949038
that was a pretty great contribution mr. genius

really raised the average IQ per post level

ctl+f 'the game'

nowhere

you should read 'the game'
shit's hilarious and he makes some good observations

what's all this about female mind? there isn't much going on in a woman's mind
its pretty simple
either you're good looking or you're not
If you are, you just have to be confident
if you're ugly... you better have money

treat them like mushrooms...keep them in the dark, and feed them shit

Anything by Martin Amis.

No one work is sufficient.

You make it sound like women are from a completely different species or plane of existance, or something.

>>1949089
...from Mars, ... from Venus.

They're individuals and each one thinks differently. Kinda like dudes.

>ctrl+f beauvoir
>no results

I'm not going to read all this thread full of trolls, but The Second Sex by Simone Beauvoir is a really good book about the female mind, for real.

As a man you will never understand the mind of a female. Even if a female tries to explain her self to you.

I really hope that most men aren't as fucking retarded and out of touch with reality like the males in this thread.

fucking neckbeard sexists

>>1949130

Siegfried

>>1949147
>>1949136
>>1949137
>>1949134
>>1949139

all this effort...why
>>1949142
>>1949143

Siegfried and Gutrune

Siegfried and Brunhilde

Siegfried and Brunhilde again

>>1949120
thats because women don't even understand themselves.

they claim to be more emotional, but really theyre more irrational and dont have any fucking idea what they 'want'

Siegfried's first experience with fear

>>1949161
Woops, that was Hagen
And this is too

Hagen and Gunther

Gutrune

Gutrune giving Siegfried the Memory Draught

fuck off.

stop posting pictures of women taken with cameras invented by men, representing fictional characters invented by men.

you fail

Gunther and Hagen

Cesar Vezzani

Franco Corelli as Calaf

Franco Corelli in car

Franco Corelli in chair

Jussi Bjoerling

Mario del Monaco

del Monaco pretending to paint as Cavaradossi

Lauritz Melchior

Melchior and Windheim

Melchior with Pons

Set Svanholm

Franco Bonisolli

Fritz Uhl

Richard Tauber

u mad sexists

i am a man and love women, unlike you forever alone homosexual neckbeard sexists.

Tauber conducts Schmidt

Tauber & Lehar

Frank Guarrera

I'll tell you how the female mind works.

Action -> Reaction.

There you go. Just like the male mind.

>>1949237
Excuse me, but may I ask you to please not interrupt during the performance?

Alfredo Kraus

>>1949252
Sorry again, that was Pavarotti
And so is this

Giuseppe Di Stefano

Carlo Bergonzi

We begin our conclusion here with a large image of Lawrence Brownlee

And end with a picture of Stefan Zucker, the world's highest tenor.

The manipulated man /thread.

bump for opera

>>1949237
TL;DR on most of the thread... I read this post, though. Seems to sum up most of what OP asked.

If you're a man who hates women it is because you are jealous and wish you were one, just grab a boxcutter and get it over with already. Real men love women because of their differences from men, not despite them.

>>1950396
>>1950327
>didn't understand the purpose of the thread
This is about opera, children. Go to /adv/

>>1950396
real men don't exist
dumb motherfucker

The return of Fritz Uhl for an encore

Beniamino Gigli

Enrico Caruso

>>1951859
sage it ranga

>>1947997
How people like you manage to function with a and glaring lack of intelligence general knowledge is beyond me.

There are a lot of autists who are smarter, more succesful, andget laid more often than you.

>accuses others of summefaggotry, is inexusably ignorant

girlslaughing.jpg

>>1951869
why would I sage with such a beautiful collection of images