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Are the books of this dude worth reading?

>> No.19506552

>>19506509
Submission is the best political forecast of 21st century Europe. He predicted the Islamic conquest of France with stunning accuracy, albeit with dates that may be a bit off. We’ll see though, I wouldn’t be surprised if an Islamist party beats ale Pen in the upcoming French election.

>> No.19506559

>>19506509
If you have never had sex yeah

>> No.19506563
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>>19506509
What books are worthy of you?

>> No.19507561

I haven't read everything, but "Extension du domaine de la lutte" and "Les Particules Elementaires" are very nice

>> No.19507791

>>19506552
and who may this candidate be?

>> No.19507817

>>19507791

I've read both. Elementary Particles really rattled me bad. I knew the global American regime was bad but to imagine that we're really headed to something like that. Unimaginably evil

>> No.19507821

>>19507561
>>19507791
>>19507817


Meant to reply to 561

>> No.19507872

>>19506509
I would say no, but they pass the time.

>> No.19507891

>>19506509
I think if you were interested in the hyper atomization of society and all the resentment that comes out of that he was ahead of the curve in a lot of ways.
Outside that historical note I think he has kind of lost his own thread at this point, I get you cant really be completely dispassionate, but I really get the sense that hes just venting resentment at this point, and I dont think that's an informative or helpful framing of his point.
You might find it cathartic if you personally like him, but I dont

>> No.19507982
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>>19506552
With this little nigga in the presidential race, the situation at hand will be almost as bad as in Submission during the election process if he gets through the 2nd turn. It's unlikely but if we get a 2nd presidential election turn with 2 far-right candidates, it's civil war.

>> No.19508127
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>>19506509
Serotonin is good so far; 3/4 of the way through (probably finish it off tonight). The first book I've read by him and I'm going to check out his others. I think he filters a lot of libtards and it's actually easy to see why.

I can only go off of Serotonin--the main character is a high-earning civil servant; a member of the privileged upper-middle class one would usually associate with the liberal elite. However, instead of reflecting a contrived and entirely theoretical solidarity (i.e. poverty of empathy) for the working people and parroting the ideological consensus of his political class, he's in an existential malaise characterized by genuine self-loathing. He's symbolically (and literally, due to antidepressants) impotent to act according to any conscience so he drops out of society and bares (a somewhat detached) witness to the plight of working class farmers (the main one of which is a member of the aristocracy who chose to take up a working class life style and got hung out to dry for it by the emergence of globalist technocrats).

Anyway, I think the filter is there because the general liberal reader is an NPC. The main character is a member of the elite they aspire to be a part of but he's entirely disaffected by being aware of the larger sociopolitical currents he's submerged in. Instead of falling back on a contrived solidarity backed by a political ideology he just reflects on being impotent. He's been practising his shooting and there's a protest, I'm at the rising action part of the book so I can't give a final thought on it yet—the climax is probably going to be important in giving a full take. .

Also, as far as I can tell people saying his books are for incels are retarded. Pretty shallow take and it means you're either a midwit/pseud or didn't have enough to bring to the table in order to provide a decent criticism of his work. But, like I said, maybe I have to read his other books—as far as Serotonin is concerned that take is stupid.

>> No.19508144

They’re good, not great. Fortunately or unfortunately, that alone qualifies him as one of the greatest authors currently writing so I’d say he’s worth a read.

>> No.19508771

i liked whatever (the french title is way cooler), and if you dislike the countryside, then is right up your alley

>> No.19509099

>>19506509
This man gets uglier every time I see him, even the same photo gets uglier on repeat visualizations. No hard feelings but man, he's ugly.

>> No.19509115

Just finished reading the map and the territory; it was quite enjoyable.
will start elementary particles tonight i think

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"I think I’ve more or less finished with the world as narration—the world of novels and films, the world of music as well. I’m now only interested in the world as juxtaposition—that of poetry and painting."
— Michel Houellebecq, The Map and the Territory

>> No.19510055

>>19506552
Submission was published in 2015, when the last big wave of immigration to Europe was already happening. Also France was already full of muslims from former French colonies by that time. For now you can hardly say he predicted anything, but I also don't think politically prophetic statements were the point of the book.

>> No.19510628

>>19507817
Yeah me too anon, i read it during this summer while i was working my shitty student job. This book hit me hard everytime, used to work with my head filled with thoughts about it.

Anyway, have a nice day 19507821 !

>> No.19510642

>>19507817

>le America le bad

Oh please.

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>>19506552
Wasn't it rather so that, in the book, Marine le Pen actually got a lot of votes and her party should have become part of the government? iirc the established parties squirmed in horror and did everything to deny le Pen access to power and thus started coalitioning with that moderate Muslim party. In other words, there was still strong resistance in the population, but they never got a say in forming the new government. I read the book right when it came out so memory might not serve me fully. But yeah in any case a moderate Muslim party that would shift European focus and weight to the Mediterranean(including North Africa) really doesn't sound absurd anymore.

>> No.19510908

>>19508127
haha where are these pics from?? Anyway this whole "he is for incels" argument really is retarded.
>>19509855
The times of great narratives are over. A writer would be painfully aware of this.