/lit/ - Literature

>>19533122
this is too hard to answer

>>19533122
start with the greeks

>>19533122
Five Dialogues by Plato (Hackett Classics) is a good beginning place

>>19533122
What shoes is she wearing?

>>19533122
HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG on the day of the rake I will take you as concubine.

For the answer though: Euhyphro, Apology, Crito, Meno, Phaedo, Symposium, Gospel of John, would be a good basis for further reading.

>>19533122
Plato: Phaedo, Aristotle: Prior/Posterior Analytics, Sextus Empiricus: Outlines of Scepticism, New Testament, Meister Eckhart: Book of Divine Consolation; Descartes: Discourse on Method, Spinoza: Ethics, Kant: Prolegomena, Hegel: Texts and Commentary; Heidegger: Country Path Conversations, Lyotard: Postmodern Fables

What kind of shoes is that beyatch wearing? They remind me of these blue Nikes I had when I was a kid, which I think we're Michael Johnson models, whom I only vaguely remember as a runner.

>>19533122
>layman foundation for philosophy
Honestly this is too vague. What type of philosophy? What are you trying to actually learn? If you're trying to get an overview of Western philosophy then you could probably pick up some secondary source that sums up the events in philosophy and covers the main ideas of the important thinkers, leaving you with a sort of guidemap to actually read them. If you actually want 5-8 primary texts to "learn philosophy", assuming you mean Western thought in general, I'd say that's too few books and especially considering them to be "short". If I could ignore the short part and just give you 5-8 important thinkers/books I would say Plato, Aristotle, The Bible, Aquinas, Kant, Descartes, Nietzsche, and Heidegger. But this list is "incomplete" (as if you could ever get a full complete knowledge of Western philosophy. I'd say pick some part of philosophy that interests you, some question you want answered, and choose texts relating to that instead of trying to become "classically schooled" in philosophy or some other gay daydream about being mr smartypants. Me, I just started reading Evola and Plato because they seemed interesting.

>>19533122
Literary built for bbc

>>19533553
The shoes could be Air Huaraches

>>19533639
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

>>19533631
There's a value in reading primary texts, and many of the most influential works are short. Overarching histories are shit to get a quick overview for two reasons: someone without any knowledge of philosophy is at the mercy of the authors intentions in his interpretations (gutted humanist/atheist takes on everything a la Russell and now Alain De Boiton/School of life. Crap but ubiquitous.) And they aren't that short and simplified. The above list of 11-12 books >>19533553
is a quicker read than Copleston or History of Philosophy without any Gaps, not to mention those books often need to be read cumulatively/sequentially or encyclopediacally but they're written in such a way that many chapters/volumes expect one to be familiar with people and ideas established in numerous other places in the text. If the guy can read 8 short primary texts he'll probably move on to other philosophy at the point of completion anyway to round out his perceptions, with the unique advantage of having actually read the texts he now hold opinions about, rather than an opinion on an opinion.

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Unironically start with one of those "a very brief introduction to ___" books. Lean on companion books and YouTube videos as much as necessary. Start with the Greeks if you want to build a robust and comprehensive base. Read blurbs on random philosophers and their ideas before commuting to massive books if you're just looking to dabble. I would also like to add: mmmmmmh sexy woman sex I bet she has a nice pink pussy I can kind of see her boobies through her shirt oouuughhggg sexy sexy sex woman booby sex.

>>19535529
Basically this including the last part but the pic is also right.

>>19533122
It is not really possible to give a list of 5-8 original works that encompass all branches of philosophy, even fundamentally, to an adequate amount, you would have to be more specific as to what you are already interested in right now to provide a starting point of sorts, you are obviously not tabula rasa on this, unless you are a literal toddler.

>>19533122
This question cannot really be answered by I would perhaps recommend Schopenhauer, since his writings are inuitively "easy" to grasp, his views are very approachable for a beginner so to say.

Plato Phadeo, Aristotle Ethics, Descartes Discourse, Kant Prolegemena, boom did it in four don't even need five

>>19533122
Beiser German Idealism
Kant Second Critique
Beiser German Historicism
Hegel Philosophy of Right
Capital

>>19533153
shoes that look good on her

>>19533122
SEX

>>19533122
My god she is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen

>>19533122
she looks delicious
but a GOOD philosophy textbook with EXTENSIVE quotes from PRIMARY TEXTS is the only option for a solid foundation
philosophers had the bad habit of writing A LOT so you won't find any short that runs an idea from start to finish
otherwise start with Oration on the Dignity of Man by Pico; it gives a taste for rigor and width and it's shorter than anything comparable

>>19533639
>>19533753
Cope, shitskins. You will never be white, white women will always be repulsed by you no matter how much you fetishize them.

>>19533122
Lit memecore:
Hegel
Guenon
Evola
Land
Debord
Dugin
Moldbug

OP here. I understand philosophy has many branches and a few books isn’t enough. I’m basically looking for the evolution of western thought. I have a rough layman’s understanding of philosophies and philosophers but want to read some primary text. I understand there will be gaps and I won’t fully understand everything. I’m cool with that. Just want a rough list of the bare minimum, individual, primary texts that show the progression.

>>19533122
Blonde women can’t be attractive simple as. Not sure why you niggas thirsting

>>19537466
Evola was not a shitposter
he was a bitter old man who would have probably knifed you if he knewed you put him next to Hegel

>>19533639
>>19533753

>>19537497
That he took himself so seriously reinforces my belief he’s memecore

>>19533639
>>19533753
Mutt’s law

>>19537470
beside Pico (>>19537461) the only ones that come to mind is
Balthasar Gracian's Art of Worldly Wisdom
the fragments of Heraclitus (or the Corpus Hermeticum)
Phaedo by Socrates
to be honest I'm afraid to recommend something I haven't read

>>19537506
>"there is no hope in Tradition"

>>19537518
oh in fact you might consider The Fated Sky by Benson Bobrick... it's not exactly short and it's about astrology, but it illuminates a HUGE blind spot which nobody ever considers when they deal with the ancient world (or, might I say, any world before the 20th century).
there are GOOD reasons why "philosophy" survived and comparable non-fiction texts that explained the world (specifically 1. religions 2. journals) didn't; without considering such issues as daily life in those times, you will never understand the worth in philosophy

>>19537515
more like shitskins law, i personally knew two shitskins who were into that stuff, the people you are replying to are less white than mutts, or they are trannies which is just hilarious.

I can hardly express in words; the amount of joy it brings me to see people responding to my bbc bait.

>pro tip: I’m White and I can write immensely better than all of you gay lords

cheerz

>>19537592
I doubt you're actually white, but if you are you must cleanse your weakness from the genepool. Hopefully you've transitioned and have already done us this favour. Also your writing is probably garbage.
>immensely better
or was this more of you epix redditor bait? faggot.

>>19535529
This guy is right. I had to learn the general overview of philosophy before I could get much out of the texts.
The meme "start with the Greeks" is true because every philosopher has read them, and you'll be missing out if you skip the Greeks.

>>19533553
Fucked up a great with Spinoza and Lyotard and outed yourself as a pseud at the same time.

A good comprehensive history of philosophy, honestly, if you want a strong grasp id choose all of Copleston's history, from there you can dip your toes into whatever you like the sound of.

>started with Evola
>googled the people he referenced as I read
>got a solid overview and explored others from there

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>>19533122
Checked; I love blondes (though she's a little young for me); and: I would recommend Will Durant's The Story of Philosophy. It offers a good intro into Western philosophy, both the historical context at the time when the philosopher was alive, and what the philosopher was "getting at".

>>19533122
This girl his HOT, if I were there I'd be up her legs like a coon up a rain pipe!

>>19537877
>though she's a little young for me

>Elemental principles of philosophy by George Politzer.
Nice introduction to materalism, simple to understand.
>The Holy Bible
Regardless of what you choose to believe, the Bible holds much wisdom once you strip it from God, the new testament is a journey of self reflection, and you can find verses so fucking beautiful, so fucking raw you learn them from memory.
>Thus Spoke Zarathrusta
Contrary to popular opinion, Nietzsche isn't that hard to understand. His most exemplary work in which we can see what he aspired to do with beliefs and ideology.
>The Republic, Plato
Self explanatory, any book that comes after it (that means all of them) will have a base on this one. A nice introduction to the question of justice, democracy and reality.
>l'etranger, Albert Camus
Baby's first existensialist book, but nonetheless an essential read for anyone interested in any school of thought.
>Archetypes and the collective Unconciouss, Carl Jung
In this book Carl Jung explains gods and figures that humanity believes to percieve, where they come from and what they represent. Once you get his outlook on religions and existence as a whole, you start seeing everything with new eyes.

And of course, any philosophy dictionary you can get your hands on, because you're not impressing anything by being "too good" for them.

>>19537463
Literally who cares? it's just some dumb fucking roastie. I wouldn't be surprised if she did unironically burn coal.

based Georgia poster

>>19538427
b-BBC-chads, i-I KNEEL!!!!

>>19538427
>>19538446
Literally how will the BBC deniers >>19537463, >>19537504, >>19537515 recover from this? hahahahaha.

>>19533122
Anyone who struggles to answer a simple question like this is either too ignorant of the subject to have an opinion worth sharing or a spineless worm whose opinions should be discarded.

That said, here are my picks of very short philosophy essentials:

Plato's Gorgias
Descartes' First Meditation
Rousseau's Discourse on Inequality
Nietzsche's The Anti-Christ
Marx's On the Jewish Question
Heidegger's Introduction to Being and Time
Klages' Man and Time
Gettier's Is Justified True Belief Knowledge?

>>19533122
read an intro to philosophy textbook

>>19538513
with the rest of the white women you cuckold nigger, stop making these threads disingenuously

The principles of human knowledge
A treatise of human nature
Critique of pure reason
The world as will and representation (after two essays)
Untimely meditations
Maybe The worker dominion and form?
My diary desu

>>19533122
Yudkowsky's Sequences

https://www.readthesequences.com/

>>19538446
Her soft moans glide him into climax as he presses into her. Faster and faster.

>>19533122
Bump for philosophy (and my Canadian Kween :3).

>>19533122
Epistle to Menoeceus, Epicurus
The Philosophy of Money, Georg Simmel
Gödel, Escher, Bach, Douglas Hofstadter
and time.

>>19533122
I think it best to avoid most source material. In most cases, a layman would learn much from secondary readings than reading the main texts, which may be discouraging to read because many philosophers are bad writers.

I always recommend secondary introductions when you first get into something new. Believing it's better to learn Kant's philosophy reading the Critique of Pure Reason, for example, signals a person who is rather pretentious and more obsessed with showing off something than actually learning.

Now to answer OP, these books come to mind which are all relatively short. All of them have their issues and no exposition is perfect, only accessible primary texts are listed after a relaxed introductory books

*General history of philosophy*
1. A Little History of Philosophy - Nigel Warbuton
2. The Story of Philosophy - Will Durant
3. Morality: Intro to Ethics - Bernard Williams
4. At the Existentialist Cafe - Sarah Bakewell

*Easy primary sources*
5. Plato's Five Dialogues - Plato
6. Three Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous - Berkeley
7. Prolegomena - Kant
8. Existentialism is a Humanism - J.P. Sartre

>>19533122
Five Dialogues by Plato from Hackett
Matthew Mark Luke John Acts Psalms
Pascal's Pensees
The Great Catechism, St Gregory Nyssa

>>19533122
>>19540738
ooh shit forgot to answer why, was busy.

It's best to start a great endeavor like philosophy by taking a small portion first as an introduction. Plato is massive, and Trial and Death of Socrates plus Euthyphro are an excellent start to understanding what its all about. New Testament is a must for understanding western philosophy, and if you're going to read any of it at all you should read the Gospels. Acts and Psalms as well, for what-happened-after and context respectively. You can find tiny NT pocketbooks with those books of the bible in them, frequently they'll have military camouflage on them and have been given out for free. Pensees because Pascal's observations imo are timeless and he informs a lot of common wisdom in the modern era. St Gregory of Nyssa's Great Catechism is basically a primer for understanding Catholic philosophy under Aristotlean logic, something nobody by Theology PhDs seem to do anymore but its sorely needed by the public.

While you're getting recs pick up Aristotle's Organon as well, its where western philosophers have started for millennia. Good luck anon happy reading.

p.s. dont bother with existentialism or nihilism or faggoty-ass pessimism. Ecclesiastes did it better than any of them. And dont even think about reading postmodern "philosophers." They're performance artist obscuritanist retards and pedophiles, the world needs to forget they ever existed. Frankfort School faggots.