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19759824 No.19759824[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

We already have a guide to Western philosophy with the /lit/ philosophy project, but is there a guide to Eastern philosophy? I want to find the best translations out there. Specifically for the Chinese philosophers like Confucious, Laozi, and Han Fei

>> No.19759853
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>>19759824
The only "eastern philosophy," geographically speaking, and assuming Islam is excluded for being a permutation of Mosaic religion, would be Buddhism, which has been practiced in Asia everywhere from Afghanistan to Sri Lanka to Japan. But it started in India so you'd need to start with the 'Jeets.

>> No.19760037

>>19759853
That's interesting. I always thought it was more China than India. I've heard references to Legalism and Daoism in Western philosphy but never any references to Buddhism

>> No.19760098

>>19760037
Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Bataille, Deleuze, to name a few, have mentioned Buddhism

>> No.19760161

EASTERN PHILOSOPHY: DONT THINK OR WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING, ITS ALLL GOOOOD, JUST KEEP PICKING THAT RICE OK, IF YOU DO THIS WELL NEXT LIFE YOU MAY COME BACK AS AN EMPEROR!

OH YOU DONT WANT TO PICK RICE, WELL JUST LIVE IN THIS PRISO- I MEAN HOUSE WITH OTHERS JUST LIKE YOU, JUST BE REAL SIMPLE AND POOR AND DONT TRY TO HAVE SEX OK, THATS THE BEST WAY TO LIVE

OK GOTTA GO, MY GEISHAS ARE WAITING TO BATHE AND RUB ME WHILE I EAT SHUSH OUT THEIR ASS

THIS LIFE IS MISERABLE, BELIEVE ME ITS MUCH BETTER TO PICK RICE OR LIVE WITH A BROTHERHOOD OF MONKEY- I MEAN MONKS

>> No.19760227

>>19760161
This is major yin energy trying to distract me from my zen nirvana, namaste fellow traveller

>> No.19760415

You are what you're looking for

>> No.19760468

>>19759824
>start at the Ashtavakra Samhita
>end at the Ashtavakra Samhita

https://cupdf.com/download/astavakra-samhita
This is the version I prefer. 27 pages and you'll know everything that you need to know.

You're welcome, OP.

>> No.19760691

>>19760161
this but unironically

>> No.19760778
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>>19759824
eastern religions are literally memes

>> No.19760792

>>19760778
these are the larpers, not asians

>> No.19760908

So what happens I think is one needs to constantly consume.

One also prefers novelty.

If all of eastern philosophy and its wisdom could be summarized in a few sentences, it would be boring to read those same sentences over and over everyday.

Also if you internalized that, in an instant, then when you get 30. 50. 500 days away from that one instant, then what, youre on your own.

You have to deal with your own day to day thoughts.

So we see this with scripture too, s constant need to consume and consume, to keep the knowledge fresh, to make sure it doesn't leak out of you.

The power and beauty of the phrases refreshes and reminds you

It is like a clear lens to view yourself and the world

It is like yoga for the mind and soul

It is like the inspiration of flowers their scent and appearance

It is like fine clothes to nobly adorn the spirit

So how many eastern philosophy books exist, how much Buddhist and zen text poems.

It is a world of thought created to be consumed.

A certain flavor of being, a program.

>> No.19760915

>>19760908
Like bible poetry it is meant to uplift and comfort. To draw one further from savage beast hood, towards divinity.

There can be positive and negative qualities to the ways in which a person responds to certain poetry, ideas, philosophies.

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>>19759824
Here's my new Daoism chart.

>> No.19762283

>>19759824
This should be your reading list:
Confucius (Analects, Spring and Autumn Annals if you are interested in History), Mozi (Eponymous), Daodejing (As many free translations as possible), Gongsun Long (Complete surviving works), Zhuangzi (Eponymous)

This should give you the background needed to understand later philosophers such as Mencius, Xunzi, Han Fei, Wang Bi, and Giu Xiang

>> No.19762719

>>19760037
In china there's 2 forms of Taoism
>Common: involves old chinese shamanism and a clergy
>Philosphical: based exclusively on inward knowledge and the teachings of the sages in the Taozang
Legalism is a purely political philosophy in which the king uses the people in his global chess game as pawns, rooks and bishops as needed, this is the philosophy that founded China under Qin Shi Huang, his dynasty lasted less than a decade after his death because nobody loved the emperor and one commander and his entire host was going to be sentenced to death for arriving late due to being stuck behind a flood, legalism has since been a dirty word in China but as you can imagine every government has an interest.
Conficanism is a theory of social behaviour that states if all men are honest, merciful and pious to Heavan and the family then all will be well, the emperor is the father of the state (and the god Shennong is the father of the Han race IIRC), while Confucius and his disciple Mencius assumed men were naturally good some others assume men are naturally evil and belive the emperor must force men to be good and uphold the social contract.
Mahayana Buddhism arrived in China last and syncretised with common Taoism (Buddha is described as Achieving Tao)

>> No.19764083

>>19759853
Avatamsaka sutra is a "hidden" gem, everybody read heart sutra, and if you are not a larper, dhammapada. But the description of the world Avatamsaka offers is unparalleled.

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>>19759824
Something I love about Confucianism is that it hasn't been subsumed by new age dipshits and grifters. No hippie is going to read Confucius and think "whoaaaaaaa bro i just need to like follow my parents and make good on my word and shit"

>> No.19764139

>>19760792
They're clearly christians of some variety

>> No.19764527

>>19759824

Wm. Theodore de Bary was the foremost expert while he was alive. Check out his Sources series. Sources of Chinese Tradition, Sources of Indian Tradition, and so on.

>> No.19764580

>>19764128
Thing is, Confucianism essentially fills the role of Zoroastrianism or Christianity where it's a mix of family oriented values, respect for authority, abolition of slavery though it was less individualistic than the others due to Chinese culture already being inherently collectivist