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19805537 No.19805537 [Reply] [Original]

Welp, now that Dune has been given over to the normies, what's our new normie-free weird sci-fi book?

I almost want to say The Book of the New Sun, but it feels like that's becoming normie-filled too, I've seen it mentioned on fucking Twitter of all places.

>> No.19805544

Write your own and never publish it, so the normies will never ruin it

>> No.19805549

>>19805537
Twittet is too huge. Niche books are bound to be mentioned.

>> No.19805552

>>19805537
I don’t know which is the greater sin, that they made Kynes a woman or that they made him a nigger. I could stand one or the other, but both at the same time? Made me stand up and walk out the theatre when I realized that niggress was supposed to be Kynes

>> No.19805560

You could fawn over the Book of the Short Sun. Only autismos get that far.

>> No.19805565

>>19805537
>hurr durr dune was such a top-kek 4chan secret until the zendaya film came out and ruined it!!!
>definitely no normie would have heard of it before despite it being only one of the best-selling and most influential sci-fi books of all time with a bunch of media adaptations!!!
>also I can't enjoy books that normies know about because I'm not actually enjoying books but trying to feel superior to normies!!!
its all so tiresome

>> No.19805570

>>19805552
They made the Fremen nigs as well. They're meant to be Arabs.

>> No.19805574

>>19805570
...They were always meant to be Arabs, weren't they?

>> No.19805599

If you must have science fiction that no one's heard of, just look in the SF section of a 2nd-hand bookstore. Usually they're stacked high with paperbacks by long-forgotten writers.

>> No.19805608

>>19805537
Iain M Bank's Culture series. Player of Games could be adapted for a film pretty well, I think. Or at least a series or something.

But Dune is just fine, anon.

>> No.19805672

Gravity's Rainbow

>> No.19805740

>>19805608
Isn’t Bank a literal nonce?

>> No.19805750

The Second Apocalypse. Impossible to be claimed by normalfags

>> No.19805773

>>19805740
You can call them child fuckers like a normal human being

God British people are fucking disgusting

>> No.19805776

>>19805773
How about you shine my fucking bell, paki

>> No.19805805

>>19805552
It's really the minimum diversity the Jews would let Denis get away with

Ffs Dunc has blood libel imagery. Take what you can get man

>> No.19805811
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>> No.19805812

>>19805805
>blood libel imagery

Which part? I remember Herbery mentioning that Leto II was circumcised, but other than that I'm not sure.

>> No.19805814

The Night Land

>> No.19805820

>>19805812
uuuuuwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooowoooooooooooooooowoooooooooooooaaaaaaahhh

>> No.19805825
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>>19805820

>> No.19806010

>>19805537
Hyperion

>> No.19806024
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>>19805537
OP who gives a shit
are you incapable of enjoying things that """normies""" enjoy?
get over urself ay

>> No.19806035

>>19805570
>>19805574
They're the future descendants of a culture that practiced a syncretized blend of Sunni Islam and Zen Buddhist. They ought to be Sino-Semitic.

>> No.19806056

Book of the new Sun
Hyperion
Snow crash
Ubik

>> No.19806106

>>19805537
im pretty sure they will be filtered by a movie made about Dune Mesiah or Children of Dune
>>19805552
making him a women and changing how he died was the greatest sin

>> No.19806114
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>>19805537
lem
PKD
wolfe

>> No.19806123

>>19805552
>character that represents the Western Man who goes native
>make him not only a woman but an african
Its funny isnt it

>> No.19806179

Who cares?

Good movie though.

>> No.19806249

>>19806179
Eh, alright movie, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

>> No.19806259

>>19806106
>and changing how he died was the greatest sin

I haven't seen the film and had no idea this was the case, what did they change it to?. Kynes' death is my favorite part of the entire Dune saga so I am very concerned.

>> No.19806320

>>19806259
instead of the dehydration in the desert kynes flees from the outpost and puts down a thumper to sandworm ride away but gets stabbed by the sardaukar calls shai hulud "my master" then the worm comes and eats them
it was retarded

>> No.19806334

>>19806320
That is indeed very retarded. Yet another reason to not see it.

>> No.19806387

This thread pops up right as I got done watching it. Seethe about whatever you want, it's still far more faithful than most other adaptations. Though, I'll admit that isn't saying much.

>> No.19806389

>>19806334
what really gets me is the film barely takes time to develop the secondary characters its so hyper focused on Paul Jessica and Leto. Gurney and Hawat get relegated to a literally who status they have so little to do in the film and to a lesser extent Duncan and Kynes. Because they skip so much it creates plot holes that the book did not have.

>> No.19806416

>>19806387
On which page of the book do they mention the bagpipes?

>> No.19806423

>>19806010
this anon knows what's up

>> No.19806425
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>>19805537
Preferably some older stuff. Maybe pic related or Star Maker.

>> No.19806642

>>19805570
They’re best considered Circassians.

>> No.19806663

>>19806320
>dehydration in the desert

I thought Kynes died because of a spice explosion in the desert

>> No.19806667

>>19806663
And the reason he was there at that spice explosion is because of his dehydration and sun exposure making him too weak to get away from it.

>> No.19806713

>>19805537
kys, dune was never some kind of normie-free weird sci-fi book you absolute troglodyte. Are you seriously that stupid? How old are you, 12? It's literally the most popular sci-fi book in the history of time. Idiot.

>> No.19806732

>>19805537
why are you so afraid? Why is it so important to be able to tell yourself how non-normie you are?

>> No.19806738

>>19806732
You sound like a normie

>> No.19807237

I'd like to nominate Peter F Hamilton's sci fi. The Commonwealth books were all great and his latest, the Salvation series, is also interesting.

>> No.19807238

have you considered not being a fucking tryhard and just liking things regardless if normies like it

>> No.19807262
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19807262

King, simple as.

>> No.19807547

>>19806320
>calls shai hulud "my master"

had to make slavery references with her.

>> No.19807685
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19807685

>>19805537
Card bros, it's time.

>> No.19807699

>>19805537
The books are still normie-proof. No fucking way they'd manage to penetrate their weirdness.

>> No.19807706

>>19806123
Technically, Kynes is half-offworlder and half-Fremen. His father Pardot was the one who went native

>> No.19807709

>>19806010
Yeah, this. Great book and pretty much impossible to adapt in movie form. But the same is true for Dune and yet they did it twice, so...

>> No.19807736

>>19807547
Villeneuve is all about slavery!

>> No.19807744

Stop reading fantasy and grow up

>> No.19807856

>>19807744
It’s sci-fi actually

>> No.19807897

>>19807856
Manchild-tier as well

>> No.19807907
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19807907

Viriconium's time to shine now

>> No.19808029

>>19806114
Solar is is already a movie, as is some of Dick's stuff (Total Recall and Blade Runner, kind of).

>> No.19808033

>>19808029
>Solar is
*Solaris

>> No.19808356

>>19805570
>nooooooooo there’s racemixing 10000 years after humans have left their ethnic homelands it’s not realistic how could they DO THIS TO ME

>> No.19808460

>>19808029
right but something having a movie is not the only qualification for something being 'normie-free'. there are tons of niche books that have been made into movies that are also 'normie-free'. you could make an argument about how electric sheep is still relatively normie but not for most of PKD's other works. i have also never heard a normie mention solaris.
surprised no ones mentioned robert anton wilson yet

>> No.19808780

telling you guys your overreacting, the first film has already filtered normies expecting star trek star wars like space adventure and if they continue this into Dune Messiah or god forbid they make it to Children of Dune it'll filter all but those who actually care enough to read the books anyway.

>> No.19808848

>>19806010
This.
Also maybe Ubik, if less traditional sci-fi is your thing. Foundation still has a few months left in it too, before the Apple mini-series comes out, but Asimov is shit anyway.

>>19808780
Also this. I saw it with some normie friends, and afterwards they complained it was boring and indecipherable.

>> No.19808954

>>19805812
Messiah talks about blood sacrifices the fremen do for Paul iirc

>> No.19809000

>>19805537
I feel you, OP, this sort of thing can really grind a man down. Why, just the other day I saw some normies pooping in the potty. "That's MY thing!" I whispered angrily to myself as I crept away to a dark corner to shit in my pants. They won't figure that one out so soon!

>> No.19809117

>>19807685
Card's sci-fi really isn't that great. He's more of a religious or thriller writer. Everything after Speaker for the Dead, for example, is religious/philosophical with only a light glaze of sci-fi, while the Shadow sequels were strictly political/war thriller.

As time goes on, more and more it seems like Ender's Game was a fluke.

>> No.19809751

>>19806320
His death scene would not translate well to the movie. He died delirious in the desert talking to his dead father until a bit of sand under him exploded from gas.

>> No.19809769

>>19808780
I look forward to the God Emperor movie being 4 straight hours of Leto and Duncan talking in his lair

>> No.19809839

>>19809751
And it should have been a cornerstone of the film.

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>>19807907
I liked Light, is this any good?
>>19807685
Meh
>>19807262
(You)
>>19806425
Good picks
>>19806114
>>19806056
Bad taste
>>19806010
>>19805608
>>19807237
Go back

>> No.19809853

>>19809769
>Leto II is looking straight into the camera the entire time

>> No.19810020

>>19809769
>>19809853
top kek

>> No.19810141

>>19809769
I'm in, I sure hope Leto will be played by Jason Alexander in a sleeping bag.

>> No.19810157

>>19805537
Foundation

>> No.19810212

>>19809842
What's your problem with Peter F Hamilton?

>> No.19810299

>>19810157
m80, haven't you heard?

>> No.19810365

>>19810299
Amuse me.

>> No.19810381

Easily Hyperion. >>19810365

>> No.19810385

>>19805552
Kynes is in the movie for like... two minutes? Was nearly absent really. Way to be a little bitch. You got triggered.

>> No.19810388

>>19810365
Asimov has belonged to the normies for a ling time anon

>> No.19810390

>>19805565
Why are you still here? Hell, why am I still here?

>> No.19810392

>>19810381
You'll have to be more verbose.

>> No.19810399

>>19805570
>Live on scorching desert planet
>Have dark skin

Truly shocking.

>> No.19810414

>>19810388
Never seen any normos going o-faced over it

>> No.19810415

>>19806114
Solaris has had at least two film adaptations (maybe more) though, dipshit

>> No.19810418
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>>19808356
Nature will always tend toward exact reproduction of a certain set of genes, retard. Ethnocentrism is the default for every living organism, ever.

>> No.19810420

>>19806425
>Esoteric bullshit

Nah

>> No.19810431

>>19805537
A Canticle For Leibowitz. Take the post deluge monk pill.

>> No.19810433

>>19807685
Degenerate Mormon who plays out his incestuous fantasies in his novels. Shit tier author. Only reason any of you niggers loved it so much is because they made you read it in school.

>> No.19810445

>>19810392
In the 29th century, the Hegemony of Man comprises hundreds of planets connected by farcaster portals. The Hegemony maintains an uneasy alliance with the TechnoCore, a civilisation of AIs. Modified humans known as Ousters live in space stations between stars and are engaged in conflict with the Hegemony.

Numerous "Outback" planets have no farcasters and cannot be accessed without incurring significant time dilation. One of these planets is Hyperion, home to structures known as the Time Tombs, which are moving backwards in time and guarded by a legendary creature known as the Shrike. On the eve of an Ouster invasion of Hyperion, a final pilgrimage to the Time Tombs has been organized. The pilgrims decide that they will each tell their tale of how they were chosen for the pilgrimage.

The region of the Tombs is also the home of the Shrike, a menacing half-mechanical, half-organic four-armed creature that features prominently in the series.[11] It appears in all four Hyperion Cantos books and is an enigma in the initial two; its purpose is not revealed until the second book, but is still left nebulous. The Shrike appears to act both autonomously and as a servant of some unknown force or entity.

Surrounded in mystery, the object of fear, hatred, and even worship by members of the Church of the Final Atonement (the Shrike Cult), the Shrike's origins are described as uncertain. It is portrayed as composed of razorwire, thorns, blades, and cutting edges, having fingers like scalpels and long, curved toe blades. It has the ability to control the flow of time, and may thus appear to travel infinitely fast. The Shrike may kill victims in a flash or it may transport them to an eternity of impalement upon an enormous artificial 'Tree of Thorns,' or 'Tree of Pain' in Hyperion's distant future. The Tree of Thorns is described as an unimaginably large, metallic tree, alive with the agonized writhing of countless human victims of all ages and races.[12] It is also hinted in the second book that the Tree of Thorns is actually a simulation generated by a mystical interface which connects to human brains via a strong and pulsing (as if it were alive) cord. The name Shrike is undoubtedly a reference to the Loggerhead Shrike, a small fierce bird that impales its victims on thorns, spines, or twigs.

>> No.19810455

>>19807744
Ahh yes, the only things one should read are newspapers and manuals and maybe the odd magazine article here and there?

Life must be ABSOLUTELY mundane to be considered an adult? You're such a stupid little faggot.

>> No.19810460

Call of the Arcade

>> No.19810468

>>19810460
Rofl. Considering it’s like a right wing version of Ready Player One that might be a good pick.

>> No.19810475

>>19805740
I've never heard anywhere he's a nonce. Sauce on that?

>> No.19810477

>>19810418
>Societies standards are starting to slip

You idiots should be thankful for this, maybe now you'll actually be able to get laid.

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>>19805537
Take the Delany pill

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>>19810460
Based

>> No.19810495

>>19810460
Seriously thou why is that not as big as Call of the Crocodile? I read them both and CotA>CotC

>> No.19810506

>>19810495
IDK it’s weird. Especially since Call of the Arcade has other weird stuff like a school shooting in its plot.

>> No.19810531

>>19810445
Sounds bad, and lame.

>> No.19810571

>>19810531
because you are a normie.

>> No.19810593

The Darkness That Comes Before.
Dune meets Beserk with a bit of Game of Thrones set in what is essentially the First Crusade, with some interesting philosophical overtones.

Plus so much rape and violence, really impressive how much, it's on a level with Beserk, it will never be adopted by normies.

>> No.19810906

>>19810420
t. normie

>> No.19811331

>>19810418
There were still black hamplanets in 2009, they just didn’t put them on billboards.

>> No.19811409

>>19809842
>>posts dying inside
>>talks shit in lem

You are the exact kind of person OP is complaining about. Stop reading Stephen king tier hack shit and try harder.

>> No.19812149

>>19810431
Based Catholic Sci-Fi

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>>19810157
>He hasn't heard

Oh, my poor nigga....

>> No.19812391

>>19805552
Here's a de-Kynes'd edit.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MckZXqbfaWAL/

>> No.19812540

>>19810482
This the nigger that wrote Hogg, yeah?

Yeah, fuck that nigger.

>> No.19812544

>>19812391
>Literally 240p

Naw senpai

>> No.19812561

>>19809842
But anon, the Hyperion mentions are secretly, homonymically, unwittingly referring to Hyperion, the delightful novel by Hölderlin.

>Uh oh, the hons' invasion of Patmos has begun.
Blast off to Parnassus, anons!

>> No.19812570

>>19810482
Trouble on Triton has a hilarious lead male, he troons out at the end after realizing his type of personality is so rare and necessary in women that he must become one, to even the odds a little. But the joke is he's just a narcissist the whole time.

>> No.19812578

>>19812540
He looks white and gnomic, faggot.

>> No.19812582

>>19812578
I don't give a fuck if he looks like the Mona fucking Lisa, he's still a nigger for having written Hogg and he should be put down like the animal he is.

>> No.19812739

>>19812582
aww poor little you
mommy will shoo away the bad meanie for you
shoo! shoo!
there
he's gone

>> No.19812923

>>19812578
He looks white NOW, but back in the day when he was actually writing he was a darkie.

>> No.19813260

>>19806035
wow good post

>> No.19813270

>>19807685
scifi heavyweight

>> No.19813275

>>19807736
are the fremen capitalist of coomieist?

>> No.19813310

>>19810418
>cartoon profile picture
I would err on the side that this Twitter user looks more like the person he is making fun of than the other

>> No.19813321

>>19811409
Maybe Lem's other books are better than Fiasco. I wouldn't know. After reading something that bad I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt

>> No.19813323

>>19807685
Is this the book where the twist is the two people fucking are actually brother and sister?

>> No.19813369

>>19812391
>guys i deleted jarjar!!!
fan edits are laughable

>> No.19813375

>>19812582
hogg is unironically brilliant.

>> No.19813382

>>19813321
filtered

>> No.19813458

>>19810399
The middle east is FAR hotter and dryer than Africa, yet arabs and persians are much lighter in skin tone than africans...

>> No.19813464

>>19805608
commie garbage

>> No.19815285

>>19805570
The book literally says that some of them are black you stupid NIGGER

>> No.19815415

>>19807685
Card is ultimate normie-free author because he is le ebil mormon homophobe.

>> No.19815466

>>19815415
If he is homophobic, why did he make so many of his characters gay?

>> No.19815472

>>19810399
They should be Arabs, not West Africans with wide noses and ugly hair.

>> No.19815483

>>19815285
Some of them. Not 99% of them.

>> No.19815579

The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

Only heard one person mention this series

>> No.19815591

>>19808029
>>19810415
Yeah but literally nobody ever watched them.

I second Lem.

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>>19815579
That's because it's garbage.

>> No.19815655

>>19809842
alright I'm going back
*stays in place*
whoa I'm back

>> No.19815663

>>19807744
mmmmmmmmake me

>> No.19816434

>>19805544
>inb4: your book gets published posthumously and gets raped by them anyway

>> No.19816567

>>19816434
What’s the name of that one bitch who wrote poetry that didn’t get published til after her death?

She probably hates that

>> No.19816576

>>19805537
you are a normal

>> No.19816618

>>19816576
Sir, with God as my witness, I would strike you down if you said such words to my face

>> No.19816623

>>19812325
NOOOOOOOOO

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>>19805750
based Bakker fan but it's not sci-fi

>>19805811
checked and based schizo dicksucker

The Book of the New Sun is pretty "thick".. I don't use Twitter but I'm a bit surprised it's on there.

my vote is Greg Egan. he's the final boss of sci-fi in my book.. at least "hard" sci-fi that is

>> No.19816787

>>19816623
Your childhood will be repackaged for the urban youth and there is nothing you can do about it

>> No.19817761

>>19816787
Lets be honest, it'll be turned into an aesthetic theme to cover up some shallow pozzed bullshit.
That's not my childhood there, just something that vaguely resembles it if I squint real hard.

>> No.19817847

>>19805552
>have a character that is an example of going native
>he is a perfect example of the white man’s burden of colonialism, which fits today’s woke gen z
>he is proof that even an outsider can be assimilated into fremen culture
>pretty much lawrence of arabia in space
>a geologist that is murdered by a natural process of the planet he loved
>meant to stick out as a foreigner only subtly giving away his allegiance as a fremen

>villaneueve misses the point

>> No.19817852

>>19805570
they weren’t meant to have a homogenous appearance, that is why it was difficult at times to pick them out of a crowd.

they weren’t an ethnic based culture

>> No.19817860

>>19817847
>have a character that is an example of going native
>he is proof that even an outsider can be assimilated into fremen culture
>a geologist that is murdered by a natural process of the planet he loved
>meant to stick out as a foreigner only subtly giving away his allegiance as a fremen
I mean, those still work with a nigress.

>> No.19817865

>>19817860
i thought they played it straight fremen/native

>> No.19817870

>>19817860
they changed the death scene bro, epic battle instead of spiceblow

>> No.19817931

>>19816627
Which Egan book should I start with?

>> No.19818299

Call of the Crocodile. According to /pol/.

>>>/pol/358291831

>> No.19818301

>>19818299
Oh wow. That’s a lot of posters. I think we have a winner.

>> No.19818308

>>19818299
/pol/ is always right so why not lmao

>> No.19818316

>>19815472
Imagine being this fucking butthurt about the size and shapes of the features on the faces of the actors chosen to portray a fictional group of far future Bedouin ripoffs.

You need to pull that head of that ass of yours and take a breath of fresh oxygen for godsakes you absolutely triggered whiny alt right cocksucker.

You people are just as cringe inducing (if not moreso) than the leftoid faggots you infest this planet with.

GODDAMN IT you're such a fucking snowflake.

>> No.19818318

>>19818299
Based thread

>> No.19818555
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>>19818316
Lol, u mad?

>> No.19818654

>>19818299
Based thread

>> No.19818694

>>19805537
Auguste Villiers de l'Isle-Adam's science fiction.

>> No.19819013

>>19818694
Whom's't've'd?

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>>19817931
Permutation City is definitely (((the one))) in my book. yes it was written in the early 90s but it holds up very well. just don't expect amazing characters and character development.. it's all about the ideas

>> No.19819545

>>19805672
Perfect if you want to normie-proof yourself through the 43rd century.

>> No.19819556

>>19818316
Fremen aren't negroes. Never were. Face reality and touch grass.

>> No.19820177

>>19807856
primarily fantasy with sci fi elements

>> No.19820530

The film made me read the book and a month later I finished God Emperor.

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>>19820530
yeah I got up to God Emperor, that shit was based

>> No.19820979

>>19806114
The Soderbergh adaptation is underrated. Great atmosphere. Also the book kinda sucks ngl

>> No.19822483

>>19806425
holy shit no-one remembers Starmaker. utterly based and correct

>> No.19822612

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literally just about a simp who gets cucked to death by his best friend

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The Rediscovery of Man.