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20276928 No.20276928 [Reply] [Original]

Why is my writing better the more miserable I am?

>> No.20276931

>>20276928
Nietzsche explained that on the genealogy

>> No.20276939

>>20276931
Flattered that Nietzsche wrote about me and my affairs personally

>> No.20277000

>>20276928
I've had the same experience as well. Drinking helps on the first draft too.

>> No.20277011

>>20277000
I'm a striaght edge guy. Curious, how exactly do substances affect your writing, in your personal experience? If you don't mind me asking :)

>> No.20277015

>>20277011
shit, straight*

>> No.20277016

>>20277011
Fuck you, you faggot. Go and straight edge some niggers dick, you faggot.

>> No.20277113

>>20277016
please calm down friend

>> No.20277336

>>20276939
dumb fucking faggot

>> No.20277339

>>20276931
fpbp.
>>20276928
Go and read, you nigger.

>> No.20277361

>>20277336
>>20277339
please calm down friends

>> No.20277399

>>20276939
HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO FUCKING FUNNY.
die you fucking faggot

>> No.20277416

I HATE EVERY FUCKING FAGGOT IN THIS THREAD

>> No.20277443

>>20277399
>>20277416
lol

>> No.20277531

Because you, like many others suffering from mental illness, have used some delusional notion that the state of self-perpetuating misery you keep yourself in somehow makes you a more interesting, creative, or productive person and that getting help will somehow take away that spark and change who you are.

As with all things, it is a cope.

>> No.20277539

>>20277531
yeah you're probs right abt that

>> No.20277555

>>20277539
I know it because my girlfriend, who is a writer, is the same way. She goes through depressive spirals that bring her work to a complete halt, yet 'insists' that it is because of that darkness that she writes well in the first place. She romanticizes her misery instead of getting help for it.

>> No.20277566

>>20277555
admirable of you to remain her romantic partner anon

>> No.20277607

>>20276939
Ignore the other two gloomy gooses, I found this post very funny

>> No.20277610

>>20277011
Not him. If I have a lil bit of alcohol in me I've noticed I just come up with more creative ways of saying things.

>> No.20277626

>>20277610
fair enough

>>20277607
thanks anon. hoomoar is subjective and all that

>> No.20277687

>>20276928
Misery makes people more contemplative, which naturally leads to better writing.

>> No.20277696

>>20277687
That can deifnitely be the case, but I don't think there's anything "natural" about it. overthinking can lead to going off multiple tangents and producing generally muddy/incoherent content. All depends on the person though, doesn't it

>> No.20277834

>>20277555
Depression is just one of many mental illnesses anon. A lot of mental illnesses don't impact productivity as severely as depression can. What you were describing is common in people with long term, heavily stigmatizing conditions so I'm not saying it's an impossible scenario either.

>> No.20278201

>>20276931
How did he explain it?

>> No.20278238

>>20277531
Nah when I was depressed I was way more disciplined and thorough.

>> No.20278343

>>20278201
"What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger". Idk Nietzsche is a schizo. Read ecce homo he says how the happiest times of his life have been the sickest too. I guess suffering makes you go nuts and being nuts makes a good writer.

>> No.20278719

>>20276931
Better in Zarathustra:
"Good what is written by own blood."

>> No.20278722

>>20278343
Imbeciles like you even suffering cant make wiser.

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>>20277416
So does that mean you hate yourself?

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20278769

>>20276928
the more wrinkles on your face - the more wrinkles on brain. therefore smarter

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>>20276928
Plot twist: You only ever write when you're miserable.

>> No.20279093

>>20278722
Stupid science bitches couldn't even make I more smarter

>> No.20279117

Show us two paragraphs that demonstrate your premise. Let's actually see if you do indeed write better when you're miserable.

>> No.20279136

Something something suffering...
something something sublimation...

>> No.20279154

Sitting in front of an empty sheet of paper leads to nothing. When I try, I fail. When I lie awake in bed however, unable to shave off the depressive thoughts that swamp my body and make me sweat, I suddenly can hear the rythm and melody of whole paragraphs. Novellas made out of my own misery write themselves. It's as if my brain is on auto pilot. Yet, I'm unable to just get up and write it down. What the fuck is this cancer?

>> No.20280347

>>20276928
I thought for a while I was the same way, but I think what it really is, is introspection.

When I was depressed, I turned more inward, and was more aware of my feelings, and thus put more feeling into my writing.

But now three years after beating my depression I finally regained my ability to write again.

I've gained my introspection back, without being depressed. I'm in this transformative stage right now where my whole world view is changing. I think years of psychological stability enabled me to look back inside without fear of falling into depression again.

My writing has never been better.

>> No.20280355

>>20277011
the right amount assists focus, or numbs resistance to it