/lit/ - Literature

>>20273234
*What are

Sometimes I wish 4chin had an edit function

12 Rules for Life
12 More Rules for Life
The Bible

unironically

>>20273258
based peterstein enjoyer

>>20273234
Ulysses
Phenomenology of Spirit
Capital vol. 1-3

Just read summaries, you just want these on your list for social capital and posturing to impress art hoes

>>20273234
Bhagavad Gita
The Bible
Havamal

The Gospel of John
Man’s Search for Meaning
The Cancer Ward

>>20273234
-Plato Complete Works
-Some Poetry Collection in your native language
-Some Work Out Treatise Idk

>>20273234
Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Beyond Good and Evil
The Twilight of the Idols

Starting Strength
The Richest Man in Babylon
How to Win Friends and Influence People

You gotta start with the basics.

>>20273394
>Starting Strength
Is this really a good book or a meme?

>>20273234
Zero to One by Peter Thiel. It is marketed as business book but it is more of a philosophy book. Particularly, it is a philosophy of what it takes to create things that do not yet exist but must exist in the future.

The Origins of Virtue by Matt Ridley. It is a counterbalance to The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. Meaning, those who ironically follow The Prince through devious means will eventually btfo by those who are in it to bake a bigger pie. In other word, the book reveals to an individual, through game-theoretic lenses, on the importance of maintaining trust and eliminating un-trust.

On The Shortness of Life by Seneca. "It is not that we have a short time to live, but that we waste a lot of it. Life is long enough, and a sufficiently generous amount has been given to us for the highest achievements if it were all well invested. But when it is wasted in heedless luxury and spent on no good activity, we are forced at last by death’s final constraint to realize that it has passed away before we knew it was passing. So it is: we are not given a short life but we make it short, and we are not ill-supplied but wasteful of it… Life is long if you know how to use it.” Remember deeply—embed it into your bones if you must—that humanity went from the discovery of a car, airplane, computer, the splitting of the atom, and the landing of the moon in one single lifetime.

>>20273401
It's good for beginners who don't already know how to do the compound lifts or why they should do compound lifts. /fit/'s problem with SS is that "beginner" when doing the SS program only lasts like 2-4 months, so they keep trying to do SS progression and force it by overeating and getting fat, which works to a point but then you're like 50lbs overweight. Rippetoe has another book called Practical Programming that helps you work through the intermediate stage of lifting which lasts several years but it's not nearly as widely known as SS.

I made those recommendations because I figured most people have problems with fitness/health, relationships, and money. Like those are the big three. So I'm pretty comfortable blanket recommending them to anyone when asked. SS doesn't cover everything about fitness/health, for instance it doesn't really talk about cardio or diet or nutrition, but almost nobody has an adequate amount of lean muscle mass these days so it's probably a better start than a book on nutrition.

>>20273258
You need to be over 18 to go on 4chan

>>20273401
meme. You don't need to read books to get jacked.

>>20273439
What's wrong with those recs?

>>20273588
The recs are just an ironic shitpost, don't worry about it.

>>20273401
It's very heavy on the lower body exercises. You don't really need a book for this kinda thing, just a simple program with compounds desu.

Ecclesiastes
Matthew
Imitation of Christ

>>20273659
The book teaches you to do the compounds, how they work, and why you should do them. Yeah, if you have a mentor who can show you the lifts and how to do them and is a good example of why to do them, that's great. But most people who "get into lifting" wind up curling, using machines, and never training legs, and they make no significant gains despite months of effort.

>>20273418
>or diet or nutrition, but almost nobody has an adequate amount of lean muscle mass these days
Let's say I'm a really skinny, ectomorph guy. Is it still a good rec?
(I'm afraid of getting fat)

>>20274356
Yes, of course. /fit/ can help you with a lean bulk strategy but basically aim for 1lb of bodyweight gain per week while bulking and if you panic, do a cut.

>>20273372
>Man’s Search for Meaning
Please stop suggesting this crap.

>>20273234
Plutarch's Lives
Montaigne's Essays
Emerson's Essays

>>20274610
>Montaigne's Essays
>Emerson's Essays
what are they about?

>>20273234
Thus Spoke Zarathustra

>>20273234
How to Win Friends and Influence People
The Intelligent Investor
Salt Fat Heat and Acid

>>20274619
Montaigne's essays are about himself. He wrote down whatever thoughts to came to mind, and his thoughts often revolved around philosophy and how we should live. He famously said that to philosophize is to learn how to live and die. For example, in one essay, he talks about his near death experience and what he learned from it about how we should approach thinking about death. In another, he weighs the pros and cons of committing suicide. His main inspirations were the Stoics, Epicureans, and Sceptics. He drew a lot from them, combining them together and making them superior.
Emerson's essays are about the major themes of American transcendentalism: nature, self reliance, and spirituality. His optimism and affirmation of life is very contagious and makes for a very comfy and uplifting read.

>>20274645
Those sound very interesting. THanks anon

>>20274619
Anything and everything that interested them

Broadly Montaigne was a guy who read a lot of ancient Greek scepticism/epicureanism/stoicism which were just then becoming available to Europeans again thanks to the Renaissance. He is known for wide ranging comfy free thinking essays that inspired a lot of subsequent early modern thinkers

Emerson's essays are also unique, supposedly they were the one book Nietzsche would save from a fire and he kept a copy on him at all times or something like that. Emerson was deeply inspired by the Platonist strain in German idealism and the revival of Platonism in the Anglosphere. Many people read the Transcendentalists as straight up Platonists; his friend Alcott was in direct contact with Bohmean Theosophists in Germany, trying for a time to import their thought to America.

Emerson's essays are also wide ranging and comfy but they have a kind of mystical feel to them, you almost feel like Emerson was writing in a meditative trance state. Tried to google something about his connection to Carlyle just now and found this page that gives a decent feel for both Carlyle and Transcendentalism.
https://transcendentalism.tamu.edu/ralph-waldo-emerson-emerson-and-thomas-carlyle

>>20273234
How to Read a Book
The Culture of Narcissism
Tao Te Ching

>>20273234
My diary
My diary (#2)
The Bible

I dare say almost no work of art will improve anyones live.

At most they are useful for stimulation, but hardly anything will be applied to daily life.

>>20275287
Books can definitely be applied to real life. I do believe life should be lived though

>>20273391
>Improve

Those are depression 101's

>>20275137
Kek you have two diaries? Or should we read your diary twice?

>>20273234
On Suffering by Arthur Schopenhauer
On Suicide by Arthur Schopenhauer
How To Tie A Noose by wikihow.com

>>20273234
Euthyphro, Plato.
Serotonin, Houellebeqc.
Introduction to Jungian Psychology, Jacobi.

>>20273258
Not entirely wrong, but you're clearly underage

>>20275736
"What can be our doctrine alone?—That nobody *gives* human beings their qualities, neither God, nor society, nor their parents and ancestors, nor *they themselves* (the nonsense of this last notion we are rejecting was taught by Kant as “intelligible freedom,” and maybe was already taught by Plato as well). *Nobody* is responsible for being here in the first place, for being constituted in such and such a way, for being in these circumstances, in this environment. The fatality of our essence cannot be separated from the fatality of all that was and will be. We are *not* the consequence of a special intention, a will, a goal; we are not being used in an attempt to reach an “ideal of humanity,” or an “ideal of happiness,” or an “ideal of morality”—it is absurd to want to *divert* our essence towards some goal. *We* have invented the concept “goal”: in reality, goals are *absent* ... One is necessary, one is a piece of destiny, one belongs to the whole, one *is* in the whole.—There is nothing that could rule, measure, compare, judge our being, for that would mean ruling, measuring, comparing, and judging the whole ... *But there is nothing outside the whole!*— That nobody is made responsible anymore, that no way of being may be traced back to a causa prima [first cause], that the world is not a unity either as sensorium or as “spirit,” *only this is the great liberation*—in this way only, the *innocence* of becoming is restored . . . The concept “God” was up to now the greatest objection against existence ... We deny God, and in denying God we deny responsibility: only thus do we redeem the world."

>>20273234
None. Just look at the catalog; people here read a lot and they are miserable. Books cannot help you.

bump

Art of the deal
How to win friends and influence people.
bronze age mindset

Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle

>>20273303
BASED BEYOND BELIEF

>>20273234
I'd like to think that a lot of people would have a sublime, or at least a cathartic response to Hamlet, and even after many reads, still be inspired by what the play has to offer hermeneutically on an individual level, but all this is unlikely for "the majority of people's lives".

For the state of the world at the moment they should first listen to the tapes/recordings of Self Under Siege by Rick Roderick, then read Subjectivity by Donald E. Hall, then read Beloved by Toni Morrison.

>>20273234
Capital volumes 1-3

Though it gets a bit grim at the end.

Bible
Shakespeare
Metamorphoses

>>20273234
Tao te Ching
Bible
Art of the deal

>>20273303
Pseud reading list.

>>20273234
Nicomachean Ethics
Republic
Leviathan (Books I + II)

>>20273234
Le Bossu
Hashire Melos/Die Bürgschaft
Conrad's The Duel

>>20273303
I'll do you one better. Don't ever read whole books, just go on Wikiquote, memorize a few quotes and then drop them with the girls.

Their panties will also drop.

You only need to read In search of lost time

Nietzsche
The famous Buddhist/Hindu texts
The Tao Te Ching

Bonus: Henry Miller

>>20273234
1. the bilble
2. moby dick
2. kanye west

>>20273411
First good post
>>20273258
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>>20274644
Bad posts.
>>20275137
Not funny
>>20275824
Funnier

>>20273234
The Ultimate Home Property Maintenance Manuel (how to cheaply maintain property)
Buy Rehab Rent Refinance (how to become a landlord)
The Ultimate Guide to Frugal Living

Basically just become a handiman and then rent out town houses and repair and remodel them yourself to snowball equity. Then you can think about the real cash cow: wedding mills. I'm talking taking net $300,000 a week on a property that you just dress up and make deals with local vendors to supply.

>>20279830
Of COURSE a thiel cuck mass replies.

>>20273234
Les Miserables
Les Miserables
Les Miserables

>>20273258
In a petersonian sense, that's based and redpilled

>>20273234
Tao de Ching
Quran
metaphysics by Aristotle

>>20273244
Ask elon musk to buy 4chin

>>20273258
/pol/tard

>>20273258
Based

>>20273234
Plato Complete Works

The Works of Aristotle

Old Testament Bible

>>20273258
I don’t care for Judenstein but I can admit the average young man would unironically drastically improve his life if he followed some of Peterson’s advice. That that makes trannies seethe so hard makes him OK in my book.

>>20280126
Actually I didn't agree with his post at all, he was just the only person to write more than the title of the fucking book like a catchphrase spouting NPC.
That means it's still infinitely better than whatever shitty book titles made your post.
Next time put some thought into answering your question.

Das kapital
Critique of pure reason
The world as will and representation

>>20280944
>I don’t care for Judenstein but I can admit the average young man would unironically drastically improve his life if he followed some of Peterson’s advice.
Name three (3) ways in which this would happen.

>>20281169
No. I’ve stopped playing bad faith word games with trannies. Why don’t you go clean your room, bro?

>>20273234
>Nazi Propaganda by Joseph Goebbels 1933–1945
>On the Jews and Their Lies
>The Culture of Critique

>>20281169
Not him but Peterson is fine. There are plenty of single mom raised losers that need him, go look at r9k. Somebody has to tell hopeless losers to stop pissing in bottles and work to change your life. Hygiene, dicipline, goals, work, responsibility, none of these are bad things. Plus he has taken up the societal role that Joeseph Campbell used to fill. Him on Rogan is the nearest modern analogue to The Power of Myth with Bill Myers. Somebody has to deliver the insights of mythology to our vapid decayed godless materialist society. Grown fucking men are worshiping marvel movies. Most people haven't even hunted big game and eaten it. People in suburbs and cities are deeply unleathy pill heads completely detached with anything atavistic.

>>20281246
you are a fag

>>20281389
Post pictures of your room, your body, your bank account and your girlfriend each with a time stamp.

>>20281389
So this is the power of bughive education.

Meditations (Aurelius)
Shobogenzo (Dogen)
The Wisdom Books: Job, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes: A Translation with Commentary (Alter)
>>20274610
seconding Montaigne and Emerson, haven't read Plutarch yet but if you paired him with them then I'll definitely give a read
>>20280825
>Old Testament Bible
now this is based, so many pleb larpers on here get filtered by the OT

>>20281246
Holy shit this is what you get when you learn from some dumb fucking podcast rather than from books.

>>20281819
I read 3 of joseph campbells books before 2016 anon. Let me guess you NEED your pills, pillhead?

Nothing makes me think that a persons recommendations are likely to improve my life more than when I see them figuratively throwing shit and screaming at each other on an imageboard.

>>20281437
When you think you need 12 rules for life but actually just need a 13th reason why

>>20273234
mein kampf
bible
on the jews and their lies

>>20273258
You forgot 12 More More Rules of Life.

>>20279830
How is the Havamal a bad post?

>>20274594
Did you actually read it or are you making assumptions (((because)))

>>20273234
Hegel Science of Logic
Hegel Encyclopedia of Philosophical Sciences
Hegel Phenomenology of the Spirit

If you have time for one more book(s), read Spinoza. Every philosopher should start with Spinoza. People who've had the opportunity to read Spinoza (go on Hajj) but didn't, should be stoned. Not reading Aristotle is also a crime. Fichte is optional, but highly encouraged. While you're at it, reading Schelling Can-not do you wrong.

>>20282157
three (3) movies to watch.
nuremberg trials
bosnian genocide phone recordings
ukraine war twitter webms

>>20274845
Actually pretty good all those have helped me out

Boethius consolation of philosophy

Ultra mind solution: For fixing your broken body and brain in order to do anything else. All around amazing book for fixing your quality of life and mental health.


Atomic Habits: A good general book for showing you practical ways of replacing negative behaviors with positive ones. It also is supremely comfy and positive.

The Dhammapada: This last one is cheating as you will probably need to read a introduction to Buddhist ideas first. Even if you have no interest in Buddhism as a religion just listening to and absorbing the Buddha’s teaching about suffering and the over coming of suffering have hugely benefited me.


Also pic related are good too.

>>20284334
Wrong pic sorry

>>20284313

Kolyma Tales

>>20279228
How so?
t. Haven't read it yet

>>20273234
>the majority
I don't care for wagie normies

>>20273258
Bible isn't literature

>>20273234
not many books give lasting happiness,
even the best "improve" books out there, the best they can do is say "hopefully you can make your bug cage nicer",

so I would reccomend 3 books that make you laugh or get hard, whichever

>>20273258
I like you

Bump

>>20273234
Job
Mark
Ecclesiastes

>>20273445
>>20273394
post body coward

Dopamine nation, lembke
Shame, burgo
The healthiest diet on the planet, mcdougall

I genuinely believe that if someone reads and understands those, their life will dramatically improve.

>>20273234
The Iliadyssey
Nichomachean Ethics
The Republic

>>20283714
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/authoritarian-therapy/201604/the-case-against-viktor-frankl

>>20279507
>I'll do you one better.
Do me two better.

>>20280784
4chan aint worth shit. You could probably buy it if you wanted.

bump

Bump

>>20279423
Why the Leviathan? It's mostly just "govern me harder daddy" and seething over Aquinas.

>>20281454
I would kill all my countrymen for a house in an American suburb. I hate america and americans but what's theirs is theirs. No other country in the world can compete with American suburbs. I would rather be cattle alone and comfy in my own house than in the Soviet cuckcage I live in now. Not a day goes by where I don't think about poisoning my downstairs neighbor.

>>20273234
Nicocadean Ethics
Bible
Moby-Dick

>>20287497
these all sound pretty cringe m8t

Is the Bhagavad Gita worth reading?

>>20284369
More ignatius memes pls.

>>20291712
Yes. Always gets chills and psyched up when Krishna does his “I am all powerful time who destroys all things and I have come to slay these men. Even if thou dost not fight, all warriors facing thee shall die. Arise therefore! Win thy glory, conquer thy enemies and enjoy thy kingdom” speech

>>20291256
Yeah they do. But you can‘t be picky when you‘re at the bottom and need a helping hand just to get back on your feet.

>>20273234
- Propaganda: The formation of men's attitudes by Jacques Ellul
- 2 other books.

>>20283695
I have no idea what the book is about. And after reading that post I feel no need to change that: therefore it's a bad post.
This should have been obvious from the fact that the only "good post" was a effort post.

>>20291739
Does Krishna mean this literally? Or an allegory of one’s true self? As in, one doesn’t need to “fight” or “kill” in battle, but rather act justly no matter the outcome because our bodies are finite regardless.

>>20291939
That’s for you to decide for yourself. Some see it literally, some see it as an allegory for conquering yourself, etc. you should read it, it’s like 80 pages

>>20291951
I will! Thank you.

>>20288038
>. in this therapeutic encounter there are three interchanges between the patient and Frankl. Frankl begins each one of them with a clear and unmistakable ‘Don’t.…. Such categorical instruction illustrates the authoritarian character of logotherapy…..
What an insane objection

>>20291966
Also check out the Dhammapada. It doesn’t seem to get as much recognition as BG or Upanishads, but IMO, it is one of the best guidelines to serenity and inner peace. Buddhist literature always puts me in a better mood even if I’m not a Buddhist. The Dhammapada is even shorter than BG

>>20291984
Thanks for the rec. cheers anon

>>20291041
Lol we have way better. You can buy 75 acres of woods and pasture in kansas for around $150,000.

>>20273234
The Bible (KJV)
That Hideous Strength
Surprised by Joy
>In that order, then KJV again with new eyes

>>20273258
>12 Rules for Life
Jordan Peterson's a leftoid retard. Holy shit anon