/lit/ - Literature

>>20293684
Tove Jansson

David Pearce. He thinks it's possible that advanced biotechnology might make it possible to abolish suffering entirely. Since happiness and suffering are ultimately the result of chemical reactions in your brain, it's theoretically possible to reverse engineer the brain or use genetic engineering such that suffering is impossible, and people exist in a state of perpetual bliss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3c6cesOG4M
https://www.hedweb.com/

>>20293684
>I asked myself: What is this that, ever since earliest years, thou hast been fretting and fuming, and lamenting and self-tormenting, on account of? Say it in a word: is it not because thou art not HAPPY? Because the Thou (sweet gentleman) is not sufficiently honoured, nourished, soft-bedded, and lovingly cared for? Foolish soul! What Act of Legislature was there that thou shouldst be Happy? A little while ago thou hadst no right to be at all. What if thou wert born and predestined not to be Happy, but to be Unhappy! Art thou nothing other than a Vulture, then, that fliest through the Universe seeking after somewhat to eat; and shrieking dolefully because carrion enough is not given thee? Close thy Byron; open thy Goethe.

Same but i can‘t find anything. I guess that‘s because people who aren‘t depressed don‘t write (or read, since reading is either in search of the solution or escapism, both signs of someone suffering) books because they are not searching for any insight anymore. If you‘re not in pain, you are not searching for a pain killer i guess.

At most maybe poetry that seems mundane. Like describing a spring day without it having any deeper meaning than that. If you‘re truly happy you can just rejoice in the beauty around you without infusing it with some darker after thought.
Some nursery rhymes fall into this category although the only ones i can think of that would fit this category are in swiss german. There‘s a lot of depressing and questionable nursery rhymes but still probably the biggest accumulation of non-depressing writing.
I‘ll try to translate a verse of one i‘m thinking about as an example.

In the forest, the beautiful green forest,
There‘s a little place i love,
I‘m lying here in the soft moss,
marveling and just taking it in.

I guess putting one‘s gratitude and awe at the beauty around into words just for the sake of it just seems unimportant and corny to the depressed.

>>20293684
Retards.

>>20293684
very mildly heterodox GDP-worshipping neoliberals like Tyler Cowen and Cass Sunstein

Idk maybe something like Steven Pinker

>>20293701
Fpbp

>>20294341
lol

>>20294341
Good to know people this demonic are not just a figment of my imagination.

>>20293684
Nietzsche. The pessimist premises are correct -- you cannot escape pessimism by lying to yourself about the actual state of the world -- but it doesn't mean you ought to hate life.

there are philosophical optimists, but they have repeatedly been dunked on through out history by pessmists who are smarter

pic related

>>20293684
Other much fucked up pessimist writers.
Source : Gay Science 48

>>20294551
>pic related
Mozart?

>>20293684
>Who are the opposite of the Pessimist writers?
Mainlander except he wears a giant sombrero and a feather boa. I bet that guy would write some funny shit.

>>20294505
How is he demonic? Do you want to suffer?

>>20294409
just found out who Cass Sunstein was recently from some anarchist friend of mine
>>20294406
oh come on
>>20294643
nah that's Voltaire but if I want optimism I don't go for him at all

though to answer the question, the Neoplatonists do it for me

>>20294406
Neither pessimists nor optimists are realists. They are too clouded to have integrity. But pessimists are far worse because they think the state of their neurotic minds is definitive and the end game of life and intellectual inquiry. Optimists are at least motivated to seek and change.

>>20294841
voltaire isnt an optimist you dumb ass, candied is a satire making fun of optimism

>>20294868
Voltaire is a dumbass too so I guess that makes two of us, or rather three, take your pick

>>20294841
>nah that's Voltaire
Looks like Mozart to me.

>>20294341
This guy read Brave New World and thought it sounded like a great time huh

>>20294341
This fills me with even more dread than the pessimists OP is talking about

>>20293684
Six Days in the Life of David Vallejo. I know that's kind of a meme answer around here but the book is genuinely uplifting. The book is all about how a guy can derive immense enjoyment just from doing dumb shit with his friends.

>>20293684
Jack London
Mark Twain

Charles Dickens

>>20297100
>wanting to give up creating a utopia just to avoid a bit of short term disgust

>>20298413
>utopia
>short term disgust
You're joking, right?

>>20293684
There is a difference between talking about your problems with other people and being a flat therapy tranny who just copes. You can complain, you should complain, if you can’t stand that and think you’re being dragged down, you’re the problem. No wonder you go with all your problems to fucking therapy. People talk about not finding love, not realising their dreams, not being content with living all the time. You equate those active problems those people pursue on the daily, try and fail and stand up again just to fail again, to find solace in sharing in each other’s struggle, with your own depressed mindset where every complaint is nothing but your own depressed faulty wiring that keeps coming up with issues to feel sad about, is a non issue really, is not a struggle, no one struggles, no one could struggle like you, and if they struggle they struggle in their own way which is alien, no, utterly non-real to you, cannot feel real anymore, that no one can do anything, everyone ought to go to therapy to get help, that the highest good is contentment and nothing else.

I hate depressed people, I hate them going to therapy, I hate their golden suicide belts around their wrists, arms and neck, I hate the keeper of the golden keys, I hate that I can see it all peel away and that in the end these people were not helped.