/lit/ - Literature

>>20367202
What will you do now? Become a writer?

>>20367202
>most importantly money
If you don't have a fully funded phd, you're being scammed

>>20367202
>is a professor for 11 years
>hasn’t yet completed his phd
*doubt*

>>20367313
Maybe he took up an assistant position as a senior, I did that.

My professor took six years for his Ph.D in Physics and that's long as fuck, the fuck was taking you so long?

>>20367202
>Ph. D in Literature
No idea why anyone (without a personality disorder) who experienced today's English academy as an undergraduate would do this to themselves.

>>20367202
have you seen The Professor with Johnny Depp? it's carthartic for someone in your situation.

>>20367202
tell some stories of the stupidest shit you've seen

>>20367313
The title of professor is given out more freely in the US
In the US it's essentially anyone who teaches in university

I dropped out of college this year. I had a 4.0 GPA but i was too depressed. When China inevitably invades Taiwan I'm going to go to Taiwan and become a mercenary like Xenophon.

>>20367202
Tell us more then

>>20367587
Not really. The title professor is for phds. Just because you teach at a community college and the students call you professor does not mean you are a professor. If you say you were a professor of English lit on a job application it will probably kill your chances of getting the job unless it is something like bar tender at red lobster.

>>20367264
This. You're (((technically))) pushing the frontiers of knowledge in your specific field - you should be being paid to do this. If you're the one paying to advance a field you've literally lost the game kek.

>>20367202
>wasting your time and most importantly money
Your mistake was not going to where it's significantly cheaper to do. PhDs in France and Germany, at public universities, are at most €600/year (basically $600) and that's even for foreigners. For the latter this applies to bachelors and masters as well.

>wasting your time
I feel the reason you study to then eventually teach at an academic institution is so that you're making your passion your living meanwhile also having some status and respect. Yes, some of your time will be chores but most of it not, then a lot of will be things perhaps you're not as interested in teaching but it's still related to your interests. If you work a 40hr/week job in IT, for instance, you are not developing any of your skills as a writer.

>>20367592
Chud fascist piece of shit

>>20367664
>If you work a 40hr/week job in IT, for instance, you are not developing any of your skills as a writer.
do my artisan emails and code comments mean nothing to you?

>>20367664
They're cheap because they're not respected. Those discount fees reflect the calibre of research coming from those institutions and the mediocrity of the faculty. USA and UK is where it's at for any self respecting academic.

>>20367264
>>20367631
why do you assume that when OP says being a professor and getting a PhD is a waste of money he means he wasted his own money on the PhD program itself?

>>20367718
Because OP said this:
>...you're wasting your time and most importantly money...

I'm sorry the education system failed you.

>>20367723
you lack any actual knowledge about the field so you jump to the most obvious, but implausible, interpretation so you can post a cute little gotcha to make yourself feel smart

>>20367716
Well then you study there then move back or you stay contented with your university not being the highest possible on some gay list. They're perfectly good enough.

>>20367733
>I've been got so now I'll seethe and cope.

>>20367735
>They're perfectly good enough.
Eurofag cope right there. They're good enough if you don't give a shit about your field and just need the paycheck.

>>20367740
>Eurofag cope right there. They're good enough if you don't give a shit about your field and just need the paycheck.
What a vulgar, coarse way of thinking.
It depends what you're going into it for. If you just want to live your passion more closely, as I stated in my post, then it's perfectly good enough. And for things like humanities really the collective is not relevant, only on the individual level is anything good produced in the first place. Yes the intricacies of good prose might be valued a little more elsewhere but what matters is the creative work itself which is a separate thing. Also one can genuinely argue the validity of how these lists are produced.

>>20367757
You didn't need 'coarse' if you already used 'vulgar' to describe my reply, retard. I didn't read the rest of what you had to say, because I know it's just going to be more cope. Eurofag faculties blow, simple as that. They're only good for a decent pension.

>>20367777
pretty sure the world would be better without you, die in a hole

>>20367202

Don Snyder, The Cliff Walk

>>20367592
Why wait? Go to Ukraine and become a mercenary now.

>>20367626
>The title professor is for phds.
The title of "doctor" is for PHD and above, and a lot of professors with a doctorate will get pissy if you only refer to them as "professor" for this reason. It's used generically in US college for anyone teaching courses and usually replaces "teacher" or "Mr./Mrs." past high school.

>>20367716
>respected
>calibre of research
You know that this thread is about the humanities, right?

>>20367824
all that's required to teach credit courses in accredited institutions is a masters. you can most definitely be a professor with only a masters, but you won't get paid as much. in the case of community colleges there are a lot of non-credit developmental classes for chuds who smoked weed through high school and need to relearn basic reading and math. those classes can be taught by anyone with a bachelors. the fact that people on /lit/ are this confused about the education industry is somewhat disturbing.

>>20367740
European institutions are miles better than the complete joke that is (((anglosphere))) academia

Redpill here
>Anglosphere academia: like a joke
>Yuro academia: like a joke
>Chinkosphere academia: like a joke
>Jap academia: like an unfunny joke
>Third/second world academia: like a lot of jokes

>everything beyond the academia: is the joke

>>20367858
pure poetry

>>20367846
There's medicine to curb your delusions, you know.

>>20367777
"Vulgar" means common, uncultivated, which is different from what "coarse" means. Conclusion? You're still retarded.

>>20367845
Most of the people I know IRL who browse 4chan are people with little more than an Associate's and maybe some random 6-month certs acquired at a Community College, who also possess an obnoxious disdain of ever taking university courses ever. So I wouldn't think much of their knowledge regarding the shitshow that is higher education.

>>20367872
>Coarse, 2.(of a person or their speech) rude or vulgar.
Nice cope.

>>20367878
> knows people IRL who browse 4chan

>>20367740
German Classics departments are some of the best in the world only behind Oxbridge.

>>20367587
No it isn't, at least for my field. Full professor implies that you have tenure

Has OP even replied once to his own thread?

>>20367841
Sauce. NOW

>>20367202
Story time

>>20368114
Enjoy, friend.
https://exhentai.org/g/1696467/0eaed2bf24/

>>20367664
>If you work a 40hr/week job in IT, for instance, you are not developing any of your skills as a writer.
Not only that, staring 40 hours a week at a computer screen feels fundamentally diametral to the creation of art. It's simply not the right life for an artist. You're better of hallucinating as Vincent van Gogh on some French countryside due to calcium deficiency.

>>20367664
>Paying for your PhD programme

>>20367202
haha just couldn't cut it