/lit/ - Literature

Protip; kill yourself now. We'll all be happier, and it's only a matter of time before Hipsters start doing it anyway. You'll be able to say you did it before it was cool.

Listen to something by NMH = your life instantly changed

>>2117137
How would you be able 2 say that when your dead

>>2117134
suck a lot of cock

Go back in time (1950s) get into the jazz scene, poetry reading stuff.
Oh and maintain that middle class lifestyle.

Hipsterism is a middle class lifestyle. It's probably the most middle class lifestyle. Bourgeois pigs.

>>2117142
I would fuck that WomanwithWineGlass...

>>2117141
You're spelling is 2 bad

Protip OP and people of /lit/
"Hipster" isn't anything but a branding term. There isn't any such thing.

>>2117146
you obviously don't live in Portland...

wear a scarf op
never look directly at anyone
read the myth of sysiphus
then you'll get it

>>2117148
You are IDing what there? Glasses? Stubbled half-week beards? Bike riders, that's it, right?

>>2117159
That and the fact that nothing in Portland is cool unless no one has heard of it.

>>2117159
What about if I have enough money to buy both drugs and a new pair of shoes?

What then, impoverished smelly poorly dress women?

first, go to >>>/fa/, learn how to dress
then, go to /mu/, find some Parisian jazz from the '20s and '30s
After that, go watch every Jean-Luc Godard movie. These are now your favorite movies and anyone who doesn't like them is a plebe and a retard.
Get a tumblr and twitter, but delete your facebook.
Go to your local arthouse, and hunger strike until they show Herzog movies there.

Spend a month under the tutelage of /mu/.

And yes, hipsterism is the ultimate expression of modern middle-classness.

>>2117159
riding a fixie with jeans that stop half way off their shin is hipster yes.

way-farers (especially those with multicolored legs) are either hipster or an attempt at emulating hipster look

just riding bikes or wearing glasses is not enough. hipster is a thing, it is just commonly misused or misconstrued.

>>2117164
Hipsters have pretty fucking great taste if they watch Godard, Herzog, listen to Parisian jazz, and dress like old men.

>>2117164
^See?

Branding term. No different than "emo"
When "hipster" dies out, there'll be another hated group that doesn't really exist.

>>2117168
Herzog is great
Godard is pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

>“Someone like Jean-Luc Godard is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good kung fu film.”
-Werner Herzog

“I’ve never gotten anything out of his movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the critics. "
-Ingmar Bergman

>>2117176
>Bergman calling Godard a fucking bore.

Pot meet kettle....

>>2117176
The best review I ever read of a film was on Netflix. I don't remember the movie, because I didn't see it, but I remembered the review, word for word:

"Achingly slow-moving twaddle. When I saw Godard's name I should have been alerted. Skip this gobbler."

While the thread is still derailed, is Tarkovsky too Christian to be hipster?

>>2117176
I always preferred grand'mère Varda

>>2117181
No, but he is pretty "mainstream" in terms of cinephiles, and his films are relatively accessible to the public. You'd be better off choosing Mikhail Kalatozov for Soviet filmmakers.

Move into one of these.

>>2117186
>[Tarkovsky] is pretty "mainstream" in terms of cinephiles,
>...his films are relatively accessible to the public.

Wha- No.

>>2117185
>supporting feminist directors
where do you think we are.jpg

>>2117190
I moved into Tarkovsky pretty smoothly. To give you an idea, my "film evolution" went like this:
Paul Thomas Anderson -> Tarkovsky -> Bunuel

I went straight from English movies with linear plots and such to Tarkovsky, no big deal. I think the main reason people don't watch his movies is that they've never heard of him, hence
>mainstream in terms of ___cinephiles____
, rather than the fact that his movies may be "2deep4" them.

>>2117191
I think you need to reword that. She never made an overtly feminist film. They're just good films. I don't care where I am.

>>2117195

Go into /lit/ lurk around writing down book recommendations. Wikipedia search the books, get the "jist" of the book, and in public, act like a well-read book snob who has NO FUCKING SUBSTANCE AND ONLY WANTS TO IMPRESS OTHERS.
Also, act all proletarian and shit, but then call the cops on someone cause they stole yr ipod or broke into your car BECAUSE YOUR A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SNITCH!
That's how to be a hipster.

Godard really is one of the greatest filmmakers ever.

>>2117203
If you like him it's fine, everybody's entitled to their opinions. I'm more on the J.K. Rowling of classic cinema side of the debate but I won't ram it down your throat.
People's opinions of Godard are almost always formed from their very first encounter with his work

>>2117212
wtf You could at least be nice and compare him to Ginsberg or something

@ OP: Hipster is middle class lifestyle.

And good god, it's annoying.

>>2117212
Not necessarily, I hated Godard after watching Alphaville for the first time. After about six months, I saw Bande à Part, which was decent.
Couple of weeks later I checked out À bout de souffle and Pierrot le fou, and only now I was convinced he was a genius.
Oh, and I also checked Alphaville out again last week, it was great.

>>2117176
Miles Davis hated Ornette Coleman's trumpet playing, does that mean Coleman is bad? Nope, it means Davis had different thoughts about jazz.

Tolstoy hated Shakespeare

>>2117212
Not necessarily, I hated Godard after watching Alphaville for the first time. After about six months, I saw Bande à Part, which was decent.
Couple of weeks later I checked out À bout de souffle and Pierrot le fou, and only now I was convinced he was a genius.
Oh, and I also checked Alphaville out again last week, it was great.

>>2117176
Miles Davis hated Ornette Coleman's trumpet playing, does that mean Coleman is bad? Nope, it means Davis had different thoughts about jazz.
So how about forming your own opinions on art?

>>2117245
Tolstoy hated anyone who wasn't Tolstoy.

>>2117146

this.

hipsters are just people interested in things. no two are alike.

it's the catch-all artsy parse of the current culture/counterculture/subculture dialiectic, and nobody self-identifies as one, except as a joke.

based on the comments i'm reading, everyone in this thread is a hipster by the standards of the people in the tiny town i grew up in, including me.

>>2117282

oh, forgot my trip. how unhipster of me.

>>2117282
Hmm.

I've seen hipsters. The city I used to live in, this guy would wear a top hat while riding on his bicycle around town. I'm not even making that up.

To me, a "hipster" is someone who goes out of their way to SHOW the world that they're unique. Like, someone who tries way to hard and makes way too much of an ostentatious show of their likes.

You can disagree with me, but I swear to God hipsters exist, and I've seen them.

I wish this hipster meme would die down. Look at yourselves. You're a bunch of apes copying each other, repeating words and phrases you hear from other people. All with your regurgitated opinions on what a hipster is. Why are you all so egotistical? Your opinion means nothing. Fools.

>>2117288
hipster

>>2117287

i think the problem is that i lived and worked in long beach and echo park for years, where everybody did shit like that. plus my wife lives in seattle, and i have friends in portland, brooklyn, and san francisco. this shit just registers as normal to me, just like baggy jean shorts and trucker caps register as normal in the inland empire. it's a cultural landscape.

but hey, i'm a bit of a ham. i try to stand out via accomplishments these days, but i don't object to people who like to look ostentatious. my ex was a comic writer and she basically dressed like a superhero every day.

do what you want, people. just be real about it. really want it. have passions, and let that guide your image, not the other way around.

>>2117247
pierrot le fou was as blank as a fart. what Bergman said is true

>>2117247


>does that mean Coleman is bad?

Not necessarily, but since Coleman is objectively bad, and Davis' opinion seems to be correct, then it defiinitely gives him credibility in any similar debate in the future.

>>2117134
>Move to a working class area and make friends with arty types who say they are also working class.

>>2117271
>>2117245

Tolstoy only hated Shakespeare because he'd become mainstream, and Tolstoy had been into his plays long before they became cool.

>>2117319

actually he hated shakespeare because of his christfag moralfaggotry

Mind=blown.

I've just discovered that Ingmar Bergman's not related to Ingrid.

I always assumed they were like siblings or whatevs.

Fucking Bergman man, death playing chess. Miserable bastard. You know what I like? Transformers and Iron Man - you know where you are with them. You know you're not going to get a numb arse watching some cunt blunder along a beach for seven and a half hours.

Werner Herzog - he's pukka, but Bergman? Fuck off. All you need to know about Bergman is that he's Woody Allen's favourite fucking director. I rest my case. Woody fucking Allen, I ask you.

pic not strictly speaking necessary, but she is rather beautiful.

Good literary discussion this, by the way.

>>2117134

1.) Get a bunch of classic literature and put it on your coffee table. If anyone asks you about the books, only regurgitate the cliff notes analysis of the works, as if they are your own opinion.

2.) Secure a trust fund. This will come in handy, later.

3.) Get craftsy. It doesnt matter if you dont have any actual interest in the Arts. Grab some Elmers glue, some broken broken bottles on the curb and some industrial paint and fashion some keychains.

4.) Sell these keychains for 70$ (or your countries equivalent thereof) on an Etsy storefront. Make sure to include a mission statement about helping Our Mother Earth by "recycling". Use the proceeds to buy Pabst Blue Ribbon.


5.) Go into town and by some new clothing. All of your old clothes are too mainstream. Find the most dusty, over-crowded vintage store on the street and buy up all of its wares. Ideally, you want to be at least 30 years behind whatever's popular now. Bring your gold credit card. Old gym shorts are expensive.

6.) Find a local band, preferably a bad one. Make sure they are "underground". If you dont know what this means, you are destined to be uncool forever. When you attend their shows, record their music. Lament loudly and publicly that no one supports these artists. Afterward, make mp3s of the recordings at the lowest bitrate possible. Distribute them online.

I'd say 80% of hipsters are middle, 20% are working. So OP isn't exactly stopping being middle-class. He's doing a good job of being a neckbeard, though.

Why would you want to become a hipster anyways?

>>2117329
Mad pussy.

>>2117330

Well most of these hipstar chicks are actually damn stupid. If you want a stupid demanding bitch, there you go...

You can chicks even if you are not a pretentious idiot. But they are probably still dumb

>>2117324

I like Woody Allen

>>2117325
>>2117164
>>2117158

these are so wonderfully clever guys thanks for being original and not reposting the same stale ass jokes people haev made about hipstr since ca. 2006

>>2117330
Go to more shows. Nothing to mainstream indie though. Shit like death cab, vampire weekend, foster, or anything too obvious would right on a faux hipster chick's radar. You want authentic chicks so look into stuff you wouldn't suspect could be so easily commercialized. AnCo is not it though.

just like things that you like and find out about them and be chill about it but listen to music that is good that you rly like and read books that you rly like and think about it and don't be a bitch

seriously, just be honest and sincere and as enthusiastic about liking the things you like as you can, and don't be afraid to try new things to see if you like them

>>2117245
Tolstoy's a tosser.

So is Dostoevsky for that matter.

Russian lit is just terrible.

>>2117734
Oh, except for Chekhov. He was a bro.

>>2117134
By actively trying to avoid becoming a hipster.

>>2117141
>2
>your

Get the fuck out