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You can make him read 3 books to refute his beliefs and cure him. What do you choose?

>> No.21410308

>>21410306
He's not my responsibility.

>> No.21410327

>>21410306
Nazi books, even pure propaganda, are way more interesting than anything written recently. I don't he needs curing, just let him be a nazi in peace!

>> No.21410328

Presumably his problem is that he‘s still considering edgy online republican behavior a viable avenue to White interests

Mein Kampf, This Time the World, and The Turner Diaries are genuinely the best remedy

>> No.21410329

>>21410308
>He is not my respons----ACK!!!!

>Anon found dead in a mass shooting massacre orchestrated by Mr. Chud

>> No.21410342

>>21410306
Impossible since technically/scientifically speaking he is 100% correct. I'm a commiecuck btw. Nazi chuds are totally superior, they even have bigger weewees than us. Time to commit suicide.

>> No.21410345

>>21410306
Evola amd Guenon so he stops hating orientals

>> No.21410347

>>21410329
>t. CNN-watching boomer halfwit
Russia stole the election too, right? Islam is a religion of peace, and races are all the same. HAHAHAHA

>> No.21410352

>>21410345
>hating orientals
I don't think he does, these types of people usually have yellow fever

>> No.21410357

>>21410345
Evola turns you into an immortal psychopathic supra-fascist who has transcendent sex with hot chicks. It's what chuds read when they turn 18.

>> No.21410360

>>21410352
Hating orientals and wanting to fuck their women are not mutually exclusive.
In fact most sociology types will tell you that one is a result of the other

>> No.21410361

>>21410352
Fuck off racist

>> No.21410363

>>21410306
Zhuang Zi
A portrait of the artist as a young man
Defending the undefendable

Physically impossible to be any idolocuck after these three

>> No.21410368

>>21410342
Finally someone has the balls/ovaries to say it

>> No.21410371
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>>21410352
>Yellow fever

>> No.21410376
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21410376

I've mentally gotten to the point where I'm ok with every race except blacks. What book should I read to convince my self that they can be part of a peaceful well ordered society? Pic related didn't do it for me.

>> No.21410379

>>21410306
Accelerationist bullshit.
Basically you are a liberal but you think you are playing 4d chess.

>> No.21410386

>>21410376
You're just becoming retarded.
Love all races, but understand that diversity within nations is almost certainly negative and that, at the very least, diversity is not a moral good nor is it wrong to have a homogenous country.
If you genuinely hated other races then you're just a retard on par with feminists, trannies, and jews.

>> No.21410392

>>21410363
>>21410376
Any ancap book.
>Establish a justice system with harsh enough repercussions that the victim benefits from crime (penal slavery)

>> No.21410410

>>21410306
Bataille; On Nietszche
Ted Kacynski; Industrial society and its future.
Eric Von Leddihn; Liberty or Equality.

>> No.21410420

The chud meme is so shitty and forced, thats basically what makes it funny. Leftist "males" look more like that on average. The OP pic should be kanye west.

>> No.21410426

>>21410306
Evola obvs

>> No.21410428
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>>21410392
Well I have seen a video showing how white people used to be straight up barbarians with worse crime rates than modern blacks. But during the medieval period they started to crack down hard on murder and they executed so many violent people that whites as a whole became far less violent. Accidental eugenics. But even that just feels cruel unless it was being done to blacks by other blacks,

>> No.21410432

>>21410329
kek

>> No.21410443

>>21410306
On the Iliad by Rachel Bespaloff
Death in Venice by Thomas Mann
What is enlightenment by Kant

>> No.21410448

The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements is a non-fiction book authored by the American social philosopher Eric Hoffer

The Mass Psychology of Fascism by Wilhelm Reich

the bible (for all their bluster about being christian i doubt they have actually read it)

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lil biolenny, don't make me tap the cup again

>> No.21410482

>>21410428
>>>21410392
>Well I have seen a video showing how White people used to be straight up barbarians
Yes
>with worse crime rates than modern Blacks.
It is not immoral to crush your enemy.
>But during the medieval period they started to crack down hard on murder
Killing is met with killing.
>and they executed so many violent people that whites as a whole became far less violent.
Untrue, see the duels and rough and tumble fights of the 17 and 1800s for proof. See the brutal wars fought solely for material gain and nihilistic fun. Look at people today and tell me the docile ones would not claw your throat out if given the chance to fulfill the primal fantasy inside them.
>Accidental eugenics.
Natural selection.

>> No.21410500

>>21410428
Yeah it's a myth that they had "high crime rates" unless high crime is conquering, raping, and pillaging your enemies. They had a fairly sophisticated and peaceful agrarian society internally, especially the vikings. (Yes, vikings. They were agrarian and their economy did not rest on pillaging. They pillaged because it was a fun pasttime for the rich and a way to gain fame and riches for the poor)

>> No.21410524

1. Bible
2. Bible
3. Bible

>> No.21410537

>>21410428
>>21410500
Saudi Arabia has lower vioent crime rates than europe even though it exclusively consists of inbred arab muslism. Because sharia doesn't fuck around.

>> No.21410538

>>21410500
I thought they went out pillaging and exploring due to overpopulation.

I'd like to share the video but it was an Alt Hype video and I can't find his shit anymore.

>> No.21410552

>>21410538
Yeah. Rich people fucked hookers for fun. Pillagigng was always for the desperate. If rich niggas did it then because they were afraid of losing their social status (and subsequently life)

>> No.21410559

>>21410347
We got a live one !

>> No.21410672

>>21410428
>with worse crime rates than modern blacks
Top kek you fucking retard. You would get killed or maimed for committing crimes in their societies. Kill yourself for being so stupid.

>> No.21410711

The discussion of books and lit in this thread is amazing. Top class gentlefrens.

>> No.21410715

>>21410537
Yeah and europe is only 70% white at best.

>> No.21410771

You do not usually cure someone's beliefs by offerings works opposing them. Instead you offer works that are the next possible steps beyond those beliefs.
in this particular case it really depends on the exact beliefs of the chud. It could be the works of Guénon if chud was onto fascism for the lip service to tradition. It could be the works of the French new right if chud actually took seriously the socialist part of national socialsim. It could be Beaudrillard's works if chud was specifically opposed to the decaying effects of liberalism on society (there is a reason Beaudrillard was accused of being a fascist late in life..

>> No.21410783

>>21410559
Epic fascist pwnage m'redditor

>> No.21410828

>>21410428
>accidental eugenics
White people, along with Indians and the Chinese were vaguely aware of eugenics for at least 2500 years. Was probably less accidental than you think.
>>21410306
Well, if he's German and a Nazi he's basically correct and you wouldn't be able to convince him otherwise without lying. But if he's an American larping as a Nazi you would want him to read books which illustrate the necessity of tailoring policy to your actual situation rather than ideologies. Maybe History of the Peloponessian War, or the Federalist Papers or something.

>> No.21410834

>>21410306
Nah. He's my new brother. In fact I want to make him worse.

>> No.21410839

>>21410345
My problem with orientals has little to do with their spiritual beliefs, if at all

>> No.21410897

>>21410306
>GK Chesterton (he had some epic takedowns of racial theory, which is even better considering he wrote it when racial theory was established science and only a chud would question racial theory)
>PG Wodehouse (I assume chud could use some humour)
>Dickens (teaches sympathy for the unfortunate, which chud should learn. I would recommend The Pickwick Papers because it is my favorite book and I wish more people would read it)

If you are questioning my selection and why it isn't more theory heavy, I believe most people get into extremism more from being in an extremist atmosphere as opposed to a strict and focused study. What I am say is, a change of air would do them good.

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>>21410306
The Ominous Parallels, Mein Kampf, The Virtue of Selfishness in that order.

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>>21410306
>Venona Files
>Soviet defectors
>picrel
Relegislating midcentury Germans' failed crusade against Communism is pointless in the Nuremberg Regime Overton Window guide rails of public discourse. Also what a terrible slide thread to not prune instantly ifrom the catalogue, gee, wonder what's going on here

>> No.21411424

>>21410306
Probably just the complete works of plato, the Pojman classics of philosophy and the norton anthology of theory and criticism: When he has completed all this he will be somewhere completely else and better.

>> No.21411460

I don't want to "cure" anyone of their beliefs because it's just wasting my time on other people. What they think/do is up to them, not me.

I'm not into narcissistic masturbation where I feel some penchant to change people.

>> No.21411638

>>21410363
>t. midwit

>> No.21411643

>>21410345
Nippon was nazi, retard.

>> No.21411660

>>21410347
Don't tire yourself out thrashing that strawman.

>> No.21411761

>>21410306
Unironcially Evola Guenon and Spengler. Anyone that reads those 3 and comes out as a mass shooter is a certified retard

>> No.21411812

Pessimist here. I could recommend him to read these:

1) Friedrich Nietzsche - Genealogy of Morality
to convince him that resentment toward the jews and women is peak slave morality.

2) Ernest Becker - Escape From Evil
this book will change his mind about people in general. Becker will convince him that people are naturally selfish and sadistic so a chud will stop expecting to be treated good.

3) Dhammapada - Buddha
This will teach him that hatred is pointless.

>> No.21411827

>>21410306
The Righteous Mind, Jonathan Haidt

That's it. Even if it doesn't "cure" his beliefs, it elevates the scrutiny he applies to his own frameworks. TradLARPing faggots are very boring.

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The Chud doesn't need more political beliefs, he'll just say it's a Jewish psyop anyway.

He needs to be taught to love and that even he is worthy of being loved. To that end, The Bible (without tradlarper wannabe crusader influences), Zarathustra and the Tao.

>> No.21411906

>>21411902
*more political literature, not political beliefs.

Probably some psych literature too.

>> No.21411940

>>21410386
>You're just becoming retarded.
>Love all races
I don't think that anon is the one that's retarded

>> No.21411954

>>21410347
>HAHAHAHA


You calm down, you.

>> No.21412049

>>21410347
Time-traveller from 2016 lol

>> No.21412248

>>21410448
Interesting post, and I suspect 100% right about the Bible.
>>21410897
Another wise post.
>>21411424
Interesting perspective.
>>21410306
>The Bible
>Select dialogues out of Plato's Complete Works - Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Republic, Meno - at least; with Republic and Meno being the most important.
>There are all sorts of works which would sufficiently fill in this slot - anything ameliorating and fully wholesome to the soul will do. MLK's "Letter From a Birmingham City Jail," and the relevant letter to MLK from the five pastors and two rabbis to whom was responding wouldn't hurt.

>>21410376
We already are. If you were serious, you wouldn't be asking that question on a board full of racists anyway. Quit LARPing at objectivity, try actually getting to know real people, and dispensing with your preconceived biases. Not that what you think matters, really; for every twisted man like you there are five dozen good.

>> No.21412274

>>21410342
>they even have bigger weewees than us.
This but unironically, any leftist can be cured by a good dicking, the one reason I support homosexuality, it can literally cure people.

>> No.21412503

>>21412049
>2016 was 5 years ago

>> No.21412520

>>21410306
Alexis de Tocqueville - Democracy in America
Julius Evola - The metaphysics of sex
The Bible

>> No.21412523

>>21412503
nigga do you know how to count?

>> No.21412524

>>21412520
Actually switch Evola for Heraclitus

>> No.21412585

>>21412523
Do you? And I'm not a nogger.

>> No.21412590

>>21412524
Good goy.

>> No.21412611

>>21410329
>Anon found dead in a mass shooting massacre orchestrated by Mr. Chud
I don't frequent gay clubs and I'm no longer a student. I'll be fine.

>> No.21412624

>>21410420
It comes off like innuendo to me

>> No.21412632

>>21411460
Its more of a female thing to do that. Which makes me wonder why OP hasn't shown us her tits

>> No.21412641

>>21411906
Most psychoanalysis is just 90% percent buckbreaking, the other ten percent is actually good

>> No.21412657

>>21410347
Anon... I'm sorry but it seems you mentally stopped growing in 2016...

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>>21410306

>> No.21412663

>>21410306
confessions of a mask is gonna make him break down

>> No.21412668

>>21412585
we're in 2022. 2022 - 5 = 2017. I can't believe i'm even biting this bait.

>> No.21412672

>>21410524
this made me antisemitic

>> No.21412718

>>21412590
I like Evola too but a big problem for chuds is that they are incapable of taking a light-hearted approach to things and Heraclitus is the best at that

>> No.21413005

>>21410306
Moby Dick, thrice

>> No.21413051

>>21412248
My man, you guys don't even believe in objectivity. And access to white people is not a human right

>> No.21413076

>>21413051
"Access to white people" - as if it were an intrinsic priviledge. Let me remind you, "my man," that white society is as rife with lazy, worthless cretins as any other. Generalize yourself into oblivion as you please, make excuses until you're blue in the face, but you will never be a rational human being so long as your biases [read: feelings] do your thinking for you. You'll always be Plato's squirming, immasculine irrational man.

>> No.21413125

>>21413076
>that white society is as rife with lazy, worthless cretins as any other.
Ok, so stop making other societies even more worthless because you have a fetish for white people. Access to white people is not a human right.
There is nothing rational about you. And Plato lived in a society that killed batbarians

>> No.21413132

>>21410308
fpbp

>> No.21413138

>>21410329
Anon, marxists believe that the only way their ideology can win is through a violent revolution where they exterminate every single owner of 'capital'

>> No.21413159

>>21410345
He should read Guenon, then read Schuon to heal the bad side effects of reading Guenon. Skip Evola so he doesn't become a larpy pseud, by far the worst types in the Guenon gang threads are the Evola worshippers and the best types are the Schuon enjoyers

>> No.21413171

>>21413125
What a low IQ post. If you're going to engage, at least provide competition. Keep seething.

>> No.21413179

>>21413171
This is the best response anyone can give a post as low-quality as yours, which is essentially just an ad-hominem but I guess that's the best you can do.

>> No.21413182

>>21413179
You're just not worth taking seriously, bro. Good luck with your frustrations.

>> No.21413203

>>21410306
He's not my responsibility.

>> No.21413215

>>21410347
>HAHAHAHA
- smartest /lit/ user, c. 21/12/2022

>> No.21413234

>>21413182
>I can't defend my entitlement
Yeah, I know

>> No.21413252

>>21413234
Bro, your entire premises are ludicrous. Try actually thinking about your own viewpoints. It isn't that I can't refute them, but that it would make me feel (as does right now, actually) like I'm talking to a child. You very may well be one for all I know. Seriously, kid, try actually thinking your own thoughts all the way through - implications and all. That's all the help I'm willing to give, and I've only given this much because there's nothing going on on the board right now.

>> No.21413259

>>21413138
sounds based

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>>21410327
>You can make him
You sound like a psychopath

>> No.21413266

>>21413252
That's a lot of letters that don't say anything. You sound frustrated.
All I said was access to white people is not a human right.

>> No.21413269

>>21413259
Ok, just don't pretend to think that killing someone or "violence" is evil or bad or something.

>> No.21413281

El Cordón Dorado: Hitlerismo Esotérico
Adolf Hitler: El Último Avatãra
MANÚ: "Por El Hombre Que Vendra"

>> No.21413283

>>21413269
Agreed.
different anon btw though

>> No.21413287

>>21411460
This man knows the Way

>> No.21413289

It's crazy how much /pol/'s taken over the rest of 4chan

>> No.21413290

>>21410306
I would introduce him to conspiracy theories of Hitler being a Rothschild agent

>> No.21413294

>>21413289
>/pol/
Anarcho-communists and trannies? Yeah they're pretty strident.

>> No.21413295

>>21413289
The collective realization of the power of the internet as a vessel for political indoctrination is a bit of a pandora's box, unfortunately. there is no going back.

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>>21413294
obsessed

>> No.21413306

>>21413299
No greentext therefore you look like that.
>>21413295
Are you saying /pol/ indoctrinated people? After all the other mandatory indoctrinations they had throughout their lives?

>> No.21413307

>>21413295
>a vessel for political edification
ftfy

>> No.21413309

>>21413289
4chan has pretty much always been edgy and iconoclastic. And progressives are inherently insufferable

>> No.21413334

>>21410328
Mein kampf taught me that hitler was nothing more than a moderate analyst and made the same mistakes he criticized the german empire for making in ww1. He was great at talking about building but called dadaism degenerate art (it was pioneered by fucking picasso), the vienna school was absolutely right about him being better off as an architect.
The turner diaries is such a hillbilly shitshow the climax is a fucking kamikaze cropduster with a nuke.

>> No.21413352

>>21413306
I'm not just talking about /pol/
I'm talking about how every single user of the internet on all sides of the political spectrum is now an ideologue

>> No.21413367

>>21410306
None. Because he is right.

>> No.21413369

>>21410345
>so he stops hating orientals
I think he doesnt

>> No.21413374

>>21410428
Oh yeah? What was the (((director's))) name?

>> No.21413384

This board is beyond saving.

>> No.21413389

>>21413334
Fuck you hebrew those 3 works are the best and they reveal the white man you are the jew. Tick tick yid

>> No.21413472

>>21410306
Tolstoy, Tolkien, Schmitt

>> No.21414081

>>21413367
Fpbp

>> No.21414088

>>21413289
It'sbrcause they are correct

>> No.21414096

>>21413159
People who read Schuon are the biggest pseud cucks ever. Baron Evola is incomparably better.

>> No.21414105

>>21414096
His followers are dumb larpers who aren't even traditional or religious, also always the dumbest in the threads

>> No.21414107

>>21412657
You stopped mentally growing when you were 11 because you're a nigger, doesnt mean you should be culled although in theory the logic is sound

>> No.21414110

>>21412668
You idiot. We are basically in 2023. Try learning math. Are you brown?

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/chuds/ won
/qa/ won
TND imminent

>> No.21414140

>>21414105
Why are you still talking about Schuon's tranny fanboys? Evola is way better.

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>>21410306
i love hitters too. my fav is babe ruth overweight asshole.

>> No.21414163

Bronze Age Mindset so he believes the same thing but lifts weights

>> No.21414165

>>21414136
>TND
w-what?

>> No.21414166

>>21414140
Paganism isn't a real religion and even if it was its no longer possible to be pagan bro, I'm sorry, its time to wake up

>> No.21414177

>>21414166
>reads Schuon and not Evola
>calls people bro unironically
>le paganism
You're a shitskin aren't you? Go back to your 3rd world toilet, your people are a burden on the West.

>> No.21414190

>>21410306
just make him touch some grass and talk to people

>> No.21414196

>>21413389
אדרבה רוב אנשים לבנים מואסים את הספרים האלה. נראה לי שהשקפתך משתכחת

>> No.21414200

>>21414177
Schuon and Guenon are just way better I'm sorry this upsets you and you have no argument and have to resort to very weird copes, the truth hurts

>> No.21414213

>>21413384
I know, it's really getting to me

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>>21414136
Total chud victory

>> No.21414259

Looool you guys are still talking about N*zis EIGHTY YEARS LATER. Our overlords are fucking geniuses you have to admit

>> No.21414579

>>21410376
>>21410306
I don't think a book can fix you if you don't believe in the concept of individuality.

>> No.21414639

>>21413269
Killing someone isn't ALWAYS bad or evil

>> No.21414659

>>21410306
“The Lightning and the Sun” by Savitri Devi
“The Myth of the Twentieth Century” by Alfred Rosenberg
“Hitler’s War” by David Irving

>> No.21414760

>>21410306
He doesn't read.

>> No.21415219

>>21413374
The Alt Hype, I don't remember his real name.

>> No.21415232

>>21410376
Any book heavy enough to give you brain damage if dropped on your head should do the trick.

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>>21410428
You are incapable of thinking in abstractions, the tiny percentage of your people who can are treated like a prized pet that can communicate it needs to shit before it does so indoors.

>> No.21415253

>>21415241
>pic
kek

>> No.21415265

>>21410347
Expert bait

>> No.21415479

>>21410306
Diary of a Wimpy Kid
Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules
Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Last Straw

>> No.21415494

>>21415241
I'm white and the guy that made that video was white. Did you even follow the tread to see my original question?

>> No.21415506

>>21413289
4chan is nothing but 50 year old /pol/fags, discord trannies, bots, and the fat cock guy(me)

>> No.21415509

>>21415265
>tehe its bait cuz it triggers my fragile snowflake worldview
I bet you try to "correct" people irl when they say faggot too. You probably think joe bidet doesnt have dementia and nigger george floyd was choked to death by police amd didnt jist OD like a retarded crack addict. You dumb faggot.

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>>21415494
That you think even more violent men killed the existing violent men and that drove down crime is entirely why i posted what i did.

>> No.21415516

I just realized that this board is so far right its not even funny.

>> No.21415523

>>21415511
Executing a murderer is not the same as some spastic killing someone for looking at them wrong and you know it.

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>>21415516
>board with high tolerance for free speech and a higher than normal amount of classic lit fanboys is far-right

>> No.21415528

>>21415516
You can leave if you don't like it. There are plenty of websites that ban right wing speech, try reddit.

>> No.21415535

>>21415516
This, reading is supposed to open your mind. I guess some of you just forgot that? lol.....

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>>21415516
It's called the marketplace of ideas

>> No.21415537

>>21415516
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where "feed" and "seed" both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".

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>>21415535
>Stop coming to the wrong conclusions
>Stop reading the wrong books
>Stop thinking for yourself
>This is why we need to censor certain authors
>This is why we need strict moderation
>This is why universities are so important

>> No.21415561

>>21415516
>far-right
The political compass and its consequences have been disastrous for online discussion, allowing midwits to fulfill their ape need for a simplistic means of identifying one another which waters down any form of knowledge

>> No.21415574

>>21415535
>open your mind
Have you ever been to an American university? They are all ideologically homogeneous and dominated by anti-white, sclerositic theocrats. Chud ideas are dangerous and sexy to open minded people at these places. YOU are the lame old man.

>> No.21415575

>>21413289
/r9k/ /gif/ and /b/ have been taken by lgbt.

>> No.21415581

>>21415561
>t. midwit

>> No.21415582
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>>21410306
Don't know about changing his mind but will definitely keep him busy.

>> No.21415605

>>21410306
Männerphantasien
The Open Society and It’s Enemies
Black Future

>> No.21415637

>>21415528
No I think it's great. Just kind of scary.

>> No.21415646

>>21410342
Correct take unfortunately.

>> No.21415648

>>21415535
People had their minds open and became far right. It makes sense, since "far right" is really the normal worldview when looking at all of history. I think its great that such a diverse group of people can come together under shared ideas of Tradition.

>> No.21415659

>>21415637
>these people dont think like every other subgroup of the internet

>> No.21415668

>>21415659
>oy vey!

>> No.21415937

>>21410386
Jewish people are a race anon

>> No.21415950

the power elite by c wright mills
the machiavellians by burnham
giants by peter philips

nazis are cringe & dont read

>> No.21416028

>>21413252
holy shit it's hilarious when these twitter half-wits wander in here, get easily blown the fuck out and start flailing. oh wow.

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>>21415950
Yes, we do.

>> No.21416217

>>21410672
did you read what you quoted?

>> No.21416327

>>21410524
He got bored shortly after Genesis upon each of his three recommended reading attempts.

>> No.21416565

>>21415950
You're posting on a literature bored infested with n***s posting their fascist asshole writers. Dont be wilfully ignorant.

>> No.21416588
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>>21415516
The far right is exclusively the domain of lonely and disenfranchised unsuccessful men, and 170+ IQ supergeniuses.

>> No.21416620

>>21416588
This.
The problem is the intellectual bourgeoisie are too appeal-to-authority/status-quo dependent, cowardly and status-driven to ever dare entertain any idea that associates them with the low status disenfranchised.

>> No.21416700

>>21410376
Be careful not to look at ANY statistics!

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>>21416588
>>21416620

>> No.21416713

>>21416704
Jordan Peterson is genuinely a stupid person.

>> No.21416726
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>>21416713
His early work is of immense importance and help to many men, including me. His utter refusal to encourage young white men to associate based on the grounds of ethno-cultural is willful infliction of suffering.

>> No.21416778

>>21413264
>You sound like a psychopath
this is bad?

>> No.21416804

>>21410448
all of these books are fucking shit. The true believer is overhyped beyond belief

>> No.21416889

>>21414136
>>21414230
>>21415538

Where can I find more chud art

>> No.21416896

>>21416889
I don't know how chuds can take the most demeaning shit and turn it around into an object of pride. how the fuck
like what the fuck can you do
they even call themselves INCEL troopers
they literally have no shame

>> No.21417005

>>21416889
I too would like to see more chud art. hilarious

>> No.21417027

>>21416896
It's almost like you're a seething humorless asshole
Dare I say it; the bad guy?

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>>21416889
I have a couple

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>>21416889

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>>21416889
my favorite

>> No.21417061

>>21417055
>>21417054
>>21417041

Chuds stay winning

>> No.21417079

>>21413266
>>21416028
I'm not frustrated, or flailing. I was caught somewhere between impatience and pity, but not pitying enough to explain what you're failing to see. That's why I said to think on your views - even their implications, and that it was all I'm willing to give. Hopefully you have, but even if not, it isn't my concern.

>>21410306
>>21412248
I've decided to change the third recommendation to Geoffrey Chaucer. I would recommend either his Romaunt of the Rose, or The Canterbury Tales, as I mentioned before, either one falls well into the category of what is ameliorating, OP. MLK's letter is still more than worthwhile, but sometimes I think it less helpful to focus on these sorts of negative things directly, than to simply fill yourself up with good things - Phillipians 4:9 style.

>>21414760
Accurate.

>> No.21417080

>>21410345
stop?

>> No.21417083

>>21416588
this, to be far right you have to be somewhat isolated/independent

>> No.21417084

>>21410306
>>21411902
>>21414136
>>21414230
>>21415538
>>21417041
>>21417054
>>21417055
HOW IS CHUD SO ENDEARING
LITERALLY IN LOVE WITH HIM OMG

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>>21417061
retweet amarnaGODS rule /shit/

captcha AJ GOY J

>> No.21417093

>>21415937
Yeah, I love jews. I also love how scheming, vicious, and hateful they are; it's one of their most distinctive traits. I hope Jews find a homeland and live there peacefully, seething and being Jews on their own time.
I'm just noting that if he hates other races and thinks he's superior just because he's (insert race) then he's like a Jew.

>> No.21417101

>>21415575
>/r9k/
was taken over by r/incel years ago then discord and /soc/ took it from them
>/gif/
neutral ground with occasional stones thrown
>/b/
no one's given a shit about /b/ since moot killed it after GG
he basically started the chudpocalypse and the rise of /pol/ by cucking out and trying to ban everyone

>> No.21417110

>>21417101
>moot getting a blowie caused the trump presidency

>> No.21417330

Damn, these new chud memes are LIT

>> No.21417335

>>21417330
Chuds appropriated the chud meme
We need something new like an incel meme or something

>> No.21417405

Mein Kampf
JD Unwins Sex and Culture
The Bell Curve

>> No.21417547

>>21410306
Culture of Critique
Leviathan and Its Enemies
How to Bomb the US Government

>> No.21418981

>>21417547
Is Sam's book actually worth a read

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Will you carry us through?

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I love these.

>> No.21419051

>>21417110
God is a kino twist savant

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>>21419048

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>>21419053

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>>21419057

>> No.21419083

>>21419064
>>21419057
>>21419053
>>21419048

Can you imagine being the kind of person who looks at these and finds them unironically inspiring or deep

tragic

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>>21419083
I see you, mohel.

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>>21410306
I give him a gf. No books

>> No.21419146

>>21410420
Yeah, in my experience "chuds" tend to be fat guys with patchy facial hair.

>> No.21419168

>>21417083
Not really, being far right means submitting to authorities. To be independent you have to be more of an anarchist.

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>>21413334
>it was pioneered by fucking picasso
and?

>> No.21419207

I don't understand how "Chud" caught on when it's a unoffensive, unfunny meme that comes across as an leftist's lame idea of an insult but it doesn't actually reflect reality.

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>>21419207
>I don't understand how "Chud" caught on when it's a unoffensive, unfunny meme that comes across as an leftist's lame idea of an insult but it doesn't actually reflect reality.
That's why it caught on. The reddit and discord trannies' inability to meme is endlessly funny.

>> No.21419303

>>21415524
>free speech
you get banned here though.

>> No.21419337

>>21410306
Mein Kampf
Bloodlands
Soldaten by Söhnke Neizel

>> No.21419406

>>21419303
High tolerance. Not utterly permissive.

>> No.21419461

>>21413334
>but called dadaism degenerate art

And he is absolutely right.

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>>21419406
racism is against the rules here. That don't sound very far-right.

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>>21419494
Im not racist.

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>>21410420
First of all, rightists do loook like that. Second, it's /pol/face, not the chud. The chud hits the gym. Big difference.

Also the meme has persisted because it's not too expressive, it's just staring at you, like Pepe.

>> No.21419683

>>21415648
This.
I grew up never being taught anything about pre-WWII attitudes beyond
>they were just silly, confused and backwards people
We're in a comically retarded situation where the 'bigots' are open-minded and receptive to new ideas, while the 'tolerant and open-minded' are myopic closed systems.

>> No.21419725

>>21415648
>>21419683

When people say Far-Right it has been used by people who are ancap-btc mongs to monarchists. I would like to see a better description on values and beliefs beyond Left vs Right. Which typically means less freedom vs more freedom, this can change depending on where you stand on the spectrum.

If you are left wing, left means more freedoms per hour
If you are right wing, right means more freedoms per hour.

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>>21410306
Just one - The Righteous Mind by Jon Haidt. Must read for anyone, left or right. Probably the best book written on morality in the last 40 years.

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>>21415516
>I just realized that this board is so far right its not even funny.
Most trad evangelical types are middle-class to rich types trying to cope with their ennui.

>>21419683
>We're in a comically retarded situation where the 'bigots' are open-minded and receptive to new ideas, while the 'tolerant and open-minded' are myopic closed systems.
Everyone is a little bit hypocritical, but I don't see this trad stuff as people being interesting in constructing a new canopy of meaning to replace the one that has been breaking down, but people being forced to change their opinions given the turns of events, but then seeking to fit those opinions into an older vessel. Ideas are handed down from generation to generation. They can also reek of staleness like grandma's pillows. Merry Christmas.

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21419762

>>21419725
>Right
Order
>Left
Chaos
>>21419752
Merry Christmas to you too, Curtis.

>> No.21419810

>>21410306
the archetypes and the collective unconscious - jung
the puer aeternus - marie v franz
the red book - jung

>> No.21419835

>>21419083
But they are inspiring for en masses.

>> No.21419866

>>21419762
>>Right
>Order
>>Left
>Chaos

What is order for the spider is chaos for the fly. This is not accurate either and is colored with bias. Its almost as if a political spectrum based on where people were standing in relation to a monarch roughly 250 years ago is a terrible way to assess politics. Its as bad as taking morality from illiterate shepards 2000 years ago.

>> No.21419881

>>21419866
A lion eating a gazelle is order, a gazelle eating a lion is chaos (for both of them).

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>>21419881
But a human eating both is order, curious.

>> No.21419906

>>21419881
>>21419866
Israel is order, crying is order, washing your penis is order, washing your non-Israel nation's penis, well now that's chaos

>> No.21419914

>>21419890
Sort of. Lions aren't part of our diets, so that would be unusual, but since humans are the apex predators it wouldn't be complete chaos.
It wouldn't be chaos for a man who wandered into the jungle unarmed and unprepared to get eaten by a lion, either.

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>>21419906
Audible kek

>>21419914
So it would be mildly chaotic or reasonably ordered.

>> No.21419948

>>21419932
>>21419932
>anon used the words order and chaos
>so did jordan peterson
>that means he's jordan peterson lmao llolOO!Lol!!1
Sorry I bothered.

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>>21419948
My response to you was made in earnestly. You can have varying degrees of chaos and order. What >>21419906 posted was funny.

>> No.21420049

>>21419962
The way I would conceptualize it is similar to
>you can serve in heaven, or rule in hell
I see order as acting in accordance with nature/natural laws rather than trying to defy them or supplant them with some naive or ill-considered notion of what you think is 'better'.
>You can have varying degrees of chaos and order
Guess so, but I would also consider nuance natural and orderly. One of the great tragedies of the modern age is the death of lively fluidity and motion for stagnant, rigidly defined death.

>> No.21420070

>>21410306
Eichmann in Jerusalem
Eichmann in Jerusalem
Eichmann in Jerusalem

>> No.21420072

>>21420070
wtf? None of you mongrels have ever read Hannah Arendt? 200 fucking posts and none of you mentioned the work of genius produced by Heideggers student and lover?

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>>21410306
You will never be a woman.

>> No.21420458

>>21410306
You can't make him read
>reading is a jewish psyop ! I saw so myself on on this internet infographic posted on a darkweb site!

>> No.21420524

>>21420458
Actually reading and math is racist now

>> No.21420618

>>21419810
Why read Jung after Evola's trasncendent redpills?

>> No.21420625

>>21420458
>nigger-tier retard posts it's black ape opinion
Go read nigger Michael Obama's latest cashgrab or go back to playing with your asshole, just get off my /lit/.

>> No.21421135

>>21413334
>The turner diaries is such a hillbilly shitshow the climax is a fucking kamikaze cropduster with a nuke.
Fine, I'll read it.

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>>21413334
>the climax is a fucking kamikaze cropduster with a nuke.
Alright, I'll try it.

>> No.21421280

>>21419207
It has none of the bite that right wing equivalent like "cuck" have

>> No.21421292

>>21419207
50% it being so funny for exactly that reason, 50% the kinds of leftists who come to 4chan to yell at chuds about 2016 culture war shit forcing it as a meme. It helps that it became identified with the /pol/ face meme, chudjak is just plain fun to post.

Who doesn't like being a chud and being called a chud? It literally just means "not a podcast loving fruit like me." It's hilarious.

>> No.21421300

>>21410376
Just make a friend who is black, though I don't think you'll be able make a friend of any race. Many are normal. Or read Invisible Man to prove to yourself black people can be intelligent and create good literature.

>> No.21421338

>>21410376
Niggers aren’t a race. They are the missing link between chimps and Jews. So not even remotely human.

>> No.21421356

>>21410428
Nice try jewnigger. Whites were just better at conquering than the other sub nigger farm animal races

>> No.21421368

>>21413138
Marxists are to capital what incels are to sex

>> No.21421384

>>21413076
PLEASE WYPIPO LET MY AVERAGE 84IQ SUB NIGGER RETARD POOP MONKEY FAMILY INTO YOUR COUNTRY, PLEASE PLEASE I AM A REFUGE FROM THE HORRORS OF LIVING AMOUNG MY OWN PEOPLE.

>> No.21421392

>>21413289
In an unrestricted free debate /pol/ will always win and jews will always lose. Truth conquers evil in a fair fight and a bit long when you lets jews take over your media.

>> No.21421417

>>21413076
Okay, then all these brownoids don't need access to white people. Their people are just fine and exactly equal so let them go be with their own.

>> No.21421425

>>21419083
You are the söyim

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>>21413289
It's crazy how much /pol/ has taken over society, or could it be, just maybe that society is course correcting?

Could it be that was said thousands of years ago by Ancient Greeks, Ancient Romans and every single culture, creed and race since then was actually correct?

Could it be that the jew is a poisoner of society and should never be permitted to enter it, lest its malevolent acts bring down what was so painstakingly built?

>> No.21421449

>>21421428
OY VEY

>> No.21421458

>Chud doesn't read
>Chud just needs love/to get laid
>Chud just needs to read X book but in the RIGHT WAY
Cope

>> No.21421464

>>21421300
I've been friends with nonwhites, they're NPCs. 3rd worlders are literal subhumans. Loud and stupid, can't contain themselves and have shit taste in everything. Being friends with blacks when you're white is selling yourself short, unless you're meth trailer trash or jewish. Asians can be cool, maybe upper-caste indians too.

>> No.21421466

>>21420625
Back to /pol/

>> No.21421472

>>21421464
There is something seriously wrong with you

>> No.21421480

>>21421466
Uhhmmmm no sweetie, I'm good, /pol/ is racist and fascist, aka they are fucking problematic to any peraon with a shred of fuckinf humanity. I literally getting ptsd flashbacks from hearring that word, so please provide a trigger warning next time unless you are purposefully trying to be a problematic fucking fascist fuckstick. Also fuck you for telling me what to do, if you don't like my opinion you can go back to your safeplace like the poor little snowflake we know you are, poor litle white man.

>> No.21421484

>>21421472
I want to know if the normal people. Is this board all /pol/tards now

>> No.21421490

>>21421484
If the normal people are all gone*
>>21421480
Silence your autism and goosestep back to /pol/

>> No.21421498

>>21421472
I'm likely just more observant/aware than you, and probably have had more exposure to different cultures than you. How stupid are you to think that all people and cultures are equal? It is obviously false.

To the contrary, there must be something wrong with you if you spend prolonged periods of time with 3rd worlders or blacks and can't notice the things I mentioned. Or maybe you are just low-class trash (maybe nonwhite, too). I don't mean economic class, i mean your character/personality/individuality is inferior. You probably have shitty taste in music and literature, you watch tv/netflix or mindless youtube videos, you are basically an NPC yourself, so you don't notice anything wrong or anything different between a brahmin and a shudra.

>> No.21421501

>>21421490
Can you not read? You stupid asshole. Why would i use racist, fascist /pol/? Plus, it's full of stinking mexicans, not even white people. You should go back to /pol/, since you're a problematic fucking fascist asshole.

>> No.21421506

>>21421484
It's ok to cry.

>> No.21421507

>>21421464
I find a lot of nonwhites to be tolerable and nice but they are extreme victims of the current system, even worse than whites are. Latinoids are totally fucked mentally, they are definitely the replacements for whites, being brought in and trained by the whites, but I don't think the elites know how useless they are. They seem to cap out at 90IQ and take for granted that the world is whatever way it is being depicted on TV, which I guess is useful if you want non-rebellers, but they are actually too retarded. It's like how the CCP has the perfect slaves because Chinese will never rebel, in theory, but they also can't get anything done because every Chinaman is a one-man passive resistance army waiting for the government to fall and be replaced by another. Latinoids are like that except with pure dumb passivity. When the elites said "We need retards between blacks and whites, who just want to smoke weed and eat food like blacks but with none of the crazy violence, and they can sort of do basic menial jobs," it made sense on paper but they didn't realize what they were getting into.

Upper class third world immigrants are sort of the same as Latinoids, but instead of being 90IQ menial jobbers, they are capped as 110IQ midwit fake office jobbers, dentists, shit like that. All those Indian and second/third gen Asian office women, again perfect slaves because they like the slave cafeteria and will never rebel, but retarded dead weight that causes exponential institutional bloat, and they also have extreme welfare demands because they're all weak and retarded and expect life to be managed for them. This class burns out its entire mental energy on "competing" for scraps in white society, with a white middle class that has been dead for 50 years.

Arabs and other Musloids are completely mentally retarded, even dumber than Latinoids, because of the inbreeding. Unless they're from upper class tribes, or rich secular Turks or Persians, then they fall into the office lady/dentist midwit category.

Blacks are the most tragic group because they are so psychologically destroyed that they are basically demonic as a group, but individuals can be extremely good normal people in my opinion, and the old ones who were raised going to church are often model citizens, you just can't find these anymore.

Filipinos seem alright.

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>>21421484
>normal people
>4chan

>> No.21421517

>>21421464
Even the blacks in higher education are insufferable because they usually have chips on their shoulders about it and do obnoxious hood nigger/black panther affectations

>> No.21421527

>>21421498
Lashing out like that isn’t really helping your case. Quite ironic how you make these broad, crass generalizations and then call ME an NPC. Demonic politicians and elites thrive off these dangerous generalizations that destroy the idea of the individual. Wake up and realize you are being used

>> No.21421529

>>21421517
That's rich ones with no identity who are desperately grasping for one, try befriending black weebs

Even ghetto blacks are very down to earth and sane about a lot of things, they just need an internal cultural revolution

>> No.21421533

>>21421529
>try befriending black weebs
I think I'd rather stab myself.

>>21421507
Good post, sir.

>> No.21421536

>>21421529
Also, why would i want to associate with low-class illiterates? Have some standards.

>> No.21421538

>>21421536
Every race and culture will inevitably have its lower class. They are only "low class" by current definitions of culture, which are all unmoored from any higher sense of truth anyway. The current culture industry needs to be completely torn down. Any black people who manage to maintain their integrity against the mob mentality they experience every day should be respected.

>> No.21421548

>>21421417
If they are in the country of their forbears, they are with their own. If they have given up their own home and emigrated according to the laws of their new nation, and observe its rules - they are with their own. You are not who gets to define "their own" for them, according to your own prejudiced preferences. Pure arrogance.

>> No.21421556

>>21421384
You, like the other guy, save with even less grace, are deluding yourself. If you cannot observe reality for what it is, you are a coward, and contrary to your delight, the inferior of most men.

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>>21421529
They can't revolutionize beyond their intellectual capacity. The vast majority are sub-human in terms of intelligence and it is not improving fast enough to maintain the current gap between them and other demographics. While other (non brown or black) ethnic groups are becoming more intelligent, blacks and browns are not. They are not even maintaining the same rate of growth which would be needed to keep the intelligence gap relatively similar. No, they are barely moving over generations, so what was one standard deviation in intelligence is now becoming two. In a decade or two, maybe a generation, the new intelligence quotient will be reset to 100 (baseline) and subsequent measures of black and brown IQ quotient will be revised further down as they fail to keep up despite having a three to one ratio of resources allocated to them at all points in the education system.

At what point do we remove this boat anchor around our necks and swim for the shore?

>> No.21421563

>>21421548
The forces that brought them and diluted the native democratic vote that never wanted them were unconstitutional and anti-democratic, and now they turn around and use democracy as a justification. Look up the 1965 immigration act:
>You can see why [in the 1920s] American felt our borders were out of control. [The immigration law passed at the time] stated a preference for Northern Europeans] ... [Restrictions on] Southern Catholics and Jews—this went on to 1964, so all through [World War II] there were incredible restrictions. 1965 comes, we’re reluctant leaders of the world, we have an economic boom, we didn’t have much immigration, and we have a ton of guilt. First, about the Holocaust. [Rep.] Manny Celler was voted in in 1923…he was Jewish, from Manhattan. He was warning about the Holocaust, and everybody was ignoring him. In 1947, he was head of the Judiciary Committee, and he was able to get jurisdiction [over immigration] changed from the Labor Committee. He had control over immigration reform. There was a huge attitude change. Exodus had been published. Israel was popular. The other thing was the civil rights movement. Black soldiers were coming back, and there were Jim Crow laws. Those movements drove the 1965 law. Philip Hart, called the conscience of the Senate, was passionate about civil rights. ... They decided to do away with preferences for work skills, and have preferences for family reunification. That’s pretty unique to immigration law—they gave green cards to extended family members.
>“Manny Celler managed to get immigration into the Judiciary committee,” Orchowski told TAC in an interview. “That changed the whole focus on immigration from a labor thing to a justice [thing].”
>Following the conclusion of the war, Celler worked to liberalize American immigration laws. He helped pass a bill that allowed 339,000 Displaced Persons to come to the United States, including many Jews.
>Over the next few decades, he continued to work to liberalize American immigration laws, pushed by Jews and others who were discriminated against by the current system. That culminated with him writing and passing the INA, which is also known the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965.

Also the Cloward-Piven strategy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
>In his 2006 book Winning the Race, political commentator John McWhorter attributed the rise in the welfare state after the 1960s to the Cloward–Piven strategy, but wrote about it negatively, stating that the strategy "created generations of black people for whom working for a living is an abstraction".[8]

>According to historian Robert E. Weir in 2007: "Although the strategy helped to boost recipient numbers between 1966 and 1975, the revolution its proponents envisioned never transpired."[9]

How do you respond when the core of your people and their way of life is being attacked with underhand tactics like this? Carl Schmitt has the answer

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>>21421563
So did Mr Rockwell.

>> No.21421566

>>21421538
>Every race and culture will inevitably have its lower class
Wow, gigabrained take. Certain races/cultures are also below others.

>>21421548
>If they have given up their own home and emigrated according to the laws of their new nation, and observe its rules - they are with their own.
Are you unironically 15? Maybe you're just black...

>> No.21421568

>>21421556
I can tell you're black and trying to sound intelligent with your white middle school-tier opinions.

>>21421557
>>21421563
Based

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>>21421538
>Every race and culture will inevitably have its lower class
But don't ever compare them as a unified whole, right? In a multicultural society we must never say that blacks occupy all the lowest positions of society because they lack the fundamental attributes needed to make progressive improvements in life.

>> No.21421574

>>21421557
I'm sorry but this kind of vulgar biological reductivism is exactly what blinded the Nazis and made them incapable of actually embodying the principles of the Sonnenrad. IQ is nothing but an abstraction, all forms of biological and material reductionism are anti-traditional and far more subversive than the idea that the different races are capable, in their own living spaces, of producing distinct high cultures.

>At what point do we remove this boat anchor around our necks and swim for the shore?
I agree with you there, and both authoritarian measures and large-scale plans for peaceful repatriation and vacating Europe of dumbfuck immigrants are obviously necessary, since this is a state of emergency and a genocide (an act of war) against whites. I'm just saying, once this is done, or while it's going on, you don't need to be chest thumping like a skinhead degenerate about how niggers stink.

>>21421566
You don't seem to be engaging in good faith.

>> No.21421576

>>21421572
Blacks need to be given areas where they can live and thrive on their own. Helping Africa itself to develop to a high spiritual level, until Africans can responsibly join humanity, which may take thousands of years, can only be accomplished when European countries are no longer being destroyed from the inside. But again none of this requires an obsession with denigrating nonwhites or talking about how they're natural slaves.

>> No.21421581

>>21421507
>Blacks are the most tragic group because they are so psychologically destroyed that they are basically demonic as a group, but individuals can be extremely good normal people in my opinion, and the old ones who were raised going to church are often model citizens, you just can't find these anymore.

As an American black man, your view reads so sadly true, not least of all in the face of the Black Lives Matter movement, it nearly brought me to tears. You've described something which is always on my mind - the worrying trend away from the character of the past, which ought to have increased in strength and fervor, yet seems instead to be giving way to virulence and lawlessness. I am inclined to lay blame to the influence of the arts, pornography, and drug culture, yet despite the abject horror of current Black political trends, please do not forget there are still many Black men and women living the lives of normal citizens - going to work, coming home, raising children, paying bills, and wishing for nothing, save peace, joy, and comfort in their daily lives - the same as everyone normal. I wish I could say I have a solution for the rest, but I can only hope to nudge the individuals I meet in the right direction, or else reaffirm the strength of those who embody it. God help us.

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>>21421574
>Im sorry but this kind of vulgar biological reductivism is exactly what blinded the Nazis and made them incapable of actually embodying the principles of the Sonnenrad
What an odd take, considering the Sonnerrad was the theory used to explain why Germany was the one that explicitly embraced the anti-democratic tradition so well.

>IQ is nothing but an abstraction
IQ is a value representative of g factor, it is an abstraction derived from a broad catalogue of tests from which you can predict an incredible amount.

It is an exact science, an accurate one that was so successful in screening for talent that it was banned because it utterly excluded blacks and browns from any responsibility in society. SATs are basically an measurement of g factor, the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery or ASVAB is a group of tests designed to measure g factor. They are IQ tests.

>Helping Africa itself to develop to a high spiritual level, until Africans can responsibly join humanity, which may take thousands of years, can only be accomplished when European countries are no longer being destroyed from the inside.
We are hundreds, if not a thousand years ahead of Africa now, when we discovered them we were hundreds of years ahead. This is only increasing at an exponential rate. We have spent trillions of dollars in resources trying to get them to our level now, they have not made any progress, in fact they have regressed as the adoption of new technology and values let them abandon the traditions that barely kept them alive. Now the technology that they adopted is broken and useless because they have no idea how to maintain it, on top of this foreign aid has swelled their numbers to horrific levels that can not be sustained on their own.

>> No.21421609

>>21421568
Unfortunately for you, I am intelligent. If I don't sound it to you, you probably aren't. I have been open about being black from the beginning, so figuring that out is nothing special.

>>21421563
Black men and women, along with Jews have been in the USA for 400 years now. They are in their native land. The same goes for many countries. I am aware many Africans are now immigrating, both legally and illegally, but that is a simple byproduct of opportunity (which you would know, if you actually got to know actual people instead of just watching clips online).

Certainly, certainly, there is always politicking and electoral manipulation going on in one manner or another. I don't think we, regular people, can even imagine just how much, but analyzing the presence of people from only a macroscopic political lens negates the individual - which is the primary driver here.

In addition to politics, I also happen to think economics is a driving factor in gov't proselytizing for immigration, and yes, even cultural warfare. The elites shrewdly enjoy constantly pitting every class in society against its opposite as often as possible, and they employ the arts and media most of all to do this - children v. parents, husbands v. wives, women v. men, straight v. gay, trans v. cis, black v. white, red v. blue, green energy v. oil, rich v. poor, etc.,. You name it, they will use it. It keeps people off of their backs, and allows them the breathing room to forward their own ends. They use the celebrities in their pockets to distract from important events and to promote all sorts of insanities. What you're sharing is absolutely a dimension of the big picture, but it is not the big picture entirely. You cannot forget actual people. They are the most important component of any picture.

>> No.21421614

>>21421566
Ironically, you sound 15.

>> No.21421617

>>21421609
>Black men and women, along with Jews have been in the USA for 400 years now. They are in their native land
They had no hand in hammering out roads, erecting buildings, establishing its systems and institutions. They did not grow and shape the nation, the land and people. They have no great philosophy that contributed to the nation-state. They are a burden on the back of manifest destiny, one holding on by the neck while the other tries to trip the feet.

>> No.21421618

>>21421576
What an absolutely ridiculous post. You live in a fantasy land built of ignorance. I wish I had the time to dispel it for you, but, good God, it would take more patience and time than I have.

>> No.21421621

>>21421617
Stupid retard! Non-white immigrants built our railroads which were the lifeblood of our economy. Ever heard of John Henry?

>> No.21421622

>>21421617
Wrong on literally every point. Congratulations on your ignorance of history.

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>>21421576
>Helping Africa itself to develop to a high spiritual level, until Africans can responsibly join humanity, which may take thousands of years
If they can not replace oil in their old ass BMW banger now, what suggests that in a more complex society they will be able to function?

>> No.21421634

>>21421581
The fact that black people have held out and even manifested "counter-currents" against the times, when you were in many ways the original test subjects for the NWO's desire to utterly demoralize and spiritually destroy a group of people so they can never rebel again, actually gives me a lot of hope that we are dealing with forces and here that aren't just biological and material. If they were, we would already have lost the game, because the board is completely controlled by evil forces that are doing everything they can to treat man as if he is merely material, and completely destructible and mouldable. But something always pushes back, a something that therefore can't be coming from mere material. I'm a meme racist but black people unironically give me a lot of hope, there are remnants of healthy folk culture everywhere in the black community.

You're doing the right thing, people like you need to hold on and become leaders of your community later. Good people already tried, at a time when the system was so overwhelmingly powerful that it could just reach out and crush them to further demoralize the black community, basically a way of saying "look, even when you get close to self-consciousness, we'll just do this." But even then, those people enabled blacks to think in ways that the system couldn't contain, they planted seeds that are now bearing fruit.

If the ultimate victim of evil, after centuries of literal slavery and social engineering, can still be intact and even showing signs of healthy spiritual revival, I think there's reason to be optimistic.

>>21421596
Yes, the Sonnenrad was used by Nazi esoteric circles that have roots in theosophic racial theories that are not biologically reductive. The most famous theorist today of Hyperborean symbolism is Evola, and he devoted huge amounts of time and effort to debunking "scientific" racism (in the sense of materialist science, which is degenerate and anti-traditional) in favor of a spiritual consciousness of race.

>It is an exact science
According to what, the materialist paradigm? This kind of reductionism is why we're in the mess in the first place, it's the attempt to master and subdue the world via "technique" (Gestell). You even have an extremely un-fascist, un-Nazi, non-right conception of temporal "progress" in your post (being "ahead" of Africa) that is the calling card of the materialist atheist liberal worldview. This is what Evola tried to critique and help the Nazis purge from their worldview, this is why Heidegger also identified the Nazis as victims of the very Gestell they were originally trying to fight.

>> No.21421640

>>21421621
>Non-white immigrants built our railroads
They never plotted them, never designed them, never engineered them, they dug holes for skilled (typical Irish) Navies to build the railroads, they never did any sort of complex or responsible tasks. Blacks, browns and other unwelcome types were unable to fulfill this, the only ones that did where Chinese and they were used as dumb labor. The idea of long work lines with swinging hammers beating in unison and slave-songs is pure Hollywood fantasy.

>> No.21421656

>>21421640
>Nooooo it’s the people that plan the things who matters

Okay. Now admit the superiority of the Jewish race.

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>>21421624
This is more materialist progress worship. Even your points of reference are materialistic. Everything physical is a lower manifestation of a spiritual reality, and degraded and degrading physical conditions can reciprocally stunt or limit the proper awakening of spiritual faculties, thus causing further physical stunting reciprocally. There is no such thing as "IQ," the brain is not a bundle of wires and people are not soluble into competing alleles. Progress is not marked by technology, as should be proved by the fact that we are simultaneously the most technologically advanced and the most spiritually degenerate society in the entire history of the human race as we know it. That's a thought that should be genuinely frightening, we are in unprecedented waters here, something is clearly happening and even reaching its endpoint.
>He ought not to be, necessarily, blond and blue eyed: instead of being slender, he can also be mesocephalic and in some cases short statured: he'll show the same harmonic bodily proportions of the nordic man and through the features of a high-forehead, a more or less curved nose or a prominent jawbone, he'll give the same impression of an active, vigilant, ready to strike human type
(Evola)

>> No.21421659

>>21410306
I don't think books can cure such rot. Boy got mad and instead of doing something interesting with it he got POLITICAL.

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>>21410306
Oswald Spengler, unironically.
>Civilisation is just going through its natural lifecycle.
>Civilisation is not collapsing because of supposed subversive elements like the Jews.

>> No.21421693

>>21421656
Jews are the most feminine of all races, they are also the most materialistic. That is inferiority.

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>>21421634
>Yes, the Sonnenrad was used by Nazi esoteric circles that have roots in theosophic racial theories that are not biologically reductive.
No it fucking wasn't you half-baked mong. It was used as a justification for the superiority of Prussianism, they never having suffered serious, widespread uprisings from the bottom because they preceded massive changes that other societies like Russia, Britain, Spain and Greece would endure because they anticipated social reform and typically moved with it, sparing their elites from being hung, drawn and quartered. The last meaningful one being the Peasants Revolt which is commonly seen as the beginning of the Special Path which Germany trod.

Evola, Thule Society and associated theories is absolute horseshit. His hilarious 'debunking' of science with his own head canon mysticism proves nothing. He devoted huge amounts of time to essentially nothing, it is meaningless. The Perennialist school is utterly without value as nobody is quite able to point out what it is that makes a value or concept Traditional.

>According to what, the materialist paradigm?
According to the results put forth by the tests.

>You even have an extremely un-fascist, un-Nazi, non-right conception of temporal "progress" in your post (being "ahead" of Africa) that is the calling card of the materialist atheist liberal worldview.
I'm saving this. This is gold. But I will respond, if a people whom can not clean the water they drink, after thousands of years of existing on that soil, I will assume I am superior to them.

>
Okay. Now admit the superiority of the Jewish race.
The Ashkenazi are truly gifted in many domains, but I wonder what it is that made them so gifted? Could it be where they settled and mixed with native people of Das Land der Dichter und Denker? When people say Jews they do not mean the dozen or so other sub-groups of the Jew, they specifically mean the one with a great deal of Germanic admixture. Not the ones that bite the head of infants penis, nor the ones from Africa, or Latin America, or Spain, or the Russian Mountains, the Moroccan or any of the others. Those have contributed nothing to the advancement of the human race, the only ones that have are those from Germany, specifically those rare few who mixed fully with the people.

>>21421658
The reason Evola is worthless is he neglected the materialist world and was removed from it. Materialist possessions are worthless, materialist experiences and abstracts derived from them are priceless, honor, love, loyalty and valor.

>> No.21421704

>>21421609
You didn't sufficiently respond to my citing the Hart-Celler act and Cloward-Piven strategy, which go far beyond inevitable corruption or gerrymandering. They were acts of war against a people by a tiny minority within the already traitorous minority elite. You may personally feel they're a fait accompli, but that doesn't mean anything for people who refuse to accept them as such.

I agree with you about not punishing the individual for problems at the group level, but it is also not a necessary dogma that individuals can't be made to accept hard choices when the groups they are part of have been embroiled in social processes that, simply put, now only offer hard choices. If we suspend moral language and don't presume any dogmas as necessary, then both "Europeans accept multicultural societies they find dysfunctional and unlivable" and "Whites refuse to accept this, and propose a dialogue on reasonable incentives for non-Europeans to leave European countries" are on a level playing field. The fact that the latter would come as a big shock to minorities (now the majority) or that it would entail complications that are hard to imagine, doesn't mean anything necessarily, if the Europeans present at these negotiations regard the first option as equally insane.

From putting these things on the table, dialogue can ensue. The sooner we start that dialogue the better. If it gets started too late, like only because of an immediate crisis, it will just collapse into civil war and genocide. It's just like the Jewish question, the sooner Jews begin waking up to the fact that their status in European societies is problematic for Europeans, the sooner they can make intelligent if difficult decisions about renegotiating their status in those societies or leaving. That's better than the German solution which was the result of a sudden crisis. Before the war, the Nazis wanted Jews to just leave.

Economic reductionism is dangerous and is one of the dogmas that needs to be destroyed. If you believe it's a sacred doctrine that is fine, as long as you recognize you are just one more negotiator at the negotiating table, so someone who rejects it as a principle has equal say.

>> No.21421719

>>21421609
>Unfortunately for you, I am intelligent. If I don't sound it to you, you probably aren't. I have been open about being black from the beginning, so figuring that out is nothing special.
Wow, so my guess was correct, meaning i have correctly identified a certain subgroup of blacks who think they are intelligent but in reality are at the same level as average whites at best. You're like the one nigga in a white school who tries to be intelligent so he wears sweaters and glasses and reads shakespeare but doesnt understand it. You are at most IQ 105. Haha, JUST!

>> No.21421733

>>21421697
>The Ashkenazi are truly gifted in many domains
Still waiting for a great Jewish writer. Kek. Btw its the sephardics who are the most talented.

>> No.21421735

>>21421581
>many Black men and women living the lives of normal citizens - going to work, coming home, raising children, paying bills, and wishing for nothing, save peace, joy, and comfort in their daily lives - the same as everyone normal
They are conforming to European standards of civilisation, and are better off for it, at least in some observable way? I would agree, if that's what you're saying.

>> No.21421737

>>21421697
You should read Goodrick-Clarke's classic book on the subject. I'm rapidly losing interest in talking to you since you're a Discord Nazi who doesn't even know his own traditions.
>Einen wichtigen Einfluss auf die Gestaltung der Innenausstattung der Burg mit ihren meist pseudogermanisch anmutenden Zeichen, Ornamenten und Verzierungen soll der Okkultist und „private Magus“ Himmlers Karl Maria Wiligut gehabt haben.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarze_Sonne
>Ab 1908 soll er in Wien Kontakte mit völkischen und ariosophischen Kreisen und zu Mitgliedern des Lanzschen Neutemplerordens gepflegt haben.[4][5] Er stand der Edda-Gesellschaft nahe und schrieb unter dem Pseudonym Jarl Widar Gedichte für deren Widar-Hefte.[4] Wiliguts Ideen ähnelten jenen von Guido von List.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Maria_Wiligut

Never thought I'd see someone whose idea of being a Nazi is trying to resurrect the most vulgar aspects of the Rosenberg side of Nazism instead of the Heidegger and volkisch aspects, and then trying to fuse Rosenberg's vulgar racism with liberal secular science. Weird that you post someone who believed in the ideas you're denigrating. You really don't seem to know much about this beyond surface level associations typical of teenagers on Discord.

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>>21421689
This.
You can't make a chud a liberal or a leftist in the same way that you can't un-tell your kids that Santa isn't real. But you can get them to chill the fuck out a bit - if they've mistaken a few too many sewers for rabbit holes - and try to be a bit more sensible.

>> No.21421743

>>21410306
Anti-semitism is much like religion in the sense that its main purpose is to preserve a state of self-infantilization, so definitely pay them no mind.

>> No.21421745

>>21421697
>He devoted huge amounts of time to essentially nothing, it is meaningless.
>t. Never experienced his body of consciousness

>> No.21421749

>>21421743
>antisemitism
Shitty bait

>> No.21421759

>>21417084
He's such a goofy guy I can't help but like him

>> No.21421797

>>21421735
>they are conforming...are better off for it
Yes. This is a fully acceptable as truth to me.

>> No.21421804

>>21421719
*sigh* You can keep hoping for reality to align with your preferences, but it won't change a thing.

>> No.21421859

>>21421804
To the contrary, we have just seen that reality does align to my "preferences," since I accurately inferred that you were black before you even told me.

>> No.21421881

>>21421704
The real problem is your definition of Europeans is outdated, and the intermixing of the societies is as much an ethnically European responsibility as is the damage which is ongoing at the hands of Europe to third world countries in every brown corner of the world. The decision to intermix was, most often, a European one - even if only out of a utilitarian mentality. The minorities which are now wholly indigenous subgroups within white societies, are culturally and genetically distinct, not only from one another, but from those people living in the lands of their ancestors of how ever many hundred years ago. Expecting them to conform to the same societal expectations as you would whites is perfectly justifiable and laudable, but to expect them to uproot en masse and migrate to nations their forefathers have had no hand in for centuries would be as illogical as sending all the Germanic whites in Texas back to Germany and Switzerland, and it leaves no place for the many mixed families out there. I am 100% in favor of ethical, integritous, and clean standards of living and 100% opposed to ideological categorizations of men and women which reduce them to abstract caricatures, for the purpose of deluding ourselves into the belief we'll all be at peace and living jovially if only no one who looked any different than us were around. I accept that I am just one more voice at the table, but I reject that having an eye on economic factors in politics (two extremely interwoven domains) amounts to reductionism.

I suppose the best way to say it is this: I don't believe your dichotomized premises reflect reality. There are other choices. Europeans are not in a position where they must either accept dysfunction and misery, or oust the new neighbors. There is a future of peace and brotherhood which is fully attainable, and indeed is regularly attained on the individual level among men. It is only by forgetting this and getting lost in abstractions born of fear and too many disturbing Twitter clips, that we lose sight of the fact that the possibility of kinship between two men of difference, implies the certitude, but not the guarantee, of an attainable kinship between men of difference on every scale. I would rather err on the side of the optimist and loyal patriot, who would not negate the civic kinship of his neighbor on the basis of his abstract relationship to problem individuals.

An example, would be not considering all police officers to be dangerous and evil, simply because candid phone footage and body cams have revealed some to be. On the macroscopic, problem solving arena - might it mean imposing stricter penalties for officers who cross the line, or more stringent screening processes? Certainly. Would that be an inconvenience for the innocent officers? Of course it might, but the larger inconvenience would be either extreme negligence would create. I would elaborate, but I'm out of space.

>> No.21421884

>>21421859
If you had been unable to infer it, you would be retarded. It doesn't change anything else.

>> No.21421923

>>21421634
I can't speak for all blacks, but if I had to give the reason I am who I am it is very simple: I was raised as a Christian first, and an American patriot second. Race was almost never a concern. In fact, I little thought of it until 2020. This resulted in a comparative lack of a chip on my shoulder, and a more optimistic mentality towards my own personal future than a lot of blacks have. The third and most important reason is having become a Christian in earnest faith. I consider faith and culture, not race, to be the most important factor in determining the behavior of a generation - any generation - not to say the races are altogether indistinct, but that those distinctions are subordinated.

>> No.21422310

>>21421884
Why? You only said you were black after I already correctly inferred it.>>21421568

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Just ride the crocodile