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I would like to read about Caucasians from the Ozarks or bumfuck Alabama. What are some good books to learn about their culture?

>> No.21424435

>>21424402
Basically anything by William Faulkner

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>>21424402

>> No.21424468

>>21424402
>>21424435
Sound and the fury

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>>21424454
Ah yes the hillbillies of upland south asia

>> No.21424804

>>21424402
Southern Gothic writers like Faulkner and O'Connor are probably your best bet.

>> No.21424852

>>21424402
>bumfuck Alabama
My diary desu

>> No.21425005

>>21424852
Unironically publish it, I would like to hear about your life

>> No.21425036

>>21425005
Sad boring tale of poverty and family of career criminals Unironically
With neighbors that are either serial killers or unabomber types

>> No.21425076

>>21425036
right but did you touch your sister at all or anything?

>> No.21425083

>>21424402
My war gone by I miss it so is a great Bosnian story that ends in Grozny.

>> No.21425110

>>21425076
No
If you want an incest tale then read something else

>> No.21425140

>>21425036
That's not boring. To middle class city people and poors from other cultures you're describing an alien world. What is it like having a family of career criminals? What is rural poverty like?

>> No.21425144

>>21425076
Incest happens in Colorado

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>>21424402
This book was okay, but it's definitely an outsider's take.

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It's about a funny little guy, just existing and stuff

>> No.21425216

>>21425140
>What is it like having a family of career criminals?
You hardly ever see them and when you do you have to hide your shit around them
The cops use the Unabomber and drug dealer types as informants to arrest more
>What is rural poverty like?
Grim. Obesity caused by hyper-caloric foods that are cheap and very unhealthy, no prospects and most likely to fall into alcoholism and/or drug use to cope
Nevermind the fact most people here are borderline mentally deficient

>> No.21425250

>>21425149
yeah I was gonna recommend this, it gets cited in a lot of think tank reports on rural Americans

>> No.21425335

>>21424402
sadly can't think of any books but the first hour or two of the martyrmade episode on the american labor movement was interesting enough that i have to recommend it. it's practically a short audiobook.

>> No.21425400

>>21424454
Did you actually read it?
I read Seeing like a State, and it was rather boring.

>> No.21425608

>>21424402
Deliverance by James Dickey

>> No.21425613

>>21425250
Hahahaha

>> No.21425763

>>21424402
Good choice anon. I’d recommend Outer Dark, The Orchard Keeper, and Child of God (though they’re all extremely dark), heard Winter’s Bone is decent as well.

>> No.21426082

>>21425400
Yes I read it. Maybe delivered a bit dry, but I am interested in the material. Very eyeopening.
I found myself thinking of all the other places and times this kind of thing happens. THIS IS the human tendency. We may like to slip into a city for it's comforts and entertainments, but we most often find it grating and abominable. Hillbillies, rednecks, frontiersmen, Native Americans, tax dodgers, draft dodgers, prepers, anarchists. We want our freedom.

>> No.21426154

>>21424474

The principle is the same.

>> No.21426155

>>21425149

I really liked it. Vance has an interesting story, and very nuanced take.

But yes, he openly admits that he's not a true mountain man.

>> No.21426206

>>21425157
Outer Dark, The Orchard Keeper, even Suttree, would also be relevant to what OP’s looking for.

>> No.21426208

>>21424435
>>21424468
Sound and the Fury is more about rich (or formerly rich) southerners, As I Lay Dying is more about hillbillies.

>> No.21426261

>>21426208
Hill billies aren't generally the descendants of formerly rich southern families?

>> No.21426912

>>21426082
I like that he's an anarchist-leaning guy who's not just an edgy teenager inside nor trying to sell you some utopia based on vague and complicated theories. It makes his point of view interesting. What I didn't like in Seeing Like a State was how drily it was written (some chapters were written largely by collaborators). This is not a problem per se, but some chapters feel like well researched hardly-above-average undergrad papers, or rather academic papers that have been watered down because, you know, you can't really expect the reader to know basic milestones of history or basic concepts of communism.

I also liked this permanent feeling of "yeah, yeah, I'm kind of a Marxist, but let's not lose the topic at hand. You'll see at some point I'm not crazy.".