/lit/ - Literature

>1. Lots of politicking, and complex politicking at that.

You won't do it well. No one who knows anything about politics would ever say "politicking".

>2. Going for realistic military scenarios given the presence of magic, but don't want to bore the reader with too much tactics in their action.

By having magic in the setting you automatically negate every possible attempt to try and play it off realistically.

>3. Not sure about a few things. Tempted to throw in a Mongol Invasion a bit early, also tempted to throw in Vikings working in tandem with Elves as a major threat and warm up antagonist, but it seems a bit much.

>elves

>Ancient Rome into fantasy, not fantasy into the HRE.

how clever of you.

verdict: standard underage b& attempt to rip-off a fantasy setting and getting his jollies by talking about it instead of actually fucking off and just write the disgusting thing.

>>2150414

I take it we've butted heads before anon. Your vitriol amuses me.

>>2150417
He is right, though.

Back to structuring expressionengine for me.

>>2150422

That's like, your opinion man.

>>2150417
How the fuck would I know who you are? I've got forced anon. Are you that twelve year-old fag with a tumblr and that thread that won't die? Unless you've posted this shit before and I said the exact same thing, then no, I don't we've met.

Are you actually well read in regards to the HRE, Czarist Russia etc. or you just like all this shit based on some loose aesthetic idea with no real grounding?

>>2150414
Ha, I see your quality and ideas.

>>2150425
That's what you asked for when you posted this on /lit/, man.

>>2150426

If you're not a newfag, you'd know that I'm a college student working on an international relations degree and that as tripfags go I'm actually fairly tolerable given /lit/ standards.

Some newb advice: don't sage a thread you don't like while arguing. That just contributes to it by fueling an argument. Unless you're coming here to argue or get trolled might I recommend you reconsider your tactics?

>The premise is going back to a bit after the fall of Rome, but with magic
>I'm thinking about setting it in the Holy Roman Empire

mfw Rome fell in 426 and the HRE was created in 962.
500 years isn't a BIT after.

>>2150425
Let the nihilist's go fuck themselves. The world is beautiful and contradicts itself constantly.

>>2150428

Modestly familiar with both. My knowledge of Czarist Russia is mostly in the later periods, but the depth of my knowledge spikes around the time of Olga of Kiev and her campaigns.

As to the Byzantines though, I need to bone up a bit.

>>2150433
>If you're not a newfag, you'd know that I'm a college student working on an international relations degree and that as tripfags go I'm actually fairly tolerable given /lit/ standards.
>tripfag
>expecting everyone to know his life history just because he's a tripfag
>tolerable

Classic. I'll take a shot, capsguy?

I don't see any good reason not to sage, and erasing it is too much of an effort to be asked of me.

>>2150439

As history goes 500 is pretty short. However I'm extending the timeframe of Rome's decline by a hundred or two years and having the HRE emerge another hundred or so years early.

>>2150442

Nope. This is the only trip I go by on /lit/. You complete me sagefag.

>>2150444
I love you too anon. I just hate your stupid fucking story idea. And the fact that you're talking about it instead of writing.

>>2150448

Who says there isn't an open word document on my computer right now? Can you see into my apartment?

>>2150451
You've got seven or eight posts in a ten-minute window, and whatever written in two-minute installments is bound to be shit by lack of flow. We both know you're not, anyway.

>>2150460

You amuse me greatly. Your inexplicable vitriol is marked even on a site that hosts conversations between touchy and passive aggressive anonymous nerds. Can you show me on the doll where life touched you?

>>2150451
Serious question: why are you feeding him? Shitheads like that are only validated by your reactions. There's nothing you can say that will initiate an actual conversation with the guy, so ignore him. As for your story concept, it could be promising. I'm iffy about elves, but maybe you won't go the traditional route with them.

>>2150462
I'm not that guy, but you're coming off really arrogant. It doesn't win too many friends, arrogance.

>>2150451
>>2150451

>Who says there isn't an open word document on my computer right now? Can you see into my mother basement?

Fixed it for you.

>>2150462
>inexplicable

It's extremely explicable.

>Can you show me on the doll where life touched you?

In the boredom gland, between my taint and my asshole.

>>2150451
>open word document

Is the fantasy setting for a book so as to serve as a backdrop against which the heros act out their troubles?
Because I can't imagine that it would work for a book.

>>2150414
>>2150426
>>2150430
>>2150442
>>2150448
>>2150460
Confirmed for angsty wannabe writer struggling with material, so he comes here to let off steam by trolling.

>>2150468
It doesn't amuse me either, but i understand the appeal and the foolish draw.

>>2150476
Don't call she a he. Very wrong.

>>2150476
Oh, come on.

>>2150476
Close enough, I'll take it.

>>2150476
>>2150484
welp

>>2150478
>gets called a scrub
>corrects gender

>>2150480
>defending the troll trolling you
Dumbass.

>>2150485
That wasn't me. That faker didn't sage.

>>2150493
your beautiful. off to my onions on the stove and my bunny book. thank you again OP.

>>2150464

Mostly my own amusement.

As to elves, changing from the typical concept: their military is lackluster, they aren't great at the setting's magic, but what they do have is a fairly decent diplomatic corp and a very good intelligence agency.

Also if you haven't figured it out by now this is a communal trip, hence >>2150480

>>2150520
Then, by all means, amuse yourself further without letting us know.
I was asking this, because, as implied, I can't imagine this to be interesting enough to serve as a backdrop to a book.

And if it just and only would serve as a means to entertain your mind, I'd like you to keep your masturbations to yourself in the future and not trying to coax /lit/ into giving you a mental handjob.

>>2150527

Mhm...

>>2150534
My apologies for adding another post, but why on earth did you start this thread in the first place?
Apparently you didn't want any help or feedback at all, so why start it, indeed?

This just sounds like a shit version of The Foundation. If you admit you have no grasp on politics, why would you want to write about the downfall of the Roman Empire? I don't think it's a very good idea for a book anyway.

>>2150542

You have offered neither help nor feedback.

>>2150547

Said no such thing. I suspect much of this thread is samefagging by one really desperate guy.

>>2150520
>communal trip

These exist? The fuck is the point?

>>2150549

It goes back a ways. I suspect that since this trip is ridiculously easy and intuitive that this anon isn't privy to it, it's just ridiculously easy to crack. Which is funny since that's a lot of effort for trolling.

>>2150555
But why use a communal trip in the first place? Why not just use anon? WHY WHY WHY

>>2150556

That's the point in and of itself.

I really hope this is a troll thread. Imagine if you put Modern america into a world with elves, mongol invasions, Charlemagne, enlightenment-period Britain and 'magic' (and i do hope you have a system for that). This is basically an equivalent in terms of historical gaps.

In short, i think you have a wild imagination, but no sense of history or sensibility.

tl;dr This is a shitload of fuck.

>elves

>>2150589
Set it in Ireland and make the elves Irish. They're all a bunch of silly Leprechauns anyways. Plenty of untapped myth and legend there. As well the viking invaded there anyways.

Ah well. I knew /lit/ didn't like actual projects, that's the way it's always been.

>>2150594
I'd wager you'd have better luck on /tg/.

>>2150594
don't you dare make this an 'actual project' or we may well hate them.

>>2150594
'Actual project' or poorly fleshed out generic fantasy?

Elves work if it's a fantasy world. You could even setup something where mythology is more present so creatures from Elfheim or whatever it's called in Norse Mythology.

As for the concept of magic and Empire Rome, I can dig it. I'd like to see a fight where a legion does the tortoise shield technique to stand against magic. So many boners.

Love to spitball this with you, since i'm crafting my own fantasy world as well. Nothing based on the past, completely different.. world.. universe, what have you.

Give ancient Rome an Anal Cannon for the battle sequences.

>>2150688

That was originally why I put them in Scandanavia, yup.

The idea behind the world's magic is that it is a fundamentally complex system that people are learning to innovate and develop along same as technology that seems to be influenced greatly by culture.

For instance, the Rome stand in was very good at nullifying magic before countering with conventional and magical strikes at enemy weaknesses.

The Byzantines went more in the "Nullify everything, respond with conventional force" direction and swallowed a big part of Persia. The HRE stand in has less nullification and more flexible specialist magic. Czarist Russia stand in has a new thing going for them, not sure what it is just yet.

>>2150697

Just for you, can do.

>>2150706
That sounds pretty awesome, actually. What's your basis for the story besides the conflict of this world? MC's journey and all that jazz.

>>2150723

I'm thinking I'll have an omniscient narrator split between a diplomatic envoy to Scandanavia, a minor noble in the East of the HRE, and one of the nation's sovereign's, preferably the most active one, so I'll probably have someone like Olga of Kiev as a protagonist.

Also on Md 20/20 right now.

All of this is just a setting. Your book actually has to be about something.

Your setting is utter shite from historical perspective. Do your fucking homework. Read that Wells' book on world history or Creveld or a school history course.
I also find your idea for a setting incredibly boring and generic, created by a person heavily influenced by computer games.
But I dislike fantasy as a genre anyway, unless it's fairytaleish.