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21506640 No.21506640 [Reply] [Original]

What’s the deal with abortion from a US constitutional standpoint?

>> No.21506656

>>21506640
The deal is it isn't really addressed one way or another by the constitution.
So it actually makes sense that the issue be handled on a state level.

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>> No.21506664

>>21506640
its weird because it fundamentally is about a question of personhood and potentiality of personhood as well as religious and conceptual beliefs of what constitute that.

>> No.21506666

>>21506640
What’s with the pol bait thread?
It’s not a hard concept. All you have to do is read the synopsis of a book like this to get it. A review maybe. Or get crazy and read the whole thing.
To them life of a sperm is supreme. Man is over woman, including rapists and incestuous fathers. And once they’re born, don’t go asking for government assistance, life is worthless once you’re born. Angel counts for god is all they’re concerned with.
Okay I bit your bait.

>> No.21506668

Roe v. Wade hinged on precendent that was a misinterpretation of an amendment. So, it was no longer valid when revisited. That's it.

There's nothing preventing a new Roe v. Wade-type of ruling as long as it has sound precedent.

>> No.21506671

>>21506640
The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights don't regulate abortion, nor give out a rights framework that could be used to do so. Being that the case, the jurisdiction to regulate abortion befalls on the legislative houses of the States.
I do support abortions, however. And eugenics.

>> No.21506674

>>21506668
Ur talking about Griswold? Can u explain the misinterpretation?

>> No.21506842

>>21506666
>post so evil it ends in 666

Life begins at conception, cope baby killer

>> No.21506847

>>21506842
Sperm aren’t babies

>> No.21507145

>>21506666
Nice try at steering us away from the path of God, Satan.

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>>21506640
>>21506668
>>21506671
>>21506674
It was decided based on the commerce clause or some shit. Their penumbra found a right to privacy written in invisible ink on the back of the constitution.

States should decide their own abortion laws, and a whole bunch of other laws, but they don't.

>> No.21507723

>>21506656
/thread

>> No.21507726

>>21506656
wrong the constituion makes it quite clear that there are unenumerated rights, just because the constitution doesnt mention something explicitately doesnt mean it is not our right.

>> No.21507795

>>21507726
>just because the constitution doesnt mention something explicitately doesnt mean it is not our right

typed like a true leftist

health care is totally a "right"
free $$ is totally a "right"
free housing is totally a "right"

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>> No.21507875

>>21506640
The constitutional standpoint is the standpoint of those whose job it is to determine that, the Supreme Court. So the constitutional standpoint is to kick that particular can down the road and occasionally putting on a dog and pony show so legislators can act like they are trying but ultimately just ignoring it all because no one wants to deal with that mess and the resultant shit storm any actual ruling would end in.

>> No.21507956

>>21507726
So is the right to abortion an unenumerated right, or is the right to life an unenumerated right?

>> No.21507976

>>21507956
Doesn't matter. Whichever one is real is left to the states.

>> No.21507980

>>21507726
that would make sense, if there were federal laws already regulating abortions

>> No.21508075

>>21506674
>>21506668

Summary of the analysis in the main part of the Dobbs decision, which overturned Roe v Wade. This is a quote from what's called the "syllabus," a very carefully prepared (by Court personnel) but non-binding summary of the Court's opinion:

The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That provision has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition” and “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.”

The right to abortion does not fall within this category.

Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy.

>> No.21508100

>>21506640
Whores want to kill their kids. We shouldn't let them. It's like giving a child a loaded pistol.