/lit/ - Literature

>>21622765
if you're over 13 year old you should not be reading it
it's literally written for children

>>21622822
The Lord of the Rings was also written for children, are you gonna say it's also bad?

>>21622765
>>21622822
They're not EXCLUSIVELY for children anymore after the 2nd book.

>>21622834
Yeah, is for adults without a brain.

>>21622833
It shouldn’t be your favourite book if you’re over 13 and if you didn’t read it for the first time as a child then it’s too late. LotR isn’t even the best children’s lit that’s out there, it’s popularity centres on delusional faux-conservative man children

>>21622765
They didn’t change, it’s always been mediocre children’s fiction, not even kino children’s lit like the wind in the willows

>>21622878
>LOTR's popularity centres on delusional faux-conservative man children

The fuck you on about, retard?

>>21622978
Sorry I should say “it’s popularity in online literary discourse centres around etc etc.” Because it does, the greatest proponents of the book act like it’s some epic masterpiece comparable to the Iliad or the odyssey when it’s actually a language professors nice magical realm adventure story

Pretending that Harry Potter is significantly lower level than anything else is pretending to be stupid.
It has its faults, but Rowling is accomplished enough as an author that she makes it work.
The books are second-rate, which is still vastly superior to most literature. And if trannies have latched onto the books as some sort of safety blanket, what do I care?

>>21622765
there are series rewrites that are better

J K Rowling has done irreparable damage to western literature. Over 20 years later and every faggot agent and publisher is still desperately searching for the next Harry Potter cash cow.

And let's not forget that before the whole world went insane for trannies, J K Rowling was a virtue signaling redditor changing Dumbledore's sexuality to score progressive points with the public.

>>21622765
I mean if the bank goblins who literally had a star of david on their floor didnt give it away haha

>>21622765
J.K. Rowling needs to come out with another sequel where Dobby and all the freed House Elfs end up creating subversive mischief in the wizarding world because they are envious of normal wizards

>>21623067
Rowling is just "sweet naive mom" liberal who thinks that it's unfair how they treat that poor black man etc. She's harmless.

>>21623102
Yeah she likes dealing with envy with Petunia and Snape, that's her wheelhouse. Maybe she could make the house elf envy thing work too

>>21622833
No, LOTR wasn't written for children. The Hobbit was written for children, LOTR and The Silmarillion were t written for adults.

>>21623067
>J K Rowling was a virtue signaling redditor changing Dumbledore's sexuality to score progressive points with the public.
Is he a hetero again now that she hates trannies?

>>21622765
>>21623162
Dumbledore is a pedophile

>>21622765
The first four books? Sure.
Everything else? Nah.

>>21622978
>The fuck you on about, retard?
>t. delusional faux-conservative man child

>>21623177
What's wrong with books 5, 6 and 7?

>>21622765
don't say "Voldemort" or else your phone will instantly be recorded by the nsa

>>21622765
shit cover there werent this many blacks and asians in the books

>>21623195
Schizo.

>>21622765
Why would a high school put kids to fight against a grown dragon in their olympic games?

>>21623201
because it's entertaining?

>>21622822
>>21622867
>>21622878
Pseud mentality. You're not in a position of telling me what I should enjoy and what not, nigger. Go back to wageslaving every second of your life in your adult world instead of dwelling on anime website forum.
>>21622765
It's a fun series with it's own faults. A lot of more serious issues like politics, slavery, racism are infantilized, the world-builiding is basicallly non-existent and a lot of characters are so one-dimensional that it hurts at moments, because J.K. Rowling is simply not a best writer. Did I have fun with it though? Yes. I've enjoyed this series the same way I've enjoyed JJBA for all of it's inconsistencies and bullshit writing. It's a fun series about magic world from the perspective of teenagers. I would treat more like delving into the minds of said teenagers being the cause of the world feeling so simplified
Don't be like a tranny video essayist youtubers making 2h "deep dives" noticing obvious references to jews or seething about kids acting like a kids, or like "mature" retards who read Nietzsche once and now dismiss all the other literature because they've "grown out" of it.
If you want to read something fun and easy, then HP is a very good choice IMO

>>21623137
good point!

>>21623201
Survival of the fittest.

>>21623201
Why did high school allow my monster cock

>>21623207
>having standards is pseud mentality
Gatekeeping hasn’t been strong enough in years to keep you faggots out

>>21623087
That wasn't JK Rowling; that is the actual floor of the Australia House, the bank that they used for Gringotts.

>>21623207
>Pseud mentality. You're not in a position of telling me what I should enjoy and what not, nigger.
Hey genius, you can like this shit meanwhile you inject some rugs on your body, this is your problem, not mine, but if you do not watch the truth, you are still a mere pleb.

If Harry Potter is for adults, then the Kamasutra is for children.

>>21623415
Your standards are shit. You can keep them to yourself, pseud
>>21623483
>missing the point
>false comparison
yeah, /lit/ at it's full intellectual capacity

>>21623162
>she hates trannies

She has donated to trans charities and supports calling them by their preferred pronouns. The funny thing about all of this is that she's way more progressive on this issue than 99% of the general public. Really shows that the left will not tolerate even the mildest dissent.

harry potter is obviously anglophone trash. yuck cover to cover.
does no one in your life not love you enough to recommend a real book?

>>21623641
Wtf are you talking about? She uses her fortune to literally support anti-trans groups and even wrote a book where a trans character was the villain.

>>21623759
>She uses her fortune to literally support anti-trans groups
Shitty human.

>>21622833
The lord of the rings and the Hobbit were written to be read to children, not for children to read themselves. It's quite apparent from the style of narration.

>>21623186
I haven't read the books, and I'm not a Harry Potter fan.
But when I was a kid, I remember the first 4 movies being good and the rest being boring as fuck. And by boring as fuck I mean something unwatchable.

>>21623067
>Over 20 years later and every faggot agent and publisher is still desperately searching for the next Harry Potter cash cow
Every business wants to find success, Anon. Especially in the declining arts

>>21624691
the 4th one is arguably the worst movie though
well the 5th is probably the worst but 4th is definitely 2nd worst

>>21624731
IMDB says otherwise

>>21624762
3 > 4 > 2 > 7 > 6 > 5 > 1

>>21622765
The first three tell a nice, complete story that I think most anyone can enjoy. After that, it's just an increasingly strident Guardian reader ginning up teen drama.

>>21624784
I don't remember 1, so I agree

I've started reading them last week
I'm currently halfway through Goblet of Fire and I've enjoyed the series a lot especially as someone who has seen the films a lot
Also an MtF I bought the books at a charity shop and read the third book on archive so I don't give the author any money
The books just make so much more sense than the films do, I think the films still do stand on their own but idk, after reading the book it's a bit frustrating
I felt the same after watching Dune and then reading it
I think they're worth reading if you want some quick fun

>>21622765
Enders Game ripoff

>>21624855
>I think they're worth reading if you want some quick fun
...

>>21622833
Uh yeah

>>21624955
What's wrong with what I said?
>>21624953
>As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character stretched his legs’. I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous
I was a bit confused by this
I only remember it occurring once with Vernon

>>21622765
Yes, especially pic related

>>21622883
Fuck off back to Hell, Harold Bloom.

>>21623207
>the world building is basically non-existent
What? The world building is the series' greatest strength.

>>21623429
That's weird. Why would there be a star of David in the floor of the bank??? >>21623759
>>21624389
lol, what "anti trans groups" are you retards talking about?

>>21625175
Because Jews were historically pushed out of every profession except banking

>>21622765
i bought all the books and films when rowling came out as based to make the leftists seethe
haven't read them yet

They are quality for what they are. The biggest asset they have is how "readable" they are. They flow really well.

>>21625610
>t.

>>21625641
When I was in Chicago I thought to myself that I should do that. I heard a lot of thing about Chicago but I've never been there myself. But also I forgot and then some things happened but that doesn't matter, so how do I do that?

>>21625672
u wot

>>21625681
How does one write more legibly so as to induce such "flow" as the previous speaker kindly brought up?

>>21625695
Mike Wasowski

>>21623623
I see you can read only Harry Potter.

>>21627163
no?

>>21623207
just look at that smug WHORE
why is she so smug?

>>21624784
nah 3>2>7>4>1>6>5

>>21627194
If Harry Potter is for adults, The Illiad is for children.

On 4chan people are too genius to understand a simple line.

>>21627219
the iliad is unironically shounen manga tier

>>21627219
what the fuck is that comparison? These are two different books? Harry Potter is mostly adressed to children/young adult, while the Illiad is mostly for grown men, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy both???

>>21622765
Why would my opinion of the book change? I'm not a directionbrained moron that cares about what the author says

>>21627245
Dear genius, you can read Harry Potter and do everything you want, but Harry Potter is not for adults, The Illiad is for adults. Thematic.

The death eaters seem the villain of Home Alone, or do they seem the characters of The Illiad...

A young adult book doesn't mean that is an adult book.

>>21627280
I would never read a YA book as an adult, i made a point about the retarded reality tv show called politics and those that center their entire being around it

>>21627291
The wit that just rolls off this place.

>>21622765
It's not some great work of literature and has damaged the reading habits of a whole generation who could never outgrow it, but it's pretty imaginative and comfy. I was never a big fan, but I get why people like it. It's just a good setting for escapism.

>>21622765
>She's not a good writer
Woke nonsense. Her writing is designed to be read by children. Her worldbuilding and story also make it appealing for adults
>if you buy her game, you're directly funding her anti-trans rhetoric
Great, I'll buy it twice.

>>21624448
I read it aloud with my mother when I was 9 or 10, each of us taking turns to read a chapter. I have since read it to my eldest kid. It is very good to just read the thing, but to read it aloud lets you realise that it is a masterpiece. As others have said, if you are over the age of 14 or so it shouldn't really be your favorite book, but to even speak of it as though it is on a similar level to Potter is absurd.

I read only a few books out of order but my impression was that there are some nice characters or at least character ideas like Sirius but the actual majority of the story was just okay to me way way back when I read it

>>21624706
>Every business wants to find success, Anon. Especially in the declining arts
Almost every film of success is based on superheroes and "copy and paste" without sense, just to make money, and this is a successful artist. I prefer declining arts that live of time and not around 100 years, and yes, each film made in 1900 is for a few fans, a few on a large number, then only sold nearly 1% of all the modern watchers.
>>21627415
> Her writing is designed to be read by children. Her worldbuilding and story also make it appealing for adults
Adults who watch Peppa Pig.

>>21627221
based and retarded

>>21622765
Kids books. Safe setting. Superficial and poorly written. Dont waste your time.

>>21622765
What happened between 3rd book and 4rd book? Style changed quite bit.

It's Rick and morty 20 year ago.
World is so whacky and random. With full of crazy stuff.

>>21627778
Probably the editors stepping back. The books got much longer starting there.

>>21627787
Or ghost writer.
You didn't see that kinda thing when GRR editor walked away. Quality went down. But style didn't change bit

>>21627799
I don't think it was a ghost writer. I think she just switched gears for a growing (ageing) audience.

Harry Potter was refused many times first it was published.

>>21622765
Movies are done well-enough with some of the most well-placed casting ever. I don't think you should waste time on the books. It will never be the same as reading them when you are 8-10 y/o.

>>21622765
I am going to be absolutely honest with you:
J. K. Rowling is of female biological sex.
I do not trust women to be able to entertain me in any way that doesn't involve my genitals.

Harsh, yes, but the investment into the series constitutes thousands of pages and I don't want to make a bad investment.

>>21627866
And were they punished for this? No. Makes you wonder what else they've let slip through their fat little fingers.

>>21622765
They're good to read when you're learning a new language

>>21628629
Garbage but money, and in this society money is all. Money had more value than think.

>>21628616
>8 year old armless emma watson in a miniskirt
what is wrong with you

>>21628964
This. It was a huge step for my English reading skills. Something about reading a full novel, even a children book with realatively simple language, is so different than reading a bunch of short articles (or forum posts lol). Currently going through it in French. Le goblet of le fire is waiting for me.

>>21624953
omg i completely forgot I've read Enders Game. What a useless forgettable book!

>>21624983
>I was a bit confused by this
>I only remember it occurring once with Vernon
He was memeing.

>>21629057
He has a healthy sex drive.

>>21622765
It's a good children's series.

>>21629065
Yeah, I read them first as a kid and again last autumn in German. Goblet is the best one imo

>>21622765
>Is Harry Potter actually good?
For a children's book, it is.

>>21622765
It's alright. She gets into her stride only by the third one. Fifth one is the best, with some compelling insight into teenage angst, and I like a couple of passages about grief in the following books.
Can't say how it compares to other fantasy or children lit as I have not read that much of either but I'd say they are a cozy mostly harmless read and I can see how someone growing up with them would feel a strong attachment to them
Worst you can say about them is that she is a really mediocre plotter and the world building leaves much to be desired as well if you car about that kind of thing

>>21627744
>Adults who watch Peppa Pig.
It's closer to adults who watch anime