/lit/ - Literature

No,it only made me chastitypilled and nofappilled.

>>21780350
If your sex life decline because of you reading philosophy, but you are no actual philosopher, then your sex life status is your own fault, loser.

>>21780636
Based gif, wtf is that

>>21780350
It hasn't started yet and I already read philosophy.

>>21780350
>be me
>16
>asking girls out
>getting "no"s but at least asking
>decide to study philosophy at uni bc idk kinda interested
>became a full-term hermit
>not asked out any girls since school
>actually somehow managed to avoid interacting with any women irl, other than family members, for about 14 months now

in a way, OP, in a way

>>21780350
Well before I read philosophy I had sex with a 14 year old, and then I started reading philosophy at around age 16

>Being about to have sex
>Have a penis with phimosis and
>Avoid embarrassment and leave

>>21780636
Sex and philosophy are incompatible and all philosophers of note led chaste lives and viewed sex and masturbation as impediments to mastery of the mind and inferior sensual forms. Kill yourself you reddit ESL pop philosophy nigger.

>>21780350
never had one to begin with

It never even began for most of us

>>21781143
cope and seethe, virgin

>>21780350
>objective negation leads to subjective synthesis
There's a higher and lower self, and gaining coherence with the higher entails increasing the cleavage between the two.

>>21781185
Depraved ape

>>21780711
don't know whether it's from a certain season or a movie, but those are third gen Pokemon (from Pokemon Sapphire, Ruby, and Emerald, if you don't know). the ballerina one is kirlia and the wolf one is mightyena

>>21782615
imagine coping this hard, how are there actually people who think that sex is "depraved"

>>21782687
It's nothing but cope, the incels have to attach themselves to certain ideas to justify why they don't fuck.

Sex is monkey bullshit bro

Empedocles - no kids, an hero
Heraclitus - no kids
Silenus - no kids
Parmenides - no kids
Plato - gay nigga
Epicurus - no kids
Epictetus - no kids
Seneca - no kids, an hero
Buddha(not Siddhartha) - no kids
Bodhidharma - no kids
Nagarjuna - no kids
Jesus - no kids
Abhinavagupta - no kids
Shankaracharya - no kids
Mani - no kids
Al-Kindi - no kids
Al-Farabi - no kids
Averroes - no kids
Avicenna - no kids
Aquinas - no kids
Spinoza - no kids
Kant - no kids
Pascal - no kids
Leibniz - no kids
Hume - no kids
Kierkegaard - no kids
Fourier - no kids
Schopenhauer - no kids
Stirner - no kids
Mainländer - no kids, an hero
Nietzsche - no kids
Weininger - no kids, an hero
Michelstaedter - no kids, an hero
Spengler - no kids
Wittgenstein - gay nigga
Zapffe - no kids
Weil - no kids
Evola - no kids
Arendt - no kids
Beauvoir - no kids
Sartre - no kids
Debord - no kids, an hero
Caraco - no kids, an hero
Cioran - no kids
Althusser - no kids
Kripke - no kids
Feyerabend - no kids
Foucault - gay nigga
Kaczynski - no kids
Gray - no kids
Land - no kids
Kastrup - no kids
Brassier - no kids
Benatar - no kids
Thacker - no kids

>>21782687
Probably by simply noticing the fact that sex is basically animalistic, and human beings are the only creature which is capable of rising above animality.

>>21782844
This list says kids is bullshit not sex is bullshit.

if you can't convert schopenhauer's psychological and sex-metaphysical observations and conclusions into pua-skills, you're ngmi

>>21782844
Also I'm sure Land has some hapa kids

>>21782849
That happens if you're a volcel or incel

>>21782853
Some fag said that without any source except that you le psychopaths will abuse that info.

>>21782851
Teach me thy wisdom, O Wise one

>>21780350
No. If anything, it's been more robust. I love fucking a woman who is ignorant. She may be a "feminist" and college educated, even smart amongst her peers, but compared to me, she has a child like grasp of intellectual history and thought. I feel like our ancestors must have, when women were still forced to remain indoors and see after the house and did not know any better but to do so.

>>21782844
>Feyerabend - no kids
Fake. He was impotent after being shot in WW2

>>21783268
Do you talk to them about philosophy?

>>21783302
Bullshit and an easy lie on his behalf. A charismatic big brained philosopher like him could have made a whole football team if he wanted that.

>>21782679
Call me autistic, but I know it's from the Jirachi movie.

>>21780350
No it allowed me to bag so many bpd arthoes that I went celibate for a decade and counting out of exhaustion.

The older I get the more I realise that ascetics are just the wisest of hedonists.

>>21782844
>4channers comparing themselves to buddha or jesus

No but I started reading philosophy since my sex life declined massively.

>>21783899
Teach me thy wisdom, O wise one

>>21780350
Is this schoppy rare?

It's kind of correlated yeah, i often wonder if i would have hated men quite as much if i never had opened a book in my life. My libido is extremely low, but it feels great, although quite isolating, to avoid the terrible fate of enduring the natural dynamics of sex. There's really no way to have sex that isn't in some way a violence for us women, and i could never accept it. Most women learned to love the violence, and by that i'm not saying that they don't enjoy and crave it, they mostly do. I don't. I guess i'm not enough of an animal, but i don't take pride in it, it's not necessarily a positive thing.

>>21780350
If your sex life doesn't improve after reading philosophy then you are doing it wrong. I suggest you read poetry, it can help too

>not reading taoist sexual alchemy
Ishiggydiggy

>>21782844
Plato condemned homosexuality in Laws. He was not a homosexual.

>>21782851
>the devils laughter is heard after copulation
You didn't read Schope. You read cope.

>>21784294
>>21784334
>see above, filtered by inability for tantric orgasm

>>21782853
Nick Land works in China but his wife is from England and she is the most Jewy looking Jew outside of Tel Aviv. Someone posted her pic before.

>>21784320
Plato had boyfriends according to Diogenes Laertius.

>>21782687
I have had sex more times than you can count and it’s overrated. It’s sad that modern society attach so much value to sex. All sex is depraved unless you intend to procreate.

>>21781143
>poor reading comprehension
>calling others niggers
reading philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher. the philosopher at least is justified in the ascetic ideal by their own independence of thought. you're just reading books as an excuse for your own shortcomings. you are no master of mind if you are here.

Kant is a philosopher, all philosophers are virgins, therefore Kant is a virgin. you however, are just a virgin.

>>21781143
>Sex and philosophy are incompatible
Every Epicurean disagrees. Furthermore, what would be the purpose of life, or indeed all conceivable existence, if not to enjoy it, or learn to enjoy it even more than you currently do? Sex = fun and pleasure. Why should philosophers have a problem with fun and pleasure? And as is pointed out in pic related, why should an afterlife realm not be maximally geared toward joy, fun, and enjoyment?

This whole "sex = bad" dogma is a religious leftover from paranoid sheepherders of ancient times. But as NDErs often say, there is nothing wrong with and no divine judgement from having a healthy sex life and enjoying life's pleasures and fun activities. We are here to be human and have fun with it, not be terrified of our genitals and the pleasure they generate. And NDEs are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die, and that life is like a video game or a simulation and you actually chose to come here, and that the meaning of life is to learn to love and be kind and thrive here despite how hard it is in this world.

Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.

Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.

>>21784147
>There's really no way to have sex that isn't in some way a violence for us women
Counterpoint: pegging, face-sitting.

>>21784231
What philosophers do you read bro?

There is no real reason sex and philosophy should be incompatible. But in practice, pursuing philosophy is really about trading away smaller, temporal pleasures for lasting ones. And sex is the most temporal pleasure. It feels amazing, but has an immense cost of time and money. Most men after age 12 are always thinking about sex to some degree. It's a pursuit in itself -- and men can only have so many pursuits.

It's easy to meme about, but I think philosophers eschew sex for the same reasons monks do: They're incompatible lifestyles. To understand life, it requires some distance from it, to act like an ascetic. And philosophers generally do live like ascetics.

I have no sex life, and all the philosophy I read is from Wikipedia and this site. And I don't care

>>21784515
Sex is bad. There is no afterlife. NDEs are either fabrication or the brain losing oxygen or releasing DMT. If you think NDEs mean there is a heaven and sex is le good, then you need an actual lobotomy.

>>21782844
I don't get people who think everything is set in stone when it comes to the mind. Sex is a distraction if anything. I don't give a fuck how good it feels. You can't have a great mind and be a full intellectual if you always empty your balls and have women on your mind, end of story. You achieved nothing even if you fucked all you want your whole life, but I can understand an atheist not having this view, I can see the yolo aspect of having as much fun before you die as possible, so I don't bother to argue with these people because it's clear they just want to have a good time first of all things, so why bother? Your list, along with seeing how most sex addicts are plain stupid people with zero achievments, convinces me hedonism is not the way. But I have nothing against people who are here purely for a good time, that's what I'm saying, I can understand that's what you go for when you belive you only live once.

>>21782687
Sexual acts including masturbation are depraved and turns a man into a sensual beast trapped to flesh and serving its desires.

What is the philosophy called for when you really hate the world? Like you're not even mentally ill but you're so fed up with existing on this earth. Fed up to the BRIM of these people and how the world works, I unironically want to prove to whatever god created me that I truly want out and despise being here, by quitting everything. I am not indulging in anything anymore to prove my creator i don't belong here and not for the world would I wanna come back here in my next life.

>>21784792
Nihilism or pessimism

>>21784777
Same as literature. When you read books you get pleasure, you get addicted to it, you know more and more, you forget most of shit you read but never stop, just one last book, last fucking book I swear.

>>21784515
kys

>>21780350
Nietzsche’s view on life actually improved my sex life, he is someone who actually convinced me to try living life in its full potential, which includes the risk of both success and failure. I started approaching women and some of them have fallen for me.

>>21780350
Why is everyone so fucking stupid now? If you have sex good, if you don't, just do something and think of something else, what the fuck is this incel desperate shit? Just let go of the idea you're gonna get laid dumbasses, it's not gonna happen, stop suffering over it it's a pathetic sight.
>Yes I live in perpetual suffering. Yes I will not kill myself. Any questions?
This should be you. Damn I wish self respect was still a thing, we would avoid so many incel crybabies.

>>21780350

>>21784515
>i want pleasure what's wrong with fun and pleasure
How does a "straight" man ever say this without feeling like a massive faggot?

>>21780350
Schopenhaur is for incels.

>>21784850
Ok Der Coomermensch.

>>21784815
Everything may be pleasure, but all kinds of pleasure are flawed, so pick your poison.

All the acts required for short term sexual encounters are embarrassing if you keep developing yourself in accordance with your age, be that through professionalism, philosophy, spirituality, artistically, etc. I am 33 and I manage lots of 20 year olds that regularly participate in orgies and have sex with eachother/ other people. I am discerning marriage and now regularly attend Mass. I can safely say that having once behaved that way myself I have zero envy or nostalgia for these kids. If I could do my twenties over again, I would’ve opted for a more chaste and marriage-focused with my faith front and center than all the time wasted dancing like a chimp and snorting drug cocktails so I could rub my body against another stranger’s body parts.

Even more “adult” casual hookups that happened in my mid- and late- twenties were huge time-wasters, and since we were on the surface more sophisticated and mature than chimp-dancing early twenty-somethings there was almost a direct correlation of the amount of drama involved.

When I was 12 and discovered porn, I remember thinking it was heaven. At 33 I shudder at the thought of pornography as pure hell and would genuinely rather someone drive a nail through my foot than the wretched existence of being addicted to it.

My point is that if philosophy has reduced your sex life, it might be a positive if you reflect on what your sex life was. Unless you’re married, but then the problem probably isn’t philosophy.

>>21784922
I thought zoomers were virgins not having orgies.

>>21784936
Lmao yeah bro belive any stupid study you read. The world is full of porn addicts you think any shame exists anymore (i mean in girls having threesomes and foursomes and letting themselves be filmed and such). Aint no way that's why incels hurt, sex became as non taboo as saying hello but if you're ugly you only fucking your hand

>>21784922
You have a point. Except for the most attractive men, getting women is sort of like being a circus animal. You spend all your money, time, and resources overall trying to get one, and more trying to keep her. Women in their 20s have insane power over men, it's frightening. If you can skip this process, all the better.

>>21784958
All the zoomers I know are socially awkward an almost asexual.
Millenials were peak coomers.

Engaging in hook-up culture is one of the most self-humiliating things someone could ever do to himself. It's bad enough for unattractive people, who can hardly do it successfully anyways, but it is even more strange to see highly attractive and full of self-esteem people, doing this to themselves, it is as if the entire facade of their fake personality falls off when they get a chance to persuade the person of their choice - for sex. This highly homosexual behaviour is almost single-handedly responsible for the degeneracy of the West.

>>21785031
You didn't explain what is humiliating about "hook up culture", by which I take it you mean sex without commitment.

>>21784527
>Counterpoint: pegging, face-sitting.

I guess, yes. But those are not natural acts, even putting aside any judgment of value towards paraphilia, sex is fundamentally about procreation and as such it is violence, it just so happens that most women are naturally inclined by evolution to enjoy receiving that violence; while men enjoy inflicting it. And in all of this i'm just an outsider revolted by nature.

>>21785058
You have to put yourself in a needy position and humiliate yourself in front of your desired sex partner in order to get a chance of having sex with the person.
> sex without commitment
I go a step further and call any sex that isn't procreative as a self-humiliating procedure for one partner, ego-gratifying for the other but in varying degrees. Men who managed to greatly turn off their sexual needs become the receiving part in this type of deal, this is why women are doing everything in their possibilities of turning men into degenerate coomers, so that them become the gratified egoists while the man takes the role of the humiliated needer.

>>21784147
>There's really no way to have sex that isn't in some way a violence for us women, and i could never accept it.
That's a very dramatic way of describing penetration.

>>21785119
>You have to put yourself in a needy position and humiliate yourself in front of your desired sex partner in order to get a chance of having sex with the person.
Like getting in the knees and begging for sex? I am sure you are aware that's not how hooking up works. You can be forthright and ask the person if they want to have sex with you. How is that humiliating?

>>21785158
> Like getting in the knees and begging for sex?
In a hyperbole sense, totally, yes.
> You can be forthright and ask the person if they want to have sex with you. How is that humiliating?
Because it shows that you have a need for sex. The side that expresses this desire the first is the loosing and submissive actor of the deal by default. This is why, if you want to be a man of superior stock, under no circumstances should you ever allow yourself to bring out the expression "do you want to have sex with me". They belong to the stock of the cucks, of the betas. Women like those men the same way men like women who are submissive and do the housework without question.

>>21785158
NTA but he, like most of his ilk, have deep, inculcated shame about sex and project that on the act.

>>21785134
To any sane person i suppose it is, thankfully so, otherwise humanity would have collapsed long ago. But really, when it comes down to it, am i essentially wrong? Everything from the act itself to the lexical field used by men to describe it is inherently violent. It always seemed to me like the impulse to have sex was the furthest thing from love. It's always about hurting, humiliating and dominating. It's just the way it is, and again; women are mostly very happy to submit, and so are men to dominate. No point in denying the nature of the dynamic.

>>21785169
>Because it shows that you have a need for sex. The side that expresses this desire the first is the loosing and submissive actor of the deal by default.
There is no deal taking place in the scenario I am describing. You are simply asking the person if they are interested in sex or not. They could simply say yes, in which case you have sex with them with no concessions being made. And in the case they are not interested, you can simply not have sex instead of trying to give them something in exchange, although even in that case it is not true that you are on the losing end of the deal by default.

>>21782679
>>21783866
Nice, really cool gif

>>21785215
And this is the case in the union you are describing, I do not disagree with you at all, the union of the whore with the cuck. The whore always wants sex, the cuck also always wants sex, or, the differential between the two makes the moments where the cuck takes the lead and those where the whore takes the lead. But this is not the only possible union there is. It must be said that the whore has two sides - the whore side, when she is with the cuck, and the maiden side, when she is with Chad. Chad completely lacks a true need for sex - he enjoys it, he has a high libido even, but he never initiates. Chad, being superior to the whore, can turn her to submissiveness, where she becomes a maiden. The maiden however completely lacks all independancy - like the cuck, she gets sex, but she is in a position as despised by women as being a cuck is despised by men. Stacy is independant and she can enter deep relationships with other men - this is rare - without them being necessarily sexual. Thus, only in the union with Chad she is complete, and there is no submissive partner when Chad mates with Stacy.

>>21785134
Women are the losers in the physical act of sex. They have everything to lose, because in this exchange they give up their one and only power over men. Which is a really tragic and difficult thing, and it's why most women lose their innocence upon sex. They awaken to a conception of themselves as sexual objects, and begin living in these terms.

Sex is humanity's greatest pleasure, but also its downfall. Overall, it is more trouble than it's worth. For a brief night of pleasure, we debase ourselves, trade our innocence, waste incredible amounts of money. It's no better than any other addiction. Sex is like fire; control it, or else it will swallow up everything and burn it down.

>>21785214
Well, sex can be performed in any number ways, for example with softer, gentler thrusts while kissing. It doesn't require sharp divisions between a dominant and a submissive role. A preference for more submissive men is not that uncommon.

It's like...totally awesome to be alive, am I right? I mean, sure, life can be tough, but there's so much good stuff out there too! And one of the best things? SEX!

I know, I know, some people say sex is bad or whatever. But they're totally wrong! Sex is like the best thing ever, and it's been that way since...um, I don't know, like, forever!

Aristotle thought sex was super important. And you know what? I totally agree with him!

I mean, think about it. Sex is like this amazing, intimate connection with another person. It's like you're two parts of a whole, coming together in this beautiful, passionate moment. And yeah, maybe there's some risks involved, but it's totally worth it for the incredible joy and pleasure you can experience.

>>21785296
>um, I don't know, like, forever!
Fuck off to Reddit.

>>21785292
Sounds to me like saying there's a gentle way to stab someone's flesh. Obviously the comparison is extreme, but no matter the tenderness of the man, the symbolic of the sexual act remains. It transcends us and we are subjected to it, whether we want it or not. The man penetrates the woman. It's an invasion, and as such it's inherently violent even when it's physically pleasurable. How women can accept to be this vulnerable in their flesh to a creature as fallible as another human, especially a man, is beyond me. >>21785275 had a good point, the reality of sex is really a tragic awakening for us, and most men don't even care and are happy to treat us like inanimate objects anyway. I had this epiphany without even having sex so i can't imagine the wounds created by, say, hooking up with a man only for him to leave you after that. It's ontologically depressing.

>>21783449
Only if they have questions themselves or are faced with a tough decision. Otherwise I keep the knowledge to myself.

>>21785265
I think we are talking past each other because your post feels completely surreal to me. The scenario I laid out is simply approaching a person that you find attractive, and asking (not requesting) if they are interested in sex. Are you saying that the person who initiates the conversation is always a cuck. and in order to have sex with dignity, you should always wait the other person to ask first?

>>21785353
I'm not saying it's objectively bad to initiate the sex but you are doing all these other things for the consent of the other person so technically (she) is in power because of this, and can trade anything for the sex. This is how women become maidens without rights, men, submissive cucks who do the laundry and the dishes for their woman.

>>21785353
I must also add that in this type of society the relationship men and women enter with each other seems to exclusively revolve itself around sex

>>21785337
>Sounds to me like saying there's a gentle way to stab someone's flesh. Obviously the comparison is extreme, but no matter the tenderness of the man, the symbolic of the sexual act remains. It transcends us and we are subjected to it, whether we want it or not. The man penetrates the woman. It's an invasion, and as such it's inherently violent
Seems like gibberish to me. What you call the "symbolic" is not actually part of the act at all but at most a bizarre allegory. Of course, you may not like sex, but that does not make it violent - not that there is anything wrong with violent sex of course.

>>21780350
>>21780742
It makes you know how terrible women really are

>>21784147
Because you are the recipient of conquest. Sneed.

Also post tits

>>21785369
>I'm not saying it's objectively bad to initiate the sex but you are doing all these other things for the consent of the other person so technically (she) is in power because of this, and can trade anything for the sex.
I am talking about approaching a woman and asking her if she wants to get her tight pussy stretched. There is no trade taking place, if she says no you leave.

>>21784757
Fuck off gaytheist nigger

>>21785444
yeah but in what position do I see myself doing that
Just hire an escort, that's half the effort, double the fun

>>21785420
It's a thread about libido. Of course i'm talking about my own experience and i know the limitations of it. I don't like sex and my views are colored by it, so are yours because you enjoy sex more than i do. Now that we have acknowledged the obvious, we can move on. It's not a bizarre allegory to say that penetration is an invasion; it's factually what it is and you can deny it all you want but it is a violence; it's not my dislike of sex that makes penetration violent, in fact women love sex for the very same reason i hate it. Ask a woman to explain what she loves about sex and she'll clearly tell you, in her idiosyncratic chosen words, that she likes the violence of either dominance, or degradation. I fail to see what is really bizarre about my interpretation of the symbolic of sex when really it is the most basic interpretation there is, nothing about it is innovative or even slightly curious. The only notable difference is my conclusion as a woman that sex is not worth it, while others will start from the same postulate as me but will conclude that it is a great and valuable thing. I'm just unnaturally and intellectually disgusted by the state of things, but they are what they are, really. I think you're not discussing in good faith though, because were you to explain to me what you love the most sexually, your argument would quickly collapse on itself.

>>21785420
Violence is not the best word IMO, since the effect of sex is categorically different from violence. Women give up some part of themselves to the guy when they have sex. All of society and nature seems to tell women, "Your purpose is to be the sexual object of desire", but to them it's a disheartening role, they really don't want to be just an object for lust (and who can blame them?). So, for a pure-hearted woman sex can be tragic (getting pumped and dumped particularly) because it confirms they're nothing but sex objects.

So modern women adapt by taking a detached view of sex. "Let's not get emotional about it" -- Fuck buddies, FWB, you know the deal. We even have terms for this, don't accidentally "catch feels" with a hookup. It is tempting to go the trad larper route and say, "Women were actually HAPPIER treated in a traditional marriage", but well, they were still treated like objects. The only way to avoid this object thing is if the man truly loves the woman. Perhaps there is some hypothetical society where sex occurs only on the basis of love (maybe Amish society with their Rumspringa is close?) but I don't know. Most likely it's one of those human things where we'll just never have a good solution.

Also NTA

>>21784880
Schopenhauer once said to his mother that she will be only remembered as his mother. He was right, no one knows the stupid whore's name, she is only Schopenhauer's forever assblasted mother.

>>21785600
Based Schoppy

>>21784147
tranny btw

>>21785617
Trannies leave behind their sanity and amputate healthy organs just to have the experience i'm running away from, through a medical simulacrum. How moronic to imagine that they could feel this sort of existential anguish.

>>21785554
>It's not a bizarre allegory to say that penetration is an invasion; it's factually what it is and you can deny it all you want but it is a violence;
It is a bizarre allegory. It's exactly like saying a US diplomatic envoy to France is an invasion of France, because US diplomats are "penetrating" the French border. If you completely neglect every single important detail which might allow you to determine whether it's an invasion, then it could be construed as an invasion at the utmost superficial level. It's genuinely nonsensical and making this analogy makes the person seem as though they are putting forth ideas in bad faith. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because you seem genuine.

>>21781143
One of the greatests minds in philosophy had syphilis from only being able to fuck whores. The fuck are you talking about?

>>21782844
THE Philosopher, Aristotle, had a wife and kids

>>21784515
Based NDE bro. We are going to make it.

>>21781096
I had phimosis, get circumcised bro. If you are still on your parent's health insurance, get circed. It will suck for a few months but you will heal and have the confidence you need to plow. Or stop having sex it is overrated. Rooting for you nobody gets this struggle.

>>21780350
do men count?

>>21780636
>unless your philosophy leads to a life affirming conclusion that fits your confirmation bias that life should be meaningful you're no actual philosopher
interesting take, absurdist or nietzschean?
>your sex life status is your own fault
it always is, you just forgot that only pigs eat everything presented to them
philosophy always leads you to face nihilism at one point or another, some solve it by regressing to religion (kierkegaard), some by absurdism (camus), some by plagiarizing voluntary egoism and trying to affirm life by exalting hierarchy while missing the point (nietzsche)
was schopenhauer not a philosopher, were the stoics, the eastern thinkers and every other man who sought voluntary celibacy when they were faced with the realization that material life is meaningless not real philosopher?
yours is a confirmation bias to your already established view that allows you to overcome the fear of death "life has meaning", what you don't realize is that the whole question of meaning of life roots from religion, life is meaningless and religion was made to fill that void and to remedy fear of death at the cost of tithes and control of the masses that weren't ready or willing to accept that all things that are born must die
unask the question of meaning of life, it is meant to lead you to religion, what is the point of hedonism when you will only enslave yourself to your own most basic impulses, any justification you use to indulge in that is just you yourself caving in and adopting your impulses as your own will
what does it mean to be a philosopher is answered by looking at someone like max stirner who broke so free from the system of thought he approached eastern enlightenment tier freedom, how does one do that while managing to keep their ego and to exalt it? figure that out and you'll realize why people stop caring about sex when they become philosophers
some of them do do it to justify their inceldom i'm not denying that, some of them do it because they are stuck on the depressive nihilism state and never resurfaced from the "dark night of the soul", id say philosopher is closer to a zen monk than a flamboyant hedonist who just indulges in their senses and calls it freedom to be a pig who devours until their senses are dulled

>>21785916
>one of the greatest
you mean the guy who plagiarized stirner, contradicted his philosophy with his actions publicly and never got past his basic impulses or understood the man he was plagiarizing not wanting to be his bastardization aka overman?
i'm not surprised a man like that would have to resort to prostitutes to the point he gets syphilis and goes crazy with it, if you want to see the real deal he was copying look no further than max stirner

>sexual penetration is a negative connotations word
that must be why you think women don't enjoy it and every woman that spreads their legs to you is descending from the heavens to bestow the holy pussy upon you, it's just a wet hole that they feel good through when you plow them flat just like mens assholes are, only difference between pussy and ass is that one produces offspring if you jizz inside it while the other will just produce back your jizz
most philosophers didn't need to have kids because they realized it was just their own unga bunga desire for metaphorical immortality via the bloodline meme, if you're not a monarch it literally doesn't matter if you pump out a kid or not, philosophers mostly fucked men because men are much easier to get along with and better company than women
once you get past the pussy is some fabulous gift from the gods phase you realize it's actually a very mediocre experience that is entirely lopsided for the takers pleasure while you're forced to just focus on holding back and the only pleasure you really get out of it is shutting them up about wanting to be plowed
at that point you might as well either start being a fag or just become voluntary celibate when you realize that effeminate men are same shit different package, only hard gays can truly enjoy sex with other hard gay masc men that's why plato and the bunch were such massive greek fags, if you're not a fag then good luck finding the unicorn woman that is tolerable enough to fuck after you're aware of your impulses

>>21785066
I don't know, according to your interpretation writing a book would also be a form of violence. You are forcing your viewpoints on someone else, penetrating their mind, leaving something there whether they like it or not (assuming they actually engage with the book) and this can be done by women towards men as well. You might be fixated on the act of penetration itself and use that as a metaphor for "procreation" being a violent process, but in nature procreation happens in a variety of ways including self-division or the female ejecting eggs and then the male ejecting his sperm on the eggs. We just happened to evolve one way of breeding so I guess it's tempting to model our philosophical worldview around it, but a metaphor can only take you so far.

Your argument taken to its logical conclusion is just that life itself is a form of violence. You consume others to sustain yourself, whether they're plants, animals, plankton or other bacterial cells. I don't consider sex itself to be any more violence than eating and breathing, and I don't see it as being degrading for women any more than it is degrading for men (assuming it is done consensually) but I can see how a woman who is in the "receptive position" during sex would come to believe that. If anything the whole social clowning we do for a relationship seems more degrading to me than the act itself, and the casual sex culture we have today can also contribute a lot to feeling that sex is just some hedonistic, degrading thing, but I digress.

>>21786139
>get circumcised bro

>>21787170
phimosis is the only medical reason to do it i know of so he has legit reason to do it, the rest could stop genitally mutilating their kids

>>21781096
I used to have it too when I was 11 or something, doctor prescribed a cream for my benis and I was cured

>>21787185
Steroid cream must be tried first, Jude.

>>21787226
>steroid cream
never heard of that but if it works go for it, also i'm euro we don't mutilate our kids here

>>21784334
no contradiction detected
>seduction is about management of illusions and desires, the domain of what is traditionally personified by the devil
>in the world of representation, after sex the devil disassembles his spectacle without even waiting for you to leave the seat

>>21787322
the will to life pairs you with your polar opposite to "fill in the gaps" and make the "ideal child", in reality it pairs spineless conformists with wanton whores with no shame

>>21784147
>Most women learned to love the violence
Incels begone! This is the most profound sentence I've read on lit in months and belongs in an Othello.

>>21786755
Fucking based
>http://www.lsr-projekt.de/poly/ennietzsche.html

>enjoy the ascetic of philosophy but have yet to finish any actual text
Its over isn't it

>>21780350
No you just have to get used to being fucked than fucking

>>21780350
This is basically the opposite for me
I was really into philosophy in college and fucked like crazy back then
Kind of getting back into it lately so we'll see

>>21780350
Never had a sex life before. Don't have one now. Won't ever have one (because I'm an autistic incel and don't actively pursue it)

>>21780350
No

Basically I hate women

>>21782844
As opposed to

Socrates
Aristotle
Diogenes
Shakespeare
Bach (seriously)
Napoleon
Mozart
James Joyce
Einstein

All of whom coomed their fucking brains out to various degrees

>>21782687
>Anon grunts like a pig over some mid tier slut for 5-20 minutes
>after an evening spent cringily schmoozing the existentialism void that is the average woman
>Proceeds to derisively mock other people for not being as obsessed with this activity as he is
Incels are pathetic, but come the fuck on, "sex is depraved" is hardly a fringe opinion historically speaking

>>21783909
>Anon misses a crucial part of the message of Buddha and Jesus and treats them like unapproachable aliens

>>21782844
>Sartre and Beauvoir cited as examples on the "smart man no sexo" list
Okay, I got baited