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It is that time of year again.

>> No.22176040

>>22175982
What are you getting, anon?

I have about two Billy bookcase shelves full of NYRB classics and have read about half of them, but seem to keep collecting them. I sometimes feel like s pseud having these on my shelf, but damn they always find great literature.

>> No.22176048

Why the fuck do we need another translation of Swann’s Way. Can’t stand their jewish grift

>> No.22176067

>>22176040
The Netanyahus, The Letters of William Gaddis and at least one more book to make the cut for %40 off.
>>22176048
Why not? I would read another translation of it if it is noticeably different, love Swann's Way and a translation is essentially a word by word criticism, quite interesting. Doubt I would read the entire thing again just for a new translation, I just don't see Moncrieff being topped.

>> No.22176074

>>22176067
NYRB commissioned a translation of Dante’s purgatory by a mick who cannot speak, read, or write Italian. He just consulted every translation and made his best guess. You can’t trust their translators — you can only trust the translations they acquired from other publishers thanks to their jewish lawyers

>> No.22176096

>>22176048
kek

>> No.22176104

>>22175982
I'm getting JR, Anatomy, Augustus and i need a fourth. What do recommend?

>> No.22176124

>>22176074
>they did one thing I disagree with! that means they are evil jews!
>>22176104
Speedboat or Balcony in the Forest are my favorites from them so far. On Being Blue is also good.

>> No.22176130

Anybody have anything say about Wilding by Isabella Tree, a non-fiction book about rich couple letting their farm land return to nature.

>> No.22176131

>>22176124
>recommends hacq
Yeah, don’t listen to this retard

>> No.22176136

I recommend Amsterdam Stories

>> No.22176139

I thought their Russian translators were decent enough. Jews control most of publishing industry. This whole paranoia about jews becomes pathetic at times.

>> No.22176170

>>22176139
It’s not paranoia when you admit it’s a reality

>> No.22176192

>>22176104
>>22176124
I second The Balcony in the Forest. Short but amazing.

Would also recommend The Communist by Guido Morselli (don’t let the name dissuade you, although it is about a communist it isn’t proselytism).

>> No.22176195

Why don't they have big postmodern tomes besides Gaddis? Their catalog js chick lit for jewish men under 30.

>> No.22176198

>>22176192
They have anti-communist books, yet somehow NYRB is compromised jewish company spreading far leftist propaganda.

>> No.22176201

>>22175982
Anybody know if the new translation of "The Stronghold" / Tartar Steppe is worth it? Better than the other translation?

>> No.22176205

>>22176195
Because other companies own the publishing rights to those books.

>> No.22176218

>>22176198
Aren't jews capitalistic by design?

>> No.22176222

>>22176198
>They have anti-communist books
Examples? I see they have a Drieu de la Rochelle book upcoming, but clearly they don't have a "essential anti-communist literature" list

>> No.22176231

What's new about them playing both sides?

>> No.22176244

Ok guys very funny. Now stop coz i'm jewish (not pro Israel) and i'm getting uncomfortable with this.

>> No.22176258

>>22176104
Gide, Marshlands

>> No.22176269

>>22176244
You’re one of the good ones.

>> No.22176270

>>22176198
Yeah I don’t get the backlash NYRB gets on here as well; it’s either they’re great or they’re part of the Jewish cabal. I only put the warning because I imagine when someone reads the word communist on this website 9 times out of 10 they’re going to throw some hissy fit at the mere mention of the name.

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>>22176244
If you're one of us anon, you'll take shit on the goy too.

>> No.22176303

>>22176276
Do jews actually call non-jews “goys” un private? I thought it was a /pol/ meme

>> No.22176332

>>22176303
yes, Jews are slimy rats that hate all non-Jews.

>> No.22176338

>>22176332
We don't. Stop it.

>> No.22176425

>>22176244
This board is the most diverse sampling of people ever. In order to celebrate our forced inclusiveness, I've prepared a recommendation for everybody :

1. Cormac McCarthy Fan : Butcher's Crossing by John Williams

2. Fascist White Male looking to remember the Wehrmacht : Stalin Front by Gert Ledig

3. Jewish Male who wants to be reminded how good Jewish writers are : Netanyahus by Joshua Cohen

4. Incel Male who hates women : Stoner by John Williams

5. Athiest Male : The Stronghold by Dino Buzzatti

6. Male REI type who likes the outdoors : The Journal 1837-1861 by Henry Thoreau

7. White Male who wants to be reminded of how racist White males are : Negrophobia by Darius James

8.Gay Male who wants writings about other Gay Males : My Father and Myself by J.R Ackerly

9. Woman who wants a good woman writer : Speedboat by Renata Adler.

10. Christian who wants some Jesus in his life : On Christmas by Gyles Brandreth

11. Zoomer with no attention span : Novels in three lines : Felix Fenenon

12. Communist who doesn't believe in working : Right to be lazy by Paul LaFargue

>> No.22176443

>>22176074
> He just consulted every translation
This is not as bad of a solution as you suggest, for something as heavily translated as Dante.
There are competing goals for translatioms; you seem to think it’s synonymous with accuracy here but you’re lying because such translations are unreadable and need a ton of footnotes detailing linguistic issues. Any translation that flows makes compromises. With enough translations you can adapt them into a better prose if you are skilled.

Do you read The Iliad as “Godfury, speak”? Or “Goddess, sing me the anger, of Achilles, Peleus' son”? “The wrath sing, goddess, of Peleus' son, Achilles”?
The poetic impact of “godfury” at the start of the text in greek can’t be replicated in english. So what do you do?

>> No.22176444

>>22176425
Any other books over 800 pages other than Grossman, Gaddis and Burton?

>> No.22176453

>>22176074
Based
>>22176443
Retard

>> No.22176456

>>22176443
Shut the fuck up, pseud

>> No.22176466

>>22176425
> Cormac McCarthy Fan : Butcher's Crossing by John Williams
I’d say Butcher’s Crossing is more for Lonesome Dove fans. It has very little to do with Cormy other than a “wild west” setting. Even then it’s completely different even down to the setting.

>> No.22176471

>>22176456
>>22176453
Well you sure got mad but I don’t see any arguments.

>> No.22176477

>>22176444
- Memoirs from beyond the grave (2 volumes) by DeChateaubriand.

- Balkan Trilogy : Olivia Manning

>> No.22176484

>>22176471
Mad means crazy, not angry. Stop writing like a nigger. If you don’t know the language you shouldn’t be “translating”. What that faggot mick did was just remixing. He’s a book DJ, not a translator.

>> No.22176503

>>22176466
How about Warlock by Oakley Hall?

>> No.22176507

>>22176484
How do you feel about Ezra Pound?

>> No.22176523

>>22176131
Even if he is a hack, Balcony in the Forest is an amazing work.
>>22176484
Mad in that use goes back to at least the early 1800s, OED gives 1834 as the earliest usage example.

>> No.22176550

>>22176218
Yes but they spread communist and liberal ideas to destroy the economy of great nations.

>> No.22176566

>>22176131
I’m interested in why everyone on this board seems to think he’s a ‘hacq’. Is it just because nothing happens in his books (even though Balcony in the Forest has enough of a plot to go against that), because if so that’s an incredibly brain dead take.

I’m certain that most these people who call him a hacq haven’t even read him. Sure he’s not the best writer, and I’m not rushing to read his other novels after finishing The Balcony in the Forest, but it was good, a solid 7.5/10.

>> No.22176591

>>22176566
No, his writing just fucking sucks. If I want to read a middlebrow writer whose writing emphasizes purpose prose, I would read Paul Morand — not Hacq

>> No.22176604

Niggas obsessed about jews kek

>> No.22176607
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I put it off long enough lads. I pulled the trigger. I’m going in as soon as I get it in the mail.
If I don’t make it back out tell gook moot I love him.

>> No.22176610

>>22176604
>t. Incessantly kvetching jew
Oy vey

>> No.22176612

>>22176566
We always have at least one anon who has nothing better to do than seethe about Gracq. Ignore them unless they offer something worth discussing.
>>22176591
>he just is
Great argument.

>> No.22176614

>>22176604
Go back to Africa, Jamal.

>> No.22176615

>>22176607
You would be better off finding an annotated version at a library sale.

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22176625

How does it compare to Storm of Steel?

>> No.22176635

>>22176625
Its one of his best books but fuck that femoids shit translation and get the Stuart Hood edition. Him and Junger were actually homies.

>> No.22176637

>>22176612
>he just is
Typical jewish behavior: disingenuous misinterpretation

>> No.22176643

>>22176637
Typical brainlet behavior. You offered nothing which could be discussed nor did you demonstrate having read Gracq, just stated an opinion.

>> No.22176654

>>22176643
Neither have you, little jew rat. Speaking in platitudes where you whinge over people who dislike hacq does not constitute “having read him”

>> No.22176675

>>22176643
Gracq is straight up shit. Read The Castle of Argol and you have read everything he has ever had to say. Slogging through The Opposing Shore is brainlet shit.

>> No.22176678

I was gonna get Ernst Junger's Marble Cliffs, The Negro who went to Greenland, and some others, but then I saw that shipping to Norway was $60. Nei takk

>> No.22176682

>>22176654
You were responding to a direct question regarding why and did not answer that question, just restated "he is a hacq" in a more verbose fashion. Brainlet begone.

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>>22176682
I said his “his writing fucking suck,” which was followed by a statement elaborating on that. Just because you’re a disingenuous jew kvetching over people disliking a mediocre writer, does not mean you can derail a thread screeching into the void that people have not read said mediocre writer — a hack defending a hacq

>> No.22176703

>>22176675
The Castle of Argol is very different than his later work in every way, he went through a fairly massive change as a writer after The Opposing Shore. I kind of agree with you on The Opposing Shore, making us suffer through Aldo the bore's first person narration served no purpose and the novel has no real sense of continuity/flow, just "oh look a room full of maps, borders are such strange things!" comes out of nowhere and does not even accomplish conveying the idea of a border within context of the novel; he did the border thing much better in Balcony in the Forest where he just implies it and lets it loom over the novel. The Opposing Shore has some moments of greatness, like Aldo's trip in the beginning but nothing on the level of Grange's dream in Balcony in the Forest.

>> No.22176706

>>22176678
Even shipping to nearby countries is pretty expensive. The fucking Jews, man.

>> No.22176709

Must /pol/ sully every single thread on this board?

>> No.22176715

>>22176702
That statement of elaboration is just "because I don't like it" aka "he just is" and now you try and offer owning the books as some sort of proof and validation. Discuss or fuck off.

>> No.22176717

>>22176709
Go back tranny. I heard your jannys already bent the knee.

>> No.22176722

Anon thinks pasting the wikipedia summaries of two books and juxtaposing them means he reads books! Truly, a great titan of jewish intellect

>> No.22176745

>>22176443
Ah yes, the redditor's translation method, used by all the most influential translations of great literature.

>> No.22176764

>>22176722
>I don't read and have no life
I am sorry.

>> No.22176768

>>22176709
since the mod team is not only letting it happen but tacitly endorsing it, the answer is yes

>> No.22176777

>>22176768
/lit/s janny is a literal tranny. Seems more like the discord troons would rather kvetch and shitpost about the /pol/ chuds than do their unpaid job.

>> No.22176810

>>22176709
Until they scare off every advertiser, yes. Hiro won't do anything until then.

>> No.22176857

>>22176136
Someone on /lit/ (implicitly) mentioned Nescio, I thought I’d never live to see the day that would happen.

I’ve only read the Dutch originals, but of the translations even come close, I’d second this recommendation in a heartbeat.

>> No.22176925

>Live in the UK

Sucks we never get shit like this.

>> No.22176942

>>22176857
He gets brought up reasonably often, especially Amsterdam Stories.

>> No.22176996

Why buy these versions over any others?? Is it just the aesthetic??

>> No.22177010

>>22176996
Many don’t have another version. NYRB’s angle is publishing under the radar books and hidden gems

>> No.22177017

>>22176996
Beyond what the other anon said they are well made and hold up well, non of mine even look like they have been read despite many having been read multiple times.

>> No.22177030

>>22177010
>>22177017
Alright I’ll take your word for it I’m looking at The Recognitions, JR, Amsterdam Stories and Stoner. Any other recommendations to go along with these purely for sake of the sale? I have a decent backlog already so I’m not trying to overstock and I haven’t read any of the four listed. For reference I love Russian literature and Modernism, I just reread TBK after 10 years and I’m reading Notes From a Dead House for the first time.

>> No.22177039

>>22177030
Memories of the Future and all his other shit that nyrb published are fucking mint. Dont waste your time on John Williams.

>> No.22177042
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>>22175982
Get Arabia Felix. I can't recommend this book enough. The first chapter is a dry but the rest is the best character-driven historical novel that happened in real life. It's a serious testament to scholarship

>> No.22177050

>>22177030
Marshlands and Zama Could be of interest. If you want Williams then the LoA volume might be a better bet, but I am one of those that find Williams skipable.

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My modest collection of NYRB over the years. Gunna go for their entire catalog

>> No.22177078

What is good in their contemporary fiction?

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>>22177030
If you're into Bleak Russian Epics and wanna go big -- possibly as big as it gets -- check out Life and Fate.

>> No.22177089

>>22177063
What are your favorites? Publishers like NYRB and New Directions are godsends

>> No.22177102

>>22177089
Kaputt, Kolyma Tales (thank you to the anon who recommended this to me), Life and Fate, and Marshlands.
> Publishers like NYRB and New Directions are godsends
Could not agree more. My dream is to have the entire catalogs of Dalkey, NYRB, ND, @las, and Wakefield

>> No.22177122

>>22177063
Really nice, anon. I just scanned ober your collection, so I may have missed if you have it, but if you enjoyed The Iliad I highly recommend The Poem of Force they have, one of the best pieces of literary cirticism I’ve ever read, and I mean that in both its analysis as well as its style. They published it with a couple other essays in the Iliad as well.

>> No.22177140

>>22177102
They have a really small selection, and the translations seem a little iffey, but you should also check out Antipodes Press

>> No.22177144

>>22177122
Thanks, anon. Never heard of it. But you got me hooked. Just added it to my order. Just saw Weil wrote it. Absolutely dumbfounded how I never knew of this piece of hers: she is one of my favorite thinkers. Thank you!

>> No.22177163

>>22177140
Thanks for the new publisher. Never heard of them. I just checked them out, and I like their selection. Plan on getting their de Nerval’s Journey to the Orient and London’s The People of the Abyss

>> No.22177179

>>22175982
How long does the sale last?

>> No.22177193

>>22176703
>Grange's dream
One of the best realizations of life in all of literature and the way the novel pivots on it is fantastic.
>tfw no Mona gf
>>22177179
Generally ends on Sunday if memory serves.

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I spend too much money because of this board

>> No.22177227

>>22176104
Warlock is the lost loat Great American novel. Pynchon agrees.

>> No.22177232

>>22177227
>tfw Curley riding into town asking if his chest looks yellow

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>>22177232
>tfw Kate Dollar catching feelings for a dead man

>> No.22177264

>>22176198
They've moved on from the Soviets to soifacing over crappy memoirs by blacks in urban America and post-colonial Africa

>> No.22177315

Picked out 4 books I wanted but shipping is around $200 to Aus. Oh well...

>> No.22177400

>>22177315
What are you doing in Australia, bro?

>> No.22177445

>>22177315
Australia-US shipping is ridiculous and it just keeps getting worse.

>> No.22177464

>>22177315
Can you a request a local bookstore to order it for cheaper? I imagine it’s just a clusterfuck. Sorry that you have to live upside down m8, makes traveling logistics hard I reckon

>> No.22177551

>look at this thread for ideas and pirate the books
Devilish

>> No.22177665

Eve's Hollywood any good?

>> No.22177674

>>22175982
How’s The Thirty Years War by Wedgwood?

>> No.22177939

NYRB has so many good books, have yet to be really disappointed with something they released. I just finished The Open Road by Giono and it was fantastic, highly recommend it.

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>>22175982
Of course this happens when I don't have any money

>> No.22178099

>The Stronghold
>Bresson on Bresson
>Notes on the Cinemetograph
>The Man Without Talent
>Slum Wolf
NYRB should release more gekiga than just these two

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>$40 shipping
nevermind

>> No.22178114

>>22178110
it's free if you go over 50 bucks but then it's like why am i paying so much for books that I'll read once and then just sit on my shelf?

>> No.22178130

>>22178114
yeah I usually get rid of books when I finish them, the only nyrb I want is butchers crossing because it eludes me in used bookstores. $10 per book aint bad though

>> No.22178266

>>22176942
>especially Amsterdam Stories.
yeah as that's his only book in English (collecting his best known stories)

>> No.22178415

If The Opposing Shore is anything to go by, i'd avoid Hacq

>> No.22178428

>>22177063
bug shit

>> No.22178430

now dont take it from me, but i heard a rumor from a rumorer on the grapevine a view voices down that NYRB might be publishing a translation of a particular french transgressive author sometime soon

>> No.22178435

>>22178428
Why are you talking about your reflection in the mirror?

>> No.22178536

>>22177674
I enjoyed it. Well written. Some people accused her of an anti-Catholic bias and a Gustavus Adolphus fangirl. But she was at times critical of Gustavus Adolphus (particularly for pressing his land claims when he really needed allies). And Richelieu was a bit of a prick. So who cares about a bunch of bellyaching papists.
Fuck the pope.

>> No.22178627

>>22178430
Guyotat?

>> No.22178632

>>22178430
Lautreamont?

>> No.22178647

>>22178430
De Sade?

>> No.22178649

>>22178430
It's Drieu de la Rochelle. It's already on their upcoming list.

>> No.22178654

>>22178649
He isn't particularly transgressive

>> No.22178657

>>22178430
Why are you acting like an insider. It’s literally on their website

>> No.22178674

What isn't on their website is that they'll be publishing Cristina Campo's The Unforgivable next year.

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>>22178674

>> No.22178691

>>22178683
is that their website?

>> No.22178695

>>22178691
>>22178674
Hello, Greggy Gerke, when are you going to shill again in “contemporary lit” threads?

>> No.22178699

Splice publishers

>> No.22178710

>>22178695
excuse me?

>> No.22178736

>>22178710
Did I stutter, greg?

>> No.22178766

Post your NYRB stack, Greg Gerke

>> No.22178828

>>22178654
Dude literally wrote a book called "Fascist Socialism" - he's a more fascist version of Mishima.

>> No.22178903

Can’t recommend Akenfield enough.

>> No.22179000

>>22178903
why? You people just say a title and expect people to pick it up on title alone. Tell a bit about the book, please.

>> No.22179004

You guys got any recommendations for nature lover? I have some of them already like The peregrine and the japanese book about farming.

>> No.22179017

>>22179000
It’s a fascinating expose on a transition period between old style and industrial agriculture in rural England. there’s also religious discussion, household economics, hobbies, education, regional differences. Basically how the world worked before we all became urbanite bugmen and yuppie remote workers.

>> No.22179026

>>22179017
Thank you, fren. I will actual give this a read one day. I'm actual interested in reading it because of my love of dead terrorist who almost trooned out.

>> No.22179036

>>22176925
UK's got amazing sellers on abebewcks, only second to yanks.

>> No.22179046

>>22176925
I thought euros had it better when it comes to books?

>> No.22179192

Is Magda Szabo any good? They seem to publish a million of her books and for some reason every time I find a handful of NYRBs in a used bookstore, no matter where I am, there's at least one Szabo mixed in.

>> No.22179209

>>22179046
The French do. Brits are fucked because inflation, brexit, etc

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>>22178430
>transgressive author

>> No.22179306

>>22176332
Is the Malaparte book good?

>> No.22179312 [DELETED] 

I have never met a Jew. What are they like? Is it true they’re neurotic?

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>>22179004

>> No.22179360

>>22179344
already have it thank you anyway.

>> No.22179365

>>22179004
one of the Jean Giono's

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Pic rel looks interesting, any thoughts?
>The translator Anthony Kerrigan compared Camilo José Cela, the 1989 winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature, to Louis-Ferdinand Céline and Curzio Malaparte—all “ferocious writers, truculent, badly spoken, even foulmouthed.” However provocative and disturbing, Cela’s novels are also flat-out dazzling, their sentences as rigorous as they are riotous, lodging like knives in the reader’s mind. Cela called himself a proponent of “uglyism,” of “nothingism.” But he has the knack, to quote another critic, Américo Castro, of deploying those “nothings and lacks” to construct beauty.

>The Hive is set over the course of a few days in the Madrid of 1943, not long after the end of the Spanish Civil War, when the regime of General Francisco Franco was at its most oppressive. The book includes more than three hundred characters whose comings and goings it tracks to hypnotic effect. Scabrous, scandalous, and profane, The Hive is a virtuosic group portrait of a wounded and sick society

>> No.22179480

>>22176040
He's not getting anything. He's getting paid $7.30 for each thread he makes about NYRB. If he reads at all he's buying Signet classics in bulk, but he's more likely to be spending the little money he has on food or HRT.

>> No.22179484

>>22179480
>muh trannies
what does that have to do with anything? lol

>> No.22179502

>>22177042
I love this man, only halfway in

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>>22175982
got any good schizo kino?

>> No.22179573

>>22179000
Most of us are not all that concerned if you buy the book or not and NYRB does a fairly good job on synopsis, often including some decent blurbs by authors and critics that are more than just your standard back of the book blurb.
>>22179004
Thoreau's Journal is pretty good.
>>22179209
US and UK have cheap shipping between them, I order from the UK at least a few times a year and shipping is generally comparable to what I pay for domestic shipping, occasionally cheaper.
>>22179480
So I have made a grand total of $7.30? I am lousy at my job and at this rate it is going to take forever and a day to transition.

>> No.22179901
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Triggered

>> No.22179921

>>22179901
lmao those jews just give shit translators new comissions just so they dont have to pay good translators royalties. I dont live in Jew York anymore but i bet their hoe ass interns are full supporters of the writers strike lol.

>> No.22179928

>>22179521
A Posthumous Confession. I remember it being recommended here. Haven't read it yet

>> No.22179935

>>22177063
>Boredom
>Contempt
Which Moravia to start with?

>> No.22179947

>>22179935
Agostino

>> No.22179978

>>22179521
Schreber's Memoirs of My Nervous Illness obviously.
(Forgot that they published Corvo (also Symons' Quest) – so do Penguin – but he's a great author in general. Maybe Theroux has something interesting to say?)

>> No.22179985

>>22176074
Based.
>>22176443
Retard.

This guy >>22176453 has it right. You're a retard.

>> No.22179993

>>22175982
I'm tempted to get the anatomy of melancholy, but im not sure if it beats both kaputt and Stalingrad and nothing but the night. 3vs1 hard choices here...

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>NEGROPHOBIA
Anybody have this?

>> No.22180016

>>22179993
If you absolutely must own TAoMelancholy you should get the fresh Penguin Classics paperback that comes out next week or so, which was painstakingly restored by its editor and not just a dodgy reprint like NYRB. (Beware of the hardback, it sucks apparently.)

YMMV of course, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

>> No.22180036

>Balcony in the Forest
>Amsterdam Stories
>A posthumous Confession
>Tarka the Otter
>Augustus
>Omer Pasha Latas
>Samskara

Opinions? Anything that I might switch?
I'm also picking these aren't spanish translations for any of these, at least in my country.
TAoM, Butchers Crossing and The Book of Blam are available where I live and we are having our biggest book fair in a month so I can wait for those.

>> No.22180053

Holy shit.
I just have to say how triggered I am by OP's picture.
What kind of fucking animal organizes their books by COLOR?

>> No.22180054

>>22180036
Why would you waste your time on John Williams cuck shit when you can perfectly read Antunes?!?!?!?

>> No.22180071

>>22180054
that helps me clear some options.
I think I'll start with Eça De Queiroz and then go with Antunes

>> No.22180076

>>22179993
I think it is a book best skipped for those who are unsure about it, it is great but in my experience if you do not fall in love with the idea alone reading it will not change your view and it will always remain a curiosity at best.
>>22180016
>reprinting the actual book = dodgy
>guessing about possible errors = good
I got strong Gabler vibes when I read about the Penguin edition. But I also got a very strong feeling that it was mostly marketing and nothing really is changed, no examples given on how it is improved or the like.

>> No.22180085

There are a lot of jews in this thread lol

>> No.22180097

>>22180085
Your faggot Jewish handlers arent going to give you a permanent position once your intern position runs out.

>> No.22180116
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>>22179521
That book is so weird. Rolfe is like the anti-Flannery O'Connor: instead of writing exactly what he knows (in her case, being Catholic and being southern), he was an uber-gay British aristocratic grifter who became so enamored with Catholic aesthetics that he went to seminary, only to be rejected, and buy a bunch of priestly garments and pretend to be a Catholic priest anyway.

Still schizokino but you need a strong understanding of Catholicism/geopolitics circa 1900 and a strong tolerance for bullshit

>> No.22180139

>>22180076
What do you mean by the idea alone? I honestly have had a hard time finding a concise explanation of the book. From my understanding it is about a guy talking about various mental emotions?/diseases? I have read online that people will just read random passages though, kind of similar to the bible? To me I feel like it sounds similar to my favorite book nausea by Sartre which is why im interested in it. But honestly it's hard to get a good description of what the book actually is.

>> No.22180176

>>22179004
Thoreau’s Journal 100%

>> No.22180191

>>22180139
>What do you mean by the idea alone?
1300 pages of 17c autism. It is like how incels and /pol/tards manage to make everything about their views and view everything through that singular myopic lens in a weird sort self supporting bit of recursion that feeds on itself and everything around it? it is like that but about depression and done by a guy with some serious intelligence and writing skill. You can just pop onto Gutenberg and read a few random bits to see what you think.

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>>22179004
Been thinking of picking this up. Earth Abides was fantastic

>>22179369
Start with Pascual Duarte unless you're specifically interested in the avant-garde elements of The Hive

>> No.22180262

>>22176425
Thank you, just added
>Speedboat by Renata Adler
>Novels in three lines : Felix Fenenon
>Right to be lazy by Paul LaFargue
to my cart, open to more recs.

>> No.22180345

>>22180226
Already got it. Thank you anyway.

>> No.22180347

>>22180005
Yes don't get it.

>> No.22180348

>>22180097
Meds

>> No.22180394

>>22176425
>fascist!!!!!
>incel!!!
stfu zoomer commie faggot

>> No.22180658

>>22180036
>Balcony in the Forest
I used to make fun of the anons going on about their lit waifu and all that retarded shit, but then Mona. Mona. Despite it all she remains, she continues on without letting it destroy her. She is everything Roger believed Jessica to be and more but unlike Jessica we don't have Pynchon to kick us in the balls, we just have Grange who we want to hate but only because we wouldn't have been able to do it. I had to stop making fun of those anons after Mona.

>> No.22180859

>>22180116
I thought it was an incredible read because you start out laughing at how ridiculous he is and then slowly see that his self-insert is all he has to deal with his ruined life. He was pretty bonkers and erratic and selfish, but deeply sad too.
He felt that the whole world had fucked him over, he was entirely alone with nothing but his faith, and he truly did think he was destined to be a priest to the point of refusing to accept any alternative. Hadrian was his only outlet for how thoroughly that broke him. Can you imagine being so firmly convinced of your own destiny that you see it every time you close your eyes, but the world refusing to let you follow it?

>> No.22180915

>>22180036
Tarka the Otter was my favorite book that I read last year.
Everybody should read Tarka the Otter

>> No.22181145

>>22180859
He was Neville Goddardmaxing and da shit
didn't work ? Many such cases

>> No.22181268

>>22180859
It was interesting in that light. Self-inserts in literature are something you'd associate with Chris Chan and other delusional Deviantart throwaways, not highly educated aristocrats

>> No.22181519

>>22179004
Bambi

>> No.22181681

>>22175982
Just ordered Other Men's Daughters and War and the Iliad, good times. Also, does anyone know where the cover for Other Men's Daughters comes from? I like the art style.

>> No.22181685

>>22181519
It's time for you to go to sleep

>> No.22181758

>>22179306
Which one?

>> No.22181859

>>22180394
kek found the fascist incel

>> No.22181994

>>22181519
I bought Bambi when it came out.

>> No.22182667

weird that no one has mentioned sorokin yet

>> No.22182693

>>22181859
Rough combo

>> No.22182725

>>22182693
many such cases!

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Did anybody read the Stones of Aran? What did you think about the books?

>> No.22183675

Really pissed off. Yale was having a 50% off sale and free shipping. I wanted buy field guides and the store wouldn't put the books in my cart.

>> No.22183691

>>22183675
>was
You deserved it and more for not sharing such a sale with /lit/.

>> No.22183698

>>22178099
the man without talent rips, I just ordered slum wolf

>> No.22183772

>>22183691
I only found 10 hours ago and didn't think anyone would care. The guy who said NYRB was having a sell was called a jewish shill.

>> No.22183820

>>22183772
>thread is filled with people discussing what to buy
>but op got called a jew so they don't count
First day on 4chan?

>> No.22183853

I trimmed my reading list and all the NYRB books got removed.

>> No.22184194

>>22180658
Mona was a nice character, but she wasn’t really developed further than her ‘childlike innocence’ that she embodies when Grange first sees her in the forest. In fact, it was kind of hard to read the sex scenes because up until that point she was literally described like a child.

Fr*nch authors just love describing love interests like children in their books, they just can’t help being nonces (and it is also incredibly lazy writing).

>> No.22184222

>>22184194
Did you miss her past? Everything she had been through? That is the entire point of her, despite it all she remained who she was and the view of her being childlike is Grange's view and important to understanding what Grange is going through. Mona was no child, she just did not let life beat her down.

>> No.22184288

>>22184222
Ok maybe I was a bit too harsh on the her character not being developed, but still, the pedo-writing around her just seems lazy.

> When he raised his eyes to the horizon, he noticed a figure some distance ahead of him splashing from puddle to puddle, still nebulous in the curtain of rain. In silhouette it looked like a little girl wearing a long, hooded cloak much too big for her and knee-high rubber boots; watching her pick her way along the uneven road, her back a little bent, as if she were lugging a leather satchel over her shoulder, he first thought it was a schoolgirl on her way home, though he knew there were no houses for at least two miles, and suddenly he remembered that it was Sunday; he began observing the diminutive figure more attentively. There was something that intrigued him in her way of walking; beneath the continuous patter of the downpour, to which she seemed quite oblivious, she certainly looked like a child playing truant. Sometimes she would jump over a puddle, feet together, sometimes she would stop beside the road and break off a branch- once she half turned round and seemed to glance behind her, as if to measure how much nearer Grange had come, then started hopping on one foot, kicking a pebble in front of her, ran a few steps, making the puddles dance--and once or twice, in spite of the distance, Grange even thought he could hear her whistling.

> From time to time Grange glanced at her surreptitiously; around the edge of the hood he could see only her glistening nose and mouth and the short chin set against the rain, but he was stirred to feel her near him, young and vital, supple as a fawn in the warm scent of wet wool. She had fallen in step with him of her own accord: it was as if she had taken his arm. Sometimes she turned her head slightly and the dark hood's edge revealed eyes the color of a brightening sky; whenever their eyes met they laughed a little without speaking, a laugh of pure de light. She had thrust her hands deep into the pockets of her cloak with the simple gesture of a farm girl afraid of frostbite.

> It's ostentatious!" she added, emphasizing the word with a meaningful look, as if she had just learned it-but again the chin held up her mouth to him and her eyes danced.

Two pages later he’s sucking her nipples.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not part of the ‘hacq’ crowd, I actually enjoyed the book, it’s just fr*nch people and their natural proclivities to being nonces.

>> No.22184290

>>22184288
Yes, that is Grange's view of her, how he sees her which is very important for understanding Grange and what he is going through. It is made clear that she is not a child and certainly has more life experience than Grange.

>> No.22184293

>>22184290
Still lazy writing and her ‘innocence’ and ‘gracefulness’ could have been so depicted through any other motif other than being childlike.

>> No.22184308

>>22184293
It is lazy for an author to be true to the character? You are completely missing that Grange is functionally entering a second childhood (possibly first) and learning what it is to live and experience life in that carefree childlike way. It is made clear that Mona is not a child and Grange's perception of her is a function of what he is going through and her child like behavior is a function of what she has been through. You are ignoring context and getting triggered. You should probably reread it, you missed a great deal.

>> No.22184328

>>22184308
Interesting how you read the book as Grange experiencing a second (or first) childhood, I didn’t think of it that way. I read it more as a historically specific account of the Phony war as well as something in the same vein as The Tartar Steppe.

>> No.22184335

>>22184328
Read it again and pay more attention to character development, you missed a great deal.

>> No.22184341

>>22184335
Don’t really care enough about it to read it again, plus I understand your reading of it and it makes sense.

Still just lazy writing, the same point could have been a lot better without the childlike epithets and metaphors.

>> No.22184343

>>22184341
Actually I take back what I said about lazy writing, it’s just fr*nch writing.

>> No.22184344

>>22183481
I haven’t but it looks interesting so bumping

>> No.22184362

>>22184343
You sound like a moron.

>> No.22184365

>>22184362
And I’m the one that’s meant to be triggered? You’re crying because I criticised your 7/10 book, weird hill to try and die on but you do you.

>> No.22184610

>>22177042
I loved this one too. Would recommend as well.

>> No.22184638

>>22179901
>improved title
The tartar steppe is thematically and aesthetically a better title

>> No.22184644

>>22180005
Who the fuck approved that ugly ass cover?

>> No.22184682 [DELETED] 

>>22175982
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>> No.22185493

>>22176048
>>22176067
It's not even a new translation of Swann's Way, it's from 1982. First line:
>Time was when I always went to bed early."
I understand the thematic placement of 'time' first but this sucks.

>>22177665
Her talent and ability got blown way out of proportion by e-girls when she died but she's a stylish writer, easy and fun enough read. Basically a party girl who took notes.

>> No.22185564

>>22185493
It’s basically new because no one read that fucking shlock because it’s atrocious. Is the best their jew lawyers could get rights to?

>> No.22185600

>>22184365
That was a different anon but I can not argue with the sentiment, you have the reading comprehension of a shoe and even when you admit you are wrong you say that you are still right.
>>22184638
But The Stronghold is what Buzzati wanted.
>>22185493
You have to make sacrifices when translating and generally if you are going for the best prose you sacrifice some meaning. I once spent a few days reading all of the translations of The Blind Owl, the one which accepted some awkwardness was by far the most effective. Sometimes the occasional awkward line can have profound effect on the whole. I give translators a bit more leeway these days.
>>22185564
Moncrieff is going into public domain now, Swann's Way already is public domain and the rest will be there in the next few years. Who ever has the rights to Moncrieff would probably give publishing rights to most anyone right now, their meal ticket is about to end.

>> No.22185612

>>22185600
>But The Stronghold is what Buzzati wanted
>no proof
>just trust me
One of the biggest fucking pseuds on this board

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How'd I do? Probably going to read Fat City first.

>> No.22186110

>>22185612
That's according to the new translator. Here's a link to an article where he discusses his translation.
https://www.publicbooks.org/crossing-the-tartar-steppe-a-new-buzzati/
The Tartar Steppe is still the superior title though.

>> No.22186128

>>22178430
>french transgressive author
That narrows it down to about a 50,000. Are we supposed to guess?

>> No.22186168

>>22175982
I was excited for this then I discovered the books were like $30, unless you're getting one of their many novellas. Clever of them to raise the price of their books right before the sale...

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>>22186110
In English shouldn't it be Tatar instead of Tartar?

>> No.22186222

>>22186189
Not necessarily. I think both terms have been used historically and are essentially interchangeable.

>> No.22186230

>>22186168
Most of their books are around $15, 1000 pagers are ~$25. Their pricing has been fairly consistent for years. Fuck off.

>> No.22186586

>>22186010
Very nice haul. Enjoy anon. Really like Moravia and I think Godard captured the spirit of his novels really well with his adaptations

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The only other NYRBs I currently own are the two Gaddis novels and Stoner.

>> No.22188179

>>22179004
name for that Japanese book?

>> No.22189052

Muh order
>Anatomy of Melancholy
>Memoirs from Beyond the Grave Part One and Part II Electric Boogaloo
>Stones of Aran (Just Volume One for Now, Volume Two was 30 bucks for some reason)
>Balcony in the Forest (The vehemence of the arguments in this tread sounded intriguing)

>> No.22189640

>>22176244
I'm convinced most of these faggot Neo-Nazis on here would spare any jews that sucks their dick. So just get good at pleasing uncut goi-cock and you'll be fine.

>> No.22189663

>>22177063
How many of those you read?

>> No.22189680

>>22177951
Get better at saving brother. I wont be buying anything this year either, but if this is annual then I'll be buying a few next year when I put aside the money for them. Or keep my eye out for these at used book sales (which only uses money from the "to spend" pot). You see friend money is just numbers and numbers are fun!

>> No.22189967

is there monthly book club worth it? $225 a year seems ridiculous (Canadian bux)

>> No.22189970

>>22189967
It is cheaper than buying the books individually.

>> No.22189972

>>22189970
yeah it is, but are the books any good or worth reading is the true question

>> No.22189974

>>22189680
The next one should be right before Thanksgiving. Last year this was July 4th weekend. They like to be stealthy for some reason
Probably something to do with Kabbala or some other Hebraic witchcraft

>> No.22189986

>>22189972
Some would say yes, some would say no. Personally I would say you get what put into it, if you reduce them to like or dislike than it will probably not be worth it.

>> No.22189990

>>22189974
Only the summer sale gets you 40% off everything, the others either offer less of a discount or limit what you get the discount on.

>> No.22190010

>>22189663
90%

>> No.22190047

must haves from NYRB? I have all the John Williams books by them but that's it.

>> No.22190122
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>>22175982
Didn’t know this was a thing. Thanks anons

>> No.22190138

>>22190047
Tarka the Otter
The Peregrine
The Goshawk
A Month in the Country
Akenfield
A Time of Gifts

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I really shouldn't make my backlog any bigger but oh well