/lit/ - Literature

>>22191655
>there are people here younger than the site itself

>>22191655
Anon, I've heard the same thing. And I'm 27 myself. and femoid, which means I'm hitting the wall if I haven't already . Just know that a lot of that logic doesn't apply to writers. For game dev and comics, there is a youth leaning. Mainly because the demographic is also young and so it's important to align with what's relevant to children today. But lots of writers don't take off until their mid thirties or forties. Of course, that's for their hits. For writers, you want to be producing. Even if it's shit. The worst thing you can do is be hardstuck on 1 novel for 10+ years. Unless you're in it for the art or literary merit, in which case it doesn't matter how well your writing does. You're doing it for you. But if youre concerned about brand/business, you need to start writing now. I would start with writing short stories and submitting them to magazines. Write several and submit each to alternate mags so you're not waiting months for approval before submitting another. Start by submitting at the highest regarded magazines first, then when rejected, submit to lower tier ones. If you want easy submission cred for your resume, submit to a local mag. They're literal whos that are happy to recieve anything. I'd also reccomend a writing partner or writing workshop if you have one. I have a weekly writers meet up on discord (although for screenwriting). You can find these on social media, and how to submit to mags on YouTube. To improve your writing, find a book (or better: short story) and copy it by hand to familiarize with writing style. Then, on the second go, write a similar short story that follows the same structure of the original, paragraph by paragraph. Let me know if you have questions. Or dismiss what I say cuz am dumbroastie, which honestly fair.

>>22191670
please please have sex with me

>I always hear anons saying that by the time you hit 30 and if you haven't accomplished anything by then, it's over
Most "anons" here can't even persuade a girl to touch their peepee by the time they're 30, so most of their opinions on accomplishments and timescales are dubious at best.

>>22191670
Jesus christ I'm a brainlet ignore me. If you mean general life survival unconnected to writing, none of this shit applies. Id reccomend therapy, but in terms of books, unironically Bible or any religious text if you're religious-curious, because what you have sounds like ultimately an existentialist issue. Otherwise there's a philosophy chart.

>>22191670
do the blue board equivalent of tits or gtfo.or thoughever as well, YWNBAW

>the vile stench of tuna and roast beef ITT

I'm 26 about to hit 27 and I'm struggling in finding the motivation to read books. It's not even like I don't find them very interesting or anything similar it's just that sometimes when I'm reading I think to myself what I want to actually gain from it, the ability to impress others? Become someone who might be more intelligent? I have a tough time justifying it, also I get thoughts in my head that maybe my reading comprehension might not be that great. At this point in time I should already have read different books or at least one, which I haven't yet and sometimes it makes me feel ashamed of myself.

>>22191670
i know this is as close to handholding as you can give me, but where do I find these mags? what are the big ones?

I am 382 years old and I sit in my little cave in the middle of nowhere masturbating for decades on end, without end, never-ending.

>>22191655
My advice as a 33 year old boomer who should seriously leave this site is this. Don't waste mental energy about worrying too much about what you need to do in your 20s. As the years pass you'll just get more anxious, stressed, and self-conscious about it as the clock ticks down to 30. You'll be more depressed and that's counterproductive. I'd also worry less about accomplishment and more about living a good life. The memories and experiences of your 20s will really shape who you are for the rest of your life.
Find the right balance between self-growth, pursuit of accomplishment, and shameless hedonism/relaxation while you can get away with it.
30s aren't much different except your energy isn't going up. It's peaked and plateaued. The hardest part about your 30s is that for most people by that time society has broken you in and you're forced to let work and careerism dominate your life. Your 30s can be a dream killer because you lose that grace period of your youth to still figure shit out.

>>22191688
Reading comprehension is a skill you can learn and get better at. Think of it like going to the gym. A year and a half ago I picked up reading after a long time, and I struggled to get through a simple steinbeck novel. Today, after spending that time consistently reading and improving the quality of book i am reading, like raising weights, I can tackle the densest examples of victorian prose/philosophical mumbo-jumbo without having to read over the text 10 times

>>22191692
The new yorker is the big one. It's also notoriously corrupt and full of nepotism. Others are Ploughshares, Paris review, Colorado Review, Agni, granta, Harper's magazine, the Atlantic, Iowa review, etc.
Burger land releases annual "best American short stories". They're short stories selected each year by a respected lit author. I'd pick one up. Or pick up 100 years of best American short stories, which is regarded as the best of the best. Obviously, everyone's opinion is different on what best is. Some of my fav authors picked stories I think are shit. But point is you can pick by year or author, and read to get an idea of what good stories are considered. I'd pick the ones you genuinely like (which can be few and far between. On average, I only like one story out of three issues of a magazine). And analyze the writing for the ones you like. Study it. Try to decipher why you like it. Also, the stories all say which magazine they were originally published. So you can see which magazine is most receptive for the types of stories you like to write. Keep in mind this is for literary fiction. There's different magazines for scifi and fantasy. I don't know what they are but I'm sure similar logic applies. I think those are mainly on websites now though.

>>22191688
You have to derive aesthetic pleasure from language. Sometimes you can find wisdom or insight. Or read for knowledge/information because of intellectual curiosity.

>>22191670
>>22191704
Shut the fuck up, retard

I spent my twenties blind drunk and high and out of psych wards (voluntary and involuntary).
I'm forty next year, and since turning thirty I've qualified as a charted accountant, have a salary to match, a mortgage, and got my first poems and short stories published.

>>22191716
Neat. What are your short stories about, anon? Did you go through mag or directly to publisher?

>>22191655
I read The Defining Decade: Why your twenties matter when I was circa your age. You should too.

I don't remember much from the book now, but I took away from it three (3) things that had helped me immensely to start building towards a life I'd like:
>1
Shit jobs lead to non-shit jobs. Can't stress this enough. I was selling ice cream at 16, shoes at 18, started working at a small law firm at 19 and got a gov job still as a college student.
>2
Who you are friends with matters. No need to be judgemental towards your peers, but make sure to have some friends that inspire you and motivate you.
>3
Connections are crucial and you make the most important ones without ever planning on it. You don't need to stress about making people owe you favours, you need to get out in the world and make acquaintances.

Also read pic related so that you know what not to do.

>>22191716
>got my first poems and short stories published
miniMAG doesn’t count

>>22191655
>muh 20s muh 30s
Materialistic nonsense.

>>22191688
A mind needs books like a boipussy needs meat.

— Tibidom Labia

>>22191721
>inspiring friends
How do I find these people? I live in nowhere land (and I'm disabled). All my friends are relatively unambitious. I'm ambitious myself but sometimes I feel completely alone. Where do I meet ambitious people (preferably online) to interface with on the regular?

>>22191737
Start by not being a total loser. No inspiring person wants to hang out with a loser. As they say, "Birds of a feather flock together." You may think you're inspiring, but in reality, you are just like your supposed uninspiring friends. You're welcome, anon.

>>22191719
Mainly blue collar slice of life Raymond Carver rip offs.
I try to avoid writing about my addiction/mental health stuff because a) it's been done to death and b) I have no cool anecdotes, it was all very boring
I send directly to magazines, no agent (not yet!)

>>22191749
Damn I want to read them but I know anons don't want to doxx themselves. Such is the fate of underwater basked weaving forum.

>>22191749
> Mainly blue collar slice of life Raymond Carver rip offs
>not done to death
You sound like every MFA faggot. Name one mag (just the name) that you have been published in

>>22191699
I read stuff and then to me I get scared that either I might not have understood it correctly, in which case I read it again and try to look up definitions, or that I might read it and forget about it afterwards which pretty much just means that my reading comprehension is actually pretty terrible in itself. I worry too much about this when I probably shouldn't but I feel really dumb when I read things and it's as if my brain doesn't pick it up the way that I want it to, making the entire purpose behind reading things lose its meaning. I should probably not think about these things and even if I don't initially pick it up the way that I feel like I should, continue reading no matter what.

Those people are delusional. Unless your father owns a South African emerald mine or is a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs or the like, there was virtually no chance at all that you’d be “successful” before you’re 30. That’s not to say that you shouldn’t shoot for success, but to keep that as a metric of success is utterly delusional. What you really want, ideally in my opinion, by the time you’re 30 is to have lived a bit radically and also to have a clearer understanding of yourself and what you should do with your life. It would be great if you could racked up some cursus honorum points for whatever you want to do as well, but that’s secondary. For example, for someone who is going to aspire to be a great writer, you know what would be great? If by the time they were 30, they had some life experience that could inform interesting writing and they had the conviction that writing is what they wanted to do with their life. It would be even better if they had written a lot and maybe published a bit, that is secondary. Do you understand what I’m illustrating here with this example? There is no formulaic approach to life. The number of great writers who had success in their 20s is innumerable, but among those that didn’t, we have Virgil, Dante, and many others. So it’s clearly not a matter of having success? I venture that it’s about living life, really living it apart from school seats and fluorescent lights over felt cubes and coding laptops, and simply figuring out who you are and what you want. And that’s it. If you know who you are and what you want at 30, you are in good shape because I can tell you virtually no one has that anymore. And beyond that, the only thing I can say is valuable to learn in your 20s is how to have the courage to stand out, be a loner, and so what’s difficult or scary, take risks, all of that which requires courage. Nobody gets anywhere without courage.

>>22191755
Most recently? A new journal called The Sourness of Grapes

>>22191793
Thanks for confirming your confabulations

>>22191777
based post

>>22191670
There's no way a real femoid has the attention span to write all this

>>22191655
start with the Greeks

>>22191777
Trips of truth

>>22191670
>don't worry, just keep chasing your writing dreams until you're 30
I agree that "it's over by x age if you haven't done y" is a cancerous and completely counterproductive narrative, the doomer stuff is just going to demoralize you and at 20 it's particularly absurd. But people that age need common sense advice and trying to write the great American novel for the next 10 years is not that.

>>22191655
Get employable skills asap, start working or building a portfolio you can show to potential employers if you're not already doing that (even minimum wage stuff or temp jobs or seasonal work is better than nothing, what you really want to avoid at 20 is getting locked out of the labor market, which can happen around 25-30). Don't fall for the productivity grindset meme either but don't center your life around your personal hobbies if they're humanities/arts related, do those in your spare time unless you are reaaaallly talented and motivated. Stop drinking and doing drugs if you haven't already, develop a social circle that has positive people in it, settle any beef you have with your family unless it's something seriously heinous. Stop going on 4chan and all other online timesinks to the greatest extent possible, this place is like a giant drain that you can piss years of your life down. Don't get caught up in comparing yourself to the people around you and don't invest too much emotionally in getting laid if you're an incel or haven't had a lot of sex or whatever. The important thing is incremental progress and that you are in a better place compared to where you are now in a day's time, a week's time, a month's time, a year's time, a decade's time. Always gonna be people better and worse off, completely counterproductive to think about that. As for women, a bunch of meaningless sex is going to bring exactly 0 longterm happiness, completely ignore it until you're financially and emotionally ready for a serious relationship is my advice. If you're in uni then do or don't drop out or switch majors depending on what you're studying. Same advice applies to bullshit Andrew Tate stuff as it does to women, if you spend a single second thinking about a rollex or a ferrari then you're losing and have to fix your mindset. Diet and exercise but you don't have to become some walking meme who posts on /fit/, just stay active and healthy. Develop routines to teach yourself some discipline.

And never ever think that it's too late but also NEVER let yourself think "oh well, I have time" because you don't, the years go by fast and there are some benchmarks where certain things become a lot tougher (like breaking into the labor market as a NEET past 25 like I mentioned). Hard work and determination can get you past that so no blackpilling yourself if you're lying and are over 30 or smt but you really, really don't wanna be in that situation so put in the work now.

>>22192478
>develop a social circle that has positive people in it
Also by positive here I mean people who aren't druggies, total slackers, immoral dirtbags, productivity drones etc. You want friends who want to succeed and want to see you succeed but have a healthy idea of what success actually is. Some stoner retard who sits on a couch all day will drag you down but so will so office freak whose only desire is to make middle management.

>>22191655
>>22192478
>develop a social circle that has positive people in it
Also by positive here I mean people who aren't druggies, total slackers, immoral dirtbags, productivity drones etc. You want friends who want to succeed and want to see you succeed but have a healthy idea of what success actually is. Some stoner retard who sits on a couch all day will drag you down but so will some office freak whose only desire is to make middle management.

>>22191655
>>22192478
>>22192492
And learn money too, 75/20/10 rule is a good way to start doing that. 75% of income for immediate expenses, 20% for your immediate enjoyment, 10% for savings and you can switch 20 and 10 if you want depending on how much crap you buy. Budgeting is not a replacement for not working though so don't let yourself justify staying a NEET because you're spending less if you're a NEET.

And one last thing, just wanna say again INCREMENTAL CHANGES. You are not going to see huge results in a week or a month, your life still won't be totally transformed in a year, and even in 10 you're gonna have problems. If you live in a fantasy world where you're aiming for Paradise on earth and think everyone around you who's a bit better off has that then you're gonna get discouraged when it doesn't arrive. Things can get a lot, lot better but it takes time and they don't ever become perfect, that's not what this world is.

>>22191670
It's even easier than this. There's a thousand shitty new media websites who need shitty hot takes about every mundane shitty thing that happens. There's never been so much demand for writing

>>22192492
Everyone says this but nobody says how. Is there online space to find these people? I literally cannot afford to move rn. And I live in a place that doesn't even have a Walmart.

>>22192626
It's mostly about being sociable, having some prudence (to avoid toxic people) and getting "lucky" I think.

>Is there online space to find these people?
There almost certainly is but what it is will depend on your interests. Omegle can be fantastic for finding people with a specific interest if you're willing to filter through 10 horny pajeets and boring people for every 1 person you click with and to have 20 interesting but ultimately meaningless conversations for every 1 person you meet who goes on to be a good of friend of yours. There are still old school forums kicking around and those tend to be more communally oriented than 4chan and reddit and can lead to serious friendships. Smaller hobbyist discords and subreddits might not be terrible idea depending on the hobby. Don't be afraid to PM people but do it on the basis of shared interests and not in a desperate "please give me attention way". Someone post something you're curious for more detail on? PM and ask for it.

And it's relatively easy to turn an online friendship into an irl one depending on your location. Worst case you can visit them now and then. Ofc that's something that comes a while down the line, you wanna develop a genuine rapport before you start hanging out probably, but I've done it, absolutely possible to develop meaningful friendships with people you meet online.

I can't give you a recipe though and when it comes to connecting to people in more spontaneous environments I'm as lost as you probably, maybe some other anons can go into more depth. I'm the guy who made those posts and I'm 26 and a big mess myself, mostly I know what not to do because I've done it myself and suffered the consequences and from having known people who started out alright and became complete wrecks. And know what to do by examining the bad decisions I've made and knowing people who were complete wrecks and totally turned themselves around (it does happen, one more reason blackpill shit is retarded).

>>22192626
>I literally cannot afford to move rn
Also this means you gotta start saving or you'll be literally unable to afford to move in a year or two also. If it's a goal of yours to move then start making incremental steps towards that goal, otherwise accept your situation. Those are your only 2 options in 100% of cases I can think of, the woe is me stuff is not gonna get you anywhere. Make due with what you have and if you truly cannot have something then you were never going to have it anyway, just wasn't meant for you, in which case getting depressed or resentful about not having it is stupid.

>>22192626
>I literally cannot afford to move rn
Also this means you gotta start saving or you'll be literally unable to afford to move in a year or two also. If it's a goal of yours to move then start making incremental steps towards that goal, otherwise accept your situation. Those are your only 2 options in 100% of cases I can think of, the woe is me stuff is not gonna get you anywhere. Use what you have to get where you wanna go and if you truly cannot get somewhere you wanna go then you were never gonna get there anyway, just wasn't meant for you, in which case getting depressed or resentful about it is stupid.

>>22191793
That doesn't even apply here does it, twit.

>>22192717
Wow you are so smart anon. It's definitely not a bad faith question by a bitter loser who will quibble and shit on whatever gets mentioned.

>>22191737
I am the anon you responded to but >>22191737 is kind of right. I met most people through some pursuit - education, an odd job, sport or a hobby. You are kind of missing the point if you think that's attainable online.

Sorry to hear you're disabled, I hope you find something to pursue regardless.

>>22192740
You sound like an insecure loser who keeps deflecting from answering the question.

>>22192743
>proving his point

>>22192784
Answer the simple question.

>>22191655
The Bible

>>22191759
adderall

>>22192478
When you turn 30 you realize you have 35 more productive years and you're basically still a retarded child.

>>22192514
Savings is pretty much completely retarded nowdays. Dump into mutual funds or bitcoin ANYTHING other than letting your money depreciate in a savings account.

Also learn to play the game with taxes. Google schedule C writeoffs. You should be writing off nearly 100% of your income taxes and pumping that money into a personal business of some kind. Paying full income taxes is for complete retards. I will not explain further.

Watch Hamza or 1stman on Youtube
That's a good start for changing your life

>>22192849
Retard

>>22193047
Only brainlets and goys pay taxes.

>>22191655
Books on NDEs and spirituality. Realize what actually matters and focus on that. And NDErs talk about how the meaning of life is to learn to love and be kind and thrive here despite how hard it is in this world, and that climbing the ladder of social status, making money etc is not going to matter at all in the life review in the afterlife.

>b-b-but NDEs are dreams or hallucinations somehow

Already explicitly refuted in the literature you likely have not read on NDEs. As one NDE researcher said that he does not know anyone who has read the literature on NDEs who has not been convinced by it, and the book in pic related is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife.

And NDEs are more real than this world, in every way. For example, they are more consistent experiences, illustrated well by this quote:

>"For me, life is sort of like the haunted house. When you come in, you know it's just an experience. It's small, it's just one night, right? So it's just this one life. You're eternal, you have billions of lives, so knowing that you're going to come in just for one to have an experience, though it may be judged as tough, or difficult, or scary, you actually chose it because you knew it was just going to be an experience, you know it's no big deal. You understand on the other side that this part, life, is actually the dream, and you just wake up after. It's no different than one dream you had last night, out of a lifetime of dreams. This life that you're having right now is just one, it's just a blip."

So just like life is more consistent than our dreams (dreams last a few moments, life has been the same for decades), so too is the NDE reality more consistent than life (life has been the same for decades, the NDE reality has been the same for forever, for way more than trillions of years). Here this point is elaborated more on:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

And it is instantly evident to NDErs that heaven is real too, even atheists:

>"It's real to us when we're in it, but once I was there in heaven I realized that's more real, that felt more real, and it made much more sense to me than anything here. This is kind of nonsensical at times. In heaven, it's so clear, so real, so rational, so logical, but yet emotional and loving at the same time. Immediately I knew that was real and this was not. Immediately."

From https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

So heaven is undeniably real. And what matters most is personal growth, not a career, social status, or money or fame, lol. Those are just peer pressure shiny distractions that spiritual n00bs i.e. NPCs fall for.

>>22193047
>savings 1.2% apy
>inflation -7% apy
>holding your money in savings costs you 5.8% interest per year in inflation
Look mom I'm SAVING! I'm a good goy!

>>22193469
Now that this is the conventional wisdom it's a really good idea to save, though not for too long. Wait until things implode, then buy everything cheap.

Here's a trick you can do right now if you're in your early twenties

Write down all the shit you'd like to have done by the end of the year. Nothing insane, more like your actual life goals, like getting /fit/ or losing 30 pounds, learning guitar, learning math or coding, getting that business idea set up or that project going, etc. Write them all down on a piece of paper and put them up on the wall so you have to see them every day. Then when December 31st rolls around, and you've done 1/4th of one item on the list and nothing fucking else, walk to the opposite side of the room, and run as fast as you can headfirst into the wall where you put up the list, so you knock yourself out and shit your pants. Congratulations you just experienced 1% of the pain of being 30 and realizing you were an unreliable little bitch who apparently couldn't be trusted to do a single fucking thing he said he was going to do.

Now take that 1% and make a new resolution that you have to actually have all those tasks done by summer of next year, and even add some more reasonable goals you've come up with in the meantime, and do the whole process over again. And when the July 1st rolls around and you have done 1/2 of 2 of your tasks and nothing fucking else, kill yourself.

>>22193474
Just 2 more weeks and then the housing prices will adjust!

>>22193482
this but unironically

>>22193510
Keep hoping millenials!! Soon the boomers will die off and vacate their houses!! And blackrock and vanguard and zillow won't buy it and then charge you rent!!

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>>22193521
you can't buy a house anyway so what's your point

>>22193534
The American dollar is collapsing. The American empire is collapsing.

>>22193544
>The American empire is collapsing.
I used to think that too but I'm not as sure anymore. The demographics aren't as bad as the competitors. I do hope America collapses, let's see what happens.
>The American dollar is collapsing
Yes but it doesn't happen in a straight line. There was significant inflation before the 2008 crash too. It's the same pattern every time. Inflation -> crash -> inflation as a response to the crash

>>22193594
They will roll out cbdc first. The yuropoors are getting it first.

thinking about working at mcdonalds for the rest of my life. It's a job I at least enjoy somewhat, although maybe I'm just perpetually deluded by nostalgic feelings. I'm in a hopeless place right now where my suicidal thoughts are starting to scare me.

>>22194655
Start by capitalizing your sentences.

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>>22191655
the only thing you need is a good meditation resource *cough* DR K's guide *cough*.
Aside from that you need to learn how to make good decisions which I do not have a good resource for, so just try to understand the hidden meaning in the events and the words of people around you I guess.

>>22191725
It’s not though. Certain possibilities will exist later in life only because of what you did earlier in life. It’s rather not that the right choices guarantee certain possibilities but that the wrong choices guarantee impossibility of certain things. For example, if you spent your 20s drinking and working retail, it’s probably not possible to become the President. Everyone implicitly understands this dynamic but doesn’t want to articulate it because the implications are hard to face, namely, that your life was decided to some degree before you even knew you were deciding.

It wasn't until he was 38 when Jack Nicholson won his first academia award and it wouldn't be until he was 43 that he:d hit it big with The Shining
You have your whole life ahead of you and you think it's over by the time you're 30? you're barely, if at all, born by the time you're 30

>the time you hit 30 and if you haven't accomplished anything by then, it's over.
Why?
I'm going back to college at 31, I did absolutely nothing from 2014 to 2022.

>>22195746
IT is definitely not over if IT is defined as some degree of success, especially social, economic, academic, or career success. IT is certainly not over if it’s defined as spiritual, mental, or physical “success”. For other sorts of success, like artistic, literary, political, military “success”, IT may be over. I’m not absolutely sure, but I suspect it may be. So it really just depends on what IT is.

>>22195727
Did Jack Nicholson act for the first time at 31…?

Also, who aspires to be Jack Nicholson? Making it as a writer and making it as an actor, are different sorts of things. What you’re making it as matters. If you aspire to make it as a pro ball player, but you’re 24 with no prospects, you’re fucked. That’s just how it is. Why is it so easy to accept this regarding sports but nothing else?

>>22195764
You're ridiculous if you think 4channers are into "sports".

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>>22191670
Saramago didnt start writing his first novel until he was 55 and then became one of the greatest writers of his region

>>22192478
This is actually pretty retarded saying you get locked out of the labor market, lol. At 30 you still have the entire length of your life plus 5 years of career time by conventional Western standards. I know many people whove transitioned to completely unrelated fields in their 30s, 40, and even 50s.
I had a cousin who was a carpenter that enrolled in university at like 34 and now is some kind of computer worker. My mom who was a bank teller went to school in her early 40s and got a degree in social work, which she spent the rest of her working years doing until she retired last year.
It might be harder at 30 if youve soent like 12 years as a minimum wagie or a neet to develop positive traits to advance your career, but thats only because by that time bad habits that lead to neetdom become pretty hard wired and take a lot of effort to break.
For most careers its going to take 4-6 years at max to get what you need to know to do the job, then the rest is just garnering experience unless you happen to be one of the truly gifted individuals who can advance their field. Ergo, for the vast majority even if you start right out of high school by 30ish you will likely have topped out in your career, from that point the only advantages youll gain in what you do over time is experience.
Unless you are like 60, in which by the time you accumulate the educational recs youll be at retirement age, its not too late to change a career, whether you are transitioning from an engineering job or neetdom. It just takes perseverance and effort, as well as ambition.

*** note ****
One thing that you cant change with age is ohysical condition. Start Excercising ASAP. Im 28 now and only just started lifting last year, if theres one thing I could change I wouldve started at OPs age. Theres nothing you can do to stop muscle aging, and building a strong frame is much easier if you do it shortly after puberty. It will make it much easier to stay in shape the older you get if you start with a solid base while you are still very young.

>>22195778
Mentioning Saramago counts as a reco

Anyone else learn to stay on topic

Go to /adv/ if you have to

>>22195773
It was just an example.

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>>22195825
any place or book where you find this kind of knowledge ? just real life experiences of older people they would like to pass on to young people

>>22192514
>75+20+10 = 100
maths lvl 9000+

>>22191655
the reason most people don't "accomplish" anything after 30 is most of the time they've settled with whatever life they've got. If you wanna be a bukowski or whatever, just keep trying after 30, but most people realise that chasing fame or whatever isn't what they thought it would be.
There are exceptions, like i mentioned, but most reasonable people with at least some diversity in skills find other values in life than "accomplishing" something so that others can laud them for it.

>>22195764
You're seriously dumb and I'm extremely tired of dumb people replying to my posts

>>22191667
he's 3ish months older

>>22191675
I basically live in supported living nowadays and I think I lucked out at getting laid at 20 considering how socially retarded I was back then,

>>22191721
>Shit jobs lead to non-shit jobs. Can't stress this enough. I was selling ice cream at 16, shoes at 18, started working at a small law firm at 19 and got a gov job still as a college student.
This feels like the sort of advice that could end poorly, especially as the economy withers. I works getting a zoomer to start early and begin pushing upwards, but if they hit any rut and get stuck in a shit job they will be fucked.

However, 2 and 3 are absolutely true and frankly let me skip the shit job phase and jump right into contracting, and I proceeded to return the favor to my friends and use my connections to get them jobs. I'll take it a step further any say that ride and die friends are mandatory at this point if you want to make it through the next decades.

>>22191737
Unfortunately I can't help with this. I kept my core friend from High School and he kept a network of friends at his college who he introduced, were friends of my friends, and slowly became my friends as well as I got to know them when my original friend was busy. Beyond that, hoi4 modding oddly enough had some people in relevant global positions that I got to know when I was helping play test their mod.

>>22191655