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>Plato
childless
>Nietzsche
childless
>Schopenhauer
childless
>Kant
childless
>Hume
childless
>Hobbes
childless
>Locke
childless
>Kierkegaard
childless
>Spinoza
childless

why does philosophy kill your bloodline?

>> No.22298119

>>22298105
Because you perceive the worthlessness of the world so much more vividly than hypersocialized faggots that are completely unreflective because they have to go meet Bradley for brunch on Saturday morning!

I’ve read all of the vols of world as will and representation, and a smattering of other philosophy. I also work in an airport and see thousands of people everyday. They’re all disgusting and ugly to me. The whole mass of society, men trapped in shitty marriages and forced to be a plow horse for their children. Women’s feral and underdeveloped slave-to-their-emotion su humanity yet we see them as this awe inspiring thing.

It’s all repulsive to me. So that’s probably how they think as well. Why bring a kid into this world to suffer and slowly decay and die with the only consolation being a brief several years of youth? Thankfully I enjoyed my childhood but there’s so many fucking losers that just didn’t enjoy anything in their youth and now they’re supposed to just plod on until death when they couldn’t even enjoy the best part? Lol fuck that

>> No.22298123

because when you are immortal you don't need a bloodline

>> No.22298137

>>22298119
Man it blows that even a good childhood can't prevent someone from turning out this shitty and bitter

>> No.22298139

>muh bloodline
Ape cope desu

>> No.22298156

>>22298105
Because they prioritize other aspects of life that only humans can accomplish rather than spending decades of their life to create half-copies of themselves that goats also do

>> No.22298157

>>22298119
>I’ve read all of the vols of world as will and representation
There are 2

>> No.22298160

>>22298119
Holy based
>>22298137
cynical != bitter you dense fuck

>> No.22298170

>>22298119
Correct and smart to not fall for societies brainwashing. I could not have expressed this better myself.

>>22298137
He is correct. Life is shit.

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>>22298160
I call em as I see em

>> No.22298173

>>22298105
Because they thought with their brains rather than their dicks

>> No.22298179

>Plato
The whole world knows
>Plato’s neighbor who fucked
0.005% genes remain 2500 years later

>> No.22298194

>>22298179
>>22298123
and yet if Plato had sons, they also could have been immortal, and the world might be a little better than it is.

>> No.22298200

>>22298119
>I've read one text through from the one of the most pessimistic philosophers in history, and this is what I think, so it's probably what all famous philosophers think too
>>22298105
Because they're too busy doing philosophy. Most famous mathematicians, physicists, etc. also don't have children. They gain more satisfaction out of solving problems, and they value their ability to do so more than starting a family. the main exception I can think of is Euler, but he was doing high level math in his head after going blind in both eyes, so he's probably not a fair standard to hold.

>> No.22298201

a man's heredity to the world can accomplish far more and last far longer as a non physical one
but that said a biological one is at least something for a little while, if you are nowhere in the league of those people

>> No.22298230

>>22298119
>I also work in an airport and see thousands of people everyday
Nobody is at their best in the airport. And the people who work at airports are all power tripping little bitches

>> No.22298244

>>22298200
>the main exception I can think of is Euler
Gauss also had a family. And a lot of other mathematicans. Mathematicans fuck. So it has nothing to do with solving problems. It's just philosophers that are non-functional dicked faggots.

>> No.22298279

>>22298244
>And a lot of other mathematicans. Mathematicans fuck.
Like who? I agree mathematicians fuck, but the absolute most successful ones (especially I'm thinking of Newton or Neumann) avoided it. In my personal life my mathematics professors were usually more neurotic and isolated, whereas my philosophy professors tended to be people persons and relatively well-adjusted.

>> No.22298327

>>22298279
>Like who?
Riemann? Cauchy? Poincare? Those are the most relevant I think with Euler and Gauss.

>Newton
He was also a philosopher, his physics just happened to be more influental historically. The philosopher part is what made him not fuck.

>Neumann
What are you talking about, he had wife and kids

>> No.22298334

>>22298105
Socrates had children.

>> No.22298370

>>22298334
i know he's based

>> No.22298400

>>22298327
Actually, Schopenhauer had children that died in infancy. Aristotle had a son. Socrates had three. Hegel had two. Heidegger had one biological son.

>> No.22298532
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22298532

>manages to write the most mountainous, titanic, complex, devoted system of philosophy ever put to paper yet maintains a highly active teaching career, fame in his own lifetime, and a family

>> No.22298547

>>22298105
Once you reach a certain level of understanding of human existence, you either make the rational choice not to procreate and force it onto someone else, or you're just so autistic and unapproachable that you simply can't find a willing mate anyway.

>> No.22298554

>>22298119
>I work at an airport
The absolute state of /lit/ in anno domini 2021+2, holy shit.

Stop being a prole, you're not allowed to speak until then.

>> No.22298556

>>22298400
>Schopenhauer had children that died in infancy.
>incessantly bemoan the negative aspects of life and how it is fundamentally not worth living in most cases
>have children

He's a fraud.

>> No.22298628

>>22298160
>calling someone a “fuck”
This! So much this!

>> No.22298665

>>22298532
Literally who?

>> No.22298677

>>22298665
>Literally who?
lurk more newfag

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>>22298554
good god look at the time

>> No.22298691

>>22298400
>Schopenhauer had children that died in infancy.
The source of this a letter written by a far away roastie

>>22298556
Schopenhauer told a roatie that she can come with him to other city to escape the plague but he never said anything about his "child" which wasn't probably his.

>> No.22298708

>>22298105
Well here's a fucking revelation. He did corrupt the youths. Still does. Athenians were right.

>> No.22298729

>>22298690
Is that Elon Musk

>> No.22298743

>>22298105
because thinkers all live in their heads and don't feel the need to get out and socialize and be around others that normies feel

>> No.22298773

>>22298729
Yes

>> No.22298776

>>22298743
It’s actually a much more pleasant experience than having to discuss Game Of Thrones anyday, despite the latter technically being literature.

>> No.22298782

>>22298776
Nobody gives a fuck about Game of Thrones any more, move on

>> No.22298797

>>22298776
yeah until you're an old man in a nursing home getting beaten daily by niggers

>> No.22298844

>>22298782
I wouldn’t know as I don’t like to engage with the outside world unless I need something from someone

>> No.22298850

>>22298797
Well that’s the issue there…I’m no huge fan of Clarence Thomas but if we can do with that ruling of his and expand it from colleges to all walks of life, we would save ourselves a shit load of grief.

>> No.22298867

How many children did Socrates have?

>> No.22299019

>>22298119
These guys were aristocrats, or generally from well off families with brilliant minds. I don't understand how you can feel like your mindset compares to theirs?
>Nietzsche
>Kierkegaard
Those guys were ill for most of their adult life.

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>>22298867
A lot

>> No.22299171

>>22298105
Because they were BASED and REDPILLED

>> No.22299181

>>22298119
good post

>> No.22299187

>>22298119
Now this is a fpbp

>> No.22299189
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22299189

Sex is monkey bullshit bro

Empedocles - no kids, an hero
Heraclitus - no kids
Silenus - no kids
Parmenides - no kids
Plato - gay nigga
Epicurus - no kids
Epictetus - no kids
Seneca - no kids, an hero
Buddha(not Siddhartha) - no kids
Bodhidharma - no kids
Nagarjuna - no kids
Jesus - no kids
Abhinavagupta - no kids
Shankaracharya - no kids
Mani - no kids
Al-Kindi - no kids
Al-Farabi - no kids
Averroes - no kids
Avicenna - no kids
Aquinas - no kids
Spinoza - no kids
Kant - no kids
Pascal - no kids
Leibniz - no kids
Hume - no kids
Kierkegaard - no kids
Fourier - no kids
Schopenhauer - no kids
Stirner - no kids
Mainländer - no kids, an hero
Nietzsche - no kids
Weininger - no kids, an hero
Michelstaedter - no kids, an hero
Spengler - no kids
Wittgenstein - gay nigga
Zapffe - no kids
Weil - no kids
Evola - no kids
Arendt - no kids
Beauvoir - no kids
Sartre - no kids
Debord - no kids, an hero
Caraco - no kids, an hero
Cioran - no kids
Althusser - no kids
Kripke - no kids
Feyerabend - no kids
Foucault - gay nigga
Kaczynski - no kids
Gray - no kids
Land - no kids
Kastrup - no kids
Brassier - no kids
Benatar - no kids
Thacker - no kids

>> No.22299200

>>22298691
ESL antinatalist coper.

>> No.22299213

>If A implies B in my headcanon
>Then B MUST imply A as well !
>I am not a retarded ugly ass anti-social incel, I am le hekkin philosopher !

>> No.22299230

>>22298119
You should unironically write a blog

>> No.22299250

>>22298157
There are multiple unauthorised sequels (written by me)

>> No.22299262

>>22298105
>Plato goes further. He says with an innocence possible only for a Greek, not a “Christian,” that there would be no Platonic philosophy at all if there were not such beautiful youths in Athens: it is only their sight that transposes the philosopher’s soul into an erotic trance, leaving it no peace until it lowers the seed of all exalted things into such beautiful soil.

Hmm, I wonder why...

>> No.22299288

Children are a colossal hassle, we are programed not to kill them biologically like some reptiles will because of the limits of human females. If you are trying to write a book to revolutionize the way people think you probably just don't have the time to deal with children. All great philosophers either go monk mode and stay that way, fuck hookers and play the illegitimate roulette wheel, or engage is down low homosexual activities, or open homosexual activities depending on cultural mores. Look, this system has worked for thousands of years, while philosophical inquiries into the nature of it are appreciated, it is a finely honed science at this point. Plus, don't even get me started on having to talk to women in order to find a suitable mate, that already is such a colossal soul crushingly depressing endeavor as is, just let the philosophers do their work.

>> No.22299291

>Thus the philosopher abhors marriage, together with all that might per-suade him to it, – marriage as hindrance and catastrophe on his path to the optimum. Which great philosopher, so far, has been married? Heraclitus, Plato, Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, Schopenhauer – were not;
indeed it is impossible to even think about them as married. A married philosopher belongs to comedy, that is my proposition: and that exception, Socrates,the mischievous Socrates, appears to have married ironice, simply in order to demonstrate this proposition. Every philosopher would say what Buddha said when he was told of the birth of a son: ‘Râhula is born to me, a fetter is forged for me’ (Râhula means here ‘a little demon’)

>> No.22299409

>>22298105

because they were all beta faggots. philosophy is nothing more than a fancy term for "self help".

>> No.22299417

>>22299189
Land, Nick? He's married to an ugly jew and has two kids

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>>22298105
Because that which you would make your child the progeny of, you make into the world you live in, a much greater feat of reproduction than any children you could ever have; it may not be entirely good to the full extent, but it definitely explains their reproductive apathy as concise as possible.

>> No.22299447

you know these things called baby mommas exist.

go knock up a few 5/10 women fulfill the biological imperative, then go fuck off and think/write/create etc etc

I have 5 biological children I've never seen.

>> No.22299448

>>22298119
atrociously based

>> No.22299453

>>22299213
/thread
Stopped reading here

>> No.22299501

>>22298105
Philosophers know they're too schizophrenic to have and raise children.

>> No.22299508

>>22298105
Bloodlines are a spook lol

>> No.22299511

>>22298105
Hegel and German Idealsits(king of everything) - father of legitimate children(Hegel had a bastard too)

>> No.22299513

>>22298119
That is not the reason many philosophers don't have kids. It may be your idiotic reason, but its not theirs.

>> No.22299522

>>22299189
>Beauvoir
She has kids. Its one of her many internal drama's.

>> No.22299528

>>22298105
Socrates, Hegel, Heidegger, and Deleuze all had kids and those are the only good philosophers anyway. The rest are brainlets if you really think about it.

>> No.22299572

>>22299528
>language and math are braindead
Brilliant analysis there, champ.

>> No.22299586

>>22299189
>Sex is monkey bullshit bro
>Foucault - gay nigga
Anon, I...

>> No.22299752

>>22298665
Lord Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (PBUH), the greatest philosopher forevermore.

>> No.22299854

>>22298119
>>22299230
Seconded. I want to a daily blog on your encounters at the airport OP.

>> No.22299864

>>22298105
You say their bloodlines are killed, yet they're immortalized forever in our minds. We carry on their memetic spirit.

>> No.22299917

>>22299447
>bring whole five broken and bitter cunts to this world who will be growing up without proper upbringing because their father is a pseud faggot with nigger-tier understanding of responsibilities
Truly the cancer of this world. kys, my man

>> No.22299925

>>22299447
Has being a shitty dad enabled you to write that masterpiece yet?

>> No.22299991

>>22299917
Obliterated

>> No.22300000

>>22299991
>expose yourself as the absolute scum with no moral principles whatsoever and an opposite of what subjects of the thread considered a human
>complete your worthless shitpost with r*ddit spacing
>rightfully get laughed at
>"y-y-y-you mad..."
lmao
Okay, pal

>> No.22300001

>>22299213
That is essentially the Socratic method.

>> No.22300022

>>22298105
My ancestors!

>> No.22300028

>>22300000
Morality doesn't exist. Why would I be mad? You're the one aggressively asserting that moral criteria are objective. Seems like you're mad, meanwhile I have nothing to be angry about.

>> No.22300043

>>22300028
I didn't say you were, retardo. Neither am I, despite whatever you say. If anything, slightly sad because of the worthless chimps like you multiplying suffering in this world.
>I have nothing to be angry about
Because you're an egoistic asshole, yeah, I know.
>Morality doesn't exist.
Oh, so you're 12. Good to know you were larping, then. You know you shouldn't be posting here, right, kid?

>> No.22300060

>>22300043
So you haven proven morality is real or that what I did is wrong. Why are you still just rageposting with no substance? What do you hope to achieve here?

>> No.22300080

>>22298105
>>22298119
Anyone who says they're too smart to bring children into the world is an objective fucking liar, they are 100% just unfuckable and mentally ill and have no shot at reproduction with anyone other than a fellow dreg.
The real reason philosophy "kills" your bloodline is that normal people with families and responsibilities don't sit around in an armchair theorizing about human interactions. They live it. It's a certain kind of person who is immediately excluded from the human race to begin with and it's disproportionately these types getting deep into "philosophy", almost always some incredibly deprecating view of the masses that rejected them.

>> No.22300088

>>22300080
>I'm LIVING LIFE BRO, what are you doing bro?
No one who posts like this is over 25. No one.

>> No.22300097

>>22300000
Quints of based. I'm the guy you quoted, I meant you pushed the other guy's shit in, wasn't saying you're mad. Other dude's a faggot.

>> No.22300112

>>22298105
Chad Socrates; 2 hos.
Tells you all you need to know.

>> No.22300113

>>22298105
being a gay retard gets you no bitches, who knew?

>> No.22300123

>>22300088
>can't think
>can't read either
Rough anon. Let me rephrase it for you. Normal people don't have gaping holes in their lives because they're not outcast spergs. They don't spend decades of their lives coming up with unified theories of how humans interact because they routinely interact with other humans, including their children. Op asks why philosophy seemingly ends bloodlines but I'm just explaining the philospher class and the incel class are the same, that he has it back to front. Those men were never going to breed and if it wasn't philosophy it would've been model trains or their literary equivalent of anime or some such sperg pursuit.

>> No.22300126

>>22300113
I love the zoomercel revisionism involved in assuming every great philosopher was some stammering unfuckable dork. Thinking at the level these men do precludes whatever bullshit teen movie trope you faggots are obsessed with

>> No.22300133

>>22300123
>philosophers were all incels or latent model train spergs
Don't you ever get tired of never having outgrown teen movie tropes?

>> No.22300159

>>22298105
Serious engagement in philosophy requires full commitment, which is possible with a rather monastic lifestyle, if not in form, then in essence. So there is neither strength nor time left for the family, and most often there is no desire.

Yes, Socrates had a family. About which it is known that his wife was stupid and grumpy, and her sons were only stupid. The philosopher finds the continuation of "kind of" in the disciples, and not in biological children, who in most cases do not have even a shadow of the father's abilities.

>>22298532
Shitty philosopher, good family man.

>>22298194
Almost always, nature rests on the children of geniuses. Most likely they would only be a disgrace to the father's name. Children of Plato: Academics.

>> No.22300693

>>22299447
How did you get away with not paying child support? How did you even find and get those women to agree to be pregnant?

>> No.22300765

>>22299447
“Unless, said I, either philosophers become negroes in our states or those whom we now call our negroes and hustlers take to the pursuit of philosophy seriously and adequately, and there is a conjunction of these two things, hustlin and philosophic intelligence, while the whitey horde of the natures who at present pursue either apart from the other are compulsory excluded, there can be no cessation of troubles, dear Glaucon, for our states, nor, I fancy, for the human race either. (473d-e)”

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>>22298105
this is a friendly reminder to /lit/ that it's very easy to be saved from hell fire and enter into the Kingdom of God. watch this gospel video if you aren't 100% sure that you'd go to heaven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf3uF0juIVI

"Once Saved Always Saved" - a MUST WATCH sermon for people who are doubting their salvation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Wgx-WYntY

also, fake Christians that preached works based salvations or other false gospels are cursed by God and they can never enter into the Kingdom of Heaven and they can never be saved from hell fire. pic related.

>> No.22301380

>Cauchy
family man
>Euler
family man
>Gauss
family man
>Cantor
family man
>Minkowski
family man
>Russell
family man
>Bohr
family man
>Planck
family man
>Schroedinger
family man
>Einstein
family man

STEMchads, we can't stop winning

>> No.22301529

>>22298105
Avoiding women is further proof of their intelligence

>> No.22301547

>>22301380
Socrates also had a large number of children, if Aristotle is to be believed.

>> No.22301561

>>22299409
Hi, Wittgenstein, you zesty ass nigga.

>> No.22301602

>>22298119
> Why bring a kid into this world to suffer and slowly decay and die with the only consolation being a brief several years of youth?
Because Im a self-centered egoist. Albeit, I dont really like the whole bourgeois idea of “marriage“ ,let alone a religious one.

>> No.22301730

>>22301547
I'm reading Apology of Socrates rn and he says there that he has 3 children. But maybe he means just with this wife idk.

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>>22298105
They secured their continuations in their ideas and books which have influenced the world much more than any possible children could have.

>> No.22301772

>>22299200
>is proven wrong
>accuses other anon of cope in a cope post
>”uh…uh…anti-n-natalist! yeah…that’ll show him!”

Pseud detected

>> No.22302255

Look at all these virgins... and trying to justify it on the internet. Just admit you can can't get bitches and move on.

>> No.22302268

>>22299189
Ask the Mormons about Jesus

>> No.22302269

>>22298105
they were all fags

>> No.22302271

>>22299409
No it’s definitely not. What does metaphysics have to do with self help?

>> No.22302278

>>22299917
>>22299925
>>22300693
Roastie hands typed these posts

>>22300028
Okay onw to rape your mother

>> No.22302302

>>22298119
fpbp

>> No.22302331

>>22299447
The post that broke roasties

>> No.22302345

Philosophers are insufferable to know as people. Just look at /lit/ and how many people here desperately try to act like philosophers.

>> No.22302417

>>22300080
The average man (women are irrelevant other than being a tool useful for higher powers to run their propaganda through) works a job he hates, has kids who hates him, and has gotten divorce raped. Do you not see how miserable almost every adult couple is lol. This comment only makes sense if your a woman, if so just lol.

>> No.22302461

>>22298119
The fuck is Bradley?

>> No.22302481

>>22298105
next up: me
but my twin brother is getting married soon so there’s hope haha

>> No.22302498

>>22300080
Okay, Nietzsche...

>> No.22302499

>>22298119
I don't agree this is the reason, I do believe a family life hinders their mission to search for truth.

I do however have the same exact sentiment as you. I was raised in a Christian family, when I was a kid my father and sibling would beat me up if I didn't attend the Sunday's School at the Church. They're not very bright, and their best reason for a man to get married and have an offspring is because the bible told them so.

My father in particular is very stupid. I am 27 years old and I never learned anything from him. He's a coward, a liar, and didn't have his own principles, he parrots whatever was told to him. Typical for a religious person. If he chose a woman within his league I would have had a better father, or not be born at all which is better. My mother accepted him even after cheating so I guess she's equally retarded as well, and so am I, I guess.

>> No.22302501

>>22299189
>Sex is bullshit
>Sartre

Anon I....

>> No.22302520

>>22298137
Great argument for antinatalist :^)

>> No.22302526

>>22298160
He's clearly bitter in addition to being cynical tho...

>> No.22302535

>>22298172
I look like this and think this

>> No.22302539

How much greek mythos do I need to know before reading The Iliad and The Odyssey. I know next to nothing about the Greeks and the Trojan war except the memes.

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>>22298194
Ikr, I am grieved whenever I think about all the Martians that don't exist. They could be the ones to cure cancer!

>> No.22302542

>>22302539
To add I don't want to read 500 pages of mythos before I even dip my toes in Greek stuff. Maybe I should check some YouTube for bare minimum and dip my toes in Greeks

>> No.22302543

Curiousity led me to read Ecclesiastes. Holy crap even the bible advocates anti-natalism! I thought the bible was supposed to be pro-birth and stuff?!

>> No.22302548

>>22298201
Yes, this explains the success of Africa and India

>> No.22302550

>>22298119
Beyond retarded which is probably why you work at an airport

>> No.22302554

>>22298119
Why don't your kind just die already so we can stop listening to your bickering?
Seems like you aren't trying hard enough.

>> No.22302568

>>22302539
Go watch the 2 seasons of Great Greek Myths on Tubbi

>> No.22302585

>>22299189
>Like ten literally who antinatalist philosophers

Lol. Lmao even.

>> No.22302592

>>22299250
Based

>> No.22302597

>>22299262
How the fuck can Plato comment on Christianity?

>> No.22302602

>>22302554
>Bickering

Ironically you are the shill one facilitating bickering.

>> No.22302606

>>22298105
Socrates and Aristotle both had children THOUGH

>> No.22302787

>>22298137
>>22298554
>>22302550
>>22302554
>t. Hypersocialized Normie faggots who knee-jerk evaluate someone based on their job title.

I make “””60k a year””” to hide from people, shitpost, and read war and peace on the clock as a security guard. There is literally no other job where you get paid to sit around. Might get a steam deck so I can paid to play video games too

>> No.22302844

>>22298105
all had Klinefelter

>> No.22302850

>>22302585
>literally who
Kek, lurk the fuck moar pleb

>> No.22302859

>>22298105
>why does philosophy kill your bloodline?
it doesn't. Sophistry & midwit rhetoric does. Any philosopher worth any salt would've consulted the possibilty of conciousness being intertwined with reproduction & lineage survival, and that the only real way of trying to tackle the problem of trying to understand existence in all its essence would be to atleast try preserving as much of 'conciousness' as much as we can.

>> No.22302867

>>22302859
no

>> No.22302955

You're a talking monkey on a blue board that surprasses dialogue beyond plato and this is how you repay us???

>> No.22302958

>>22302955
C'mere. I love you.

>> No.22302960

>>22298105
Is this the antinatalist spammer’s new schtick?

>> No.22302964

>>22299925
Kek. Btfo

>> No.22303040

>>22298554
you're the biggest faggot ITT

>> No.22303048

>>22302787
Judging other people based on their job really speaks a lot about their personality. To think we have such immense faggots on /lit/ of all places..

>> No.22303179

>>22300001
The socratic method implies spoken dialog with someone that can call out your bullshit when you're being a smartass, and Plato was probably against the written form because it encourages this sort of thinking and can propagate it in non self critical individuals.

>> No.22303232

Bring born is worse by design.
>Everything that is born, has to die.
Fear of death is the most frightening thing, that is why 95% of the population uses one cope or the other to deal with it. Let's say you are one of the few brave men, who has conquered this fear without resorting to using any cope then...
>Death of your loved ones, especially the next generation
You may not fear your own death, but watching your loved ones pass away is a dreadful experience. You might try to reason that everyone dies and this may help you with your parents and older members of your family. But what your children. Nothing hurts a parent more than having to bury your own child. But let's say you are man of great wisdom and courage, this brings us to...
>Genetics and Enivornment
A parent has to take utmost care to give his best for his children. That is, provide not just food and shelter, but a proper education and upbringing. And not just that, but a healthy neighbourhood, some place where bad actors can't hurt your child. This costs a lot of money. Many parents work really hard for their children but they often fail to consider that their children may go through the same. If you are someone working 14 hours/day and hate your job, would you want the same for your child? Assuming you have a better work environment, you have to consider the human body itself, your own genetics. You hear about increase in obesity rates and genetic disorders, finding micro plastics in womb, etc. Environmental pollution has caused an increase in cancer rates too. Added the problem of climate change. And we haven't even understood these properly, let alone find a proper solution to it. Would you be willing to take your chances knowing this, while you stake your child's life? Can you say that you are acting in good faith, and are not giving into your selfish biological urges?
>Nature of Evil
You have to protect your child from the unkown evil, while your own child doesn't participate in it.

>> No.22303353

>>22301763
Kek, saved.

>> No.22303556

>>22298105
>>Nietzsche
>childless
Not for the lack of trying.

>> No.22303562

>>22303556
He did love and confess to women, then got angry after being rejected.

>> No.22303568

>>22303232
>Fear of death is the most frightening thing
Just control your cortisol and opioid secretion, chud.

>Nothing hurts a parent more than having to bury your own child.
>A parent has to take utmost care to give his best for his children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#History

Go fuck yourself, whimp.

>> No.22303585

>>22303568
Read the last point. If you are killing your own child. You are the Evil that is the cause of suffering.

>> No.22303608

>>22303585
>You are the Evil
'Evil' is a buzzword, it doesn't mean shit.

>You are the Evil that is the cause of suffering.
Nah, suffering is good.

>> No.22303945

>>22298119
The eyes of a bee see and seek vibrant flowers wirh sweet nectar the fly on the otherhand sees and seeks with his thousands eyes looking for foul decayed organic matter. One seeks the other the fact od the world is there is alot of shit and alot of flowers what are you seeking? What you seek is what you see is what you get.

>> No.22303974

>>22298105
philosophy cause intense fedora tipping see >>22298119
which cause the opposite sex to reject you

>> No.22303995

>>22298156
>accomplish
The grift never ends.

>> No.22303999

>>22303608
I want summer to be over

>> No.22304049

>>22302535
I'm a whistling tradie too

>> No.22304168

>>22303999
"Verily, I say unto you: good and evil which would be everlasting—it doth not exist! Of its own accord must it ever surpass itself anew.
With your values and formulae of good and evil, ye exercise power, ye valuing ones: and that is your secret love, and the sparkling, trembling, and overflowing of your souls.
But a stronger power groweth out of your values, and a new surpassing: by it breaketh egg and egg-shell.
And he who hath to be a creator in good and evil—verily, he hath first to be a destroyer, and break values in pieces.
Thus doth the greatest evil pertain to the greatest good: that, however, is the creating good.—"

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>>22302859
>>22302867
>>22302955
>>22302958
>/lit/erally perfect interaction; have (yous)

So many philosophers never have children because there is a concerted effort by certain parties to prevent hyperintelligent bloodlines from arising and threatening Homo Capensis' monopoly of intelligence & power over the masses of humanity.

>> No.22304209

>>22304168
zzzzzzzz

>> No.22304259

>>22303945
Flies actually do a lot of pollinating as well. If you have a garden you can see them in action.

>> No.22304269

>>22303048
>Judging other people based on their job really speaks a lot about their personality. To think we have such immense faggots on /lit/ of all places..
NTA but yeah I agree. Unless it's some absolutely worthless job like DEI officer, etc then I don't judge someone based on their job as long as it benefits society positively.

>> No.22304570

No one respects a man past the age of 40 with no children. It's a truly sorry sight.

>> No.22304586

>>22304570
Those men don't need the respect coming from a seemingly mediocre person like you.

>> No.22304604

To spend your life pondering and writing philosophy you have to be kind of an autistic faggot with a whiff of pretentiousness (or more).
Same reason why all actors are bleeding hearts and unstable emotional retards. It’s a job where a little bit of insanity is a good thing. It’s like asking “why are the majority of computer programmers introverted?”… like the field itself isn’t conducive to people who would rather read from a screen for 12 hours a day than interact with people.

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>>22303179
ok you caught me
I was rustlin' up trouble.

>> No.22306707

>>22304586
>those men
As if there's something honorable in being a 40 yo loner manchild loser kek. Enjoy being treated as an eunuch by society.

>> No.22306765

>>22298105
Its because we unironically live in a society

>> No.22306798

>>22298105
Why do you assume philosophers would be interested in such a baseline human thing? even animals reproduce offspring. Laymen think ''i must reproduce to continue my bloodline'' and place value on such things external to the will.

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>>22298105
Take picrel and replace Nietzsche with any of them even Jung himself, who is surely one to point fingers when he studied fucking ALCHEMY like a nerd. Philosophy, for all its good, forces the philosopher to live in a noetic realm of ideas rather than in reality, which often comes at the cost of neglecting social life, and with neglecting social life comes a deficiency at building relationships, particularly with women. Reality and the world of the nous can be reconciled and you can live in both, but it takes extreme rationalizing with yourself and mental willpower, but it is extremely powerful. Yukio Mishima touches on it a little bit, and sufis as well as Buddhists speak of it too (“before enlightenment I jacked off and chopped wood blah blah blah after enlightenment I do the same thing.”)

>> No.22307072

>>22302543
Christianity started as an apocalyptic death cult. They thought the world would end in another few decades max. When it became clear that the second coming wasn’t going to happen any time soon, they had to tone it down and settle in for the long haul.