/lit/ - Literature

Read Sanderson.

First for feminist fantasy
P.s i wanna fuck Morgaine and Morgause

>>22719197
cross posting question

>last
>current
>next

I finished A Scanner Darkly last night and oh, woe, it made me feel deep down in my heartbones. While I reread this, I most assurdely did not receive This experience, and it buried itself deep within my forgotten memory banks.
The book is mostly autobiographical, stemming from a ~2 year scenario where Dick was alone after his then-wife had left him, and he opened his large home to a bunch of (mostly teenage) random drug users who flitted in and out, in various stages of cognizance. He dedicated the book to those who "played too much and were punished too harshly for what they did", ending with a list of people he knew, including himself, who suffered permanent consequences from drug usage. About half of this list was simply marked "deceased". He mentions friends of his in their late teens, who were so burned from heroin and such, that they were unable to form complete sentences. Before their 20s at all, and this was permanent.
There is a variety of interesting commentary and statements regarding this book from Dick himself, such as where he mentioned that he was, at one point, consuming amphetamines regularly in his early career, in order to pump out books. ~68 pages per day. Sixteen novels within five years. ASD itself was supposedly written within two weeks but it received three years of editing and reworking.
Poor Phil. He spent most of his life poor and struggling, and only gained financial comfort toward the end of his life.

Some listening material, one about a heroin overdose and one about loss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70vYOHlkps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjB26EIiQ_g

Should I read Malazan or the wheel of time

>>22719209
wheel of time then malazan

>>22719211
Thanks! What's your reasoning anon?

Fantasy with no romance? Read cuckshit and now I have a bad taste in my mouth.

If anyone wants some actually based Arthurian reading, Michael Swanwick's short story "The Dragon Line" is fucking awesome

>>22719214
WoT is the better of the two.

>>22718567
Maybe if you're one of those people who are desperate to latch on to anything of actual literary merit in order to justify your obsession with YA even though you're in your 30s.
>Yeah I spend all my time reading garbage chinese webnovels, but you know what else is under this massive umbrella of "fantasy"? The Iliad.

>>22719206
lol, it's on libgen

What are some obscure space opera? I feel like I read most of the basics (Dune, The Expanse, Night's Dawn, etc.).

Reminder to read Jack Vance
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oiOt6eW0pZI

>>22719272
read mass produced (space) military sf, it's kind of a slop, but it can also be quite entertaining

>>22719272

The first uplift war trilogy is solid

>>22719267
Normies don't know about libgen and still buy physical books.

Are the Dune books after Frank Herbert worth reading? I understand they are not. But I'm on Children of Dune and really like it.

>>22719296
No.

>>22719209
I say Malazan, for the exact opposite reason that other anon had. Malazan is the far superior series if you like no handholding and enjoy meticulously crafted worldbuilding.

>>22719206
I don't actually know, I think it's just because Fairyloot is an "exclusive" site with stuff you can't normally buy (unless they do a reprint for their public shop) so that's being reflected in the resale market for their editions of stuff.

>>22719296
Fiction is generally not worth reading.

>>22719315
imagine being this boring

>>22719176
The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester (1956)

Gully Foyle is lacking in all ways and he's been trapped in an inoperable spaceship for six months. After having a glimmer of hope revoked, he swears vengeance on those who left him stranded. All that he is and that all that he must become will be for destroying those who denied him freedom.

In the 24th century all humans can jaunte, teleport, up to 1000 miles away. This is an excellent premise, and if it had followed through on it I would've enjoyed this considerably more. As it is though it seems to be a metaphor for the golden age of air travel that was ongoing at the time of its publication. This is a book devoted to psionics of all sorts, as much was at the time. There's a lot that's of its era and I would've preferred that they were less metaphor and more explored. Society has reverted to the worst sorts of prudery. Religion has been outlawed. The solar system has been colonized and is at war. Corporations are as powerful as governments.

One of the problems with the science of science fiction for me is that it's based on relatively quickly outdated, if not obsolete ideas. When almost nothing is known anything is possible. The more that's known the less possibilities there are, until there's only one. The more that is known by everyone the less acceptable any alternative is if it's seriously proposed. I have no doubt that it's possible to entirely ignore all these concerns, but I don't think I can, nor do I want to. At least not for this book anyway, there are always exceptions. It doesn't help that it's centuries in the future but the technology is mostly the same, though often there isn't much that can be reasonably done about that. I have no doubt future generations will complain about the depiction of future technology as seen by the 2020s as well.

I may dislike pulp SF in general, though not categorically. Certainly it would seem that I have preference for the more recent based on my ratings and reading selections. There isn't a single pre-1962 SF novel I've rated higher than 3 stars. I don't seem to have much interest prior to New Wave SF. It's somewhat ironic to say that considering that Bester was championed by New Wave writers. Apparently it was initially received with a mixed reception at best, though it continually grew in stature over the decades, which I don't understand.

There wasn't really anything I liked about this, aside from the absurdity of the constant plot twists and contrivances. While Foyle does greatly develop as a character, I still disliked him from beginning to end. That's mostly because the more he changes, the more he stays the same. He simply switches from one monomaniacal pursuit to another. I did find it funny though how it denies that that self-improvement makes you a better person. It simply makes you more capable. I disliked the dialogue, but even more so I disliked the stylistic choices of the book's last 10%.

Rating: 2/5

>>22719315
Art imitates life :3

>>22719336
/sffg/ GR ratings (42):
5 stars: 10
4 stars: 18
3 stars: 8
2 stars: 5
1 stars: 1

I won't be posting the third book, A Rational Zombie, here. I rated it 1/5. I don't want to and it'd be two posts. You can check my profile to see it. I will respond to posts about it, if any, here though. This concludes the three books from the 1st place winner of A Contest of Ratings.

>>22719194
Quite right! Give me the ole MZB, the ole Tanith Lee for me!

>>22719209
WoT is basic bitch fantasy with the creation of the current obsession with magic systems on its conscience. Malazan is postmodern, pretentious and barely commercial.

Goodreads Choice Awards nominees are out now. They're as bad as expected.
https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-fantasy-books-2023

https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-science-fiction-books-2023

>>22719578
Whoa from a totally organic site like goodreads?

>>22719588
There aren't any organic sites with a substantial userbase, including here.

>>22719597

Its time
For genre fiction
To end

>>22719597
But have you read wolfevancebakkerhowardsmith?!?!?

>>22719597
You are brown.

Zombie books can be scifi IF
>the virus was created in a lab
Or fantasy IF
> the virus is some kind of demon or anciant God

>>22719336
Absolutely shit opinion. Filtered.

>>22719685
As noted by the ratings provided afterwards, you're right.

>>22719336
>but even more so I disliked the stylistic choices of the book's last 10%.
Filtered by based literary scifi. Where is the "your reviews are shit" anon when you actually need him?

You ever start reading a book and the opening line is so reddit that you instantly trash it?

>His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha- and the -atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never claimed to be a god. But then, he never claimed not to be a god.

>>22719702
Yes, but the line you quoted doesn't strike me as reddit.

>>22719696
The typographical gimmicks detracted from it. There were so many on the last many pages. Yes, I understand it was meant to be synthesia, but I don't care.

>>22719696
I miss his. He is the hero /sffg/ needs, but not the one it deserves.

>>22719675
A story about some nerd who accidentally discovers vodun/necromancy and unleashes a magic zombie plague that wipes out humanity would be fun

>>22719578
>Atalanta book
>Clytemnestra book
>Medusa book
Guess Madeline Miller ripoffs are in this year.

>can't discuss 50s/60s/70s scifi unless it's accompanied by a template review
Bummer, man!!
>>22719740
I wish more shit like this existed within novels.

>>22719248
If you think books with magical creatures and gods in them aren't fantasy, you're just an embarrassed pseud.

>>22719702
Your loss.

>>22719799
You can discuss whatever you want as long as you can bothered to post it yourself. Why rely on others?

This 70 year old sci fi novel did NOT accurately predict the future.

This fantasy story is NOT historically accurate.

>>22719805
>God turning into human and living among us
Fantasy
>Human turning into a God and living among the stars
Scifi
No one can make sense of this shit.

>>22719248
i would sooner exclude chink bugman webnovels from the fantasy umbrella than the Iliad or Gilgamesh

>>22719740
>Ebook

>>22719929
Not kino

>>22719805
>all practitioners of hinduism, shintoism, judaism, christianity, islam, platonism, neoplatonism, stoicism, zoroastrianism, gnosticism, orphism, etc. throughout history were all just embarrassed pseuds
Why are you so dumb?

>>22719963
Well they believe in fairies, so who's the real idiot?

>>22719929
damn, fuck ebooks

>>22720018
Fairies are real though. I'm replying to one right now.

>>22719963
Why are you so brown?

>>22720020
>>22719929
That is why some books have to remain as pdfs, too many fags convert shit to epub.

>>22719207
>last
Three Hearts and Three Lions by Anderson. The Broken Sword is one of my favourite fantasy novels. This had some memorable moments, but i didn't like the isekai elements, which is the driving force of the plot and mystery of the book. 3/5
>current
Phantases by MacDonald. I'm almost finished, more portal fantasy stuff although this is so filled with wistfulness and lovely prose I am enjoying it more than 3H3L.
>next
The Apology by Plato.

>>22720086
The brown one is the Facebook atheist trying to classify stories thousands of years old as being part of a genre not even 200 years old which, though inspired by mythology, folklore, and religion, is not any of those three. Fantasy is not written to be accepted as a core belief by any culture, and no modern fantasy story has hundreds upon hundreds of years of oral tradition under-girding it in itself to allow it to rise to the classification of folklore. Again, though they may take aspects from real-world folklore here and there, whether or not they are far off-base from what the people who actually believed in those things said about them; it is fantasy after all. But why do they do this? It's because they feel insecure about reading so much fantasy. If they were comfortable with themselves and proud of their interests, they wouldn't try to make fantasy out to be so much more than it really is. It's no different from how you'll get recommended all these video essays on Youtube talking about how this or that game or TV show is really a massive allegory for that thing and, oh, that too. Even if those games or TV shows are allegories — which they almost never are — they are bad allegories. Allegory does not automatically make a story good or literary, in fact it's often the opposite. Edgar Allan Poe was absolutely correct when he said there was scarcely one respectable word to be said in defence of allegory.
>Its best appeals are made to the fancy — that is to say, to our sense of adaptation, not of matters proper, but of matters irnproper for the purpose, of the real with the unreal; having never more of intelligible connexion than has something with nothing, never half so much of effective affinity as has the substance for the shadow. The deepest emotion aroused within us by the happiest allegory, as allegory, is a very, very imperfectly satisfied sense of the writer’s ingenuity in overcoming a difficulty we should have preferred his not having attempted to overcome. The fallacy of the idea that allegory, in any of its moods, can be made to enforce a truth — that metaphor, for example, may illustrate as well as embellish an argument — could be promptly demonstrated; the converse of the supposed fact might be shown, indeed, with very little trouble — but these are topics foreign to my present purpose. One thing is clear, that if allegory ever establishes a fact, it is by dint of overturning a fiction.
It should be obvious that you can't lump modern fantasy and mythology &c. together, but apparently that's too high of a bar to expect the average fantasy fan to jump over.

>>22720252
i hope you got chatgpt to type this word salad for you instead of taking the time to do it yourself

>>22720288
>/lit/
>anything beyond a 5th grade reading level is considered word salad
This board is so fucked.

first for discworld

>>22720288
The text argues that labeling ancient stories as modern fantasy is a misinterpretation, as fantasy is a newer genre inspired by mythology, folklore, and religion but distinct from them. It suggests that some individuals do this due to insecurity about their interest in fantasy. Additionally, it criticizes the notion that all media contains allegorical depth, highlighting Edgar Allan Poe's skepticism about allegory’s value in literature. Overall, it emphasizes the distinction between modern fantasy and ancient mythology, implying that understanding this difference is challenging for many fantasy enthusiasts.

>>22719207
>last
The Last Mortal Bond
An ok conclusion to an average series.
I don't mind characters making stupid decisions, people do, but this one stretched credulity fairly frequently. I do like that elements of the world weren't overexplained.
I won't be rushing to read the sequel, but I may get there one day.
>current
Bring Up the Bodies
>next
Into the Narrowdark

>>22720252
>t. Brown ESL

>>22720252
It's clear from your continued projection about insecurity that you are, in fact, a pseud who huffs his own farts. Furthermore, you continue to bring up religion in this conversation when it was originally about the stories themselves. You think that people drawing inspiration and beliefs from stories (which is a beautiful thing) somehow elevates the stories beyond of the genre that their fantastical nature places them in - admittedly by modern classifications, yes - when in reality it merely speaks to the heights that a genre can reach when it isn't being used as a cash cow by people who only seek to read or produce entertainment. If anything, it's more accurate to call mythology a sub-genre of fantasy where it concerns fantastical works, so as to properly exclude all the schlock. You said that those that call mythology fantasy are desperate for validation, but I believe it to be the opposite. You're so deep into your own biases that you don't want stories you respect to fall into a genre you do not respect. Which is wildly silly, because it's just a broad classification meant to separate one type of fiction from another.

>>22720408
I'll just ignore all the irrelevant shit you said and clarify that I do respect fantasy. I think that's clear, or else I wouldn't be posting in this thread. You need to read my post again if you think I was saying anything other than that lumping modern fantasy in with mythology is retarded. Until then, you're arguing with your imagination.

>>22720297
Why do I feel you are buggering that chicken in the car?

>>22720473
You've got a dirty mind.

Okay, so... What's the deal with Reverend Insanity?
It gets mentioned in almost every /sffg/ thread and for some reason youtube has been recommending me videos where some guy talks about the book as well. I never stuck around to watch them though.
It seems like something that would be a huge waste of time with a high chance of inflicting brainrot, but I'm also interested in case I'm missing out.
Aren't there like thousands of volumes? Also, I'm not too fond of the Chinese, nor their media, but since the book appears to have a solid following, I thought maybe my convictions were wrong.
Did anyone actually read it? If so, was it worth even just pirating?

>>22719929
Kino.

>>22720447
>Until then, you're arguing with your imagination.
Funny, considering
>lumping modern fantasy in with mythology
isn't actually what anyone was doing and it's pretty clear even with a cursory glance up the reply chain. Those who call mythology fantasy are not actually trying to equate classic myths and legends with modern fantasy.

>>22720570
>Those who call mythology fantasy are not actually trying to equate classic myths and legends with modern fantasy.
Yes I am.

Don't bother replying to guy that only posts with /tv/ reaction images. Just as obnoxious as the brownoids that spam light novels and web serials

>>22720572
Then I'll take this L and see myself out. The other guy is still a chode though. I don't make the rules ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>22720553
It gets mentioned by ONE (1) terminally online anon in every thread, he's like bakkerfag but chink

Any books for this feel?

>>22719578
My my anon, you forgot one: https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-romantasy-books-2023
Did you know they got did of the Poetry category for this

>>22720634
The witcher books

>>22719797
They've always been in, there were 3 last year too

Would it be easier to sell fantasy or sci-fi books individually or as a collection? I really need to off-load some of my library. I'm considering offering most things as a set (IE all the Culture books, all the Thomas Covenant books) but also offering them individually but for a much higher price. I'm not sure if there's a market for people looking to buy entire series all at once? Also most of my series are a mismatch of editions and formats so there's very little consistency. Also what's the best website to sell Fantasy/Sci-fi books at? Any advice would be appreciated.

>>22720553
Unless you want to read chink dragon ball in broken English I'd recommend staying far away and reading actual novels instead

>>22719209
Honestly they are for very different tastes, WoT is YA fantasy while Malazan is >>22719571

>>22720837

paperbacks are worth exactly nothing
hardcovers newer than ~1980 are also worth exactly nothing
this goes double and triple for /sffg/

dump them at goodwill or donate them to a library or drop them at tiny libraries. if you absolute must, half-price books will give you maybe fifty cents per mint hardcover.

>>22720865
I find this hard to believe since I sometimes have to resort to Amazon or Thriftbooks for hard-to-find copies, (usually a missing set in a series) when I can't find them at used bookstores or Goodwill. I have quite a few uncommon/obscure titles in my collection. Methinks you're just being typically 4chan contrarian.

>>22720883
That guy is right. You're deluding yourself if you believe the LIBRARY is going to pay you for books.
>typical contrarian
newfag post

>>22720883

you may be surprised to learn that there is an entire class of meme devoted to people like you

>>22720837
Most genre readers are women and they are too autistic to buy used books
>Also most of my series are a mismatch of editions and formats
Oh, man...

>>22720837
You won't be able to make more than what you paid unless you have something relatively rare or out of print. Even then you're looking at 15-20 dollars per nice hardcover if you're lucky. People looking to buy paperbacks just want cheap copies so they aren't worth selling unless it's your job.

>>22719336
why does that skinhead have Māori tattoos?

I'm writing a ya romance. If I posted it on rr, would anyone be curious to check it out?

>>22720949
>ya
>romance
Kill yourself this instant.

>>22720928
Because he finds crazed religious people who loves tattoos and tattoo him while he was unconscious. They terrify everyone else.

>>22720949
add rape and put it on ao3

>>22720985
is it described as maori in the book? (im interested because im maori)

>>22721000
It's described as maori style, but they're called The Scientific People. As expected of a 1956 book, they think it makes him look like a savage and a demon.

>>22721004
>As expected of a 1956 book, they think it makes him look like a savage and a demon.
i mean the tattoos do look quite intimidating - i imagine looking fiercer than your enemy mattered back in the tribal days - and lets be real, they were savage. eating your enemy, not even for food, but for the sole purpose of turning them into shit to satiate their hatred, is pretty savage if not based.

yo what the fuck
>randomly remember that a self-pub cultivation book I read exists
>look up to see if book 2 is out yet
>comes out the 16th so today 4chan time
>turns out it was on mobi for the past week
SHIEEEEET
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/199923353-monolith
This is the story where the main dude's girl gets raped so he kills the rapist then he eventually has her unraped lol

>>22719702
I dropped a book after reading the Dedication page. Trying way too hard to be edgy.

>>22721315
the "fucking"? just how much of a pearl clutcher are you?

>>22721339
Enough to trigger you apparently.

>>22721354
>I'm not triggered, you are!

>>22719702
>It is only after that we understand what has come before, then we understand nothing. Thus we shall define the souls as follows: that which precedes everything
dropped it right there

>>22721385
Only thing worse then a harem shitter is a cultivation shitter.

>>22721385
Only one chapter left...

>>22719194
The irony that such an acclaimed work of feminist fantasy was writen by a woman that enabled child abuse from the part of her patner.

Mythology isn't fantasy because gods, demons and fairies are unironically real.

>>22721548
Reverend Insanity isn't fantasy because Fang Yuan is real.

>>22721548
you only object to such notions because believing that mythology is classified as fantasy literature would mean admitting the bible is derivative fantasy

>>22719209
Waste of Time

>>22719315
Neither is 4chan but here you are

>>22721464
Kys coomer

>>22721538
Very reddit thing to post.

>>22721311
>he eventually has her unraped
How the hell does that happen

>>22721371
Calm down, cupcake.

>>22721315
LMAOing @ your life

Recently bought the complete Arthur C. Clarke short stories I know nothing about his other work but I'm making my way through 2001 series at the moment and have already read the blueprint for it The Sentinel. Any you would suggest I must read straight away?

>>22721315
only shitlibs are triggered le bad word.

>>22722766
That's wrong. There are words that cause an overexcited reaction in different sorts. Which words do that for you?

>>22719839
Whoever says this 10/10 voted for Biden

>>22722702
>>22722766
See: >>22722699

>>22722688
It's a cultivation novel. Near about anything is possible.

If you can read le français read this

>>22722794
How does you being brown relate to this thread?

>>22722793
100% chance that this anon thinks that anyone who doesn't think the same as he does is the enemy.

>>22722854
100% chance you're brown.

>>22722811
That's an awesome cover.

>>22722793
Mark Lawrence (Prince of Thorns) says stuff like that in his goodread reviews. Is he a Bidenmissle?

>>22722875
Why are you trying to push this brown meme, pol-san?

>>22720408
Holy Reddit. Take my updoot kind sir. Spider man's struggle to hold his fart in no way home truly gave me a inspirational vision of life

>>22722923
>>22723011
Holy brownies.

>>22722890
Prince of Thorns was shit, but that has nothing to do with which puppet of zion he voted for.

I see we're having one of our bad days today /sffg/

>>22722890
I read the Prince of thorn trilogy and holy shit I'm neither a christian nor white yet I could smell the scalding seethe at catholicism in that book.

Thoughts on Malazan? I read it in high school and thought it was terrible. Every time I bring this up, people tell me I am retarded and just didn't get it. Is the Malazan fanbase a bunch of tasteless pseuds who are just like that, or do they have a point? I'm thinking of giving it another try.

If it matters, I recall my main complaint was that it seemed, constantly, as though the author was trying to impress me with how cool and powerful his setting and characters were, in weird exaggerated ways. Like there was this skeleton dude from an ancient civilization, that could have been from 6,000 years ago, but instead was like 6,000,000,000 years old. And at the end there's like, an evil tree or something? And that wizard guy from the prologue just shows up, is a dragon, and kills the evil tree. These sort of 'cool' moments and setting details felt unearned, and just came out of nowhere. I think there was a plot about a thief guy who was in love with a princess (or maybe that was The Black Company?) and I liked that plot line, at least.

>>22723078
malazan is the definition of sunk cost fallacy

>>22723078
>The stains of rust seemed to map blood seas on the black, pocked surface of Mock’s Vane. A century old, it squatted on the point of an old pike that had been bolted to the outer top of the Hold’s wall. Monstrous and misshapen, it had been cold-hammered into the form of a winged demon, teeth bared in a leering grin, and was tugged and buffeted in squealing protest with every gust of wind.
thought: this is a really bad way to open a book
will let you know if i think anything else about it

>>22723130
We need to have a moratorium on authors writing like this until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

This is the most skimming I've ever done for a series yet I'm still reading. Probably because I'm doing so much skimming since so little happens plot wise which makes me plow through each novel very quickly.

>>22723158
Why are you reading it if you skim it so much? What do you like about it?

>>22723078
The first Malazan book is all about quick snapshots constantly jumping around (showing cool people doing cool stuff, with no setup). It's a bold stylistic choice, but yeah that's why everything feels unearned. It gets better, but I could never really like the cast of that first book.

>>22723505
>Malazan
>cool people
>doing cool stuff
Anon please

>>22723483
Because I was in the mood for schlock and it's pure schlock. Also I want to know how it eventually ends despite skimming so much.

>>22723130
>>22723134
>No you don't understand! It gets better!

>>22721992
i don't think you quite understand how the english language works my ESL friend...

I think Malazan is awesome

Why the Malazan hate when all of you fags love Bakker? It's seriously the same shit.

>>22723686
bakker sucks too

guys i'm reading TJE and i'm getting filtered by the prose, wtf is going on in this chapter???

>>22723639
I love how he writes women, their character arcs are massive.
>>22723686
>when all of you fags
It's literally just one chud

>>22723761
I just finished Deadhouse Gates earlier today and I'm honestly surprised how I went from absolutely hating Felisin to looking forward to her every reappearance and can't wait until the next book that picks up the seven cities shit

>>22719176
Is Dick such great author to make first 200 pages of Man in the High Castle boring until Tagomi reaches Nirvana? Or accidental, wrong clock right twice in one day. Anon felt he could not answer. Perhaps by consulting the /sffg/ would be reach conclusion.

Dunno if this belongs or not since it's only in audiobook form, but has anyone listened to The Sojourn audio series or have thoughts on it?

>>22721018
Primitive peoples engage in cannibalism to absorb their enemies' magic, like the quickening in Highlander but grosser. It's not about "turning them into shit."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-wj4pRpIE&t=143s

>>22724003
Best post in this thread so far.

>>22722688

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>>22723887
Yeah Felisin's arc is neat, I'm very excited to see where her arc goes in the future, just finished Deadhouse Gates last week-ish myself

>>22723686
Does Bakker also randomly introduce seemingly relevant characters and POVs and plotlines all the time that go absolutely nowhere and are never heard from again? Also is it painfully obvious when the tabletop elements creep in with autistic player character lore that contributes nothing to the story?

I never read Bakker since it doesn't sound like my thing in other ways, but these were the biggest problems I had with Malazan.

>>22724110
I wanted to post it in another thread, which is even shittier than this one

>>22724128
>randomly introduce seemingly relevant characters and POVs and plotlines all the time that go absolutely nowhere and are never heard from again?
But enough about asoiaf.

>>22724115
>>22724121
Are these not just anons shilling they're own books? With a couple known favorites like neuromancer on their

I ranked all the sf/f books I've read so far. I'm sure there's more I can't recall

>>22724121
How bad is the litrpg in Azarinth Healer? Does it have stat autism?

>>22724150
You're newer than the newfag who posts those images. Astounding.

>>22719578
why are all the authors women?

>>22724159

>>22724159
you're a peer-reviewed retard but i'll at least give you props for putting Stover RotS that high, because it's genuinely fantastic

Alright /sffg/, after spending forever slogging through Kings of the Wyld, I'm excited to start something new, but can't decide. Redpill me on one of these:
>Memories of Ice
>Prince of Thorns
>The Black Company
>Sharp Ends / Skip to A Little Hatred
>Legend

https://youtu.be/Sxm4jNYhnE0?si=sgSLouSez8Wgue4R&t=4895
the fat cocksucker claims he has ~1100 pages written with hundreds (a hundred?) pages still to go
>>22724228
of the things you mention i've only read Abercrombie. of the things you mention i've only read Abercrombie. Sharp Ends is nothing amazing, but pretty short, so you can get through it in a couple of days (don't recall which stories are best atm). i'm conflicted about the sequel trilogy itself, it's far from perfect, but it's a fine read, so if you like Joe's writing, you'll probably enjoy it. there are ~4 iirc main POV characters, of them only one i found outright bad, rest are fine -to-good (best is Orso)

>>22724228
>>Legend
Is this by David Gemmell? I read it during the Summer, would recommend.

>>22724228
Memories of Ice bc I'm jumping straight into it after DG
>>22724248
Don't give me hope george you'll just let me down again

>>22723686
Bakker is by far a better writer

>>22724273
Stop the cap

>>22724248
Yeah I've heard mixed things about the sequel trilogy, the original stuff and standalones are some of my favorite fantasy I've read, but I'm not entirely sold on the whole "oh yeah it follows their kids and it's like a next generation" thing.

>>22724251
Kinda leaning towards this because it's standalone, and heard really good things

>>22724272
Yeah idk, I finished DG and needed a break, Chain of Dogs was fuckin heavy lmao. I think that once I start MOI though, I'm going to just try and truck through the rest of MBotF, lest I forget too much important shit. You think you're going to read the Esslemont stuff too, or just Erikson's 10?

>>22724286
He is though, if only because there is literally nothing good about Erikson's writing. You could outsource the prose to an ai and nothing would be lost.

>>22724290
>Kinda leaning towards this because it's standalone, and heard really good things
Legend is good, but it's rough since it was Gemmell's first novel and he only wrote it because his retarded doctor misdiagnosed him having cancer so he thought he was gonna die.

Are there any good AI generated stories?

What are some fantasy books with good court intrigue in them? So long as it's done well I don't care if it's the main focus or not.

>>22724345
Ai porn is not that bad

>>22724290
>Yeah I've heard mixed things about the sequel trilogy
while i'd need to re-read both trilogies one after the other to form an informed opinion, i feel like the 1st trilogy is overall better. that said, there's still plenty to like about the 2nd trilogy and it likely still effortlessly mogs most modern fantasy anyway

>>22724290
I'm gonna read Night of Knives at some point as for the other novellas and side novels who knows, most likely would be after im done the main 10

>>22724202
I wish Stover wrote more. I've read Shatterpoint and Traitor and they're both among my favorite books ever. Can't wait to get to Acts of Caine.

>>22724159
>YA space romance in S tier
Is this another Red Rising scenario where it only starts YA and sheds it as the series comes into itself?

>>22724346
The Empire trilogy by janny (haha) wurts
Wolfblade trilogy and second sons trilogy by Jennifer Fallon
Dragon Prince by Melanie Rawn
Kushiel's Dart (Cuck warning)
Black Magician and Traitor Spy by Trudi Canavan
Kingmaker, Kingbreaker by Karen Miller
>Inb4 they are all w*men!!!
Court intrigue is all about retards in pretty dresses being passive-aggressive to each other so of course women love it.

>>22724150
I highly doubt Will Wright posts here

>>22724388
Someone recommended this a while back, and I'm about half way through it so far. Incredibly well written. I pray there is no cuck shit later on like Robin Hobb's steaming pile of crap.

Thoughts? Saw a YT video about Tad Williams recently and this one stuck out to me.

>>22724567
Bujold is a vanilla chad so zero cuckshit in her books.
>>22724601
Slow as fuck as everything williams but it's basically the last boss of the cyberpunk genre.

>>22724601
Josh Strife Hayes and Blind Guardian both can't be wrong

>>22724194
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2023/04/04/1164109676/women-now-dominate-the-book-business-why-there-and-not-other-creative-industries

>>22723985
I dont know what you read, but I read this. Give it a read if your interested in the topic.
Im keen to read more on the topic if you wanna share where you got your info from.

>>22724345
No

Is Kingkiller Chronicle worth reading?

>>22724765
Look at a picture of the author and judge him using physiognomy.

>>22724765
Why do americans suck BP dick so hard?

>>22724773
If you say anything negative about black panther you get fired from your job, your kids get taken away from you, and you get put on black feet washing duty for 10-25 years.

>>22724773
If they're black: "oh wow cool, a blockbuster action movie full of people that look like me"
If they're white liberals: "watching this movie absolves me of the terrible guilt I struggle with every day for being born white"

>>22724778
If they're white conservatives: watch it, then complain about diversity

>>22724159
absolute slop, kys

>>22724765
I'm not a fan personally, don't like Kvothe and the books meander too much without much plot

>>22724601

nothingburger precursor to wokeshit

>1800+ chapters into Martial World
>finally learn what happened to Empyrean Primordius
:C

How much time do you take between books in series you're reading?

>>22724917
A couple of months, i hate binge reading the same author.

>horrible raging cunt ruins everything and has happy ending

why do scifantasy authors love this?

Can anyone recommend me something that has Viriconium vibes

>>22724959
The Wandering Inn, around chapter 239 specifically

>>22724973
Can I get another recommendation that isn't slop

>>22724983
Did you just call TWI "slop"?

>>22724917
Immediately after because I have an addictive personality

>>22724988
Shit, to be more precise.

>>22724990
You ever read PKD on deliriants?

>>22724995
Haven't heard of either, why?

>>22724999
It is time to ascend.

>>22724995
>>22724999
>TFW I realize what PKD is
Never knew he wrote about it lmao, is it worth checking out?

>>22724995
I will never think of datura and not immediately imagine that greentext.
>>22725002
One of the greatest writers.

>>22725013
I need to read his stuff. Surprised I haven't already