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30m, scrambling to read all the "top 100 books" crap i was supposed to have read in high school but it never ends. sporadically go on buying sprees on amazon and blow through a couple shits each weekend. lately wading through all the 20th century 200-something-page parabolic dystopias. none enjoyable. the last book i remember liking was the elliot rodger manifesto. unironically fell for the "where do i start with Carle" meme

when does it end, when does it start getting good, when do i start feeling informed and well read. i also liked infinite jest

>> No.22956015
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>>22955970
>buying sprees
>buying

I'm reading moby dick because I wanted to better understand this comic and that makes me better than you. Because I have an actual reason to read.

>> No.22956019

>>22955970
I was like you until I got to 400+ books. I'm not buying anything this year.

>> No.22956026

>>22956015
i thought it was better than funkos until i started reading them

>> No.22956038
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>>22955970
Literature just isn’t for you and I say that in a non-rude way. If you’re forcing yourself to enjoy it then you aren’t doing it correctly. If it just doesn’t connect with you then your best bet is to just try a different hobby.

>> No.22956053

>>22956038
some books are good but most are bad. shadow of the torturer was great. lolita was great. ulysess and gravitys rainbow were probably great although all but glimpses of them went over my head. brave new world, in so many top books lists, was extremely uneven and mostly bad ("orgy-porgy??")

>> No.22956056

>>22955970
What's important here is to think, when you are picking up a book: "why was this book written, what am I looking for from a book, and to what extent will those two things be able to converge in a meaningful way?". If you're interested in commentary on the political future of humanity from a mid-20th century perspective, especially with regard to various threats to liberal-democratic ideas about the independence of the human spirit, then those dystopia books would be great choices. If you are looking for something more internal, stories about alienation born of a character's own psychology, not just the external political situation, then something like Infinite Jest will be more your speed.
There is a very strong flattening effect in the way contemporary culture conceives of the entity of "literature", but once you get really familiar with it you will realize how many different subcategories there are and how significant the differences between them can be.

>> No.22956089

>>22956038
This

>> No.22956094

>>22955970
>the last book I remember liking was the Elliot Rodger manifesto
I hope this is bait, if not then you’re not just a loser but extremely pathetic. If you can’t appreciate the art and majesty of great literature, especially when so easily available then piss off.

>> No.22956256

>>22956038
But society has conditioned us to belive your less human if you do not read.

>> No.22956282

>>22956256
you're less human

>> No.22956284

>>22956282
The typical normie fucktard IS an unthinking rodent but also I acknowledge you can’t force them into reading books or trying to care about the world around them. Both are true. OP may as well take up ice curling or watching water droplets fall out of the faucet.

>> No.22956303

>>22956282
Thank you, i now do not have to continue trying to be like everyone else. I can now read what i want to read and not care, create things things that only a non-human can create, live a life that at first felt crushing and shameful but once experienced is liberating and ripe for exploration.

>> No.22956592

>>22956282
Hehe

>>22956256
Just have to think about why you're doing something as I said above. If you're curious about it then you have to give it a chance to find out whether or not you really like it, but you should be reflecting during that process and thinking about what your expectations, conscious or not, are, and how they relate to reality. This is how we learn and grow.

>> No.22956604

>>22956015
good lord I hate this cringe comic with my very soul

>> No.22956606

>>22955970
If you enjoy some books and most others not, just stop followinf those top 100s and all that bs. Just read more of the authors you enjoyed. Don't keep pushing through when you hate it, just put the book down and pick up another.

>> No.22957203

The issue i have is many of these top 100 books are all, like, for kids and pre-literates. Fahrenheit 451 is a children’s book

>> No.22957233

>>22956256
1) no it doesn’t society hates reading
2) you are

>> No.22957243

>>22956604
Maybe you are missing the context of the song

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>>22956015
>>22956015
Unfortunately, this comic is not a direct reference to Moby Dick.
It's a reference to Mastodon's masterpiece album 'Leviathan', which is loosely based on the novel.
The words in the coloured panels are lyrics from 'Blood and Thunder'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsdIO8RHMTc

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>>22955970
Don't worry about it nobody reads

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>>22956053
I like this kid.

>> No.22958080

>>22957203
It's just about popularity which militates in favor of lowest common denominator picks. Again, thinking about *why* something exists in a certain way can resolve a lot of confusion/frustration.

>> No.22958087

>>22957551
was she wrong?

>> No.22958100

>>22956015
Moby Dick isn’t metal. Mastodon is gay.

>> No.22958130

>>22956053
you should try putting in the effort to understand stuff like ulysses that's the only thing that makes literature worthwhile (it teaches you to not be an NPC)
a lot of it is still garbage you're right about brave new world btw lol

>> No.22958709

>>22958130
i unironically cant believe so much ink is spilled over any other type of book

>>22957551
shes right

>> No.22959973

>>22956038
I legit think that anyone can force themselves to like reading they just got to try hard enough

>> No.22959985

>>22955970
Have you tried reading Blood Meridian? I think it has gotten more men into reading than the public school system

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>>22956038
I disagree to a slight extent
I relate to cinema in a similar way to literature. I always find it to be a chore to begin the media, but once I am in the process of consumption, it becomes enjoyable and worthwhile in hindsight.
During my major NEET period, forcing myself to read helped me enjoy some of my favorite works, like Stoner.
You wouldn't have any tips on how to read faster without losing comprehension would you?
I get around 25 pages/hour unless I am actively trying to go fast which is mentally tiresome but also frustratingly slow.

>> No.22960226

>>22960008
I'm kinda the opposite, I love starting something new but my follow-through can be pretty shit until I get fully locked in on it. But yeah I was like that too in the sense that I had to train myself to get in the habit - I think you just have to invest enough time in it to where it becomes a sunk cost thing and it's part of your identity and the things you look forward to are connected to it.

>> No.22961655

filtered
saged
kys

>> No.22962951

>>22960008
>I always find it to be a chore to begin the media, but once I am in the process of consumption, it becomes enjoyable and worthwhile in hindsight.
I'm the exact same. I think it may be a result of my dopamine addiction. I'm also a slow reader but I saw this video and it helped by changing my mindset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPRs6Wi7oM

>> No.22963184

>>22955970
>buying books
Ever heard of libraries or piracy?
>>22956604
Fuck you, it was funny 15 years ago