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>Oh well, you know, Dostoyevsky is actually a "western" author, Tolstoy was much more Russian
>Yeah, Dostoyevsky is actually way more popular in the west than in Russia
t. some faggot from St. Petersburg
I've heard these lines more than once, and it has to be the most retarded /lit/ related bullshit I've ever heard.

>> No.23098169

>>23098158
Apparently you know better than Russians do?

>> No.23098178

>>23098169
I do, because I know them better than they know themselves...
I'm literally Dostoyevsky.

>> No.23098187

I have a friend from Moscow. According to him Tolstoy is more popular but both authors are widely read. He compared it to Orwell being probably more well known than Steinbeck, but the degree of separation not being huge.

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>>23098187
>their Orwell and Steinbeck are Tolstoy and Dostoevsky

Man I fucking hate American literary culture, we really are a nation of meatheads. No wonder our actually great writers, like Melville, were unappreciated in their own time and we had to be dragged kicking and screaming to enjoy them after their deaths.

>> No.23098297

>>23098193
He was a fag though.

>> No.23098300

>>23098297
Still manlier than 99% of "men" today

>> No.23098311

>>23098193
orwell is not american

>> No.23098317

>>23098311
Worse. That means American worship some foreign mediocrity despite having great authors

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>>23098317
don't know where you're coming from there. america takes her writers too seriously (a british novelist once said 'in new york, book REVIEWERS get recognised in restaurants'). there's a desire to find and reward the 'great', because they have no real literary tradition.

>> No.23099318

>>23098169
I am a Russian. My first (and probaly the last) post on this garbage. We like both of them. Someone prefer Dostoyevsky for his "deep and dark" psychology, someone more enjoy Tolstoy for the way he writes reality. It is old and stupid battle between two tribes - Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy, Pepsy or Coca-Cola?
Кaк я зaдoлбaлcя yчить вaш cpaный язык, гocпoдь, зa чтo. Я пpocтo хoчy пpoчecть aмepикaнcкиe coчинeния Haбoкoвa в opигинaлe. AAAA

>> No.23099322 [DELETED] 

>>23098317
>mediocrity
Orwell was a prophet, retard.

>> No.23099553

>>23099322
No, Huxley was.

>> No.23099577

Only Nabokov says this and his reasoning was that people in Russia only like Dostoevsky as a "mystic."

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>>23099318
>Я пpocтo хoчy пpoчecть aмepикaнcкиe coчинeния Haбoкoвa в opигинaлe
picrel
>someone more enjoy Tolstoy for the way he writes reality.
That's exactly my point. Russkies who prefer Tolstoy and/or dislike Dosto have an inferiority complex, cause Tolstoy might have written a lot of things, but reality ain't one of 'em.

>> No.23099591

>>23099584
Sounds like you're projecting

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*ends your thread*

>> No.23099711

>>23098158
>>23098333
Americans need to understand that their desire to always find out who or what is the greatest is childish, even if it once lead America to where it is now. Tolstoy and Dostoevsky are both great, and there is no objective metric by which you can say which one is actually greater.

>> No.23099826

>>23099711
>and there is no objective metric by which you can say which one is actually greater.
Dostoyevsky is, objectively.

>> No.23099852

>>23099826
If you’re 15 yeah.

>> No.23099853

>>23099826
Retard it's obviously Tolstoy

>> No.23099855

>>23099826
This but actually Tolstoy

>> No.23100369

>>23098158
I have never seen anyone say that. It is well known that Tolstoj was Frenchboo and Dostojevskij was the average Russian.

>> No.23100378

>>23099852
>>23099853
>>23099855
>>23099826
You Americans are funny but retarded.

>> No.23100402

>>23100378
t. has 4 iq points less then white americans

>> No.23100460

>>23098187
What's funny is I've heard the average Russian doesn't have the reading comprehension to read either, but I suppose that's a western problem too