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Is there a book that spends a large part of its time showing the redemption of a character: for example, a young man who had a brutal upbringing and who begins the book as a violent, dangerous person, full of hatred and cruelty, but who, little by little, and through good influences, slowly becomes kinder, more humane, wiser, softer, until he reaches a point that, from the joys of a new life of love and wisdom, a traumatic event of such great proportions occurs that all that long work of redemption ends up undone, and someone who had fought so much to become a good person ends up returning to your state of hatred and bestiality?

>> No.23100154

>>23100143
Drive 2011

>> No.23100168

>>23100143
Back to /a/ faggot

>> No.23100172

>>23100143
Tolstoy's "The Forged Coupon"

>> No.23100339

>>23100143
Literally Les Miserables

>> No.23100412

>>23100339
Back to /mu/ faggot

>> No.23100437

>tfw if Berserk were a novel it would be considered above LOTR but cause it’s Manga /lit/ will just write it off

>> No.23100454

>>23100437
well you see, manga is manga, and novels and novels. manga is discussed on /a/ and novels are discussed on /lit/. you statement is utterly meaningless. because you aren't evaluating berserk as a novel (which it cant be), you're evaluating the made up idea of what you think a berserk novel would be which we have no way of knowing because we cant live in your head.

>> No.23100476

>>23100454
Why can’t Manga be literature though?

>> No.23100514

>>23100476
because half the shit is pictures you fucking retard

>> No.23100517

>>23100514
What an angry individual

>> No.23100521

Dragon Ball (Z), Buu, in the middle of the buu saga when Satan manages to turns him good and then the two snipers shoot Satan and his puppy and he turns evil

>> No.23100531

>>23100476
Well you see, because its manga. It is not a disparaging thing to say that manga is not literature, in the same way that it is not disparaging to say a tiger is not a lion.

>> No.23100549

The Golden Age Arc in Berserk is as great as anything one finds in Greek Tragedy, in terms of plot and character.

>> No.23100561

I am a monolingual englishman and I have only ever read poorly translated manga but when I posted excerpts from my novel I'm working on I've only received praise.

>> No.23100735

>>23100549
>I watched a Cvckphilosophy video therefore I'm now basically a connoisseur of all Greek tragedy

>> No.23101996
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>>23100143
Book of the New Sun + Urth of the New Sun kinda fits your post until the traumatic part. The main character has a large period of growth from starting off as a brute, but it eventually entails a traumatic event that he greatly regrets for a while due to the amount of carnage it causes, but he doesn't lose his progress. However, it does cause him to abandon his world, so to speak, for a while.

>> No.23102302

>>23100412
It is literally a book, retard.

>> No.23102311

>>23100437
No it wouldn't. Too much of the quality comes from the visuals.
Let's check for proof: If you thought the recent cgi series was bad then that is how much you appreciate Berserk without visuals.

>> No.23102367

>>23100476
>why drawing can't be word doe
Fucking weebs