/lit/ - Literature

>>23201131
his daughter is a whore, and he melted his brain with barbiturates. His groveling for god's chosen people to the point of dishonesty is the cherry on top.

>>23201141
What does it has to do with the book?

>>23201146
>why would the messenger affect the message of a self help book?

>>23201152
Yeah why, you tell me?

>>23201157
you can answer it for yourself. if you have no apparent hangups it or topical comprehension, so be it.

>>23201157
Would you take advice from a man in the gutter?

>>23201131
just read atomic habits, no need to learn about simping for israel and feeding cats or whatever.

Look up ones written by therapists, counselors or similar if dealing with mental health or relationships.
This one was pretty useful and practical.

>>23201131
I really should clean my room, I genuinely don't think it's been hoovered in 10 years

>>23201463
I take advice from crackhead schizos on 4chan I don't know why I shouldn't do the same with Juden Peterstein.

people still take diogenes seriously 2300 years later.

you cannot alloy truth with its source.

>>23201131
>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propagandize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life.

>>23201748
>I take advice from crackhead schizos on 4chan I don't know why I shouldn't do the same with Juden Peterstein.
Not that anon, but what kind of advice do you take from crackhead schizo's on 4chan?
I'm genuinely curious, and not being a smug prick. Please reply. :)

meh. just another grift

>>23202858
did you give him a little kiss?

>>23202858
>here's my Apology of Peterson
>no, YOU are triggered

>>23201667
If that book doesn't have advice or a formula to get off the Chan, it's worthless.

Dopamine nation and How to Thrive in the 21th century are solid

>>23201992
>people still take diogenes seriously 2300 years later.
redpill me on Diogenes

>>23202975
Here's my advice. Spend a month printing out all your favorite threads, and put them on that wall. After a month you're wall should be covered in 4chan content.
block 4chan in your etc hosts file. Look up how to do this on Windows or whatever you use. Its not hard.
Everytime you get the 4chan pangs, just stare at the wall, and maybe fuck around with AI a little bit. AI is a lot less addictive than 4chan in my experience.

lmao

>>23201146
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>>23201157
Ima cut to the chase since Im in a similar scenario: You should not take advice from someone like me.
I am an expert in having a shitty life. I can tell you about it so you can learn from me, I will can you what NOT to do, and I may help explain some phenomena to you. What I will not do is tell you what you should do, because I obviously failed at that.

>>23203049
Please tell us in detail.

>>23201157
If they are unable to follow their own advice, then what is the use in following their advice? It's the same problem with Nietzsche, anything he says is undermined by the fact that he died a complete failure.

>>23203053
dont be poor

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>>23202936
Peterson will touch a nerve by simply pointing out something that is blatantly ignored in the way an ideological group frames an issue. He exposes ideological blind spots in a simple and straightforward way; this leads to the fellow travelers of whichever idea is being discussed having a breakdown and exposing themselves. He's valuable as a media personality if even for that reason alone.

>Peterson: it would be productive to involve men in the conversation about violence against women in a way that doesn't label masculinity as inherently negative
>Libtard: so you're saying in order to make men care about rape women have to be returned to the status of men's property
>Peterson: the rise of identitarianism is linked to reactionary politics that sublimate personal resentment into collectivistic extremism
>Chud: so you're saying white people don't have group interests and therefore shouldn't exist
>Peterson: transgender ideology specifically targets a group of people likely to be confused and open to mental pathologies via social contagion--we shouldn't give hormones to children let alone surgically mutilate minors
>Tranny: so you're literal nazi saying we're a disease and we should be exterminated like one
>Peterson: anonymity increases the likelihood of pathological behavior so perhaps one way to alleviate the negative repercussions of its overall influence would be to segregate accounts on these specific widely used social media websites--it's definitely better than secret and selective control of the public narrative as it exists now
>/pol/tard: so you're saying you want everyone everywhere to be tied to whatever they say and do at all times...I'm a freedom fighter [goes to another thread to post about AOC's asshole while writing "nig*er" 50 times]

>>23201718
Wash your penis

>>23201131
No, because everything in the book is something anybody ought to know if they just pause and think for a minute or two.

>>23203167
common sense is a myth. Most people are idiots, and even the smart ones are confused. Things should be written down, and if you think youre too smart to need that then you really are a midwit.

>>23201131
I bought this book when it came out and never read it. That was when we went thru our JP phase.

>>23203153
I don't wanna

>>23201141
Wasn’t this written before he went off the deep end?

>>23204806
No he was always nuts

>>23201152
He went nuts after being demonised by the media, and losing a very comfortable position he had gotten accustomed to as a respected authority figure that people don't talk back to.
That doesn't have much to do with whether his life advice is useful.

>>23201463
Depends on his advice. If he says "I had a wife, 2 kids and a very successful job, here's where i fucked up", I would listen. Of course, that isn't the way 12 rules for life is phrased, though.

>>23204975
Ah yes the vaunted class of tenured humanities professors

>>23203047
but you're here w/ us. how good can this advice be

>>23203067
ability to follow advice does not necessarily correlate with the quality of the advice

you would probably agree that there are plenty of successful people who give out shit advice

minding the source is fine but sometimes the message has inherent value irregardless of the messenger

regarding Nietzsche, the very fact you mention him should tell you he was far from being a 'complete failure'

>>23201131
he is a much better talker than he is a writer
well, at least he was when he was still lecturing

>>23203067
>If they are unable to follow their own advice, then what is the use in following their advice?
What if it's good advice that will help you live a happy, healthy, productive life?
Kind of comical how you're utterly incapable of answering the simple question.

>>23201146
Because you're taking life advice from a hypocrite whose life is in shambles?

>>23205402
>whose life is in shambles?
Holy projection.

>>23206178
>is such a drug addict he had to go into a coma

>>23201131
He said that diversity is brilliant for London and, subsequently, Britain, as he ate a cold, slightly unpleasant plate of canned spaghetti in the 1980s. I wish I were joking. He does all this while slamming multiculturalism. The utter glib. His mind, much like his cock and balls, is impotent.

His logic, the gift of Peterson, behold!

"I don't like British food, and, therefore, the bantuification of Britain is a good thing."

I hope he gets sodomised by a torture of Nigerians, oh, what a brilliant conception by his own words! I'm going to piss on his books. Goodbye.

>>23206189
Peterson took a doctor prescribed medication. At the time it was being handed out like candy for pretty much anything because it was seen as harmless (you can easily find celebrities on late night talk shows joking about taking them). It is now rarely prescribed due to the fact it creates physical dependancy even at low doses over short periods of time and causes extreme withdrawal symptoms (up to and including death). Having an adverse reaction to a prescribed drug doesn't make someone a drug addict. There is no evidence he abused the medication (i.e. his experience became so common that the drug is hardly prescribed now).

When he initially sought treatment in Canada they wanted to give him SSRIs and misdiagnosed him. He took the initiative to research treatment options and went to Russia where a programme specifically developed for medication withdraw was available.

Immediately after his treatment he finished and published his second worldwide bestselling book. Within months he had organized and gone on an international lecture tour. He also published multiple articles and made some media appearances. He has also set up an accredited online university that will offer free degrees, organized a think tank to combat the hegemony of shit like the WEF, created an online interview series with hundreds of episodes etc...

The narrative that there was a character defining downward spiral into drug addiction is doesn't bare up to reality. I'm honestly embaressed so many people have been holding onto it for half a decade now. Imagine being so pathetically delusional that you parrot the same easily disproved ad homs in an autistic echo chamber for years on end thinking they land; in that time Peterson has gone on to much success.

>>23201131
Didn't his wife have terminal cancer and then somehow recovered miraculously? After that, he went to Russia for "benzo addiction", then all his work took a strange tonal shift.

I can't help but think that the guy owes someone a shit-ton of money.

>>23206983
This was literally never an argument. You don't have to subsist on canned spaghetti(which is for children, by the way), and you don't need to replace a population to import a few spices, and cook something.
How actually stupid are people who parrot this stuff? I don't get it.
Does food just not exist to them, unless they can order it delivered to their house in ten minutes? Even that's not an argument, because you don't have to be brown to run a delivery service.

>>23202858
There are countless psychologists with similar credentials and noone on 4chan knows them. People like Peterson for his political views.

>>23201131
>Juden Peterstein

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>>23205402
If objective truth is spoken or written, the source doesn't matter
Whether it comes from some nigger/peterson/hitler/mao/chrischan has no bearing on whether it's factual or not, only the on the crediblity of the person and not the advice itself
The only thing that matters is that the information was correct

Would you also say that a marine who tells you not to join the marines during active war time because he lost his legs and all his friends died is giving bad advice because he didn't follow it himself?
You would only scrutinize his advice for validity of the statement itself and not solely on the merit for which his life turned out as that is merely a supporting facet

>>23208608
He's not gonna fuck you bro

>>23203167
>something anybody ought to know if they just pause and think for a minute or two.
so 99.99% of people will not know

>>23203067
this is some sort of appeal to authority you're pulling. if you're incapable of judging information on its own that's a you problem.

>>23208608
Don't bother explaining yourself to these zoomers. They're doomed.