/lit/ - Literature

[spoiler]>>2327767
i enjoyed the eragon series, umad?</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327783
I think he was on your side, you putz.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327821
>I'm scared it'll be shit since it's so popular

Don't judge a book on its fanbase.</spoiler>

[spoiler]Also..hey op, my girlfriend's into these kind of books and she loves dragons and fantasy. What would be the best gift to give her?
I already bought her the game of thrones, but I'm scared it'll be shit since it's so popular.

Also, English isn't our mother tongue so I'd be great if I could order a hardcover book online in English, especially if it isn't available in our area.

Most books written in English here are either shitty pocket editions or generic crap for the Hallmark soccer mom.</spoiler>

[spoiler]Speaking as a game designer, fuck you for shitting on my field, classist. Go sip a brandy in your study.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327823
Well I did already buy it and she said she loves it, I just didn't want her to think I put little to no effort into it since it's a hit, you know?</spoiler>

I like Mistborn.

[spoiler]The First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie is pretty good.

I'm currently on the 3rd book of the trilogy. The characters are really well built and the plot has got magical themes but not overly outlandish. The writing itself is top class to boot. I highly recommend this series.</spoiler>

[spoiler]For others interested in Australian literature, check out the Second Sons trilogy by Jennifer Fallon.

Its fantasy without magic. The plot revolves around a very talented young man thrown into the midst of political intrigue and how he has to use his genius and cunning to survive. As with most female authors, romance also comes into play in the plot, but Jenifer Fallon's females aren't the typical and boring Mary Sue characters. Fallon's talent at creating dialogue that comes natural means that the characters in her book are very vividly fleshed out.

A highly gripping and suspenseful read with a satisfying conclusion that wraps up the intricacies of the overall plot.</spoiler>

[spoiler]Those who are interested in fantasy stories set in the modern world should check out the Monster Hunter International series by Larry Coreia.

The first 2 books of the series revolve around an accountant, who after tossing his werewolf of a boss out of the window, ended up in a monster hunting career.

The story is fast paced, full of action and humour. The author puts a twist on the general perception of how elves, orcs and other mythical creatures should be. Vampires and werewolves feature heavily, but unlike Twilight, they feature often in the presence of heavy firearms, flamethowers and melee weapons.

There's no plot and emotional rollercoaster in this book. Everything's just a fast paced, thoroughly enjoyable train ride.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327858
Breeze is best supporting character.

Don't deny it.</spoiler>

[spoiler]Eragon is way better than lord of the rings

I can actually relate to the characters and it isn't BORING.

It gives you this feeling of being realistic in some ways idk</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327866
I like it but I'm at book two and they started to fuck each other.
I now only wonder if they will stay together or not and it's really distracting from the story, still very good.Just as the characters said now its gotten very complicated.


>>2327858
read Alloy of Law then


>>2327821

orther The Way of Kings, no way she wont like it

its a huge book though</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327866
>>2327866
>>2327866
>>2327866

Fucking love novels with anti-heroes!</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327898

Oh me too mate. Sorry to detract from OP, but does anyone has suggestions for novels with anti heroes in them?</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327858
What exactly happened when [spoiler]Elend duralumin burned atium at the end? It just says he came to an understanding. I was tired and didn't really understand what was happening. Care to explain.[/spoiler]</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327927

I think it meant he figured out that atium was Ruin's mortal body and that burning it would deny him of being physically manifested. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember the context of that quote.</spoiler>

[spoiler]The Bartimaeus Trilogy was fantastic and is one of the only YA fantasy novels I devoured in my early-mid teens that I can still stomach. Interesting magic system, characters, plot, etc. The last book especially was excellent, very well paced.

Other fantasy books I've greatly enjoyed:
-A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin. Whatever you may say about its popularity, it's a deeply engrossing read, especially the first three.

-The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. Might be my favorite fantasy series ever. The definition of a book you can't put down.

-Mistborn Trilogy by Brandon Sanderson, most people who like Night Angel will like this and vice versa.

-Warbreaker also by Brandon Sanderson.

-LOTR is great but I would read it for very different reasons than almost any other fantasy.</spoiler>

[spoiler]This shit right here

Best fantasy books I've ever read. I hear Times of Contempt is due this year in english.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327826
I have no problem with /v/.

My point is that a lot of people on this board going on about the whole my taste > yours shit, and you should feel bad if you like anything that isn't 2deep4u, are no better than /v/ faggots screaming "pc master race" and "NO GAEMZ!"</spoiler>

[spoiler]>he thinks fantasy amounts to LoTR and Eragon
>laughinghoward.jpg</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328009

Too bad Howard wrote less than a dozen good stories. Seriously, I love a good pulp, but most of Howard's work isn't good pulp, it's tripe.</spoiler>

[spoiler]Wheel of time anyone? it has werewolf rape.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328018


Wheel of time was my entry to fantasy some of the books can move slow at times. But it's good seriess alround especially after the author changes, not to speak ill of the dead, the first writer was still good. Just not as good as the second.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328012
you mean just like everything else mentioned so far ITT?</spoiler>

[spoiler]There are probably 10 or so decent English language authors who write what could justly be called fantasy</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328037

such as?</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328037
Care to name them?</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328037</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327767

Hey OP, I have a signed copy of that book and the sequel. Stroud's a fan of Frank Miller's Elektra it turns out.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>browse /lit/ for 15 minutes
>add 3 items to my wishlist

every time</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328070
Better have had been Mistborn nigger.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328080

>implying it wasn't already there

nigga please</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328012
>Too bad Howard wrote less than a dozen good stories.

Wait, have you read anything by Howard?</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328050
>>2328054
Not the same guy but probably among them are Howard, Lovecraft, Pratchett, Cook and Moorcock.</spoiler>

[spoiler]Crowley, Lafferty, Cabell, Wolfe, Tolkien, Peake, Beagle, Harrison, Dunsany, Beagle?

(there are actually more than 10, that guy is just wrong)</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328191
oh shit i said Beagle twice. Uhhhh, Patricia McKillip, Thorne Smith, William Morris, Jack Vance.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328187
Cook wrote a novel that is 400 pages of some dude with no personality whatsoever gawking at big-titted princesses followed by literally Jews killing Odin. Please don't put him on the same level as Howard or Lovecraft.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328191
>no Lovecraft

This pic shows what every man should do to his disgusting penis. Society would improve.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328211
howard and lovecraft are not even that high a level

although i'll always love howard just for the introduction to Phoenix On The Sword ("know, oh prince, that between the time when the oceans drank atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the rise of the sons of aryas, there was an age undreamed of..."). absolutely great, beautiful and perfectly fantastic. shame nothing else he wrote really lived up to it.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328218
>howard and lovecraft are not even that high a level

Please stop posting.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328216
which writer out of those 10 is lovecraft better than

for real</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328220
>implying most of those writers didn't write the same boring, cliché-ridden tolkienesque generic stuff</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328227
yeah, you have no idea who any of those people are, do you? because the only one of those who's remotely tolkien-esque is tolkien

peake, cabell, and dunsany were contemporaneous with or before tolkien, crowley and beagle write fantasy set in the contemporary world, wolfe and harrison are nothing like tolkien, lafferty is incomporable. maybe you should read some of their works, because they're actually all really really good!</spoiler>

[spoiler]It's funny that nobody in this century has written anything resembling decent fantasy.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328236
I've heard of Wolfe and Dusany, but this:

>fantasy set in the contemporary world
WHY.jpg</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328250
Little, Big and a Fine And Private Place are actually really good, sorry not everything is epic fantasy.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328252
>if it's not in the contemporary world, it's epic fantasy
hahaha oh wow</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328247
Night Angel Trilogy.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327767
Read AoS and the one after it, thought they were both shit so I didn't buy the third.

I'm not huge on fantasy, but I will say one thing: I have a huge boner for Dragon Lance novels. Ever since I bought the War of Souls trilogy I was hooked.

Also, Eragon was shit.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328211
>Cook wrote a novel that is 400 pages of some dude with no personality whatsoever gawking at big-titted princesses followed by literally Jews killing Odin.

I don't remember that from The Black Company</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328282
Tyranny of the Night, the first of his other awful series. That someone who wrote this garbage could be thought of as one of the greats of contemporary fantasy says a lot about the state of the genre.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328288
>That someone who wrote this garbage could be thought of as one of the greats of contemporary fantasy says a lot about the state of the genre.

You know, Albert Camus wrote a lot of garbage in his time. Most writers must write a lot of shit in order to eat everyday before they get famous.</spoiler>

[spoiler]For historical value, Tolkien, Howard, Lovecraft, David Lindsay, and to some extent Peake are worth respecting. Contemporary authors who are decent or better are Wolfe, Tad Williams, maybe Swanwick, and probably Martin and Bakker although they should really just become the same person already and save the rest of us the trouble of telling them apart.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328288
Ah, okay. My favorite fantasy writers are Peake, Dunsay and Wolfe.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328304

Dunsany is quality and tends to get overlooked because of the age (&correspondingly the style), which is a huge mistake. If anyone in this thread has not read Gods of Pegāna they can go get the fuck out till they've finished it.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328310

Motherfuckin' Dunsany:

>"There are my 'Poe' pieces and my 'Dunsany' pieces—but alas—where are my Lovecraft pieces?"
>H.P. Lovecraft</spoiler>

[spoiler]What do you guys think about raymond e feist? Ive read his first six books in the magician series and I find them great</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328310
>70 bucks for the 1st book of 24</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328288
The fact that you didn't like that series - I for one haven't read it - doesn't make the Black Company bad. Being the most famous series by Gleen Cock I think that was what
>>2328187 had in mind.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327866
>>2327866
>>2327866

FIRST LAW UP IN THIS BITCH. Fucking amazing books, just picked up Best Served Cold. After my exams next week, i'm going to figuratively staple my face to this book.</spoiler>

[spoiler]OP here.
I'm not into contemporary fantasy.
Harry pot head is the closest I got to that, and they abandon the contemporary world for a more fantasy like world pretty quick in each book.

Shit doesn't have to be midevil, bartimus isn't.
But contemporary usually rubs me the wrong way. They tend to be angsty, teen-ish, and campy like you would expect any modern vampire/werewolf novel to be.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2329061
I only read contemporary.
DEALWITHIT</spoiler>

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[spoiler]>>2327767
Bartimeus is as bad as Eragon (sadly, I wasted a month reading them all)
>To Kill A Mockingbird
It sucks and you suck for liking it.
Also, I'm reading Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams. Anyone else read it.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2330237
how the fuck do you waste a month reading a few books?

why are you incapable of throwing a book in the garbage when it is obviously shit?</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2330223
Enjoy your
>Twilight: Wizard Edition</spoiler>

[spoiler]Anyone here read the Earthsea novels by Ursula K. Le Guin?

Gone through the first three, trying to find the fourth. Anyone know if 4-6 are good? I hear the 5th is a collection of short stories.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2331264
The only one I read was a wizard of earthsea and I loved it.
I need to get around to the west.
It's a shame there aren't any good adaptions.

The scifi channel miniseries was a total flop, and the studio ghibli one was mediocre at best.
But because neither did faithful adaptions, the author refuses to ever allow anybody to try and adapt it again.
We'll just have to wait for her to die I guess.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2328018

I don't remember any werewolf rape in the Wheel of Time. Granted, I've only got up to book TEN of FUCKING FOURTEEN.

Good stuff, though.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2331814
I've refused to read it because that's just too many god damn books. I can't help but assume that it either drags ass or pulls some dragon ball z bullshit where every time you turn around some new stupid ass excuse exists to keep making money. there's no reason it should be that long.

But more importantly, I'd rather read 4 different trilogies than 1 12 book series.</spoiler>