/lit/ - Literature

yes

>>23302439
Neither plays nor screenplays are literature OR both plays and screenplays are literature. BUT you can’t have one without the other.

>>23302457
well then I think one would be silly to dismiss shakespeare as not literature

>>23302439
>written works, especially those considered of superior or lasting artistic merit
As far as I'm aware (I'm ignorant to tv so please correct me if I'm wrong) screenplays don't "last" in their written form. They film the script and it gets thrown away or privately archived after its use has been fulfilled.
I can buy written books from Shakespeare or numerous other Greek or Latin playwrights, however I'm not sure if I would be able to find a book of screenplays.
Television is still a relatively new media and there are still historical things happening like Disney's copyright of steamboat willy finally expiring, so maybe things can change in the future.

>>23302504
> I can buy written books from Shakespeare or numerous other Greek or Latin playwrights, however I'm not sure if I would be able to find a book of screenplays
Retard.

>>23302439
Are blueprints buildings?

>>23302508
>downloaded cherry picked image off reddit
Show me which aisle of the bookstore is the screenplays aisle. You can literally buy anything online.

>>23302575
The Strand (NYC book store) has a section for screenplays. In any case distribution is irrelevant and you’re a retarded pleb.

>>23302439
Sort of, but not really.

>>23302439
Exterior. Spaceship. Day. Nicolas Cage is surveying the earth. Push in on a plucky yellow sponge in his mid-twenties. Lanky, in squarish pants. Note to DP: we will see his full, erect penis.

>>23302610
That’s a shooting script. Screenplays don’t have actors names nor notes to DP.

>>23302504
>>23302575
You can definitely find the screenplays to all of your favorite movies online, often for free, and being actively read at the very least by screenwriters. I'm not sure why commercialization comes into play

>>23302616
You're thinking of shooting vs. spec screenplays. But you're right, that's called directing on the page and it's frowned upon for spec screenplays

>>23302515
>screenplays are just blueprints
But I mean, technically so is a theatrical script, so >>23302457's logic kicks in.

>>23303375
>writing something you won't direct
What kind of cúck shit is this?

>>23302439
I'm tempted to say yes, but the thing is most screenplays lack any personality outside of narrative themes and how a writer writes their dialogue. There's something mechanical about the process of writing a screenplay, you have to adhere to a strict set of rules in order to make it as appealing to kike producers as possible.
That being said, Withnail and I is my favourite screenplay. The way it's written makes it seem like it's actually written by a real person and not an agent of the film industry. Although it was an independent movie, not some big Hollywood blockbuster.

>>23303386
based auti̶s̶t̶eur

>>23302457
they obviously both are literature

>>23303385
I would have given the same answer if OP asked if plays were literature. Plays are first and foremost about performance, the execution of that performance and how the written is interpreted into the performed. Literature can only deal with maybe a quarter of what plays and screenplays actually are, calling them literature actually reduces them to less than they really are. No matter how good a play is from a literary standpoint it will always fail in comparison to seeing a good production of it and the shared emotion of the audience and the audiences interaction with that production.

>>23302508
>of lasting artistic merit
>released in 2018
You're not disproving my point at all.

>>23305221
>specially those considered of superior OR lasting artistic merit
>superior OR lasting artistic merit
Yes, I am.

>>23305233
What about this 2018 HBO tv show screenplay makes it superior and why don't you own a copy of it yourself instead of stealing images from reddit?

>>23305239
>What about this 2018 HBO tv show screenplay makes it superior
Have you watched it? It's one of the most critically acclaimed tv shows.
>why don't you own a copy of it yourself instead of stealing images from reddit?
You sound like this >>23302575 retard. Why reply twice? It's a photo from AbeBooks.

>>23305249
So you don't own it and haven't read it in it's written form?
I'm going to come out and say it, the Halo master chief novels are some of the best books of all time. I've never read them I just had fun playing Halo 3.

>>23305291
>So you don't own it and haven't read it in it's written form?
Not yet but I've read other screenplays. This was merely an example.
>I'm going to come out and say it, the Halo master chief novels are some of the best books of all time. I've never read them I just had fun playing Halo 3.
lol you're such a butthurt retard. Useless talking with such filth.

>WHAT?? YOU CAN BUY SCREENPLAYS?? I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAAHHHHH

>>23305299
Halo is one of the most critically acclaimed video games of all time, have you even played it?

>>23305422
That's not why I called you a retard

>>23305431
It's easy to call the mirror image of yourself a retard but it's harder to come to terms with yourself.