/lit/ - Literature

nice thread. thanks for baking new. OP is based.

>>23364090
thanks man. Just to start discussion with all the anons:

What's your favorite duel/fight-to-the-death scenario in fantasy? Anything that ranges from a swordfight that has high stakes or some sort gamble a hero makes in a one on one?

Mine's probably pic related, which is Iorek vs. Iofur in His Dark Materials but a close second might be The Viper vs. The Mountain in ASOAIF. Both are pretty tense and badass with high stakes

>>23364111
The most memorable moment like that for me is in chapter 4 of Queen of the Black Coast.

>>23364111
very recent example but Darrow vs Volsong Fa in Lightbringer by Pierce Brown.
>CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!
>CONFESS
is eternally seared into my mind

>>23364129
i realized after the fact you said fantasy but idk ive seen people call Red Rising science fantasy once or twice so I think could still fit lol

>>23364122
damn. This makes me want to read Conan now. Never read any but I do have one I found in a free book shelf written by Robert Jordan.

>>23364135
I mean I put fantasy automatically because I don't read much sci-fi but still fits

>>23364145
I would recommend reading the original Howard stories. Jordan's not the worst pastiche writer but there are some things I don't think he quite understands about Conan. He's a bit too clean.

>>23364153
noted

>>23364135
red rising is in no way science fantasy, its a space opera so people get confused

>>23364169
oh yeah i agree its not a term that really fits it i was just scraping for a way to make it fit because I posted before really reading what the guy said

So dumb question but is there any online store you guys would recommend? Normally I use Amazon but I wondering there were any solid bargain outlets that have good discounts off MSRP. Sort of like an In Stock Trades of Cheap Graphic Novels for non comics.

Has anyone read Bastion by Phil Tucker? Is it good?

>>23364206
Those who have rated it and written about it here say it's decent or worse.

>>23364111
more of a sacrifice than a duel or a fight, but caeden vs his younger self in the light of all that falls is a really good emotional battle.

>>23364081
Read Beyond The Ice

>>23364503
No. Also;
>Not MaChilla Gorilla
Apply yourself better.

>>23364081
>Dark Elf Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore
>Dragonlance Chronicles and Legends by Weis and Hickman
>Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn
>Gaunt's Ghosts by Dan Abnett
are there any other franchise books worth reading?

>>23364651
I used to read the Wing Commander books as a kid. I can't recall much of them though if I'm being perfectly frank.

>>23364503
>those gorilla Cyclops in the back

>>23364651
Robotech books are comfy

Sanderson just takes way too many words to tell a reasonably simple story

Tried reading the Blacktongue Thief and the prose is just absolute dogshit.

>>23365060
Now read Buehlman's superior book, "Between Two Fires."

Bakker is king

gonna go pick up some wendy's before I lay down to read for the rest of the day. yall want anything?

>>23365157
No, thanks anon. What are you reading?

>>23365122
No, I don't think I will.

>>23365185
dark age

>>23365135
remember the secret of battle

I need some stuff that feels like Metal Gear. Near future espionage, advanced technology, preferably set on Earth. Any recs?

The skill gap between S&S masters like Howard and Wagner vs the amateur schmucks who fill up generic anthologies in imitation of the masters is insane. The S&S master stories sound like they have meaning and a purpose, but it seems like the imitators lost that point and relegated the subgenre to its most base qualities. Strong barbaric protag, shallow love interest, evil world, etc. I think the contrast in skill is greater than any other type of literature I've read.

>>23365589
I've noticed the same thing. I'm surprised someone with talent hasn't noticed and taken advantage of the complete lack of competition in the genre. I guess there's no reason to since there is no market for S&S these days.

When will he return? I've already accepted Martin has given up and we'll never see the end of ASOIAF, but surely Gentlemen Bastards will still continue, right?

>>23365331
and vampires right?
Necroscope by Brian Lumley

>>23365331
Steve Engleharts run on Captain America issues 153-186

>>23365927
Roger Sterns run on Captain America issues 247-255 but specifically 253-254

>>23364081
the full Gene Wolfe folder.
novels/short story anthologies/solar cycle/chapter guides/other related books.
https://mega.nz/folder/QYgByKRD#cXp7M8kkZOB1sKkTs-TbIQ

Mountain in the Sea had a great start, interesting worldbuilding bits, and killer octopuses. And halfway through, Nayler seemed to think that nuance ceased to exist and every character turned into a redditor, hating humanity but loving the sound of his own voice.

Peak culture

Finished this earlier today so now I can join the club of anons who recently also finished Disquiet Gods. Solid read and definitely the weirdest of the series so far. I like Cassandra but I'd like to see her do more in book 7 honestly, I'm glad she doesn't come off as a Mary Sue instant badass stereotype that plagues too much fiction these days. I really think the book split stands out extra hard this time around I almost wish I delayed reading this series until it's finished but it is what it is I'll just have to be patient.

I do have a question for anyone else who has read this so far, what exactly is the point of the quiet changing how Hadrian looks? Maybe I missed or forgot something while I was reading but I can't think of a single reason it was done beside maybe to make things more tense following his second resurrection with Cassandra and his crew.

>>23364200
i assume you mean for physical?
thriftbooks is the best imo. they buy books in bulk from goodwills, libraries, etc., personally check their quality, and then resell at a really low markup
if you've ever bought a book from Abe or even Amazon used there's a good chance it was actually from these guys
their new stuff is always below MSRP and they frequently have sales and coupons. i buy all my kids' books there and even used stuff is in very, very good condition

Get to the fucking point Tad, you keep going on and on about the most trivial daily tasks and descriptions. Your world isnt that gripping. Well written but dear god please trim this shit

Is it believable that a race that lives hundreds of years would be the only race in the setting to do democracy?

SF/fantasy books like Rian Hughes's XX that are more experimental.
Read Dhalgren and most other well-known scifi novels so looking for more niche reads.
I've been waiting for an English translation of The Troiacord forever and need something to scratch that itch for novel scifi meanwhile.

>>23366394
Neat. Thanks mate.

>>23366422
democracies are already unbelievable, you combine that with people living hundreds of years and what you have is a geriatric oligarchy

>>23366174
Utterly bizarre twist

>>23364200
>>23366394

Thriftbooks seems good but I have seen good deals on mercari and ebay if you're fastidious and specific. There's sometimes "buy X, get X free/get 10-30% discount on order from store" coupons on ebay.

Mercari is a YMMV place. I've found some gems on there. Got me a big robert e howard lot that woulda realistically been sold on amazon for way way more.

I also hear pangobooks is alright. Never tried it myself. Pangobooks, Mercari, and Ebay are very much a "fuck around and try to find what you're looking for" scenario.

>Pangobooks may be more useful if you're looking for something that doesn't have a bad existing circulation and is in publication. I've seen the modern heinlein/asimov/clarke/bradbury reprints go on there fairly often. Penguin classics, etc. You could possibly find some other stuff for good on there but we warned that you're paying for the shipping price yourself. It's still a fine place to check out stuff.

>Ebay. You're gonna have to release the trawling nets for this one. Could be great, could stink. I've found a few hits here, such as grabbing SF Masterworks copies of I am Legend/Lord of Light for good prices.

>Mercari is a major crapshoot and feels like it's got mostly boomers or foreigners on it. You'll notice that you gotta pay shipping for most things on it and that, often, sellers don't really know how to price things. However, you'll occasionally find a good lot of books or something that's way underpriced for what it normally goes for. I saw that late 90s/mid 00s omnibus of The Book of the New Sun go for like 40? bucks recently and I was kicking myself for not recognizing it sooner as I'm a bit of a newbie at SF/F. Mercari also has coupons where YMMV.

Amazon, I've got stuff from them. It can be nice on occasion.

Can other anons enlighten me on thriftbooks? I'm mostly interested in the usual classic SF/F and Pulps. Found out that Splatterlight Press has kept all of Jack Vances work in publication and I'm curious-ish about it all.

On the other hand, I've seen someone try to sell shitty old paperback omnibus of the foundation trilogy or LoTR on Mercari for 40+ dollars. I seriously doubt they're worth that kinda money.

I could read look to windward or finally read my first sandermeme novel (way of kings I guess ?)

>>23366410
>reading cuckshit

wish i was a sword cultivator

>>23366174
Excession and Player of Games were better. People like UoW because babbys first identity/perspective twist.

>>23366606
junior, you dare?

>>23366410
That's pretty much the entire next 2500 pages of the series you started. Quit while you're ahead.

If you read more than just a few pages of webnovels, what is your biggest problem with them?

>>23366642
Excession is shit. Matter and Look to Windward are the better latter-half Culture books.

>>23366654
Too many are for haremcucks. Sad!

>>23366654
I mean just look at them. You don't even have to read them to know what kind of garbage this shit is gonna be like.

finished this recently and enjoyed it quite a lot. the one thing i thought was weird was that literally none of the main characters die. for a cataclysmic ending you'd expect some more deaths but it just ends abruptly and somewhat awkwardly. in general there are a lack of character deaths in this book.

also, what should i read next?

>>23366654
when the world is overly racist/sexist/has slavery (in an unrealistic way) so that the author can preach through the main character. i get that a fantasy world may have societal issues but making it the focus and yapping about it so much puts me off.

>>23366711
>when the world is overly racist/sexist/has slavery (in an unrealistic way) so that the author can preach through the main character
is this an english thing? even jappos have their protags be a goodguy by treating his slaves nice instead of like an asshole, he's still got them and accepts the paradigm

>>23366654
Even those with good ideas and thoughts in them are written by total amateurs who have no clue what they are doing. Writing is a skill that you need to work on for years to get it right, even the most talented of amateurs cant shit out a masterpiece with no practice and no training.
The nature of the media(many with daily output) encourages poorly thought out filler and little long term plot planning.
Many of them are written and read by underage and ESL phoneposting dronebrains who barely have the attention span to watch a tiktok, which worsens the above.
These things lead each and every one of them to be irredeemable shit. And yes, I have read a meaningful amount of them

>>23365331
Project Itoh was a Metal Gear fanfic writer who was so good he became friends with Kojima himself, he wrote some standalone novels too like Genocidal Organ and Harmony which are well regarded.
Yukikaze by Chōhei Kambayashi might also be a good read.

>>23366722
i wouldnt say its very common but ive seen it a few times. with web serials/novels it happens. also the "virgin isekai japanese dude gets slave on chapter 1 but is totally super nice" is such a common trope. i used to mainly read japanese fantasy wn/lns but there are a few tropes that are so overused like forcing conflict by making things a misunderstanding or protagonist just being "so unlucky". dear god.

>>23366665
Matter spent too much time in the shitty boring trite corrupt poor medieval setting. Look to Windward spent too much time on CROCODILE COMPOSER DOESN'T WANT TO GO BACK TO HIS HOME WORLD BAWWWWWWWWWWWW however I will say that the book stood out due to all the introspection and lamentation of Hub.
Excession could have been much better if it were more focused on Mind interaction and action; if the book were more like the first big scene where the ITG infiltrates and takes over the conspiracy.

>>23365331
Maybe 'Rainbows End' by Vernor Vinge. It is lots of espionage, very near future, high tech etc. Actually this is probably what you want but it's not always presenting itself as super intensely serious at all times. Anyway give it a shot.

>>23366654
Even if the premise is interesting the lack of planning and editing that almost universally plagues them renders them nearly unreadable. In attempting to read a couple I noticed specifically the world would often conform to the thoughts of the MC in the strangest ways (which makes sense if you realize the MC is usually literally the author). A long standing character may have always had a flat and straightforward relationship with the MC and then in chapter 50 he will think something like "She has always been like a little sister to me" and from that moment on he will start calling her "sis" and patting her head like an anime character and she will start referring to him as "big bro." Or very often the MC will act out of character with his origin in order to fulfill an incredible cringe nerd fantasy or make references he wouldn't possibly make. Like in a story set in the distant future the MC might come across or invent something resembling a lightsaber and then say "it reminded me of a weapon from a film I discovered when I was exploring the ancient archives" and then he will start larping as a jedi as if that somehow makes sense, saying "the force is strong with this one" and "i am your father" and shit like that.

If there are good web novels I haven't come across them. The translation quality for the chinese ones is enough to keep me away, but the western ones i've tried were also all incredibly shit.

Are there any good scifi book youtubers actually worth watching?

>>23366410
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>>23366644
Dopamine fried brains filtered

>>23366837
I would gladly read 2500 pages of one writers work, and have, but it needs to be worth it when I could be reading something better. Williams endlessly wastes ink on meaningless, irrelevant, and overwrought passages

>>23366732
The bigger problem is that most GOOD IDEAS are really just gimmicks or single thoughts for a character or scene. But then they have absolutely zero clue beyond that. There's no story. And their idea is usually something along the lines of "What if GENERIC PREMISES BUT THE HERO IS ____." It's enough of a HOOK to maybe catch an editor's eye as they have to sort through pile after pile of this crap but there's no thought beyond that. No goal. It'd be like if JRR wrote his big fantasy "As what if regular was a short fat guy who would rather eat" but then had zero plot, zero moral, zero events and the hobbit and the dwarves never mad any progress for a dozen volumes.

>>23366309
>what exactly is the point of the quiet changing how Hadrian looks?
well he doesnt sleep anymore so presumably its a "we made you better" type deal. also it makes it so hadrian was wrong to think that he had gone past his vision, since he had assumed he was incapable if still killing the star since he was young in the vision.

>>23366845
MS&T is one of my favorite series, so I'll agree to disagree. I'm not saying his plot doesn't move glacially, because it does, but I still find it super enjoyable and imo the payoffs are worth it.

Did you enjoy LOTR, btw? Because I absolutely love LOTR but it is just as slow, if not more than so MS&T. So there must be something else you're not liking besides the pace if you enjoy LOTR

Are there any S&S stories with a female protagonist who dominates men or women by making them perform cunnilingus on her

>>23366907
I do like LOTR, but Tolkien's wonderful wordplay and snugness arent there enough in Williams, though he is a good writer. Since you spoke so well of it I'll keep reading for a bit, I don't hate it but its gets tiresome after hundreds of pages where barely anything seems to happen

>>23366902
That was something I forgot to mention but yeah I can understand making him younger to fit into the vision he saw in Howling Dark but fixing his trademark Marlowe crooked smirk and other slight facial differences just seems an odd detail to me

>>23366918
Harry Potter

>>23366934
I guess I get it, even though I found The Dragonbone Chair extremely comfy. I wouldn't tell you to force yourself to read something if you're not enjoying it but To Green Angel Tower is one of my favorite series endings in fantasy. Take that as you will lol

>>23366937
there is a point. remember, by the end of dg the empire is still unaware of his transformation.

what i will say though is that i am annoyed by how powerless the emperor is.

Currently reading Rumo & His Miraculous Adventures and it's a lot more violent than Captain Bluebear, which is set in the same world. Highly recommend it to anyone looking for some weird and unique fantasy

finished the first Elric book.

Fuck, that's good. Time to finish the rest in the Elric Omnibus Vol 1. I think I'll grab the rest of the omnibus this year.

>>23367032
limited power...

>>23367132
no seriously, he cant even keep his own wife in check wgat the fuck is wrong with him. i understand the church and other houses being able to act against him, but nigga get your house in order for fucks sake.

i will not lie though i would gobble those toes

>>23367138
I have to admire Hadrian's self control, I would have absolutely ravaged Selene at every possible moment

>>23367147
I liked the part where it was revealed that cassandra had been trying to get him to do it, only to feel apprehensive when they actually did some pda. funniest shit, i love cassandra shes such a child.

Nogod series fucking WHEN

>>23367165
you didnt see Bakker died last week?

I just read Sixteen Ways... what did i think of it


i had fun

>>23367163
One of these days I need to read those Tales of the Sun Eater collections apparently one of them is told from Cassandra's POV

>>23367194
Goddamn arrow.

The Light After

>>23366602
What? I don't remember Simon getting cucked

>>23367255
He doesn't.

I was just in Brandon Sanderson’s house to join his team and sat in his YouTube chair. I didn’t get it. Kinda bummed about it. It wasn’t much money, but as a guy trying to break in as a fantasy novelist since I was a teenager, it would have been cool.

>>23367423
Are you larping or for real?

>>23367426

It’s real. I had three interviews and it took two months. I thought it went well and I have a lot of experience, so I don’t know why it didn’t work out. I have a theory, though.

>>23367432
It's cause you're not Mormon.
IDIOT.

>>23367196
I decided to wait until the series is over to do that.

>>23367423
wtf does he need a team for?

>>23367437

Yeah. Welcome to living in Utah. It has nothing to do with Brandon, though. It was decided by his team.

>>23367440

He got something like 15 core people that run all his design, marketing, video, and web stuff, and then another 50 in the warehouse. Keep in mind he sold tens of millions of books on Kickstarter and his people have to ship it out.

>>23367451
oh i didnt know he shipped his own books, thats cool

>>23367451

I guess I should say tens of millions of dollars worth, I don’t know how many books.

>>23367453

Just the secret projects books. There’s just a few. The publishers still handle marketing and distribution for his main books.

Mostly they’re moving his leatherbound editions, which he does ship out of his Utah warehouse.

>>23367457
oh, fuck him then. finish stormlight you turbo nigger stop creating new stories before you finish your old ones.

>>23367458

He is. Brandon is always writing. That’s why his team is running things for him. When he does do a livestream he’s signing books the whole time. When he’s doing that he’s making 20k an hour. That’s what I was told, anyway. He’s actually incredibly efficient with time, which explains why he’s written over 40 books in 10 years.

Anyway, I just wanted to complain. It’s late and I hate the captcha. So I’m going to bed.

>>23367463
HES WRITING THE WRONG THINGS
FUCK

>>23367463
>40 books in 10 years
>zero complete series
i hate i hate i hate i hate i hate

>>23367463
>which explains why he’s written over 40 books in 10 years.
and every single one of them is YA drivel for slop-brained retards like (You)

>>23366492
Democracies are plenty believeable.
One working is the joke.
>>23366654
>if I read webnovels
I don't think I've seen a single webnovel to read in the first place, so I've never had the choice!

Has anyone read the Gilgamesh retelling by Silverber?
Alternatively is there any ancient/bronze age historical fiction that is relatively historically accurate? I don't care if there's magic or gods or whatever

>>23367500
Hebrew Xianxia

Thoughts on this series?

>>23367682
i liked it

>>23367682
The first book is good and the second was my favorite. The third lost me, though.

>>23367832
>got filtered by high concept sci fi
many such cases :(

>>23367682
It became popular, therefore many people here will say they hate it. I thought it was pretty good with some interesting concepts.

>>23367472
Correct. It's absolute fucking garbage. Only teenage girls enjoy his books.

Tim Cain, creator of Fallout, listed these as some of his favorite books:
>lord of light
>roadside picnic
>empire of the east
>dying earth
>book of the new sun
>excession
>blindsight
>the left hand of darkness
>the night land
>last and first men
>revelation space
What are our thoughts on his taste?

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>>23367912
Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good?!?!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good???? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

>>23367916
That all hinges on whether you're pro-circumcision or not.

>>23367922
great post :)

>>23367912
/sffg/-core

I can't find a "stupid questions" thread. If I buy a book on Amazon using Kindle, what format can I download it in? Or is it only an online ebook that I have to read using their website?

It's a science fiction author I want to buy the book of, if that helps -- Fenton Wood, "Hacking Galileo". His "Yankee Republic" series is truly great YA, even readable by crusty boomers like me. (I fucking hate YA.)

Read Tenebroum

>>23368027
Whatever the latest kindle format is (azw3?) But you will have to go on a website using pc

>>23368027
You can download an ebook to your Kindle (duh) or read it online through their Kindle reader program. Like the other anon said, their native format is azw3 but you can also read .mobi files on a Kindle (if you were to download an epub or whatever and convert it to either of the two above formats).

>>23365211
You're right. Perhaps YA romantic comedies are more your speed.

>>23368027
Unless you specifically want to support that author you could just use Zlib or Annas Archive and just download the epub and convert it to mobi so put it on your kindle with calibre

is wheel of time worth it, i started the first and im struggling

>>23367890
This is unironically true. You can most of the time tell the quality of a work by its core audience

>>23368116
>You don't like eating shit, you say? Well, have you tried eating this shit? It's from the same asshole but it got shat out after having Mexican food.
I'm never reading anything else that hack put out, and if this is how retarded his fans are I'm certain I won't miss out.

>>23368152

I'm on book three so far it's been decent first one felt incredibly generic and very by the books Tolkien copycat but The Great Hunter felt like it developed its own identity a little really fun read compared to the first one especially tonally just felt different all together

Fantasy series where the female mc has to disguise herself as part of the bad guys harem?

>>23366042
>Wolfe
Yikes
>Overall, I found nothing unique in Wolfe. Perhaps it's because I've read quite a bit of odd fantasy; if all I read was mainstream stuff, then I'd surely find Wolfe unpredictable, since he is a step above them. But compared to Leiber, Howard, Dunsany, Eddison, Kipling, Haggard, Peake, Mieville, or Moorcock, Wolfe is nothing special.
>Perhaps I just got my hopes up too high. I imagined something that might evoke Peake or Leiber (at his best), perhaps with a complexity and depth gesturing toward Milton or Ariosto. I could hardly imagine a better book than that, but even a book half that good would be a delight--or a book that was nothing like that, but was unpredictable and seductive in some other way.
>I kept waiting for something to happen, but it never really did. It all plods along without much rise or fall, just the constant moving action to make us think something interesting is happening. I did find some promise, some moments that I would have loved to see the author explore, particularly those odd moments where Silver Age Sci Fi crept in, but each time he touched upon these, he would return immediately to the smallness of his plot and his annoying prick of a narrator. I never found the book to be difficult or complex, merely tiring. the unusual parts were evasive and vague, and the dull parts constant and repetitive.
>The whole structure (or lack of it) does leave things up to interpretation, and perhaps that's what some readers find appealing: that they can superimpose their own thoughts and values onto the narrator, and onto the plot itself. But at that point, they don't like the book Wolfe wrote, they like the book they are writing between his lines.

Finished Star Maker a week ago. Prose was dense and a bit of a slog to get through but the concepts kept me motivated to finish it. Glad I did, enjoyed it immensely. I'm surprised it's not talked about more considering the multitudinous of novel ideas that pop up in sci-fi now.

Also thought he handled the Star Maker very well at the end. I can understand why C.S Lewis was booty blasted by it, kek.

>>23366042
Thanks, anon.

>>23368103
Kindle supports epub now, and no longer supports mobi

>>23366042
Based as fuck. I was just looking to by BotNS this weekend

>>23368412
mobi works just fine its what calibre auto converts mine into when i transfer to my kindle and they work flawlessly

>>23368441
Well maybe it's a USA thing idk

>>23368412
>updating your kindle ever
My Paperwhite supports mobi and does not support epub and works fine :)

To the anon from last thread, I found just the book for you.

>>23368068
Why are midwits so easily impressed by grimderp LE EDGY writing?

What’s with this board and Brandon Sanderson? His books aren’t that bad

>>23368659
They're utter garbage, low-wit.

>>23368387
>Leiber, Howard, Dunsany, Eddison, Kipling, Haggard, Peake, Mieville, or Moorcock
post at least 1 recommendation of each of these authors

Is Kayutas the most human of the half-Dunyain? He just seems like a poor imitation of his father, with little appearance of Dunyain abilities like the rest of his siblings.

>>23368659
Plenty wrong when you follow him for 15 years.

>>23368412
>Kindle supports epub now
dont you need to use that "send to kindle" software or does it natively support it now?

>>23368723
you've always been able to drag and drop files onto your kindle directory

>>23368659
Only read the first Mistborn and meh. Never felt any inclination to keep reading

>Sun eater
>Six books of no suns getting eaten

>>23368319
Great Hunt might be my favorite WoT books by Robert Jordan. Knife of Dreams might be close second

>>23368152
I really liked the first 3, so if you're struggling with the first one it might not be for you. I'd say keep reading until book 2 since that is when I got really hooked with series and see if you have a similar opinion. But you do you

>>23368773
I am not very far at all so its my fault

Shitspren and fartspren

>>23366174
Is this the book with the white chair?

Just read the entirety of the Red Rising series. Shit was so cash.
No, but seriously. I didn't hate it even when it was just hunger games in space, but the author kinda grew as the series grew.
Good stuff.
Not that the series is perfect. What the fuck is up with the dropped plot threads (AI in the girl's brain, Quicksilver exiting, Sevro's, uh, stuff) in the newest book?
Not that those were directions I necessarily wanted the plot to take. What a mess.
My favorite parts were Darrow getting getting REALLY into larping as a Gold before shit hit the fan. + Everything relating to Atlas au Raa - Fear Knight's ruse.
Golds being supremely smug, even when it was earned, never stopped being entertaining.

Coincidentally picked up this series >>23366309 because I wanted more space opera.
On book 2 currently.
Man, this MC is meandering... I'm loving it.

Fun to see I happened to read two series that were being discussed in this thread. Been forever since I was here.

>>23368625
It's not edgy?

>started the black company based on thread recommendation
>think it's about a cool group of strong dudes that get shit done
>it's about a bunch of useless retards that just run away at the slightest hint of a problem
How did these fucks last 400 years. I seriously hope there will be at least one dude I can root for by the end of this.

>>23369301
Croaker is based and so are Goblin and One-Eye

>>23369301
That's how soldiers fight. Especially valuable ones. Think about how the greatest boxers of all time, Ali, Mayweather, used their reach and defense to cruise to victories. Meanwhile casuals will say out boxers "just run" because they think real combat is a video game where you mash punch button and win
A more appropriate example is the special forces operation to capture Saddam Hussein's sons. They (I believe 2 sons, 1 bodyguard and 1 child) were holed up in a mansion, and the force of a couple hundred special task force members couldnt get passed the rocket launcher and grenades. So ultimately they forego the mission and just bombed the shit out of the mansion.
The game of combat is just too unpredictable and you gotta count your losses.

The fact that they want to keep announcing new lord of the rings movies and treat it like a franchise to milk really depresses me to no end. There's no more reverence for anything. This whole industry needs to collapse.

>>23369440
The good news is two fold: The western games industry has already begun its collapse. Creative industries that can only corrupt and not create are nearing their end.

>>23369464
It still hurts to watch the kind of vandalism they do though

>>23369475
hard times will always hurt, anon.
But they make us stronger.
Focus on your own craft.

>>23369485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B6fjPwF-7I

>>23369347
>a doctor like every other doctor
>a midget nigga that loves money
Meh, we'll see about that.

>>23368659
Board is full of pseuds who majored in humanities.

>>23368659
The ending of third mistborn and ending of third 3 body problem are the only books that really made me feel shit for days.

>>23369556
Because they're so good or so bad?

>>23367916
Truth shines

>>23369560
They're good. You could say sanderson shit is cliche and easy to read, but from what I've read from him, the overarching theme and moral of the story hits you like a truck.

>>23368659
They aren't that good either. Just tired boring mass appeal factory line mediocrity. If they were bad they might at least be interesting.

>>23369597
I guess I'll finish the original trilogy. I stopped after 2 because everyone was stupid and half the novel was a twilight knockoff.

>>23368659
I can't say I really have anything against him besides the two most recent Stormlight novels needed a better and more forceful editor. In some ways I gotta give him a solid deal of respect because it was his work that got me back into reading regularly like i used to in school back in 2017-2018.

>>23366174
I'm a quarter of the way through. I like it a lot, especially the prose. the way the story is told is a bit confusing though. but still. I like this way more than Consider Fleas

>>23368716
From the faggot who wrote the review that anon is quoting:
http://starsbeetlesandfools.blogspot.com/2012/06/suggested-readings-in-fantasy.html

>>23368659
Popular = bad. /tv/ and /v/ are the exact same, full of miserable troglodytes.

>>23369738
Popular doesn't also mean good either.

>>23369760
anon never said it did, you donkey retard

>>23369128
yes.
>>23369656
I have read all the way up to and including inversions and I think consider phlebas is the weakest and maybe a bad starting point. I think it would turn people off from reading others honestly

>>23368659
>not that bad
not exactly high praise...

>>23369762
That was anon's underlying implication, baka. Normalfags always think popular = cannot be critiqued. And I'm not the guy you replied to.

>>23369782
oh the NPC ones do this all the time. I don't get it. I enjoy stuff, but I just state "maybe there's a reason it's well-regarded" and then ask around.

NPCfags get the rope.

Press X to doubt

>>23369914
I find the aliens more believable

They are the closest you can get to literary goyslop

>>23367912
Revelation Space is excellent, I reread it frequently

>>23368387
This guy sounds like a tremendous pseud, and probably gay and communist as well.

>>23369974
I enjoyed those. Were the perfect Dreyfus ones amy decent?

>>23367682
I just picked it up, almost done with the first book. It started out just alright, but I'm enjoying it more as I get further into it. Listening to the audiobook at work. Not gonna lie, it's basically impossible for me to keep all the names straight.

>>23369984
nta, I thought they were at least decent.
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=Dreyfus&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

>>23369974
convince me to read book two. i was incredibly dissapointed by the revelation being so generic and boring.
>oh dude its like... an ancient war! and we woke em up! woah!

>>23370145
Don't read book 2. Do and read what you want. Go lick a goat.

>>23370151
so its not any better?

>>23370155
I didn't read either but if you didn't care for the first why would even want to try the second. Read for your own amusement and think for yourself.

>>23370165
I didn't care for red rising but I lived golden son. The only reason I read golden son was because people told me the series gets better.

So when I've read only the first book in a series, and I see someone say the SERIES is good, why would I not ask to be convinced to continue reading?

Do you seriously not understand how that works?

Why do you feel the need to disparage the attempt at reconcilliation? Why do you find discussion to be distateful.

this website has ruined me. people actually engage in arguments here, everywhere else its tipoeing and passive aggression. cant say shit to people elsewhere without a tablespoon of sugar.

>>23370671
Everywhere else just feels watered down.

>>23370671
I try to talk on other sites like reddit or wherever and I'm just so sick of having to be nice. Like I'm not being MEAN, or at least I try not to be but you can't even so much as disagree with people these days.

give me something about AI cults
thanks

>>23368068
Well I read it. I actually like it so far. It does a good job of giving you hints of hope and humanity and brief interludes of characters to get attached to before ripping them away. I would call it less horror and more tragedy.

The comment section is fucking insufferable though. Either soulless litRPG freaks or people who think they are much more clever than they actually are.

>>23370738
the book im writing

>To be ingested by the military machine is to see the last hidden gear of the world. All is loud yet lonely, chaos yet order, functional yet dirty, fast yet slow.
>All is big. Except you.
>Without my name, I am no one. [ ] No. They don't even see me. Their eyes are focused two hours from now. I do not matter. I am chaff.

>How could they possibly imagine the anguish on the faces of the dead? How could the mob in the street demanding handouts ever know on a sensory level that when a human rots, it isn't just the skin that stinks, but the intestines, the stomach, the liver?
>How could they know that weird tremble of the soul when you realize there is no civilization? There's just a lock on a box. And inside the box is this. Virginia wanted me to reason with the senators. What common language would we speak, I wonder, when they have not seen inside the box and I am its lock?
My cock is fucking THROBBING reading this shit.

>>23370671
>people actually engage in arguments here
lmao
laughably ignorant and outright incorrect

What artefacts would you smuggle and trade between an urban fantasy and high fantasy world for profit?

>>23371195

>>23371209
weather satelites

>From tweet to three-book deal, this author wants to transform the fantasy genre

>LADARRION WILLIAMS: I just randomly tweeted. I was just like, yo, like, what if Harry Potter went to an HBC in the South?

>lock myself in my apartment for 12 days straight, living off of Oreos and Cheez-Its. And I wrote the first draft of "Blood At The Root," the novel.

>WILLIAMS: Now Hollywood is saying, hmm, hey, can we have a meeting? So I will say that a TV show is in the works

>>23371283
LADARRION

>>23371283
Sheeeeeeeeeeit.

>>23371283
>blood at the root
it has to be a joke

>>23371283
>>23371317
Somehow it's written exactly like I expected. (I'm a racist)

>>23371352
Fake LeBron casted expecto patronum, and the spirit of Lebron James flew out of his wand like it was goin' hard in the paint and straight up DUNKED the Dementor's whip right out of the sky before it completed the massa-crack

I'm bored. What are some good books that are accessible to read?

>>23371397
By accessible I mean easy to read with not too hard prose to parse through.

>>23371402
>>23371397

How was Yumi and the Nightmare Painter and The Sunlit Man by Sanderson?

There doesn't seem to be a recommendation chart in the mega for this: I'm looking for Science Fiction short story anthologies/collections, mostly from 1950-1975. I was never really into reading short stories, but when I read Heinlein I read the Green Hills collection; when I read Asimov I read the Nightfall and Other Stories collection; and now I'm about to read the first volume of Science Fiction Hall of Fame. Any /sffg/ would recommend? Science fantasy is okay, can be centered on one author or from different authors.

>>23371352
>nigger wizard (nigzard)
>uses magic to steal cars and sheeeit
like pottery

>>23371439
>>/lit/thread/22260820#p22262600

>>23371439
>>/lit/thread/22563519#p22563632

>>23368246
Calm down, sweetie. "Between Two Fires" is excellent.

>>23367040
someone recommended The city of dreaming books a few months ago, i tried it out despite being part of a series and i enjoyed it a lot. will add this one to the list too

>>23367500
Bump my request

>>23371209
Stuff that the other world doesn't have

>>23367500
I read The King Must Die a while ago and if you ignore the whole outdated Mother Goddess nonsense, I feel that it was quite immersive.

>>23371352
this shit is hilarious

>>23371283
Stay Blackgical, /sffg/

>>23371900
>Woman author
>White goddess nonsense
Feminist drivel

I think the tides are shifting, we're going to get heterosexual fiction again very soon

You can get anything you want if you write it yourself.

>>23372850
my perfect heterosexual book already exists.

>>23372850
>gigachad posters not being bots
lol

>obsessed with the magical girl genre
>extremely attracted to girls in bright frilly dresses
>yet always constantly don't feel like I belong because I'm a male and not a troon
> fantasize about self-inserting as either a Tuxedo Mask or Syaoran figure

What is this feeling?

>>23372904
you're a faggot, harry

>>23372904
You're turning into a magical boy.

>>23372904
I like Magical Girl Genre but I prefer something more realistic but when I read shit like Princess Holy Aura I feel like realistic might not be good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVpg0m31C4

>>23372904
Be a crossdresser.

>>23372904
>I am a man who watches shows with cute girls and self insert as the love interest. What is this feeling?
Um normal?

>>23372904

>>23371680
>>23371689
>>/lit/thread/22260820#p22263630

>>23372904

>>23364081
Should i start the 3 body trilogy or finish the mars trilogy first. I read the first, but never finished the second.
Mind you that the prior 2 books i read were about aliens (footfall and the invincible)

seeing fan art for the farseer trilogy, they portray the tanned, mediterranean-like islanders?? and made them look like niggers almost every time. your typical deviantart tier shit too, that style consistently drawn by autistic femcels. even despite the novel's official art showing that they are not.

Is there a book where H-Game style corruption (slowly becoming mentally warped and degenerate) is depicted?

Some of you niggas need to jerk off before posting

>>23373241
Some of you niggas need to not jerk off for days so you can think with sexual purity.

>>23373241
It's much more of a dickthrob I feel, it's a hearthrob.

>>23373241
I can multitask just fine thAAAAAnk you.

>>23373241
Who else on /trt/ here

>>23373254
this has always been low t cope. i stopped jerking off for 2 months and all it did waa make me pop stiffys like i waa 15 again.

>>23373279
I just jerk off a lot and still be horny in mind.
Of course, I get off best to written pornography, so...

>>23373241
The person who most needs to kill himself is you for posting that garbage tranime meme.

There's this amazing app for reading on android called comfort reader on fdroid. It makes reading books feel like watching movies since it automatically skips forward without needing to scroll or change page. I read plenty of books like this and it lists how many hours of reading is required to finish the book, and it breaks it down into a few sentence sized chunks and highlights each word until it reaches the end. I wish there was a desktop equivalent to it.

>>23373459
>t makes reading books feel like watching movies since it automatically skips forward without needing to scroll or change page.
That sounds idiotic.

>>23373459
Sounds very niche.

>>23373467
Well it makes it more fun for me and more engaging than manually reading it, and this way you don't skip over any text and even if its harder to read, makes things easier to break down. I wish this app got more attention.

>>23373459
so.. like auto mode in a visual novel?

>>23373459
Are you autistic by chance?

>>23371751
Nice, was planning on buying that one soon. Also, don't miss out on The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear, that one's awesome, too, and the first in the series.

>At work reading LoTR
>Friend/Coworker says he always wanted to read it but never got around to it
>Offer to lend copy
>He says thank you but asks if I mind as I'm reading it currently
>Laugh and tell him it's cool I can lend him my paper back version
>He asks me "You have two copies of the same book?"
>Laugh when he says "two."

>>23373840
I don't think any of this happened

>>23373979
What you believe is your business

>>23366654
Fucking brevity.

The longer a web serial continues the chances of it going on a pointless tangent the readers hate or the author regrets approaches 1

>>23374068
>approaches 1
...percent?

>>23374080
Probability is often expressed as a value between 0 and 1 because it represents the likelihood of an event occurring, with 0 indicating impossibility and 1 indicating certainty. This scale provides a standardized way to measure and compare probabilities across different events or scenarios.
Here are a few key reasons why this convention is used:

Consistency: By using a common scale, probabilities can be easily compared and combined. This is particularly useful when dealing with complex problems involving multiple events.
Axioms of probability: The rules governing probability, known as the axioms of probability, are based on the idea that probabilities lie between 0 and 1. These axioms provide a foundation for the mathematical study of probability.
Ease of interpretation: Expressing probability as a value between 0 and 1 makes it intuitive to understand. For example, an event with a probability of 0.75 is easily interpreted as having a 75% chance of occurring.
Connection to percentages: Probabilities can be easily converted to percentages by multiplying them by 100. This allows for a more familiar representation of likelihood, as percentages are widely used in everyday life.
Mathematical convenience: Many probability calculations, such as those involving probability distributions and conditional probabilities, are simplified when working with values between 0 and 1.

It's important to note that while probabilities are often expressed as decimals between 0 and 1, they can also be represented as fractions, ratios, or percentages, depending on the context and the audience

>>23374108
holy autism

>>23374147
its chatgpt

>>23374154
Is chatgpt on the autism spectrum?

>>23374160
No, ChatGPT is not on the autism spectrum because it is not a human and doesn't possess personal experiences, emotions, or consciousness. It's a machine learning model developed by OpenAI, designed to generate human-like text based on the input it receives and the patterns it has learned from vast amounts of data. While it can mimic conversation and provide helpful responses, it doesn't have personal attributes or experiences like being on the autism spectrum.

>>23374160
I mean it because just emulates the information it takes from everywhere else soooooooooo yes.

>>23374179
>doesn't possess personal experiences, emotions, or consciousness
>can mimic conversation
Sounds conclusive to me.

>>23374179
>it doesnt have personal attributes [ ] like being on the autism spectrum
the "assistant personality" exhibits various markers for autism

>However, they were enchanted by Varda such that, if anyone did not take them rightfully or if anything evil comes into contact, they would burn them upon their touch.

So if you somehow got a Simaril through legitimate exchange and dodged oathkeepers, you could actually weaponize a Silmaril into an Anti-Evil weapon?

>>23374179
Artificial autism is real to an artificial construct.

>>23374612
stop spamming this shit

>>23374612
I don't know what this is but it makes me furious

>>23374612
>Bugman making a literal bugman story
SEriously though don't buy the works of Chinamen.

The disappearance of RIfag and Bakkerfag would cause untold improvement toward this general; as much as a general can be improved during the current year on this social media website, that is.

>>23374894
What about Tenebroumfag?

>>23374900
What about him? A weeks-old ritualposter, who even tends to post his book and fuck off, is nothing compared to bitches spamming for over 4 years nonstop.

>>23374900
ive been trying to figure out what i should ritual post about. i used to dunepost, years and years ago. but i want something fresh.

>>23374910
A weeks-old ritualposter quickly becomes a months-old ritualposter. Never let evil take root.

>>23374925
Whatever you choose, I recommend incorporating mass replying into the ritual. A webnovel is a classic choice for a reason, maybe look for one that is particularly shit but still somewhat popular. Good luck, I'm looking forward to it!

>>23374942
Reverend insanity is one of the best webnovels what do you mean

>>23374950
Sorry, I didn't know, I can't read Mandarin.

This is super niche and kind of retarded, but do any of you bros know of a similar book to Jaihoo? I unironically I regard it as the most poignant and accurate vision of the future if current trends continue unperturbed.

>>23374942
Is he even ritualposting every thread? I'd rather have him than someone like gorilla AI list-of-recs-poster, or that litRPG /sffg/ suggestions underageb& (that I haven't seen for a thread or three, now that I think about it.)

>>23374982
qrd? that cover makes me think of this one schizo poster i know (who is employed by a defense contractor)

>>23374987
It’s a Sam Hyde/MDE book, definitely schizo but well worth reading and quite funny. It’s an ironical criticism of feminist multicultural society, globalism, and corporate capitalism. It’s more of a comedy book than anything, but there’s some genuinely brilliant ideas as well. You can find the pdf for free on internet archive, there’s also an audiobook read by Sam. The absurd illustrations were done by bicflame I think.

>>23374986
I agree that the ai-gorilla and the "/sffg/ recommendations" faggots are certainly worse (the latter of which I sincerely hope is gone for good), but all ritualposting is contemptible. The tenebroumfag has posted in the last dozen threads, which is more than enough for me to hate him.

I like the Culture series

How would you rank Moorcok's multiverse saga

>>23375063
nta
Have you ever considered that your suffering is of your own choosing? You don't have to be active in every thread. You don't have to read all the posts. You can filter what you don't like. You don't have to make /sffg/ your identity.

The generals you frequent end up owning you. I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom. It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. This is /sffg/ and it's ending one post at a time. On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for every general and poster drops to zero. Every thread archival I died, and every new thread I was born again, resurrected.

>>23375109
I am Jack’s autism disorder.

>>23375093
I don't and I'm happy you do.

Recently threads have been lasting longer than they have for several years. Which is better, daily threads or twice weekly threads? Would reducing it to weekly be better or worse?

>>23374894
The Bakkerposters are the best of /sffg/, insect.

Let’s talk about sorcerer’s salt. Is Chanv made from it? Do salted sorcs achieve Oblivion?

>>23375238
>plural
I wonder if Bakkerfag is a kike. It would explain his abhorrent personality and rampant unrestrained mental illness.

>>23375214
>Would reducing it to weekly be better or worse?
You know we make new threads whenever they reach the bump limit right
We don't just decide how often to make threads

>>23375272
Yes, we do. It's determined by the posting rate. If we collectively posted less often there would be new threads less often.

I don't understand Father Inire's mirrors. Light accelerates itself out of the universe? What does this have to do with the original object reflected?
Is this retardation or was I IQ filtered?

>>23375214
The lesser the better but the quality has not improved.

>>23375298
Differently bad in a better way.

>>23375292
I will post whenever I want and so should everyone else

>>23375303
We're all conformists in that we all do whatever we want because that's what we all do.

>>23375301
No the quality has only grown worse over time. Nobody said shit about "difference". Do not put words in my post.

>>23375360
Thank you for your contribution.

typical newfag empty response

>>23375297
both

What the best sci fiction that came out in the last 10 years?

>>23375484
I want to say house of suns, but apparently the current year is 2024.
So the answer is pricrel.

>>23375484
lmao

>>23375493
Wait what?

>>23375484
I've posted many that I've thought were great.

>>23375271
But Bakker is extremely antisemitic…

>>23375484
As much as I enjoyed reading through Red Rising and Sun Eater within the 6 months or so in my opinion I've got to give it to The Expanse, Persepolis Rising to be more specific.

>>23375501
anon asked for sci fi not sci cry

>>23375494
it's a funny question you asked.

>>23375507
For you.

>>23375507
Is it that bad?

>>23375409
I have so many questions about this book.

>>23375484
maybe blindsight?

>>23375512
dont listen to him, sci fi is better these last two decades than it ever was in the 1900s.

>>23375520
That's almost 20 years ago

>>23375521
these threads are grimmer than I thought

>>23375521
name some

Several of my all-time favorites have been published in recent years. The 21st century has been amazing for SFF. There's only more greatness to come so it's better to focus on the books currently being published than the same few books from the past.

>>23375484
pic and sequels, if you consider steampunk scifi.
it's a shame that his new (fantasy) series is off to a shitty start

>>23375523
oh i thought it were more recent lol

>>23375518
Not him, but I just finished shadow of the torturer and while it was good and I will continue reading the series I am also a bit confused

>>23375527
Annihilation
The Martian
Dark Matter
All Systems Red
Recursion
Gideon the Ninth
The Expanse series
The Water Knife
Children of Time
The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet
The City in the Middle of the Night
The Power
To Sleep in a Sea of Stars
Network Effect

>>23375530
why is this author using my name

>>23375547
>>23375518
check out these faggots on your second reread
https://www.alzabosoup.com/category/the-book-of-the-new-sun/

>>23375548
holy shit if you're baiting you got me good. I'm mad.

>>23375547
I'm re-reading. A lot starts making sense on a second read, but a lot more remain mysteries like the Mirrors technology I mentioned. It sounds like FTL travel but just then Wolfe introduces the Botanic Gardens which sound to me some form of alternative universe projector using the same technology.

>>23375563
Consider being baited less easily.

>>23375550
well, you have to read it now

>>23375563
>>23375569
i got the list from chatgpt, i had to edit out two entries, the original list was

The Three-Body Problem
Ready Player One
Annihilation
The Martian
Dark Matter
All Systems Red
Recursion
Gideon the Ninth
The Expanse series
The Water Knife
Children of Time
The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet
The City in the Middle of the Night
The Power
To Sleep in a Sea of Stars
Network Effect

>>23375491
Downloaded house of suns, let's see. Thanks for the recs

>>23367916
He spoke the truth..

>>23369614
>Just tired boring mass appeal factory line mediocrity.
What do you mean by that?

>>23375548
>Annihilation

>>23375836
tired boring mass appeal factory line mediocrity.

>>23375836
I mean exactly what I said.

>>23375855
better than the book series that's for sure. back when cosmic marvel was good

>>23375961
What a time that was. I miss it.

>>23375530
The first book is great, everything after that turns into absolute schlock

>>23376007
Where did the time go

Why does /sffg/ pretend RI is bad? Racism?

>>23376362
fuck off retard

>>23376339
Marvel peaked here