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Hello there /lit/.

I've been thinking about getting a Kindle when the paycheck arrives, I do however have a few questions I would like to ask to the Kindle owners out there.

>How is the library of books on it?

From what I've gathered you can just put any PDF on it if you choose. But have you found yourself missing some of the books you want to read? Many of the ones's i'm interested in can be a little uncommon(I really enjoy ancient academic texts and such).
Also about the store, I live in Sweden. Will it be like the usual thing where all the good stuff will only be available in America?

>Which version?

I'm thinking of getting a Touch if anything. I don't really need 3G since I have wireless.
What are the pros and cons?

>How does it compare to reading real books?

I really loath reading literature on an LCD screen. Does the Kindle screen really feel like reading a "real book"?

>And lastly, from a scale of 1-10, how would you rate your kindle(do you use it, do you like reading on it Etc.)

I would really appreciate some answers.

General discussion about the Kindle is also encouraged.

>> No.2791604

Dude, get a nook.

>> No.2791609

>>2791604
Oh my, didn't even know it existed.

How does it compare to the Kindle?
What makes it better?
How is the library?

>> No.2791620

>I live in Sweden. Will it be like the usual thing where all the good stuff will only be available in America?

Not sure if I know entirely what you mean by this, but here in Holland you can only buy books for your Kindle from Amazon.com, so you have the same selection as the yanks and you pay in dollars.

>> No.2791636

>>2791620
I hope that's so. I remember reading somewhere that not all books were available in all countries(most likely due to publishers and such guff).

>> No.2791657

>>2791636

It can be a little erratic, in truth. There have been a few times that Amazon has binned me out saying "not available in your country".

Apparently there's a scrabble game for the kindle that looks semi-cash, but the fucking spams are keeping it all to themselves.

>> No.2791661

Hey guys, I was thinking of getting a Kobo, since you can get them for hella cheap.

Anybody have one?

>> No.2791663
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2791663

>>2791609

>The nook candle handle .epubs, while a kindle is limited to .mobi
>Nook is better with .pdfs
>Has a glowlight that you can switch on to read in the dark
>Its cheaper than the kindle
>Its ergonomically contoured, so feels more comfortable after a few hours of reading
>you can root it to use your own browser and apps
>The screen refresh rate is faster
>The library is the same as you can buy from Amazon, Google Books and B&N, but...
>Microsoft have just paid $135 million for international rights so the native B&N library will be expanding
>Touch screen is more responsive

Basically the nook beats the kindle in every conceivable way. Pic related is the glowlight switched on.

>> No.2791667

I just bought a Kindle a couple of months ago. Been pretty satisfied with it. Going to try to answer some of your questions.

I don't recommend putting books as PDFs on your Kindle if you can help it. Better yet is finding them in .mobi format which the Kindle supports natively. If you can't, then there's software out there (Calibre, look it up) that can convert .epub files into .mobi files.

Also, using a Kindle for research/academic purposes is kind of iffy at the moment. There are search functions, but unless you're reading reference books cover-to-cover you're better off finding physical copies.

If you're planning on buying your eBooks from Amazon, then I don't think there should be a problem as most come preloaded with indices and reference tools.

I myself have the cheapest Kindle model. 3G isn't really necessary though I guess it might be convenient sometimes. Can't speak for the Touch, but it doesn't seem a bad way to go.

You shouldn't have a problem reading with the Kindle. It's much different than reading from an LCD.

I'd rate my Kindle 9/10. It's a really convenient and neat device. That said, I still enjoy getting my hands on physical books.

>> No.2791668

>>2791604

Can you even get them outside of America?

>> No.2791676

>>2791636

You can also put files in pdf and mobi formats on there as well, there's loads available for free on the internet.

>> No.2791679

I live in Norway, own a Kindle and I am very happy with it. I can find most books free online, but when I have to buy it's cheap and easy to buy it on Amazon. Especially if I'm traveling. The cover with the light is very useful.
I regret not getting the one with 3G for traveling.

I got the regular one. The touch is too small for me.

>> No.2791682

>>2791663
I've been reading up on it and it seems more like the way to go, for me atleast.

>>2791667
I really appreciate all the information.


>>2791668
Also this. The Kindle can be a little expensive here(at least if not imported).

>> No.2791684

>>2791663

The kindle handles touch more effectively than the nook.

>> No.2791686

>>2791667
Forgot one thing:

Do yourself a favor and install the Send-To-Kindle browser app (available for Chrome and probably other browsers as well). You can send web articles, Wikipedia entries, even forum posts directly to your Kindle by email.

You just have to do a minor set-up but it's invaluable for reading things on the go, if you don't have a smartphone or can't read from one. I like to combine it with the Pocket app that lets you save articles from your phone to read later.

>> No.2791688

Not OP but am also thinking about buying an e-reader when my paycheck arrives.
What is a good reader that has a screen that is bigger than 6", lets you use SD cards, has good UI and has a touch screen?

>> No.2791696

>>2791688

I believe only nook or kobo readers let you use SD cards. I'm iffy on their screen sizes, though.

>> No.2791701

>>2791668
>Can you even get them outside of America?
Yes, but there is a problem: Barnes and noble aren't licensed for international trade directly, so if you want a nook you need to buy from an online retailer. With regard to buying books you can still use google or amazon though.

As said here>>2791663
>Microsoft have just paid $135 million for international rights
So they should be available to buy soon from a store, but for now you either have to buy a nook online or a kindle in a store.
I have just ordered a nook and it is perfect, I made sure to order one that had a return policy and it cost me £99 with shipping.

>>2791696
I dont think kindle supports SD cards, I think both nook and kobo are expandable to 32gb.

>> No.2791707

>>2791701
I see. Will I still have access to the library to buy books?

Where do you even buy them from? Do they have their own store or do they kinda outsource it?

>> No.2791711

>>2791707
Yes, you can legally buy ebooks from both Amazon or Googlebooks. Or do what I did and amass a pirate collection of over 40,000 books.

>> No.2791718

>>2791599
anything that's on the net, you can convert onto your kindle through calibre.

i have touch, and have no complaints on its basic mechanism. if you don't mind pressing virtual inputs, you're good to go. plus there's only two buttons on the whole slate (big one bottom-mid) and screensaver one at the bottom side.

kindle convinced me that i won't have to buy paper unless for decorations or if it's virtually unobtainable. it's lightweight and backlight doesn't tire your eyes - just make sure that you have enough natural/artifical light in room when reading.

10/10, best purchase since wii. downside would be that it can't effectively read comics (unless some good touch hack comes out).

>> No.2791719

I'm not typing all of the stuff I did yesterday out again. Instead, here's the thread: >>2789673
If you have any other questions not addressed in the thread, feel free to ask.

>> No.2791720

>>2791719
Ah, thanks. I will read through it.

>> No.2791764
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2791764

>2012
>Taking it in the ass from Amazon
>buying ebooks

Get a nook, or, if you are into lcd screens, a generic android tablet.

You can get most books from from #bookz on irc.undernet.org.

>> No.2791793

>>2791764
I'm thinking of it. The only annoying thing is that they don't deal with international customers at all.

Anyone ever used PriceUSA?

Seems like a good way to acquire one.

>> No.2791797

But I can't even find a Nook on ebay. Where the hell do I get one?

>> No.2791802

>>2791797

One that I can get shipped to Europe, that is.

>> No.2791809

>>2791802

Nevermind, found it.

>> No.2791834

>>2791667

>Also, using a Kindle for research/academic purposes is kind of iffy at the moment

More than iffy, I think. I like my kindle, but there's absolutely no way I could do any serious academic work with it.

They're awesome for novels and throwaway stuff you'd never read twice anyway - great for travelling and vacations, and good if you want to pirate books off the internet.

In those situations they're great, but in paper books are better in others. They're a good thing to have, but not to replace your bookshelf or library.

>> No.2791833

I wish to thank you kind people for all the help. I'm of to bed now since I have work in the morning.

Good night.

>> No.2791857

Get a Kobo if you value your freedom.

>> No.2791864

>>2791857
can you use kindle files on it? Because I've been thinking about getting a kobo touch, but I have a kindle app already.

>> No.2791870

>>2791864
>I have a kindle app already
IT'S TOO LATE KILL YOURSELF

>> No.2791879

"The library" isn't a consideration when you're choosing a model of ereader, load your books onto the computer and you can convert to any format no problem, and most books you're likely to want to read will have been converted to digital format at some point. All new releases certainly are.

>> No.2791893

>>2791870
OH SHIIIIIIIIII-

>> No.2791937

I see these threads come up all the time but no one gives any definitive answers and a lot of important issues get ignored.

The most important thing to me is privacy. If I were to get a device, I definitely wouldn't want to activate it because I don't want anyone keeping track of what books I'm reading and tons of other minute details. However, this means that I won't be able to update the device's software and I won't be able to check out ebooks from my library if I ever wanted to. I'm fine with using my computer to download books to transfer to my ereader, but I'm just worried about what I would be missing if I don't activate the device or what would be found out about me if I were to quickly activate wifi.

So far, the Nook seems like the best bet because Amazon has remotely deleted books from devices in the past and they seem to keep track of every minute detail, such as how often you touch the screen or press a button. However, I've read that the Nook requires you to keep a credit card on file at all times and that the software becomes glitchy and unresponsive after a few weeks.

In the past few weeks, I've spent way too much money on ordering new books because they weren't available from my library. However, after checking #bookz, I found some really rare books that I want to read, including obscure publications from my college professors. I don't want to stare at a computer monitor while reading a 500 page pdf file, but I still don't feel secure with an ereader.

>> No.2791947

>>2791937
Nook requires you to make an account to use the device.

I bought a kobo, made a fake account to update the firmware, then did a factory reset to erase that account. Now I'm using a device with the latest firmware and no spying.

>> No.2791966

>>2791947
The basic Kobo is listed as having only about a week of battery life. One of my huge draws of devices like the Kindle or Nook is that they can last up to a month apparently. I don't want to feel tethered to an outlet. There's also the special offers bullshit from what I see, and there's actually very little information and few reviews about the device online.

The other thing I had in mind is the Sony Reader but it looks pretty clunky and slow. It seems like the screen has to refresh every page turn and I think that could end up pissing me off. I also thought about getting a Kindle and not turning on wifi, but it just seems like a really limited device compared to the Nook.

I haven't seen any mention of needing to register the Nook in order to use it but I guess I can go to Barnes and Noble tomorrow and check it out. If you only had to register it once, I wouldn't care too much. I would just make an account and then turn wifi off forever, only loading books onto it from my PC. Privacy is the most important issue to me but I also want a really good device with good hardware and software.

>> No.2791971

>>2791937
Nook does require an account and an on-file credit card. You never have to use it, it's just in case you do.
I have my account set up, but have never used my credit card, and instead just transfer pirated books from my computer.
They don't keep track of side-loaded content, but they do keep track of purchases from their estore.

>> No.2791974

>>2791966
>then turn wifi off forever, only loading books onto it from my PC
That's what I do, it works just fine.

>> No.2792095

>>2791966
These are not the best times to live in for someone who loves his privacy.

You almost sound like you actually have something to hide though.

>> No.2792107

>>2791971
So If I buy a nook online in a European country, I wont be able to activate it?

>> No.2792111

>>2792107
Correct. Buy a Kobo, it's the only choice if you value privacy.

>> No.2792112

>>2792107
Of course. You just go to bn.com and make an account, then log in to that account on your nook.
Or you can even create your account straight from your nook.
You have to turn on wifi to activate it, but then after that wifi isn't necessary at all.

>> No.2792125

>>2792107
You need to use a US proxy to activate it.

>> No.2792130

>>2792112
I'm not allowed a Barnes and Noble account. They don't have a licence for distribution outside of the US and Canada. It said I need a valid US registered credit card, which is why I cant buy a nook directly from them.

I was going to order one, but now it looks like this registration thing might be a problem.

>> No.2792135

>>2792130
Oh, really? I did not know that. Then again, I don't have any European people come in to the store to ask questions about the nook, so it never came up.
That's quite odd. I'll ask my manager about that when I go to work.
B&N really should open a store outside of the U.S., it'd be a good idea.

>> No.2792155

>>2792135
I wish they'd stop closing all the ones in the US. Lost Borders, then B+N that's within 15 minutes. Gotta drive 30 minutes to get to one now.

Love my simple touch though. Fucking great.

>> No.2792198

>>2791966

Kindles' battery life doesn't last a month, unless maybe you're using it a half-hour a day.

I find that mine needs recharging after a few days if I've been actually using it to read, and if I'm reading a .pdf, then the battery seems to deplete even more quickly. I've no idea why, but then again, I know nothing about computer shit, and I don't really want to.

>> No.2792352

Another vote for the Kobo, especially if you're outside the US. Sony readers are ok, but they have a poor track record with privacy.

>> No.2792359

>>2792357
also, i bought mine last summer so the battery's pretty good still

>> No.2792357

>>2792198
i'm not a heavy reader, mine lasts a couple weeks. i rarely read pdfs so that might be part of it.

>> No.2792471

bump

>> No.2793026

None of it matters - buy what you like.