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her eyes are mesmerising

Bump. I'm interested in lucid dreaming as well.

If you want to lucid dream just do a shitload of mkat (mephedrone). A few years ago when I was somewhat addicted I would have the most vivid lucid dreams. Sleep paralysis too.

>>3162942
Is it possible to talk about lucid dreaming without resorting to drugs?

I once tried to have a lucid dream but I had one dream where I thought I was conscious but it was no better than watching a movie of someone thinking they're conscious and later recognize yourself in the character and say "Oh yeah, I was conscious because this other person thought they were conscious, and this person is me, so I must have been".

From what I've read and practiced, lucid dreaming only takes place when you wake up and realize you were "conscious" the whole time. But are you really, or you're just dreaming that you are? That type of conscience doesn't really feel useful at all, that's why I stopped.

>>3162956
Well, the only way to reliably give yourself lucid dreams is to take the appropriate drugs. It's too difficult otherwise.

>>3162942
>hey guys if you like dreaming you'll love amphetamine psychosis

>>3163004
Typical short-cut accustomed mentality. It's not hard with a bit of practice. Just like you can k-hole while meditating perfectly sober if you just put in some effort. In the long run acquiring a skill is much more worthwhile than buying single use tools.

>>3162985
I've had what might be a similar experience. I attempted lucid dreaming once, when I was 17. On the advice of a friend who had been experimenting with it (he said successfully), I borrowed some of those "flashing LED glasses" that play patterns against your closed eyelids. (I thought those were pretty neat, and quite relaxing, as far as that goes.) I did a few other tricks that basically amounted to psyching myself up to remember to become conscious while dreaming.

Instead of having a lucid dream, I dreamed about lucid dreaming. I don't remember the details well now, but I had several layers of dream, where I woke up from one into another, and constantly thought "am I awake?", but unlike what I've read, that question in itself was not enough to wake me into dream-consciousness. The kickers was the last layer, where I woke up in my room, staring at the ceiling...and found that I could not move. This was frightening enough, but then I was suddenly aware that a malevolent presence was floating in the air above me, and the moment I sensed it, I knew that it sensed *me*, and it came down and smothered me. I couldn't breathe for probably a good ten seconds or so, when I finally woke up, for real.

> contd.

>>3163033
At the time I was convinced that I had dabbled with something dangerous, and while I wasn't religious, the sense of evil I had experienced was so overpowering, so certain, that I spent several days in fear of something supernatural. That faded over time, and I simply went on with my life—but I certainly never retried the experiment. It was years later that I heard about the phenomenon of "sleep paralysis", which perfectly explains what happened to me (and also apparently explains alien abduction experiences, etc.).

I don't mean to discourage you, OP. I've heard a lot of great things about lucid dreaming, and even if you repeated my experience, sleep paralysis is harmless, just unnerving (and I'm sure less so if you know about I beforehand). But I'll pass.

>>3162931
>her eyes are mesmerising
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I love girls with those hamster cheeks too.

B-bump

bumping for recommended (text)books and tutorials

>>3163349
Try here:

http://boards.420chan.org/dr/

For most of my life I have recalled very few of my dreams, usually only one or two a week, if any.
But a week ago I started writing them down after waking up, and now I remember at least 2 dreams per night.

I try to be as detailed as possible in my notes as to not miss anything potentially important. I've found that in dreams the emotions that you feel and details that you think are more important than the story and events taking place. The ''narrative'' of the dream is only an attempt to make sense of what is really happening in my subconscious, that is, for lack of a better word, feeling.

Some recurrent themes in my dreams so far are child sexual abuse (of myself and other children), fat people, anxiety, a kafkaesque feeling of dread and helplessness, a certain young girl I know in real life, the potential death of my dog, a strange feeling of guilt, pride/shame and what I can only define as victim-abuser relationships. In my dreams there always seems to be a victim and a wrongdoer of sorts, and I'm either one of them.
I think it's pretty clear what all of that means.

I hope to eventually be able to dream lucidly. I'm not sure I can explain why, but I feel that I'm close. My dreams are much clearer now and sometimes I come very close to being lucid, though I usually wake up not long after.

Bumpin'

>>3163035
I think it's really interesting that you brought up sleep paralysis - I've had sleep paralysis ever since I can remember and before I understood what was happening it was really terrifying.

The thing is, if you understand that you are experiencing sleep paralysis while it is happening and understand that it isn't really happening then it really is so bad. You just have to fight the urge to struggle out of the paralysis and resist your fear of the evil presence and you can actually use sleep paralysis as a way to enter lucid dreaming. Usually when I get sleep paralysis it is accompanied by these waves of buzzing that run through my body. What I do is sort of just let myself slip out of my body when one of these electrical waves comes along. The main thing is not to force it, but to just sort of let yourself slip out of your body - I always think about a snake shedding its skin.

Okay so, basically this is like what some dipshits call "out of body experience" which is a total crock, you don't really leave your body - If you pay attention when the sleep paralysis is happening you'll notice that the room around you isn't your real room it is just a reasonable facsimile that your mind has fabricated - you'll notice some details are off

>>3165264
Anyway you slip out of your body during sleep paralysis by not fearing and not resisting and then you fly out the window and have fun. Another tip is to rub your hands together when you feel the dream fading and pay attention to the sensation - this usually helps bring things back into focus - you could choose anything, rubbing my hands is just the one that I use. But don't try to cling to the dream - the more willful you are about things, the more quickly the dream will fade. Trust me, I used to fly around looking for chicks to fuck and that would always make the dream finish right away. The point is to be conscious but not willful. Anyway most of the time when I do wake up from a lucid dream, it is usually to sleep paralysis again so that I can start over.

So, the best way to induce sleep paralysis in my experience is to go to bed slightly thirsty and sleep on your back. I know it's not the most elegant method but whatever.