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Have you ever met someone who was obviously much smarter than you? You know, the kind of person who can talk about any subject at great length. If so, how did you interact with this person? Were you hostile or perhaps sycophantic towards them? Do you now feel you are smarter than them?

>> No.3191722

One of my high school teachers. He knew fucking EVERYTHING about history, and stuff beyond history. Every other teacher seemed like a joke compared to him.

>> No.3191729

Whenever I meet someone that's smarter than me I make up ways to think of myself as better than them in some other way.

>> No.3191737
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My first girlfriend got into the best school in the country
And I'm way behind...
Feels bad man

>> No.3191739

I had a teacher at Sixth Form who was like that. But rarely spoke to him as he intimidated me a bit: didn't want to come across as a fool or a suck-up even though I was both.

He had an undergraduate degree in English from Oxford and a postgraduate degree in Philosophy from Cambridge. Could discuss cinema, rock music, philosophy, medicine, classical musical, literature and sport with ease.

Only fault was he was a bit of a militant atheist but didn't berate students who were religious at least.

>> No.3191742

>>3191718

there's a guy online i talk to regularly. he's very intelligent, especially when it comes to the sciences and math (something i am awful at). he can be very condescending at times, and has a brash nature, but he can be interesting.

i'm not hostile towards him at all, i like him, i just make sure not to enter into an argument with him about anything, as his argumentative skills are immense.

do i feel smarter than him? no. a little wiser, at times, perhaps.

>> No.3191743

Anyone who can talk about any subject at great length is a jerk. Please feel free to quote me on that.

>> No.3191749

>>3191729

I've caught myself doing this before.

Most people on this board are young and intelligent, but struggling for intellectual approval in a lot of ways. Meeting someone vastly more developed as an intellectual can be a bruise to the ego (especially for people who much smarter then the majority of peers and usually soak up intellectual praise), but you've got to nip it in the bud. Thank god you had the strength to realize you had this problem (a deep-set insecurity about your intelligence), cause now, you can work towards fixing it and hopefully eliminate the stress and fear that alters your behaviour.

>> No.3191751

>>3191739

>he was a bit of a militant atheist
>didn't berate students who were religious

How was he militant then?

>> No.3191754

>>3191751

Although he didn't insult religious students (He can't legally anyway) he would constantly go on about the silliness of religion in general. So insulting towards it without it being directed towards anyone in particular.

Plus, he structured the curriculum towards a lot of criticism of religion: lot of focus on Nietzsche and Hume.

>> No.3191755

My ex girlfriend and best friend.
>>3191737
I too feel like I'm way behing her.
Also, I love her too much to feel hostility towards her, but obviously smarter people usually make me upset, I admit.

>> No.3191758

>>3191749
True. I was glad when I realised for this reason.

>> No.3191760

I always make sure to have contact with that person until I can suck their knowledge dry for myself
They being smarter only means I'll need to run faster for a bit until I get over them

>> No.3191766

While attending school, whenever I made discussion with classmates, I was almost invariably asked some variant of "Are you smart?" It was most awkward when phrased precisely as such. Generally I feel inadequate in all spheres of knowledge, even those of which I’m fairly learned. There is always another paper more advanced than the most complex i’ve read, another joke I cannot yet comprehend, etc.

>> No.3191767

I know this bookshop guy.
Keeps humiliating me,
Keep coming back.

>> No.3191769

>>3191755
But when it's your girlfriend you're glad she chose you over someone more of her level

>> No.3191772

>>3191769
either that or you feel you don't deserve her.

>> No.3191773

>>3191766
>that feel when our knowledge of old Sumer is so thin that you feel inadequate with so you end up learning their language to compensate

>> No.3191774

>>3191760
Yes, i do this all the time.

>> No.3191784

I tend to lead discussions with questions and relations, and try not to say anything more complex than the other persons. I get this terrible feeling I've made a mistake if I fail to accomplish this.

>> No.3191797

My MA involved a significant period of adjustment. Not only to no longer being one of the most switched-on students in the class, but also to realize that everyone has separate spheres of relative expertise, everyone is smart in different ways.

Everyone doing my MA, that is. Not in general.

It's been interesting having to confront my pathetic insecurities, especially toward people who weren't as much smarter as they were much better read. Great motivation to read more.

>> No.3191804

>>3191718
I had a math teacher who was a genius. He had a genius level IQ but he was also probably the most knowledgeable person I've ever met. A lot of kids hated him because he would rip on the assholes in the class but I always just thought he was funny. I think a lot of people didnt like him because he was pretty much better than everyone else he talked to. He was crazy smart, 6 foot tall and fit, good looking, not socially awkward in the slightest, rich (he apparently owned a bunch of property and only taught because he liked it), has a hot wife who was also smart, and he traveled all the time anytime we had a long weekend he would come back and tell us about what city he went to with his family. His class was one of the best I've ever had.

>> No.3191811

I was the typical know-it-all kid, then I turned 18 and many people treated me like, well an adult, talked to me about many subjects in great length. Damn they were all much smarter than me, but it just made me realize 'Well I can't ride on the coattails of my teen knowledge anymore!'

I am apparently very eloquent however, so I have that for me. I really need to get back into reading though, I used to read a book every two or three days, now I've been on the same one for a month. Feels bad.

>> No.3191815

This one girl in my AP Lit class. She's miles beyond anybody in the class, including me, in terms of comprehension of every aspect of literature. It honestly pisses me off when I can't get a word in during class discussions on a book because she's five steps ahead of me. She's really the only person to ever make me angry because of their intelligence, mainly because she actually clashed with me, called me out on stupid shit I've said, and taken words right out of my mouth.

>> No.3191847

>>3191811

I've found this too. I went to a particularly crap school and was treated as some Stephen Fry figure because I did well in classes and had a wide array of knowledge in science, arts and so forth.

However, when I got to university there were so many people the same level as me and plenty who were much smarter than I could ever hope to be.

Before I was smarmy and cocky but now I don't really care as much about how smart I come across as.

>> No.3191856

I've never someone more intelligent than me. And because of this I feel very alone.

>> No.3191866

>>3191856
I find that people who think they've never met someone more intelligent than themselves have actually never met someone with the same exact opinions as themselves.

>> No.3191867

>>3191856
met*

>> No.3191876

/fit/izen interested in reading here for the first time. You are all perhaps the most delusional and pretentious faggots I have ever seen. This is even worse than /sci/.
Do yourselves a favour and familiarize yourselves with the Dunning-Kruger effect.

>> No.3191882

>>3191876
I'm well read, fall into top 2% of population in a real IQ test and my visual and 3Dspace abilities are the best doctor testing me ever saw. What now?

>> No.3191884

>>3191882
>3Dspace
I mean spatial

>> No.3191885

>>3191866
That is true but I still have never met someone who could impress me by his intelligence. I have an incredible lucidity.

And for example, when I learn pholosophy(France) it's like they are repeating what I though when I was 12 or what I can think in a second.

>> No.3191890

>>3191882
What constitutes being "well-read"? Have you read the entirety of the Western canon?

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>>3191718
whenever I find a woman who's smarter than me, I usually end up flirting like crazy.
when it comes to guys, I just crank up the charm to counteract the intelligence gap.

>> No.3191900

>>3191882
>top 2 percent
>thinking that is impressive
>seeking approval on an internet imageboard

>> No.3191911

>>3191890
I'd say that means I've gone through all major philosophers since old greece, one by one. I've been through every mythology since Sumer to this day and read most big works of religion. And now I'm exploring less known 20th century writers.

>>3191900
If you look at post I responded to, you'd see that he was calling us dumb. This isn't boasting, but a response on "an internet imageboard"

>> No.3191926

>>3191911
Which less known 20th century writers? You should start making some threads on them. We need more discussion on lesser known works here.

>> No.3191928

>>3191911
Now, excuse me, for I won't be able to respond to the next insult. I'm on my way to a lecture in astronomy

>> No.3191946

>>3191718
Yeah, of course.(And this is for people who are light-years smarter) What I always find best when talking to someone like this is to just ask and listen. Might as well learn, they are probably well aware they are much smarter then you. And do it sternly and make eye to eye contact because 1.They will know you are listening and are serious. 2. If they have social fears, you'll look stronger when they keep looking away. You might learn something and you aren't looked down upon for saying really stupid shit.

If they are just generally smarter then you, just think horizontally. If the subject is cheese for example, don't say "I like X brand brie", expand on it beyond that. Explain the sweet buttery smell of the X brand brie. The sweet, creamy, and earthy tastes of X brie. If it's specific topics like The Theory of Relativity, and you don't know shit about it, revert back to asking questions. Try to work in topics you know a ton about that they probably don't, so you can sparkle a bit.

>> No.3192054

>>3191718
many of my professors. I tried to soak up as much of what they had to say as I could, briefly worshipped most of them like gods. And I may be catching up as far as intelligence goes because of my education, but I don't believe I'll ever be "smarter", as they're gaining more knowledge as well.

>> No.3192062

>>3191718
i met someone like this once, monsieur. i could tell immediately that i was in the prescence of a great intellect by the noble way he picked at the dirt under his fingernails, and how he consented only to talk about subjects about which he knew a great deal, or always steered the conversation in that direction, with gently condescending words of rebuke whenever something unfamiliar to him was broached, as if all was trivial that fell without the circumference of his ingenuous being.

>> No.3192065

>>3192062
ah, but i have forgot the most ingenuous thing of all, monsieur. and that is how he would greet every word i spoke with an ingenuous combination of prepared phrases, that he nimbly manipulated to fit the circumstances of the present. sometimes, when his vanity was distracted, he was even capable of uttering a few original words, which, like sparks, may have set my mind ablaze, if there was fuel and knowledge enough in my pea-sized brain for such ingenuous conflagrations.

>> No.3192076

>>3192054
>>3192062
>>3192065
all of these. perfectly laid out my potential post for me.

>> No.3192086

>>3192062
Wait, you know Dave too?

>> No.3192090

>Have you ever met someone who was obviously much smarter than you? You know, the kind of person who can talk about any subject at great length.

I don't see how that's a good gauge of someone's smartness. That's a good gauge of how well-read a person is. I mean, you need to have some intelligence to put complex thoughts about a matter together but you don't need to be exceptionally smart to know a lot.

>> No.3192092

>>3191876
This

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>>3191876

>> No.3192137

>>3191718
>>3191718
Met this guy online, first impression was that he was pretty stupid but after talking a while there are traces of intelligence. We became friends and as we keep talking his knowledge in art, music, math, literature, you name itit became apparent. He is nice and and tolerable to ignorance. As wewe keep talking his more radical strikes me as brilliant and revolutionary. The guy is always on top on current trends. He seems to have to an ability to predict the future, two weeks ago he told that the net will be going down in syria. And today it did. He is quite handsome but some what a drunk. I've also realized that this guy play stupid because he knows that his intelligence scares other away. Quite sad. I've never met someone who thinks like him.

>> No.3192145

i take note and hang out with them again.
im a terrible introvert because people are retards.
but when i find someone who isnt, i call them friend.

>> No.3192151

>>3191885
That's not being intelligent that's being delusional. Go try any intellectual activity that you can actually have a somewhat objective understanding of your ability. Go play someone in chess or do some difficult math.

>> No.3192152

>>3191885

That is a lie.

>> No.3192158

Conversely I have met the opposite. A person of average intelligence who pretends to have all the answers. Tries to blind me with terribly constructed sentences designed precisely to obfuscate what he is actually saying. I told him I was writing a novel, he met that with approval, told me he was writing his own. About sci fi or robots or some shit. I told him I wanted to write a bestseller without any care for its content, just to make money. He told me he knew well how to do this but it was "beneath him", then refused to expand on the supposed secret to success that he was privy to.

>> No.3192164

>>3192158
what a converse experience, monsieur!

>> No.3192167

>>3192164
No doubting my friend. Also he's always trying to convert me to Islam and somewhat annoyingly always says that "he knows I'll turn over one day" as if he's so intelligent that he can be certain I'll convert. I never will.

>> No.3192168

>>3192158
>I told him I wanted to write a bestseller without any care for its content
I somehow respect and despise you for that statement.

>> No.3192169

>>3192168
I lost my attachment to the artistic values of art and the morality of not exploiting them for money long ago I'm afraid.. I know it's dark, dirty and downright despicable but I want to do it. For some sense of self worth.

>> No.3192171

>>3191892
Something similar here, althought I dont know how it feels when somebody is much smarter overall. Maybe I am just too conceded to admit somebody as completely superiour (being best in the class for years in different schools without trying does that) or maybe I just never met somebody who is. I am impressed enough if people are on same level and take something from the "alone with idiots"-feel. Though when I was younger I was the jellyfag who looked for the flaws of the people who seemed similary smart, now I am just glad to have somebody to talk to without cringing.

>> No.3192172

>>3191718
I feel that everyone that was at college with me were smarter than me. And that's cool, because honestly. Who gives a fuck about smarts.

I'm fat stackin' benjis, you know what I'm sayin'? I can't be all about, like, spelling and shit.

>> No.3192173

>>3192167
ah, you will, monsieur. it is inevitable. we should not be afraid of recognising true genius when you meet it, but should bend the knee reverently, as if it were a pleasure, and it can be! oh, it can be!

>> No.3192174

>>3192172
ah, that is cool, monsieur. and you know what else is cool? everything.

>> No.3192176

>>3192173
It will never be a pleasure. It's an irritant to see someone so blatantly try to act above their intelligence.

>> No.3192179

>>3192176
what a strange thing to say. i wonder how you fare with the ladies with an attitude like that, monsieur!

>> No.3192186

>>3192179
Very badly. I don't know why me being annoyed at my friend pretending to be smart is conducive to me being shite with women though.

I could do well.. if I tried.. if I had any confidence in anything I do.. muh freedom..

>> No.3192194

>>3192186
you see what a superior mind like mine sees between one thing and another and divines their relationship and how i predicted all this with inimitable sagacity, monsieur.

>> No.3192207

Beware of those who wear their intelligence like a badge.

Even worse are people who are aggressively humble about it.

>> No.3192209

>>3192194
Can you make a sagacious insight on how to get me laid? Then I wouldn't have to pervert art to make money.

>>3192207
What is aggressive humbleness and how is it worse than being a pompous jackass?

>> No.3192216

Never met such a person

>> No.3192220

>>3192209
>how is it worse than being a pompous jackass?

Have you never met one of these?
'Oh I'm not all that great but listen to my 2 hour speech about what I accomplished while not even trying blahblah because really I'm not special'

I take the pompous jackass over the insincere manipulator any time. At least they're open about it.

>> No.3192221

>>3192216
arrogance!!! arrogance!!! stop!!!!

>> No.3192222

>>3192171
>pretends to be intelligent and uses the word "conceded" instead of conceited
you, monsieur, are a rocket scientist.

>> No.3192223

>>3191755
She likes you for a reason. Try to find what's that.

Asking her doesn't count.

>> No.3192225

>>3192220
Hmm. I wonder if it really bothers you more. I know that is an insincere trait but I really can't stand anyone who thinks they are Gods gift to intelligentsia.

>> No.3192230

>>3192207
>Beware of those who wear their intelligence like a badge.Even worse are people who are aggressively humble about it.

I'm not sure I agree with that second thought. How is it worse?

>> No.3192232

>>3191804
Damn, that's sounds like a movie.

Maybe one day you open the newspaper and he raped and murdered a black family in the suburs.

>> No.3192240

>>3191876
I agree with this and I'm a board regular. The egotism on here is actually sickening.

>> No.3192241

>>3192151
I have a big lack of confidence too..

>> No.3192242

>>3192225
A good friend of mine sports a towering god complex and he will rub it in your face after knowing you for about 10 minutes.

So it seems I have a high tolerance for this kind of character. It's almost entertaining.

That said he's a fast thinker and able to convince most people that he's actually that great and that's a feat on its own.

>> No.3192244

>>3192230
see
>>3192220

>> No.3192249

>>3192171
>claims to be smart
>can't spell superior

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My friend`s sister is like that. I was kind of taken aback, so I didn`t really talk to her all that much. She was really cute, if I remember correctly.

>> No.3192256

>>3192222
>>3192249
Because spelling in your third language displays intelligence. Tell me more please.

>> No.3192257

>>3191718
>Have you ever met someone who was obviously much smarter than you?
Nope. More knowledgable about a certain subject, sure. But I've always found the brightest people I've met to be on my level, never felt quite inferior. Might be my narcissistic strak though. When I meet people really worth talking to I go full manic and try to keep on talking for days on end.

>> No.3192258

I was at first hostile, then later sycophantic when I realized that he & his bona fides put me & mine to shame. The sycophantic nature was to compensate for the earlier hostility, and then later we became friends and I just acted normal. I wanted to learn from him, and learn from him I did. It helps if it's someone a bit older and socially a LOT better adjusted. I learned how to apply book-learning to my advantage in social situations, without coming across as pretentious.

>> No.3192273

>>3192258
>i learned how to apply book-learning to my advantage in social situations

teach us

>> No.3192278

>>3192256
what are your first two?

>> No.3192280

>>3192258 - clarification
I mean, since I am extremely geeky, I would find it virtually impossible not to come across as "conspicuously intellectual," and as I perceived that such behavior isn't widely appreciated, I never found how I could act like my own geeky self and still get along with people. I found out how I could just be myself without having to overthink how others would react. Geekiness, as it turns out, goes across pretty well a lot of the time. And if some people don't appreciate my personality, why bother (unless I have political aims)?

I probably owe a lot to television's ongoing glorification of geekiness, too.

>> No.3192282

I can't think of anyone I've met who I considered smarter than me. I have met plenty of people with different natural aptitudes - I cannot compell myself to take an interest in maths or science, but it comes very naturally to many people I've met. Most of them were pretty deficient in all other areas of knowledge though.

I have met one well-rounded guy who was knew about as much as I do about the same subjects but also about sports and without my math/science block. Don't know if I'd call him smarter, we seemed to be at about te same level, he just wasnt as lazy as me. I also know someone I met through the chans who is perhaps smarter than me over all but has far more hang ups about knowledge, so the difference kind of balances out. In general, I'm used to going way over the heads of the average public schooler and therefore try to gauge what they know in as non-condescending a manner as possible before bringing up a more esoteric subject.

Many people will simply dislike you for bringing up history, literature or philosophy in day to day life when they'd rather discuss SEC rankings and reality tv shows, although ill admit that someone's people surprise me with the deeper interests they hide from others, probably for the same reason I do.

I've also come to suspect that my binge-drinking and use of mild drugs since I've come to pledge may be reducing my IQ. And the numerous concussions from playing rugby can't have helped.

>> No.3192284

>>3192278
Russian and German, none of them are really a mother language at this point.

>> No.3192293

>>3192282

Auto-correct on my phone butchered that post, someone's=sometimes, pledge=college. You should be able to figure out the other typos.

>> No.3192295

>>3192273
I just try to focus on other people in conversation, not myself. Sometimes as they describe themselves, I recapitulate their problems in verbose, geeky, overly dramatic language, for laughs. If you happen to know any parallel between what they're experiencing and [historical/literary trivia], bring it up.

>> No.3192301

>>3191815
descartes.jpg

>> No.3192303

>>3191739
why was he teaching teenagers?

>> No.3192305

Ask questions and listen.

>> No.3192307

>>3191815
that sounds incredibly hot

>> No.3192309

>>3191718
never happened to me

i have a 350 iq

>> No.3192316

>>3192282
>And the numerous concussions from playing rugby can't have helped.

I know that feel - I got lost on the way to my best friend's house the other day. I meet more an more people who are smarter than me after every head trauma.

>> No.3192320

>>3192151
>chess
>intellectually stimulating
Are you serious?

>> No.3192328

>>3192303
>postgraduate degree in philosophy

>> No.3192331

>>3192307
That's what I said: >>3192301

>> No.3192336

>>3192320
>implying the outcome of a chess game has nothing to do with the intelligence levels of the players

>> No.3192345

>>3192336

It doesn't really - computers like Deep Blue school all comers, but they're not intelligent.

>> No.3192357

My girlfriend is going to be attending an Ivy, and she's smart, but she's not... she's not smart smart. She had a high gpa, high test scores, all of that, but she has absolutely no interest in arts, politics, music, you name it. She 'likes' literature but she hates talking about. She gets pissed when I try talking about Dostoevsky or philosophy, she gets sincerely angry / passive aggressive. So while she shows all the written signs of being very intelligence, she doesn't really care about anything outside of the tests. Fff. She doesn't even listen to music for pleasure, she only knows what is on the radio.

>>3192328
From Cambridge... He could easily get a job across the pond. Well, that is, if he actually had a good dissertation.

>>3192336
Those who play chess competitively have been playing since the age of six. They have vast amounts of moves memorized.
It's less about intelligence as it is about playing it every day since a young age. After that, sure, intelligence is important, but a halfwit would beat a genius if the halfwit was experienced. In greenwich village I played a chess game against a homeless haitian. He was running circles around me. I don't it a viable way of analyzing intelligence, do you?

>> No.3192361

My wife is significantly smarter than I, or any other woman Ive met. She has never gotten below an A- in any class in graduate school, graduated in every possible honors society in the top 5% of her class, knows every organ and part of the body in latin and can recall them conversationally. She is chief resident in her hospital for her specialty, and all the genius doctors defer to her. She has been published multiple times and cheerfully wipes the floor with every standardized test she takes. Her brother is of an equal genius, graduating so early from the naval academy that the navy put him through a doctoral program at an ivy in experimental physics and bio physics at no cost. All I can say is that I read a lot.

>> No.3192375

I know one guy who is the single most charismatic and manipulative person I have ever met. he is a dashing homosexual who works in aerospace, and who becomes instant friends with anyone he encounters. He is like a chameleon, morphing and changing depending on the person he is holding discourses with. I once saw him secure a 300k dollar loan for our company based on a cheerful conversation with a bank manager. If he isnt familiar with what is being spoken of, he is able to bluff his way through it, thus he knows everything about everything. He got several promotions based on bald faced lies told with incredible sincerity regarding skills he did not have. If multiple-intelligence theory is real, is probably the most intelligent person re: interpersonal skills I have ever seen.

>> No.3192378

So, where do I meet smart people?
Going to college next year, where do all the smart people hang out?

>> No.3192387

>>3192378
Mac Store/Starbucks

>> No.3192388

>>3192378

Good colleges. So you probably won't meet any.

>> No.3192389

My mom works at a preschool and has told me about this five year old kid who spends his days memorizing street maps and reading. He taught himself to read and knows literally every street in the surrounding towns and the city, how they're connected, any if any prominent buildings or parks are nearby. Maybe he'll be a genius when he's older?

>> No.3192393

>>3192389

That or he'll be the biggest autist ever to grace /trv/ at the age of 15.


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>> No.3192394

>>3192357
Why should a smart person have interest in all that? Its such a cliche. You can be smart if your biggest hobby is watching porn too. Altough I have a hard time imagining why she wouldnt want to discuss the stuff...maybe it got something to do with you anon.

>> No.3192401

>>3192388
College? Oh please, I doubt there will be a decent amount of smart people before uni.

>> No.3192402

>>3191754
>Plus, he structured the curriculum towards a lot of criticism of religion: lot of focus on Nietzsche and Hume.
Hold up.

>> No.3192410

>>3192394
A person living in a society should at least have a nudging interest in politics, given it affects everything.
Hey, who is the smartest fictional character?

>> No.3192411

>>3192410
It's a tie between Mary Sue and Gary Stu.

>> No.3192416

>>3192410
Randle McMurphy

>> No.3192417

>>3192410
Artemis Fowl

>> No.3192418

>>3192410
Dagny Taggart, of course

>> No.3192419

>>3192410
Ender Wiggin or Ignatius J. Reilly

>> No.3192423

Personally I've felt it as a hit sometimes. I reckon I'm not the smartest person out there, nor am I the smartest in my class - But it still bruises your ego for a while.
Sometimes I get a little angry - mainly 'cause it seems like the person often seems to refuse to have a normal conversation and instead just wishes to show of their massive knowledge on the subject and hand, and their flawless calculating logic. It could be because I feel like a lesser man when it happens, or because I just find them to be a bit (in our days language) "cuntish".

>> No.3192424

>>3192410
The significance of a single voter is so frustrating small, that there is hardly a point being overly interested in politics. The biggest merit seems to come from discussions you can have with others but if she doesnt want to discuss books, I doubt she´s interrested in discussing politics either. Its kinda weird but not necessary something that makes her not "smart smart"

>> No.3192426
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Amadeus isnt a bad movie concerning this theme.

>> No.3192427

>>3191892
This guy is also a pretty good representation of how I tend to act.

>> No.3192428

>Have you ever met someone who was obviously much smarter than you?
I only know that I know nothing. So yes and no.

>> No.3192429

>>3192426
agreed. nice connection

>> No.3192430

ITT: loosers wishing they were INTJ master race

>> No.3192431

>>3192424
IMHO, those are the sings that signify intelligence.
It's strikingly easy to do well in school when you have no interests, hobbies, et cetera. if you have no interests, what is even the point of going to higher education?
We're not training robots here.

>> No.3192433

I can honestly say that I've never had a long, thorough conversation with someone I consider more intelligent than myself.

I dominate every single conversation I have -- with far more relevant knowledge on hand, and a far better ability to articulate my points.

>> No.3192435

>>3192433
It'll change when you go to college my friend.

>> No.3192439

>>3192433
>I dominate every single conversation I have
So you know dick about having a good conversation then?

>> No.3192440

>>3192435
So she's not smart smart now, but will become so when she goes to college. Okay.

>> No.3192442

>>3192440
Who the fuck is she?

>> No.3192443

>>3192433
Sometimes I feel this way, but then I realize that the reason I dominate conversations is that no one gives a shit about literature or fine cinema in my family and social group, and that they may perceive me as a blowhard. My father is a construction worker, and if building pools=reading books he is the smartest guy ever. But he doesnt walk into a room and throw down mad pool building terminology to dominate a conversation.

TLDR, watch your powerlevel.

>> No.3192444

>>3192345
That's not really a fair analogy. If a human had the type of computational power that one of those machines had they would be considered geniuses.
>>3192357
My post was meant to be more casual than it is being read. My point was he should experience some activities that require thought just to realize that there are people that are more intelligent in a lot of ways. My bad.

>> No.3192446

>>3192442
The cat's mother.

>> No.3192447

>>3192446
You are judging your intelligence based on conversations with a cat?

>> No.3192448

>>3192446
What are you on about you knobjockey?

>> No.3192449

>>3192431
Hm, she sounds like a girl I had in my class but since I didnt know her so well, I always imagined that there is more to a person than studying, writing decent marks and maybe reading. So your GF is basically the type who does all the learning for school > uni > work and not herself? Meh, sounds boring, there must be more.

>> No.3192451

>>3192433
That just means you are annoying as fuck and no one wants to deal with your shit. Also, being a better conversationalist/debtor doesn't necessarily mean you are smarter.

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>>3192447
>>3192448

>> No.3192453

>>3192444
You realize that the problem is that all the machines can do is chess. Being almost perfect at one thing but ignoring all others hardly works for a human.

>> No.3192455

>>3192452
it was a shite joke

>> No.3192456

only once have i seen someone in my age range who's intelligence really made an impression. it was in one of my more advanced classes. they just breezed through it and then one day disappeared from the college with no warning or explanation. their seat was just empty every day following till the year's end. i have no idea what was going on with them.
i didn't interact with them at all, just sort of was absently fascinated on their in-class conversations with the teachers. they didn't interact with anyone outside of the curriculum.
i've met many many people who put up a front of intelligence. i take an automatic, deep dislike to these, though i try not to. this unassuming person was the only one who's incredible mindedness just seemed to be a comfortable part of their skin, not a mask. again, i just left them alone, respected them from the other side of the glass.

>> No.3192459

>>3192455
No need for tears just cuz I'm dominating this doncersation.

>> No.3192465

>>3192453
Yes that's exactly why I said that that's not really a fair analogy. While I admit it is possible for a person to be extremely talented in one specific area (even when this is true its not to the same degree as with a computer) it is rare and when considering people it is natural to assume that the guy who can do complex math in his head can also read.

>> No.3192521

>>3192240
i agree too, monsieur. the egotism on this board! it's incredible!

>>3192230
hm. i am not sure if i, yes i, the great "i", agree with your disagreement, monsieur. for i regard it as being rather unhumble, even bold, to disagree at all with anyone for whatever reason, when men are all fools and no one knows any better than the next -- you see, i am a wise philosopher, monsieur, and i am not sure that i can accept your not being sure whether you agree with the second question.

>> No.3192549

>>3192521
>>3192537
>>3192534
>>3192528
>monsieur
>unable to capitalise
We got a faggot on the loose again.

>> No.3192566

>>3192549
a faggot, monsieur? that is below the belt!!! are you trying to get a rise out of me? well you got it!!! if it were up to me, i would say something very impolite to your face and with none too friendly an expression on my face!!!! ha! ha! ha!

>> No.3192577

>>3192566

Yeah, this is definitely getting boring now. "Funny" for five minutes I guess.

>> No.3192582

>>3192577
and if it is not funny, monsieur, is it boring?

>> No.3192588

>>3192582
yes

>> No.3192593

>>3192588
i am a philosopher, monsieur. i do as i please.

>> No.3192602

>>3192582

Not necessarily, but this is not funny and also boring.

>> No.3192603

>>3192588
and if it is boring, monsieur, then... then... ah, let that be so. i am prepared for that, don't you think i am prepared to bore? i really hate you. everything you say and don't say is an insult to me, monsieur. you have never had any respect for me. and i don't expect any. i live off my own fat, and there's plenty of that.

>> No.3192609

>>3192602
is that the end of your "critique", monsieur? may i get on with calling everyone a monsieur now, or do you have more to say, you impudent varlet? i am a professional 4chan poster and i don't have time for lengthy apologies.

>> No.3192614

>>3192609
Why do you type like that? You are well spoken but there is no need to include monsieur in all of your posts when you are clearly not French.

>> No.3192621

>>3192357
>homeless guy beats you
>DOESN'T COUNT, I'M TELLING MOM

>> No.3192624

>>3192614
He thinks he's funny and lacks the self-awareness to realise what a fool he's making out of himself.

>> No.3192625

>>3192614
I'm guessing brain problems.

>> No.3192627

>>3192603
stop calling everyone monsier, you dumb fucker

>> No.3192641

>>3192389
Isn't that what Rockefeller or some other turn-of-the-century monopoly guy did? Memorize street names for his paper route?

>> No.3192647

I know a couple of guys who are pretty smart, and know a lot of facts and can talk about basically anything. We got along really well and stayed in touch.

>> No.3192653

>>3192647

cool story bro

>> No.3192658

>>3192614
what does need have to do with me, monsieur?

>>3192624
please, messieurs, pay no attention to this vicious liar, who does not know how much the world owes to fools.

>> No.3192667

>>3192658
It has everything to do with you because it is a direct question to you regarding, err, you.

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>>3191718


No.

>> No.3192693

>>3192667
allow me to quote the bard, who is an authority on irrational dogmas and illnesses of opinion 'O reason not the need!'

yes, monsieur. i trust you are familiar with this learned work, Rex Lear, and the name too, shakespeare, which is a very bright name in England, bonjour.

>> No.3192714

>>3192240

I also agree with this and it confused the fuck out of me when i first started using this board. Originally, i mistook the group (a concentration of fairly intellectual individuals) as smart people discussing and debating their common interest in literature, philosophy, et cetera....

Then I realized that almost every person posting on this board have severe insecurities about their intellect. It saddens me actually. People here are deluded and butthurt about not being prodigies, reading this thread just reinforced that idea.

You've got to remember that you are alone in this world, a unique individual. All this bullshit about how others perceives you just puts stress in your lives..the same stress that causes you to act ridiculous at times.

>>3191749
Like this guy said, recognizing a fault within you is the first step to fixing the problem. Imagine how you would feel if you didnt care what others thought of you, and you never had the need to compare yourself to others. you'd be free to do whatever you want! imagine the freedom.

/lit/ is basically anorexic. you are unsatisfied with your self, youre afraid of people thinking your stupid, and the "ideal goal" that you chase (being genius, intelligent then everyone around you) is unattainable and unrealistic.

what im getting at is: a truly intelligent person doesnt care what his classmates think, what the teacher thinks, or the grade he gets... he just cares about learning/getting the truth.

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>>3192714

>over-generalizations
>projecting
>slippery-slope
>false dichotomy
>psychoanalysis

lol okay there bud

>> No.3192725

>>3192714
>look at all these egotistic and insecure people!
>let me tell them how much smarter i am

>> No.3192731

Muhammed Ali was like that...

>> No.3192740

>>3192714
monsieur, i am afraid people think i am stupid. how do i overcome this fear, this vanity which crouches over the portal of my being like a vile incubus, threatening to rape me to the quick? i almost succumb some days, but then i remember the sage advice of "some guy" and i recall "like what he said", and my spirit is soothed, my heart throbs itself to an even keel, and i remember what it feels like to lie in a bed of grass and run my youthful hands through the firm blades.

>> No.3192741

>>3192731

and he raped a bitch.

>> No.3192742

>>3192740
Its nice writing but I get the feeling you are a creative teenager reading Macbeth.

>> No.3192745

>>3192740

>incorrect usage of incubus
>sage advice
>i i i i i i i
>run-on

>> No.3192749

>>3192742
you have quite the imagination, monsieur. how do the ladies respond to it?

>> No.3192751

>>3192745
thank you for the highlight reel, monsieur.

>> No.3192752

>>3192749

in a very cold and judging manner.

>> No.3192753

I befriend these people if possible and usually end up learning a lot from them. Last year I had a roommate who ended up getting a job with Google so I assume he was very brilliant, but I was never able to say more than simple greetings to him as he was always working in his room or at the University. This made me feel bad as I started to think that he just assumed that the rest of our roommates and I were unintelligent or unworthy of his time.

>> No.3192754

>>3192742
macbeth is not at all what is going on there, i would guess that Confederacy of Dunces is maybe one touchstone and there's a couple others that i can't quite put my finger on, familiar but not coming to mind

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>>3192151
>implying chess is "intellectual" and not simply pattern recognition
>implying there aren't sub-100iq chess masters

>> No.3192779

I wouldn't know smart or whatever but smart people with whom I could speak about anything wuld eventually turn me down.
There was this guy who read a fucking lot and was always talking to me about a bunch of shit I wouldn't understand, mostly having to do with logic, philosophy, epistemology, semantics, blah blah. He eventually started talking about nothing but the illuminatti.
The other guy was a really ingenious inventive guy who liked paradoxes, infinity, mysticism and a bunch of interesting stuff, and we'd spend hours talking about all that shit and a bunch of nonsense and stupid senseless jokes and wordplay and shit. Lately he's always right about everything and now you can't talk with him abut anything without getting a lecture on his truth.

>> No.3192789

I become really depressed. I think back on what I could have done differently to be more like them. I literally go through all of my life that I can remember on that day, thinking, If only I'd ... If only they'd ... Maybe if ... Or if I'd ...
Those people who are very obviously my betters stay with me a long time. I still think of Martin, and Aisling, and Gavin. I've yet to encounter any more.
They're rarely the very educated, and are often simply upper class individuals that (I imagine?) see through all the bullshit lesser persons swallow. Something in their life has caused them to develop ruthlessness and ruthless honesty with themselves. I don't think many of us experience that catalyst.

>> No.3192800

>>3192764
>implying thinking is "intellectual" and not simply pattern recognition

>> No.3192803

>>3192151
Just because something is complex (chess) does not mean it requires intelligence

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>>3192800
i would agree w/ that, probably

>> No.3192821

>>3192803
i agree, monsieur, one only has to look at what bankers do to realise this eternal truth of all revealed religions.

Scardinelli, 1765.

>> No.3192838

every day I wish I could talk to someone REALLY smart, a Cioran or a Nietzsche, pick their brain about all sort of things and see if their thoughts coincide with mine or spark in me new thoughts.
I know I'm not a genius but I'm relatively smart and I know a lot about art and film, a bit less about literature and philosophy and almost nothing about politics, history, science, math, all subjects that fascinate me. I'm a girl and I only have one girl friend who I talk to and she's very smart but she's into the same things I'm into so I would like to talk to someone who reads a lot or who watches a lot of films... but I'm really internet shy and always feel I'll make a fool out of myself so I lurk here or /tv/ for the rare good threads, but since I've started doing this I learned so much already.

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>>3192838

a girl who knows about Cioran?

this is a good thing

>> No.3192870

>>3192838
i've spoken to both cioran and nietzsche, monsieur, and when you speak to them for a long time, they start to fall apart, like the walls collapse in on a clostrophobic, until you start to laugh together and then there is only the laughter and you and he are not there, there is nothing there, and only Raamah will hear the laughter, hey sita.

Scardinelli, 1765.

>> No.3192878

>>3192870
This really isn't funny.

>> No.3192943

>>3192870
I've seen a documentary with Cioran and he was really smart. He was barricaded in his house reading from morning until evening and hating everyone. He would probably hate me too because I couldn't keep up with him but nonetheless he stroke me as the type of person I would like to talk to for hours and hours. Btw Eastern philosophies and occultism are another thing I would like to talk more about, I've read Schure some years ago but never really delved deeper into it.
I hope I'm not coming off as attention whoring... I know when a girl says she's a girl here that's what everyone must think... but I just saw an occasion to say how I felt since having no one to talk to has been depressing me for a while.

>> No.3192965

>>3192943
i know you, my love, are looking to unwind a thread for me, and you are seeking the Seraphita of my wine.

Scardinelli, 1765.

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>>3192965
>This Monsieur

>> No.3192995

>>3192838

I'm into art and film too. I can talk to you if you want. I like films with strong cinematography and mise-en-scène that underlies the story and themes. My favorite films are: Persona, Hiroshima mon amour and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Not in order. What films do you like?

>> No.3193005

>>3192995
lets have sex

>> No.3193007

>>3192995
not this one, monsieur. he is sick of sin.

>> No.3193008

If I knew Tao Lin then I could say yes.

>> No.3193026

Yes, but I was young too. I thought a catholic freshman(!!!) of my level of intellect. I was a tad hostile, mostly because she was the stereotype.

>inb4 I was Sophmore at time.

>inb4 she thought reading Shakespeare was "intelligence". Did not Dante, nor Homer whatsoever. Was and most likely still is a Trekkie. Never even grazed mythology.

>> No.3193037

I know one person who I'd call intelligent and he almost never wants to talk about that which he is knowledgeable in. Once, whilst intoxicated, he started talking to me about post-modernism and we had a conversation about things like Vonnegut, Lynch, Nietzsche and Joyce, to name but a few. That was probably the most interesting IRL conversation i've had in a long time. I later told another friend about it (after he quizzed me about what I actually like to talk about) and he scoffed suggesting that's not a 'normal' conversation to have.

I'm British so I believe intelligence has class connotations. Everybody I know is from lower-middle to working class backgrounds and those who are intelligent seem to quietly suffer from an inability to talk about detailed subject matter without looking like a hoighty-toighty try-hard.

>> No.3193042

>>3193008
Gtfo tao

>> No.3193047

>>3193037
the british, ah, monsieur, they know how to do things correctly. who is more correct than the british?

>> No.3193087

>>3191718
>that feel when you joined MENSA hoping this would happen but everyone just talks about Glee and trivia competitions.

>> No.3193107

>>3192065
I used to live near a private liberal arts college too.

>> No.3193118

>>3193107
is this germane, monsieur? see my ignorance. i am not able to understand, even if i wanted to. you are a blank canvas, a wine i am forbidden to drink, a camel with too few humps, a human.

>> No.3193133

>>3193118
I find the alumni of such institutions to be quite deft at arranging prepared phases into sentences of the most recherche sort.

You by the by are my favourite poster here.
Pray, never abandon us for too long.

>> No.3193138

>>3193118
>a camel with too few humps

It's OK I didn't need those sides anyway.

>> No.3193185

I don't really know anyone like that except professors. Then again I don't talk to people.

>> No.3193189

>>3192065
>ingenuous

>> No.3193201

>>3193189
What about it?

>> No.3193203

>>3193189
so!!!! so!!!! so!!!!

>> No.3193242

>>3193087

I saw this professor-looking guy well into his 60's on the street just going crazy with a map and suddenly pointing to me in desperation "EXCUSE ME, excuse me!!...would you happen to know where the MENSA building is?!"

..

Me: "You're standing right...in...front...of....it."

true story, felt good all day long.

>> No.3193247

>>3191718
>implying able to conjure trivia equates in intellect.

>> No.3193262

>>3193242
It's mostly for people whe have something to prove or no other way to hang out with smart people. I'm a small town hick and there was a bad-ass milf housewife in my old group but the engineers were so-so and everyone else was an engineer. One of them used to do battle bots but he's kind of douche.

>> No.3193286

>>3192995
It's difficult to say because I watch literally everything that sounds interesting to me, old or new, famous or obscure, arthouse or experimental, anything that can inspire me or make me think. I don't know if it's acceptable to namedrop a few names but Tarr, Tarkovsky, Herzog, Fassbinder, Pasolini, Pradjanov, Terayama, Klimov are withing my favorite more well know directors, but in no way I think I'm very knowledgeable about cinema, just modestly. I haven't seen 2 out of 3 films you mentioned for instance!
I feel awkward talking about myself, I think I should stop. I don't think I would actually be able to say anything of importance to anyone (it's very hard for me to get comfortable in sharing my thoughts with someone, that's why I only have one friend), I wouldn't even be posting if it wasn't anonymously!

>> No.3193294

>>3193286
how sweet are the stupidly stupidlys!!!!

>> No.3193319

>>3192410
God


Or Q

>> No.3193528

I only believe I am smart because other people tell me so. I eventually started to believe them, but of course I sustain an internal insecurity, I think this is only natural.

This must be what the truly beautiful experience as well. They are so frequently reminded of their gorgeousness they take it as truth. Yet, how many hot girls have you known who remain deeply insecure about their looks?

If I were to say to question your intelligence is a sign of it, I am merely just congratulating my own. Any word I write is an attempt to sound smarter, and the mere admission of that might convince you it so. But I am sure I'll be proven wrong.

I think I am smart because I am told it. I constantly find interesting smart people to talk to.However, at this moment, struggle to think of somebody that hit me as "fucking brilliant".

That's hard to admit even anonymously.

I really want to think of somebody because otherwise it reveals egomania. Maybe it's just because I am stoned.

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>>3192417
nostalgia'ing way too hard right now
jesus

>> No.3193602

>>3191749
>Most people on this board are young and intelligent

no, this is /lit/, it is part of 4chan. reading books does not make you intelligent.

pull your head out of your ass and remember where the fuck you are, kid.

>> No.3193606

>>3193602
>does not make you intelligent.
what makes one intelligent to you?

>> No.3193610

>>3193606


do you know what intelligence is?

>> No.3193623

>>3193610
Do you know what I've got in my pocket?

>> No.3193626

>>3193610
can anyone?

>> No.3193647

>>3192433
>dominating conversation

This is actually insanely irritating, and not remotely conducive to good conversation. I had to deal with a roommate before who couldn't stand it when he wasn't leading the conversation, to the point where me and my other roommates could barely get a word in.

>> No.3193718

Oh, for sure. I befriended most of the ones who were my age. I've never met someone who completely eclipsed me in all areas or always proved me wrong or I someone who I never managed to outsmart at least once. Don't mean I haven't had a lot of self doubt. Feeling worthless sucks balls but I just try to remember that everybody is fallible no matter what.

>> No.3193724

>>3192433
>I dominate every single conversation I have
Bro, you ain't all that. This is irritating to fucking everybody and when you do turn out to be wrong you'll be the biggest blowhard in paradise.

>> No.3193748

It pushes me to become smarter (I have intellectual insecurity), and also keeps me modest. It's also quite a turn on when potential partners are smarter than myself.

>> No.3193755

>>3193724
this is also what goethe, carlyle, and nearly all the immortals of literature have done, with the exception of the retarded poetes maudits, monsieur. it is better to be all that than a decrepit self-repressed idiot. am i correcting in supposing that is what you are? i can love many kinds of men, but not yours.

>> No.3193774

>>3193748
smart chicks make me crazy. seriously turns me on just thinking about it.

>> No.3193778

>>3193755
>i know this because I've personally engaged in conversation with all of them and I'm not projecting at all

>> No.3193783

>>3193774
Mmm, me too anon. Even smart fictional characters give me a little chub.

>> No.3193791

>>3193778
i am all great men, all great thoughts, all great feelings. behold! i am your lord, monsieur. and are you even the least bit surprised that your lord is french and speaks english?

>> No.3193798

>>3192336
Being a proficient chess player is only indicative of how much chess you play. I went from being an awful player to a decent player in three months by playing 2-3 games a day. Most of the strategy in chess is short term and rather uncomplicated. In most non-professional games, the outcome is usually also decided by one of the players making a stupid mistake/short sighted move.

>> No.3193814

>>3193791
I'm surprised that you still manage to think you're funny.

>> No.3193825

>>3193814
but do i, monsieur? do i?

>> No.3193829

>>3191718
When I was a babby, well informed people made me feel insecure. I learned to ask them questions and formed great bonds with lots of interesting folks who love to talk about their passions.

I always feel sympathy for people with decent cognitive and verbal skills who haven't found something to invest in and learn about. I think that's because it took me time to find what I love too.

>> No.3193830

My old ladyfriend. She was brilliant.

>> No.3193867

>>3192742
I think he's got a sense of humor and I like that.

>> No.3194497

I have met a few people who were truly smart. Teachers mostly. Once a peer. I tried talking to him, start up some sort of dialogue, but I have awful conversational skills sometimes, and am a bit of a social retard, so nothing came of it.

The thing is, my intelligence is the one thing I am confident in, but just from talking to me you wouldn't realize I'm smarter than the average person. That's because I've been trained to hide it, to avoid using big words or expressing too-abstract ideas.

I learned early on that where I live, you're rarely looked up to if you're smart, you're seen as weird and different. One friend even berated me for using words she couldn't understand... not even 'big' words...

Though there's always that comforting - and vain - romantic idea of the alienated intellectual to turn to (as I suspect many on this board do (which might be why we're so hostile to each other: 'how can I be an alienated intellectual if there's so many like me?'))

>> No.3194517

I meet smarter people than me everyday, but most of them aren't very interesting.

>> No.3194518

>>3193242
There's nothing about intelligence that necessarily excludes absent-mindedness, you know.

>> No.3194520

>>3194518
dat nobel lauriate who lost his keys to his car, called the cops, only to find them in his pocket

>> No.3194619

Back in highschool I had a history teacher who seemed to know it all. One day he asked the class what we knew about the mediterannian I stood up and answered that the mediterannean was the birthplace of the Austrian panzer tank, the world's first tank which crushed France in the blitz.

He stopped opening the floor after that.

>> No.3194637

>>3191742
I know a guy that you described perfectly, besides actually being smart in any subject. He's so noisy and pseudo-intellectual it hurts. But what makes the pain extreme is the fact that he literally knows nothing and everything he says is extremely contrived.

>> No.3194642

>>3192714
I'm genuinely interested in learning for the sake of knowledge, but is it so awful that I sometimes compare myself to rivals/peers and want the occasional recognition towards my somewhat intellectual thoughts and or learnings? I guess I'm still a child waiting for someone to tell me "Hey, you're pretty smart" then.

>> No.3194649

My dad. I always tried to beat him in some subjects but always fail miserably. It was great tough since I could always ask him about anything and usually he had even just some knowledge or well tought opinion.
I propably never will be as smart as he was.

>> No.3195135

>>3194637

where can i hvae a chat with this guy roflmfao

>> No.3195143

The only reason why people look down on those who are educated or called them psudo intellectuals is because there is no self reliance instilled in our current educational system. No one goes outside of their required schooling to learn now, its just about getting through school and not really learning.

Thats why the people who read here and there and pursue studies on their free time seem so smart.

>> No.3195153

>>3191718

>Have you ever met someone who was obviously much smarter than you?

I haven't. And that bothers me somewhat. I know I'm not that smart, I struggle with lots of things. But still whoever I talk to is impressed or openly hostile towards me. The hostile ones are those I'd thought would be smarter/as smart as me, but their hostility kinda screwed that impression. Being bothered by such trifle things is no sign of intelligence.

So I'm either surrounded by fools, or I'm just way too good at faking to be smart. :/
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>> No.3195165

I have met a few extraordinary men here and there that have the quealites of a well educated, well rounded person. I think the more areas you touch, the btter. I know a few people who are ridiculously smart academically and in their specific field but what no real world application or experience.
True intelligence comes from experience and comes from dipping your hands in a broad range of topics.

A man who speaks 4 languages, works with leather, can fix your car, make Spanish tapas, traveled around, can hold a conversation about cinema, books, history,what have you is more interesting and valuable than a blank sheet academic

>> No.3195169

>>3194642
how ingenuous is your genuine interest? i am genuinely, like the jen you in lee, jen you in lee, oh i'm sincere, monsieur, i'm jen you in lee sincere! oh, trust me, messieurs! above all, and first of all, jen you in lee, i place it very close to my heart, to my "ego", my eyem.

>> No.3195174

>>3192137
sounds like me. Downplaying your intelligence is really the only thing to do, once you've tasted the despair of being smarter and don't want to be an asshole.

>> No.3195281

You guys who have girlfriends smarter than you don't know how lucky you are. That's all I could ask for, and I've only met one girl like that in my life. I probably won't again since my grades were too shit to get into a prestigious college, unless I move to a city and get lucky.

>> No.3195345
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3195345

I have never met anyone who was "obviously much smarter" than me. Everyone will encounter those who are much more informed on a particular subject. (Go to a podiatrist, and strike up a conversation about foot-injuries) This doesn't inform as to whether, or not, the person is more intelligent than you.

Personally, I hate being outmatched when it comes to knowledge-ability of anything. It makes me want to research whatever subject it may be. But, I think having a general-understanding of a vast array of subjects is more indicative of a superior-intellect than a total-understanding of a few subjects.

>> No.3195400

>>3195345
I've been there. There's no end to learning. Are you a virgo?

>> No.3195499

>>3195400
i am, monsieur. are you interested in astrology?

>> No.3195505

>>3195400
a solar virgo? a celestial virgo? a mundane virgo? the options are three and infinitely interfecundated.

>> No.3195510

>>3195345
Yes, but surely you've met someone more perspicacious than yourself

>> No.3195512

>>3195510
pespicac...ahem! no, surely not, monsieur, surely not!

>> No.3195531

>>3195499
You intercalate the word "monsieur" in your sentences. Sentences that don't really contribute to the conversation, they don't make me mad, don't make me happy... this is the only thought I had, and I will ever had about them. What did you want to accomplish? It seems like you can't accomplish what you had in mind. If you wanted responses, they will come for a while, and then they're start to disappear. So as you. Why do you waste your time? You should be out there in the street, marching, rioting. You should be out there in the street, not here.

>> No.3195538

>>3195531
>they're start to disappear
*they will
Eh

>> No.3195539

>>3195531
monsieur!!!!!

>> No.3195553

>>3195531
why do you post here, monsieur, if you feel that it is a waste of my time?

>> No.3195581

>>3191718

I currently have a physics professor who graduated from Caltech. He did most of his work at JPL and was able to retire 28 years ago. He's retiring again after this semester (presumably permanently). Since he is retiring though, he let's us ask questions about anything (literally anything, but usually science related) and he's able to talk in depth about everything we throw at him.

I overheard him talking with another professor before and unfortunately the reason he is retiring is because he doesn't believe students have as much passion in the field as they used to.

oh well

>> No.3196338

>>3192838
I enjoy talking about Nietzsche and philosophy, also film as it is a passion of mine. How would I be able to contact you? It's so rare that a girl would be remotely interesting in such things...

>> No.3196371

>>3193286
Ahh you named some interesting filmmakers.. Sounds like you have a lot of time on your hand to watch all these movies haha

>> No.3196374

>>3191718
I am that guy.
Applying the virtues of the Enlightenment, ho.
>tfw still no gf
Just so you all have some way to feel superior to me.

>> No.3196376

>>3196374
your shit still stinks, compadre

>> No.3196393

>>3196374
>likes Enlightenment philosophy
>thinks he's intelligent

lel

>> No.3196398

>>3191718
Yes; I met Pierre Boulez at Severance Hall in Cleveland Ohio in the late 1980s. Intelligence radiates from him in visible waves; you sort of have to shield your eyes. I settled for asking him about Frank Zappa because I couldn't think of anything better to say on the moment. Aftwerwards I was just happy to have gotten through the brief conversation without stammering.

>> No.3196400

>>3196393
>ad hominem attacks
>/lit/
Welcome home, friend.

>> No.3196423

>>3196338
He's not a girl.

>> No.3196589

>>3195553
ahah! there you have touched upon a point, monsiuer, and no mistake, you surely have a quick mind to quel the absurdity of others! if i could boldly claim as to why you receive mixed signals, at least, why I find you to be quite intolerable, i would start with the insincerity of your comments, carefully constructed to make us think, they bring forth some great points from which we could all benefit! alas it is your execution with which there is a problem, for you are a half-way house between anonymous and trip, une maison I do not wish to visit, monsiuer! when i see a trip, my eyes can choose to glide over what they say, yet i often don't, for i believe they have just as much to say as others, yet when i see you comment, although the hilarity with which you deal with the users of this board, it does not escape me, i cannot hear anonymous, i can only hear a mock french voice, individual, but lacking substance and favouring pretence, i much prefer to hear the drone of the anonymous voice, that i choose to read all of 4chan in, trips alike! perhaps you could put a trip on at least, monsiuer! then i could choose whether or not to filter you're carefully considered words!

>> No.3196597

>>3196589
oh hey buddy

>> No.3196623

>>3191718
Plenty of times. From how I see it they're usually just upset that they can't relate to others on an intellectual level and they're happy to have someone ask for information, so I usually try and weave in a few questions on whatever they seem to really love so they have a venting-outlet in their lives.

The side effect of an interesting conversation where I don't have to be extrovert extraordinaire is a bonus.

>> No.3196649

>>3191718
My friend that I'm making a comic book with has an extensive amount of knowledge,
but he's earnest about it,
so I can talk to him without feeling too insecure.

>> No.3197061

Can you become a phoenix after committing intellectual suicide?

>> No.3197087

>>3191718
yes. now when I meet them it's like watching a magician when you know how he does his tricks.

>> No.3197159

most people don't think much of me until I have an "intellectual" conversation with them, during which I can simply see on their face that they are amazed/intrigues by what I'm saying (and not because what I said is stupid).
I'm still young so perhaps I haven't been around long enough to meet anyone who I instantly deemed smarter than me. I grapple with the concept of intelligence, though. I mean, I've met kids with great memories who dwarf me in GPA and history, but then I've met kids who can't write or argue nearly as good as me. It's a complex thing, this concept of "intelligence".

>> No.3197192

>>3197159
Are you twelve? Sweet mother nature, that was very try-hard.

As response to OP's question:
Most people are smarter than me, if you measure intelligence by general knowledge. If you measure intelligence by knowledge in any single topic, I'm sure everyone is smarter than me. You gotta listen and learn, mang.

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>>3197061
only if you promise to yourself that you will make blood sacrifices of the other phoenix's

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>>3197192
HULK READ!

>> No.3197230

i wish i weren't so aggressively fucking mediocre

>> No.3197234

Never met anyone like that OP, met a lot of people who thought they were but they were always humbled by some minor thing like fixing a car or what their constitutional rights are. Seriously if you don't know your rights or how to change your own oil then you're a fucking pitiful excuse of a human.

>> No.3197236

>>3197230
you have found the heart of postmodern existence

>> No.3197250

>>3197234
yes these things are easily overlooked but when A person rich in knowledge about any topic is able to do these things, we immediately become humbled and forget about the value of knowledge, translation becomes as intellectual as its range of capacity for specificity.

mediocre is a good way to comb your hair

>> No.3197257

>>3197222
wat?

p.s. trips

>> No.3197261

>>3192232

Lol I can only imagine what that class would be like.

>>So class, I have another story for you today...

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>>3197261

"This is what i look like hundreds of years ago before i got the Lavar facelift, and started teaching classes"

>> No.3197614

>>3191804

All he's good at is stuff that society currently worships. His whole life is probably a void of soullessness and he cries himself to sleep every night at how much of a whore he is

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>>3192293
LEAVE THREAD NOW