/lit/ - Literature

yes

>>3518064

no

Well I have to if I want to read English book since I'm in Iran and my other option would be reading them on a LCD, but I don't use it for books in my own language. I had a Nook Simple Touch, which I loved and used for about 6 months, recently bought a Kindle Paperwhite and my reading time has increased a lot, it's great for bed reading.

Yes I have a Kobo Mini and I love it.

>>3518064
Yes, and I have been reading a lot more since then. Kobo glo.

bump

Great timing for this thread, OP. I'm considering buying a kindle but I want to be able to do bed reading so I'd also have to get some of those lights for it(not buying Paperwhite since shit's too expensive). I've been hearing those actually work better than Paperwhite does, is that true? If so which are the best?

>>3518142
or get a bedside lamp.

Since I got my Kindle, I've read so much more. It really enhances my reading experience.

You idiots can keep your paper books, I grew up on them, but I feel no loyalty to them at all. I lived in a library and learned the Dewey decimal system. I 100% endorse e-readers.

Fantastic devices.

The 70 dollar Kindle (that I do not own, but have used) is worth every penny.

>>3518142
no, don't do that, just save up and buy a paperwhite, after using one for a while, can't see myself going back to a reading light, the lighting is really good and comfortable, not worrying about light batteries is very good too. if you want something cheaper I think kobo glo is cheaper

>>3518142
I actually dislike the paperwhite greatly.

You realize people have been using lights to read at night since the dawn of literature, right? You can buy a simple book light from many stores that clip on, or some made for e-readers, or a bedside lamp, or a candle, or whatever the fuck you want. Silly.

Paperwhite is a huge waste of money.
Been reading a lot of print books that have pure white backgrounds have you?

>>3518145
Completely agree, they're absolutely fantastic, I really see no need for paper books now, books are going the way of the CDs anyway

>>3518153
>I actually dislike the paperwhite greatly.
what don't you like about it?

and to anyone saying it's expensive, not having to pay money for books will make up for the 120$ in no time

>>3518165
Price point. 70 dollar Kindle works fantastic. Get a book light you lazy fuck.

>>3518174
Can we all agree that e-readers are awesome no matter what, thanks.

>>3518174
so you do like e-readers, well for some people paying an extra 50 for what they're getting would seem like it's worth it, surely you can understand that? but yeah I agree, the regular readers are fine as well if you want to use lights, but for that price I would rather recommend Nook Simple Touch

i have a sony reader and its great

>>3518195
sony makes the worst e-reader, their last two models (prs t1 and t2) look like shit compared to Nook and Kindle, with all those buttons

>>3518201
I understand they are the best regarding PDF support.

i got a kindle paperwhite because i'm too poor to buy books and i live too far away from the next library. i really love that thing to bits, especially the build in dictionaries are so much help when reading in foereign languages. if there's a word you don't know, you simply click it and you get a translation or definition. reading has never been this easy and fast.

where do you guys get your books? like, in ebook format. I just started looking today, as mi kindle will arrive shortly, and I still can't find the ideal website, they all have waiting times, little selection, mostly pdfs, or even .exe downloads to get magnet links, what the fuck.

>>3518313
#bookz, read the sticky

http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bookz

>>3518313
there are torrents for actual kindle books with the drm removed, like whole libraries, sorted by authors

I just use my phone. I haven't read a real book in about 2 years.

epub master race reporting

>>3518354
>implying there's actually a difference between mobi and epub

I prefer to read books but I have a Kindle app on my phone which has a bunch of collections on there (D.H. Lawrence, Plato, Whitman, Shakespeare, Dostoevsky etc etc). I read them on lunch breaks and my journey to and from work each day.

English is not my first language, so the english dictionary is great! And Internet is a limitless source of books :) So yes, I use a reader and it's great!

>>3518064
Kindlefags are the applefags of the ereader space. You know that the amazon book store is cancer right? You know that you shouldn't buy DRM filled garbage by a company itching for an antitrust lawsuit.

>>3518562
>amazon book store
>BUYING EBOOKS

>>3518354
>babby doesn't know about my epub reading kindle

>>3518562
holy shit he buys ebooks

>>3518562

>>3518562

>>3518577
>>3518623
>>3518630
>>3518664
>not paying for literature
>thinking a book is only valuable if it's printed in paper
Congratulations, little kids! You're the reason things like DRM exist.

>>3518677
Just checked my 600GB ebook library. Nope, no DRM there. Try again, newfag.

I have a sony-srt-something reader and I LOVE it.
I used it a lot in high school, it was easy to hid it under a notebook and pretend to follow the lesson while reading.
Also, being italian, having an english dictionary into the e-reader is fucking useful. My English is getting better and better.

I bought a Kobo Touch a couple of days ago, but it hasn't arrived in the post yet.

>>3518313
I've downloaded a couple of books from bookfi.org but I'm not sure about the legality of the site. Anyone know if it's a legitimate site?

Yes.

I have a first-gen nook and a sony prs300.

The nook is technically superior, but the battery power is a fucken joke in comparison. The prs300 can last until I finish reading one entire novel in epub; the nook only lasts a couple days.

>>3518318
I have the hardest time getting on that damn server with hexchat for some reason. Might need to try a different IRC client.

Kobo are the master race.

>>3519054
it's a legit pirate site. mostly djvu and pdf though.

>Reading eBooks
>Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment
>ISHYGDDT

eBooks butcher classic texts,(pic related) they're an abomination that will kill the industry and flood the market with trash. Congratulation you're all helping to kill off literature

>>3519274
>download ebooks from shitty source
>complaint about artifacts
>OMG THIS TECHNOLOGY SUCKS BECAUSE OF THIS EXAMPLE HERE

>>3519274
you should be banned from using computers

back to school faggot

I own a Kobo Glo. Aside from numerous manufacturing defects, it's fine. Reads ,CBR and ,CBZ too.

>>3519321
Oh yeah, and about 45-50 hours of use (with the glowlight on the lowest setting, still very bright) between charges, though I seldom ride the battery that hard.

>>3518705
Why on earth would you have 600GB of books?

I mean, it's awesome to have choices, but unless you're seeding them all back into the web, I see no point in increasing the redundancy of material you probably not be able to appreciate.

Please enlighten me.

>>3518618
How do you do it?
(I normally use Calibri to convert from ePub to Mobi, but it would be nice not having to do that anymore)

>>3519362
To read them.

just got my upgrade

only downside is that it's slightly heavier, like a small ceramic brick or something.

>>3519408
Awww, thanks man, for a minute I was under the impression you just kept such a huge collection to print on higienic paper and wipe yourself with it.

Furthermore, how to you manage it?
Do you just have organized by author name of you use some application?

>>3519362

I do that with music. It's not that I'll ever listen to all of it, but having a great big library just exposes you to more information and facilitates finding new and interesting stuff.

yea yea its a nice device and all but it will never be the same as an actual library.. for one you cant be proud of a collection of something that is only on a screen.. but when you walk into a massive library you will always get that awe factor.

Just bought a $50 Chinese tablet running Android, looked up some method to install the Market, installed Moon reader, read a lot of epubs and works like a charm.
Wondering what e-readers (specially e-ink) are like, but no plans on getting one anytime soon

I-pad mini on them hoes

>>3518145
Only $70? Damn america is cheap

>>3519469
My point, if you can consider tthat a point, is: You can listen to an album in less than an hour, you can even drive, do your loundrary or whatever while listening to it.

It takes considerably more time and efford to appreciate a single book.

Again, if it's just for personal use, wouldn't 600GB be just a little bit over the top?

>>3519474
What are books for you then? Decoration?
Do you actually read them or are you in /lit/ just for the "awe factor".

Don't get me wrong, I love libraries and the paper thing, but it's easier to move around when all the 20+ books you carry with you are virtually weightless...

>>3519694
no, you can't comprehend 600GB in ebooks.
I have somewhere near 500GB in music and it's in the years scale. I can't possibly listen to all of it. It's impossible to read 600GB in books.

>>3519700
I couldn't agree more with you.
And you can, out of the blue, just decide to spend a day listening to some artist's entire discography...

Books are in an completely different time scale, that's why I asked: "What is that for?"

>>3518081
Are you afraid of Revolutionary Guard members finding evil Western Books on it.

>>3518562
There was a book I just couldnt find on bibliotik, library nexus, or bookz, so i bought it for 10 bucks from Amazon.

I then stripped the DRM from it with calibre.

>>3519467
Not him, but I type in books i want to read in the search bar in windows, and it usually comes up.

>tfw saving over two thousand dollars pirating books this year

>>3519878
WIN

>>3519735
When it doesn't come up, you probably look it up on the web.

That said, why not just keeping the books you actually have the intention of reading?

I mean, imagine you can raid the national library, would just take all the books you can carry just because it's free? Wouldn't you go for the stuff you actually will be able to appreciate, the stuff you like?

Can I post here if I use an iPad for reading or are you going to stone me to death?

I love paper books, but downloading e-books is great now that I have to read like 4-5 novels for my English Lit final. As I'm not in the US, books in English are rather expensive and I don't want to buy books just because I have to. If I enjoy the ones I read now, I'll buy them later.

Can i hijack this thread to see if anyone has a link to The Norton Anthology of English Literature? If not the whole thing then just volume A/1 would suffice. I checked bookz and couldn't find it.

ebooks vs physical volumes.
False dichotomy.
Pirate and read 8 books and you paid off the thingy.

>Year of the Interlace-Kindle teleputer
>still thinking ereaders somewhat forbids you to go buy a physical book
>not seeing the usefulness of having a device that gets you free books that can stay on for weeks and that has free instantaneous dictionaries
>not realizing it's been a decade pdfs are everywhere but nobody complains
>implying I buy my computer because intel or nvidia
>nor realizing I just want something that let me run linux, windows with torrent/web browser/compiler/pdf reader/multimedia player

but more importantly

>not being curious about technology affecting and shaping our future habits when the said-technology is cheap as FUCK
>jesus christ guys wake the fuck up and move on, this isn't 2003 anymore.
>JSCGWTFUAMOTI2003A

>>3518145
Remember, anons who say "I love paper backs! The smell of books and turning the pages!" are, literally, faggots and possibly hipsters.

>>3519878
Same here :3

>>3521822
I have a theory about people who hate e-readers. They're either hipster faggots who want people to see their book collection, or people who don't read enough, so they don't see the value in getting books for free.

Either way, I don't give a shit.

I prefer a real book, but I travel a lot, so it is easier to have an eReader both because large books cannot be carried around, and because the few English book shops in countries like Thailand and Japan are unlikely to stock the sort of writers I read.

As a result of having an ereader I've read things I never would have read if I had to buy something from a book shop. I'm sure most authors would prefer their works to be read for free, than neither read nor bought at all.

guys /b fag here... wait i can get FREE books?! like books i want to read?

>>3519700
I have 160gb in music and I think 200gb is where I would draw the line and start deleting the dregs. Unless you're using high quality FLAC files. 500gb in low-med quality MP3s would more than cover most of the best pop (broadly termed) music since 1950. I don't know if you've also got a lot of classical music, world music, etc.

>>3518313

Usually just googling "book name epub" gets you where you wanna go. There's always TPB or torrents.to as well.

>>3520013
I have no idea about the quality of what these are, but I mean I just googled for it http://www.n8fan.net/item/norton-anthology-of-enlish-literature-ebook-epub-pdf/

>>3518064
There is a new site bookos that has popped up and seems to have some pretty rare ebooks. There is also a version that is full of scientific articles.

>>3521955
Library....

I just got my first ereader yesterday and well shit. Real books suck.

I love reading on an e-reader. Don't get me wrong. But I also really like reading books.

>>3518142
The worst part about the paperwhite is that you can't disable the light. It's irritating after a while. I'll also rule in favor of the book light/ bedside lamp crowd.

>>3519368
Duokan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8VHJYo1xc

>>3523515
I got a NST and it was on sale and came with a free light

Can anyone recommend me an e-reader that's under 130 euros? Thanks

>>3522077
Looks like the same site as bookfi.org. great site

>>3523568
paperwhite goes for something around 125

Converting .pdf to .epub is a fucking ballache

I read all my books on an LCD monitor.

fucking disgusting

Yeah! The Paperwhite is great for reading anywhere, I love it! No shadows across the screen while you're reading on a bus, or if they turn the light off at night. (as someone who rides public transport a lot, this is super helpful!)

>having to pay extra for no ads
new level of jewdom

>>3524357
You might just be excited. but damn, I hope that was a satirical parody of a salesman.

>>3524098

disgusting or not - i'm eager to buy one, because i'm reading mainly on my trip to work and back (roughly 2 hours per day). So - be my guest and carry and read some thick book in the bus and the train i'm constantly tripping.

I might, if I could pick it up at a retailer. it's bad for my nerves to wait for tech to arrive in the mail. I puke blood, shit tears and pee vomit out of pure impatience. I think I'll just stick to my smartphone for now.

>>3524486
if you have a barnes and noble store you could pick up a nook

>>3524521
no such thing in Denmark, I'm afraid. we have our own little shitty chains.

>>3518064
no, because i like books.

>>3521912
Quite not, you're taking the "attention seek" argument very far. Some people (like me) like to have their collection of books in private. There are also lots of books in foreign languages that seem difficult to find. How do you find a book of essays on a specific region literature? Somehow ereaders still a very english-speaker luxury.

My grandfather gave some old books to my father, who added books to that collection and then passed it on to me, I would feel terrible if instead of giving my children their great grandfather's book I just gave them an ereader. It's mostly a tradition thing. After all, you can't deny the physical nature of a printed book, hence you can't say that "they're made just for reading" because that specific object will have sometimes emotional value or will represent some personal thing besides the literature itself.

It's only my opinion, I sometimes read ebooks too, but wel...

>>3524614
I'm not english or american and your arguments are fucking stupid.

A kindle doesn't mean you have to stop buying books.
As anon said earlier, you can download a few books to pay the thing off. That would take a few weeks of reading, top.

I have a ki dle and I still buy books. My library just feel more meaningful and intimate since I only buy my favorite books.

Ereaders are good for subway, train, plane, quick reads, free books and avoiding doorstops.

are they easy on the eyes to read over long periods?

I have always been into hard books but they're just too goddamn expensive to consistently read something new.

>>3519368
look up Duokan, newfriend
lurk moar

>>3519878
>tfw pirating 140$ finance handbook and deleting it repeatedly for 20 minutes.
>tfw it costs evil publisher corporation over 150 thousand dollars

>>3519986
>why
because I can and because it's effortless
>tfw you will never know the feel of having millions of books at the reach of your hand
I don't know that feel, you do

>>3521912
It's about egotism and sunken costs.

Egotism because they want everybody to admire them for their collections and sunken costs because they spent loads of money on decaying paper while smart people just DLed them for free in infinitely larger number, and rather than getting over the failure and joining the winners they deny the reality.

Petty little roaches

you have any alternatives to #bookz? i'm looking for the books of Sam Pink

>>3527325
Try there at different times of the day/days of the week. Some fservs aren't always there. The only other good alternative is usenet, which is imo better, but you'll have to pay for a provider.
>>3518064
I use a Nook Classic that was a hand me down. I really like it, I've cracked the frame in a few spots but it still works fine. When the Touch was on sale after Christmas I went to check it out but it didn't refresh any faster than the classic so I didn't bother upgrading.

Does anyone not use there ereader in public? I'm always afraid someone is going to try to steal it

I have a kobo glo. It's pretty nice although the light could be better (has an azure tint, worse on lower setting).

However, a kindle with duokan would probably be the best choice if you can turn the light off with it completely.

>>3518064
Don't know if I should buy one. Can you turn off the light in the paperwhite?

>>3527387
I use it when I'm out and about, on the subway or wherever. None of them are flashy enough to get stolen I think.

>>3527416
Apparently no. Maybe you can with duokan.

>>3527516
I think you need to mod the firmware for that, but it can be done. Don't understand that design choice at all.

>>3527387
I live in post-commie state and I'm not concerned about this at all. Most people around have smartphones much more expensive than my Kindle 3G.

>>3519321

>Kobo Glo
>numerous manufacturing defects

Such as? I was thinking of buying one.

Is a Kindle Fire HD worth the extra money, or is a basic Kindle just the way to go? Does the Fire HD even count as an e-reader?!

>>3527525
Not >>3519321, but I had to return mine twice. The first had glowing pixels when you turned the light on, the second's screen was rotated about 2mm to the left. If you can, check for these things in a shop.

Also, there are two models, one with a blue-tinted pretty strong light and one with a weaker, yellowish light. AFAIK the yellow batch is newer. I have the blue version and sometimes it annoys me, but at full brightness your eyes get used to it in the dark and it looks quite white. I still prefer to read with an external lamp, though.

>>3527538
Fire HD doesn't use e-ink, it's a tablet.

I'm scared of the idea of used book stores everywhere closing and the book becoming something condemned to the private sphere of e-readers. There's definitely something to be said about people who might only avoid ebooks for egoistic reasons (having a bookshelf that they think conveys being well-refined, reading something that they think will make them look impressive in public, etc. and doing these things only for appearances) but I would be much less happy in a world where book stores and the surprises and relics within don't exist, and everyone who reads in public is staring at a cold, digital machine -- they could be reading Ulysses or Heaven Is For Real by Todd Burpo, but either way it just looks like they're staring at a metal rectangle. I love the presence and warmth offered by physical books. Plus, buying a physical book does at least something to give the Book a more hopeful future...

With that said, ebooks are better for the environment and unarguably more "convenient" to read and carry around. I still buy physical, though, for the reasons I stated.

>>3527577
All my local used bookstores closed twenty years ago. National chains and the 'charity' department store styled thrift stores killed them. I can go to savers/salvation army/foo and pay $4+ for a used paperback, fuck that. I'll still hit up library books sales and things but then you see a hoard of assholes ripping the place apart with scouters so they can make 50c on amazon, it's depressing.
I'll hold on to physical copies of technical manuals and cookbooks these days, that's about it. Old pulp scifi that I pick up, I read and pass on.

The cheap kindle is nice because it's pretty much everything you need. I don't have enough money to buy all the books I need, but I definitely prefer an actual book for reading.

>>3527577
I like my reading privacy. I also hate ugly book art, and most of it IS absolutely horrible. Before I got my ereader I usually made black dust jackets for my books (which also kept them protected).

You're also always free to personalize your reader cover as much as you like if you want to add some personality.

>>3527714
Yeah, privacy is important for me since in my country I can't read some books legally (e.g Hitler's books, etc.) I don't want no one telling me what I can read and what I can't.

>>3527288
>because I can and because it's effortless
Also known as "because I'm an asshole and want to show off"

Do you even read?
Or do you just keep this huge amount of books on your hardrive hoping to impress people mentioning that in casual conversation?

btw, not impressed.

>>3527727
What country do you live in?

>>3527633
>>3527589
There's an interesting thing going on here in Brazil, the number of bookstores is actually increasing,specially the big chain ones.

They are adapting, instead of just selling books they know offer electronic products and usually serve coffee and some snacks.

I believe "the book" as you said you survive, as theater survived cinema and radio survived television.

But this medium will adapt.

And "Art books" can't be translated into digital form properly, like Pop Up and other less conventional formats.

>>3529391
>because I'm an asshole and want to show off
yeah I totally shove my hard drives in people's faces

moron

>>3529408
poland, afaik, in most central european states hitler books are banned

>>3529415
>They are adapting, instead of just selling books they know offer electronic products and usually serve coffee and some snacks.
Welcome to the 1990's, Brazil. Truly a developing country.

>>3530277
Yes, I'm looking forward to when we start invading muslin countries to bring them "democracy", sweet democracy.

I've got the Kindle with ads (I believe it is the Kindle 3). It is pretty cheap, and if you keep the wifi off, you don't get any ads.

>>3530888
I never had a problem with the ad system anyways. You only see the ads when you're about to start reading or when you finish. You can even power it down completely if it bothers you that much.

I don't use my e-reader because it's usually easier to walk to the library and check out what I want, rather than finding an ebook and converting it.

Also, I feel more accustomed to reading the physical book. It's also more provocative if I use a Kindle in class instead of reading. Some teachers don't like laptops so it becomes a gray area.

I grew up with books, so I'm accustomed to them. In addition:

- They are cheap (in used book stores anyway)

- Books will always be readable if there is light and I still have eyes to see (they never run out of batteries)

- It's harder to lose a whole library than a single e-reader

- A big library is friggin sweet, bro

- I like having books separate from each other and being able to peruse them by hand

>>3530928
If you are from outside the US, you can contact Amazon and they might remove the Ads for you.
I got my Paperwhite and since I don't have a US credit card they removed them free of charge.

Reposting from /r/ because nobody answered :

I bought recently a Kobo Glo and have a problem with some of the epub I have : the e-reader sometimes "forgets" my user configuration of the margin size or of the font size. This happens in particular when I put the e-reader to sleep then switch it back on, and try to turn a page, or when the chapter change.

I can't find inside the epubs that work correctly the style code that can fix this, mostly because the code wording is a mess. Anyone can help me by directing me toward what to look for ?

>>3530950
So you like the idea of a book, more than getting the sweet contents of a book.

Well, we need someone to appreciate aesthetics.

>>3531025
An EPUB is basically a zip of HTMLs. Sometimes, some tags are broken so your device might display weird stuff.

In Calibre you can remove all "fake margins" and resize all fonts to whatever you want.

>>3531058
3531025 here
I use Sigil to get into the epub and edit the html code directly inside. The problem is that I can't find where the problem is. Even if I remove all the command lines that set margins, it doesn't fix the problem. The only epub I have that don't have the problem are from the Gutenberg free ebooks library, and their code is a mess so I can't find why it works in them.

>>3531089
> Hey use Calibre
> I don't.

>>3518313
soulseek+calibre and you're set

>>3531095
I didn't mentioned Calibre, because that's the first thing I did and it didn't work, and didn't gave as much access to the epub content than Sigil.

So, if you could direct me to the option in Calibre allowing to do that and that I would have missed, I'm all ears. If not, I think I would have a better chance with Sigil than with Calibre.

>>3531118
Heh, sorry, I'm not here to be useful. It took me a good few months before I discovered you can actually read books in Calibre to.

>>3531053
like=/=like more

>>3531089
If you want, upload any of the EPUBs that are displayed incorrectly (please use anonfiles.com, that's the only shit I have access to at work) and I'll check if there's something weird.

I have a Kindle and find it pretty useful. Must say though, I've never finished a big book on it and have only made it entirely through a few short novels and plays on it. Something about it puts me off finishing certain texts.

>>3531195
Here's an epub done by an anon from /a/ (I had to put it inside a rar because anonfiles didn't like the epub one). His code is quite tidy, so it should be easier to work with.

https://anonfiles.com/file/ff69d79ccc162393340150984aeffb4e

>>3531953
That's weird. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with that file.

Maybe setting a fixed size for the regular text class will force your Kobo to display it properly.

Or maybe it won't.
My Kindle occasionally does weird stuff with the size of the text, things that only happen in one chapter or simply disappears when I reopen that specific book.

>>3532511
>Maybe setting a fixed size for the regular text class will force your Kobo to display it properly.
Been there, done that.

Well, thanks for trying.

>>3518161
>I really see no need for paper books now
I endorse e-readers, but this is just stupid. Hardcovers aren't susceptible to the same dangers as electronic records are. It will always have it's place.

>>3533440
they have even worse dangers.