/lit/ - Literature

Completely mesmerised by that gif.

>>3566400
Don't mess around.

>>3566400
Me too. I'm at a small not-quite-a-houseparty and I just showed it to all of them. It was very well received. "THAT'S SO TRIPPY" etc. We are, quite stoned atm.

>>3566430
What are you doing here Dr. Autism?

Just read it at your own pace man. They're just theories at the end, not actual accounts of laws extraneous to our observation of them. If you enjoy it, go ahead. You can start with your contemporaries and slowly regress to the ancients to track the modes of reasoning which are employed.

>>3566430
Go talk to that qtpi and ask her how much a polar bear weighs.

>>3566395
general overview of all of them, but I can't find reading anything before the 19th century that useful

>>3566463
>contemporaries
Got any names for me?

>slowly regress to the ancients to track the modes of reasoning which are employed.
Interesting approach, but I wouldn't know where to start though

Thanks

>>3566480
Well, the question of abortion has led to some interesting metaphysical discussion in the fields of applied ethics (and more precisely bioethics). I find the works of Julian Savulescu, Gary Francione, Jeff McMahan, and Galen Strawson very accessible. A good start is to get a good overview of philosophy, so the standard recommendation I make for this purpose is Anthony Kenny's "A New History of Western Philosophy". If you start off by reading books that are academically published and written on a specific topic, you might find all the terminology relentless. Going down that route is a baptism by fire for sure.

>>3566480
http://www.imprint.co.uk/strawson.htm

http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/against_narrativity.pdf

http://philosophypress.co.uk/?p=726

see if you find any of those interesting

>>3566502
>A good start is to get a good overview of philosophy, so the standard recommendation I make for this purpose is Anthony Kenny's "A New History of Western Philosophy"
I think I have a rough overview of the whole, after reading Durant's book; after which I immediately purchased a bunch of books by Plato, Aristotle, Hume, Spinoza, Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche

These alone are hard for me to swallow. Memorizing is a difficulty for me; I constantly find myself re-reading a page several times; Either philosophical texts are that painful to synthesize, or I've got a severe case of ADHD

>>3566507
Bookmarked your links - will read them later. Can you summarize your point in a few sentences?

>>3566571
at least for me, most philosophy isnt something thats read page by page. Even single sentances can contain powerful ideas that need to be read multiple times to be fully understood,

>>3566507
>Galen Strawson argues that it makes no difference whether he lives or dies

Yikes.

>>3566633
Sure, I feel the same way. Sometimes I wish I could remember the stuff I've read more easily, you know?

>>3566642
Yikes.

>>3566571
>Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer

Enjoy your psychotic break down from reading these mens works.

>>3566707
How did you recover from your psychotic breakdown?

>>3566710
i havent.

mfw.

>>3566723
mfw

>>3566723
>>3566725
No worries. I'm already partially psychotically broken. Might as well go full psychotic.

Bring it.

>>3566395
personally, i don't see any reason to ever stop reading the greeks. everything that followed after was either an expansion or reiteration of something they already did. however, this would probably only be fruitful if you branched out into gnosticism as well.

>>3566571
Focus on the 19th century Germans and add in some Marx, and you'll have a good background for all the crazy shit that happens after. Also, pick up Deleuze's books on Nietzsche and Kant, they're the shit.

>>3566732
That's bullshit, both Kant and Hegel are decisive breaks from anything the Greeks did. lrn2modernity

>>3566732
Which Greeks in particular? Give me some books on Gnosticism, please.

>>3566736
Cool. Will do.

>>3566741
yes, you're absolutely right. i just don't see that as a reason to read them.
>>3566746
geez, i don't know what you're into. if these other guys have you readin' nietzche, he tends to offer shit-or-shinola opinions on greeks/philosophers that he references so he'd be a pretty good reference. as for gnosticism, it's not for kids. there are so many levels to understanding it, it may as well be a mystery tradition. jung wrote about it frequently and jacked ideas from it, the nag hammadhi texts are helpful to see some context, terence mckenna and philip k dick speculate on gnostic shit throughout their works, and schopenhauer (although indirectly) is a decent compass for navigating the gnostic concepts.

>>3566395

Too much history to cover, better read some introductory book.

Luckily we have Guttenberg project with free books in all formats, html, txt, kindle...

The philosophy bookshelf has 3 introductory books to philosophy... I've read the one by Emily Faget, actually I stopped reading somewhere in the middle... she goes quickly through all ideas people have over time... it's great to have a wider view before choosing something more specific

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Philosophy_%28Bookshelf%29

Get Earl Russell's audiobook. Put it in the background for weeks, some things will start to repeat, you'll only pay attention to the worthy bits, and in the end you'll end up with a wide and shallow understanding of philosophy.

Play it in Audiosurf for maximum wutness.

OP, If you don't want to start by reading Plato and Aristotle which are required to get all the philosophy up the reneissance (which is pretty hard stuff), I recommend starting with Descartes.

Read his Discourse on Method and Meditations on First philosophy. Then attempt Spinoza's Ethics, or at least read some in-depth analysis of the work, it's worth it. You can check out Leibniz's Monadology and Discourse on Physics.
Congratulations, you know the rationalists know. Proceed to Locke's Essay on Human Understanding.
Once you know the distinction of rationalism vs. empiricism, you can tackle Kant I guess, but I haven't done it yet, that fucker is level 2 philosophy.

Sooner or later you should go back to Plato & friends because they're really unavoidable. Dialogues are cool.

>>3567191
>Discourse on Metaphysics*
ashamed

>>3566736
>Deleuze's books on Nietzsche and Kant,
I have these in pdf form if anyone wants them.

>>3567200
anyone who has access to internet has the pdfs, you silly goose

Sup guys? Ask someone who's read EVERY BOOK EVER what they think about literature.

>>3567200
oh yeah?!? well it took me a while to find nietzsche et la philosophie :|

>tfw when someone calls postmodernism philosophy