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4308692 No.4308692[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I implore you to find a better author portrait.

>> No.4308702
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>> No.4308708

>>4308702

No joke, I honestly thought that was a colored-in Camus picture.

Anyone else think Hitchens looks like Camus?

>> No.4308711

>>4308702
How to be a writer:
1. Write book
2. Acquire popped collar and cigarette

>> No.4308713

>>4308708
maybe if Camus were a fat ugly hack

>> No.4308723

>>4308713

Nah, just if he was fat.

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>> No.4308744

>Hitchens

>> No.4308748

>>4308744
explain why you think he's bad.

pro-tip: you can't.

>> No.4308749

>>4308748

pompous shallow moralizer

>> No.4308751
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4308751

easy

>> No.4308758
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>>4308751

>> No.4308761
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4308761

Hands fucking down.

>> No.4308762
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4308762

Next time, I'd like a hard one, please

>> No.4308763

>>4308692
what the fuck man he isn't even smoking that cigarette

what a poser, but the picture is good

>> No.4308766

>>4308763
He's clearly smoking it. The cigarette looks like it's been smoked. You can see the smoke itself.

>> No.4308769
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>> No.4308771

>>4308761
/thread

>> No.4308790
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4308790

hi

>> No.4308796

>>4308766
yes, but he didn't shake its ashes, like he was waiting for the photographer to take his picture, and in that time the cigarette was just being consumed slowly

>> No.4308807

>>4308740
I wonder what Burroughs' immediate reaction was when he shot his wife in the face.

In the movie he's stone cold and very detached, but I doubt it went down that way IRL.

>> No.4308838
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>>4308762
every pic of this guy is great

>> No.4308879 [DELETED] 
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4308879

Why is he so tanned guise? Is this real?

>> No.4308882

>>4308838
>old man trying to look "badass" to affirm his masculinity and hide his homo tendencies
>great

>> No.4308894

>>4308882
>that projection

>> No.4308897

>>4308882
>implying he even has to try

>> No.4308900
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4308900

Why is he so tanned guise? I hope to death it's not blackface.

>> No.4308906
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>> No.4308912
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4308912

Try to find a more hardcore author than Mayakovsky.

>> No.4308919
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4308919

>tfw floating candle

>> No.4308922
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4308922

looks serious and suave

>> No.4308943

>>4308882

>implying Hemingway has to try

Why don't you go try fishing for marlin, hunt big game in Africa, pay people to fight you for prize money, and tactically leading a militia.

>> No.4308961
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4308961

wasn't too hard

>> No.4308970
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>>4308900
Thanks for the inspiration :-)

>> No.4308975
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>>4308740
>>4308838
I really wonder what it is with authors and weapons.

>> No.4308983
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4308983

>>4308912
impossiburu

>> No.4309015

ITT the most awkward, funny faced looking people

>> No.4309028
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4309028

>Dat gentle and serene eyes
>Dat sensual and fleshy lips
>Dat sexy and confident half-smile
>Dat badass earring

It's like he is saying "Yes, I am the best poet of all time, but I am also a very elegant and sensual motherfucker, and if you don't take good care of your girlfriend or daughter I may end playing with her on my bed."

There is no need for that angry look, so common on the images and pictures of artists, a frowned look of someone who seems to say "I bear the weight of truth and the essence of man upon my shoulders; I am an oracle of the human soul; I am in a constant fight to grasp and expose truth and beauty: you mortals have no idea of the burden that I bear and the richness that I posses". No, no need for that. Here it is a image of someone who enjoys life and knows that art is just art, and not a substitute for sex, sports, good food, drinking beer with friends and dancing and laughing in social gatherings.

Here is a man who had an enormous world in his words; but it is also a man who knew that out there was a still more important an bigger world, and he was not going to left life without tasting and enjoying that bigger Globe, where people of flesh and blood breathed and make shades under the sun.

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>>4308975

>> No.4309041
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>> No.4309048

>>4308692
>trying this hard to camus

Sad.

>> No.4309057

>>4308975
In the thumbnail he looked like Tom Waits.

>> No.4309067
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Beckett

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>> No.4309089

>>4308740
Look where that trigger discipline led him.

>> No.4309095
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4309095

>>4308762
>>4308838
Such a try hard.

>> No.4309100

>>4309095
You could add silly text to literally every portrait in existence to try and make it look dumb. Not sure what you're point is.

>> No.4309104

>>4309095

Man, this, this, this. I thought I was the only one who saw how much of a poser this guy was.

>> No.4309106

>>4309041
it always amazes me how try-hard artists, especially writers are. always the same edgy smoking so deep photo

>> No.4309110

>>4309095
i understand where that macro is coming from, but you have to remember that at the time Hemingway's masculinity was more natural and believable. the man fought in both world wars, he's entitled to act like that.

what's annoying is kids imitating him today, trying to be 'manly' and whatnot but it comes off completely contrived. masculinity has changed and while we can still learn from hemingway, these pencil-necked liberal arts majors who think drinking scotch makes them a man are total faggots.

>> No.4309111

>>4309100
An old man deliberately posing for a multitude of portraits that show him as a manly, vital and adventurous person? It's just another aspect of Hemingway's childish narcissism evident to anyone, including those close to him. I respect the man greatly as an author but he was a poser and a try hard and obsessed with creating his own legend.

>> No.4309113
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4309113

this is a facebook pic.

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>> No.4309124

>>4309110
agreed for example i lift weights, punch walls until my knuckles bleed and can grow a full beard so i kinda feel entitled to it but i feel bad for those kids

>> No.4309129

>>4309111
>that show him as a manly, vital and adventurous person

i think an argument could be made that he was actually was those things. he also was also a narcissist, and immature in some ways because he's a complex human being.

and of course he's building his 'legend', every famous person ever from King Tut to Obama does that. it's part of how you get remembered

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>>4309111
I'm interested in seeing any portrait taken before the popularity of easily portable cameras that doesn't involve the subject deliberately posing. I'm also kind of surprised that you think it's "try-hard" to involve your hobbies in a portrait, it's very common.

>wow look at this try hard posing next to a chess set
>what a fag
>lol so deep
>wow such smarts
etc.

Not that I'm disagreeing that Hemingway was interested in perpetuating a "Manly Author" stereotype, but you seem pretty quick to misunderstand portraits and pictures.

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>>4309124
>for example i lift weights, punch walls until my knuckles bleed and can grow a full beard so i kinda feel entitled to it

you are part of the problem.

>> No.4309138

>>4309110
Masculine behaviour in a certain way was more normal back then, but there was nothing natural about Hemingway's forced machismo. He was widely mocked for him, to which he responded with even greater theatrics. Consider the following:

>In 1937, joking about Hemingway's fascination with firearms and weaponry, the writer Max Eastman wrote, "Come out from behind that false hair on your chest, Ernest. We all know you." The next time Hemingway saw Eastman at their publisher's office in New York, he tore his shirt from his chest to prove that he had chest hair before punching Eastman.

Now this is of course hilarious, but it's also very, very sad when you think about it. Of course the kids who worship who you aptly describe will consider this anecdote as simply 'epic'.

As far as Hemingway's participation in the wars went, he volunteered as an ambulance driver in the first and was a journalist in the second. He deliberately sought out these type of situations as part of his grand myth. Of course he got mixed up in things, but that's because he chose to. Nothing in his life goes to suggest that he did so out of a sense of duty and everything points towards plain narcissism.

Don't forget that this was the guy who went out on his boat when he lived in Cuba with a Tommy gun and a few hand grenades to 'patrol for German U-boats' in Caribbean sea.

>> No.4309152

>>4309129
Of course he was those things to a certain degree because he did try to walk the walk. He didn't just mouth off. But given his reasons and general character they didn't quite come with the sort of stoic nobility associated with the masculinity he wanted to radiate. His life comes across as one big exhausting feat of method acting.

>> No.4309153

>>4309138

This guy knows things. Thank you for not being blind.

>> No.4309157

>>4309136
it was a joke sheesh

>> No.4309162
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>>4308692

7/0 attempt, OP.

>> No.4309169

>>4309131
Even when deliberately posing, there are choices to be made. Pictures of Hemingway lean more towards those of Mussolini or Putin than those of other authors. Again, I think he's a great author and in a lot of ways a tormented individual and I feel for him and appreciate him, but any look at his life that was constructed by anyone other than himself shows what a buffoon he was. If you want to take a good look at Hemingway the first thing to do is to look past his own narrative.

>> No.4309177

>>4309138
>but it's also very, very sad when you think about it.

why? hemingway knew this story would be circulated and contribute to the cult of personality he was building. i imagine our fundamental point of disagreement is whether deliberately courting fame is a bad thing. personally, i don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be famous and cultivating an exaggerated persona, especially when you have something interesting to say (as Hemingway did).

>Don't forget that this was the guy who went out on his boat when he lived in Cuba with a Tommy gun and a few hand grenades to 'patrol for German U-boats' in Caribbean sea.

again, more myth making. Hemingway knew he would never encounter a U-boat, it was just a publicity stunt and an amusing one at that. i think hemingway was more self-aware than you're giving him credit for.

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>>4309157
i hope so

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>> No.4309225

>>4308692
hes missing his fedor'

#u4ic

>> No.4309252

>>4308838
What a piece of shit.

>> No.4309287

>>4308897
>>4308894
>>4308943
how much do you fags wanna suck his tiny white prick?

>> No.4309293

>>4308692
>le egdy atheist neoconservative man

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>>4309287
>white prick

of course, we should bring race into it this discussion! why not?

are you female btw?

>> No.4309304

>>4309177
The crucial thing is the attitude. In Hemingway's case, it's not a self-concious, cheeky sort of cultivation of a public image. It's the humourless toil at a grand legend. More Alexander than Diogenes.

>> No.4309308

>>4309028
Shakespeare looks like a bald Charley Day

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>>4309034

>> No.4309318
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>>4308975

It might have something to do with The Spanish Civil War for those two.

>pic related photo of Orwell with Hemingway in the backgroung

>> No.4309329

>>4309304
>In Hemingway's case, it's not a self-concious, cheeky sort of cultivation of a public image. It's the humourless toil at a grand legend.

debatable. personally, i think there is some 'winking' in his persona (the u-boat story for example). however, i see your point.

>> No.4309335

>>4309315
Thompson is an interesting variation on the Hemingway question by the way. Hemingway was is great idol and he emulated him in a lot of ways and also created a myth for himself, but in a much more openly self-conscious way. Yet he still succumbed to it like Hemingway, but fully aware. Like a po-mo remake of the same story.

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>>4309223
>sitting in the mud with fancy clothes, no fucks given
This nigga wins the thread.

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>>4309329
Of course I can't make any definitive statements because he kept his cards close to his chest in that regard. Still, if there was something of a wink about it, I would say that was mostly in the beginning. Later on, as he feel deeper into his alcoholism and arguably mental illness, he seems a firm believer in his own myth.

>> No.4309346

>>4309223
>that awkward feel when you can just see that he had to be helped up afterwards

>> No.4309353

>>4309344
i think the alcoholism is compelling evidence for your argument. also it would help explain his suicide. i'm beginning to agree with you (at least toward the end of his life)

>> No.4309383

>>4308838
He liked killing animals for fun. He was a prick.

>> No.4309390

>>4309383
humans have enjoyed hunting for thousands of years. you are a whiny cunt.

>> No.4309400

>>4309344
>arguably mental illness
>>4309353
>i think the alcoholism is compelling evidence for your argument. also it would help explain his suicide.

Do either of you know that the F.B.I. was tracking him towards the end of his life?
>muhhh alcoholism
>mmuhhh mental illness
Hemingway, believe it or not, was aware that he was being watched.

>> No.4309403 [DELETED] 

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>> No.4309405

>>4309390
>humans have enjoyed hunting for thousands of years.
And what is that meant to argue? Humans hunting for thousands of years doesn't change Hemingway being a prick because he enjoyed killing animals for fun. I'll never understand why people appeal to consensus. Or why people are so quick to defend this man.

>> No.4309408

>>4309400
>Do either of you know that the F.B.I. was tracking him towards the end of his life?

i didn't know that, but if you're suggesting hemingway wasn't an alcoholic then you're silly.

>> No.4309412

>>4309408
>i didn't know that, but if you're suggesting hemingway wasn't an alcoholic then you're silly.
Of course I'm not suggesting that. I am suggesting that there is a very good reason why he drank, if not, many good reasons why he drank.

>> No.4309417

>>4309405
>appeal to consensus
Looks like it's more of an appeal to instinct or nature, bro. It's "natural" for Humans to enjoy hunting animals. We've evolved that way.

Anyway, I accept your opinion that hunting is for pricks and that you do not enjoy it. Thanks for your input, etc.

>> No.4309421

>>4309417
>bro

i will bet $100 the anon you're replying to is a girl.

>> No.4309426

>>4309417
>It's "natural" for Humans to enjoy hunting animals. We've evolved that way.
This is some monumental bullshit, right here.

>> No.4309432

>>4309426
Word it however you want. People have been hunting for thousands of years (since we were hunter gatherers, in fact) and we've evolved and lived around it. Please don't try to be one of those historical/biological revisionists who decides that despite our clearly predatory physiology we never hunted/ate animals or whatever. Not sure what else you could be getting at though.

>> No.4309475

>>4309400
I do know that, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an alcoholic with mental problems.

>> No.4309485

>>4309412
Hemingway was a drunk before the FBI even existed.

>> No.4309509

>>4309318

Where is Orwell in this pic?

>> No.4309524

>>4309432
> People have been hunting for thousands of years (since we were hunter gatherers, in fact) and we've evolved and lived around it.
Again, this is irrelevant. Someone doesn't decide to hunt for sport, or derive enjoyment from it, because of either a conscious acknowledgement of humans' history of hunting or a predisposition to it. Humans hunting for thousands of years does not come into the equation. It's only a flimsy justification.

>Please don't try to be one of those historical/biological revisionists who decides that despite our clearly predatory physiology we never hunted/ate animals or whatever.
Could you possibly interpret a more ridiculous thing from anything i said?

>> No.4309532

>>4309509
after a search he's apparently the one holding the pup

>> No.4309546

>>4309524
>beings with a natural disposition towards hunting other animals can derive no enjoyment from this activity
a'ight, if you say so.

>> No.4309547

>>4309475
>I do know that, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an alcoholic with mental problems.
You should work on your reading comprehension. Hemingway was obviously an alcoholic. You should tell me why you think he had "mental problems."

>>4309485
>Hemingway was a drunk before the FBI even existed.
Okay. I'm sure the F.B.I. watching Hemingway had no hand in why he drank.

>> No.4309553

>>4309509
Apparently he's the one holding the puppy.

Also
>smoking next to a puppy
Disgracehul

>> No.4309557

>>4309553
*disgraceful

>> No.4309566
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4309566

How bout this, OP?

>> No.4309570

>>4309547
>My mojito in La Bodeguita, My daiquiri in El Floridita

>I have drunk since I was fifteen and few things have given me more pleasure. When you work hard all day with your head and know you must work again the next day what else can change your ideas and make them run on a different plane like whisky? When you are cold and wet what else can warm you? Before an attack who can say anything that gives you the momentary well being that rum does? I would as soon not eat at night as not to have red wine and water. The only time it isn't good for you is when you write or when you fight. You have to do that cold. But it always helps my shooting. Modern life, too, is often a mechanical oppression and liquor is the only mechanical relief.

Classy as fuck alcoholic though

>> No.4309585

>>4308807
You think? In some videos he looks like a calm dude, not hysteric at all.

Also, what movie? The one by Cronemberg, or the one with Courtney Love?

>> No.4309591

>>4309570
It's hard not to admire Hemingway.

>> No.4309592

>>4309546
>beings with a natural disposition towards hunting other animals
you're twisting this to mean something it doesn't. Humans only have 'a natural disposition towards hunting' in the sense that at this stage of out existence, and for the last few thousand years, we have utilized the hunting of animals as one means of sustenance, meaning after we evolved into full humans, we have been driven by more than pure instinct to hunt. We're not like other animals, hunting solely because we're programmed to. It's been a while since we've evolved from that. Arguing that humans have a natural disposition towards hunting other animals suggests we operate purely on instinct like them. Thus, hunting for sport can not be defended by saying, 'I can't help myself, it was what I was bred for'. I don't know if you're intentionally being obstinate or what.

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>>4309591
I'd say there is. Nothing especially profound in that post that isn't already known.

>> No.4309643

>>4309614

Eat a dick

>> No.4309663

>>4309614
Sometimes I'm led to believe that there are people who post on /lit/ solely with the intention to attack Nietzsche and Hemingway.

>> No.4309665

>>4308708
That was my first thought too, only reason I opened the thread.

>> No.4309672

is that fat camus, OP?

>> No.4309684

>>4309663
4chan is basically contrariantown.

>> No.4309687

who is the cheekiest philosopher?

>> No.4309688

>>4308807
>implying he didn't plan out the william tell style execution of his wife so he could go fuck young boys and smoke dope in africa

>> No.4309723

>>4309547
>You should tell me why you think he had "mental problems."

>During his final years, Hemingway's behavior was similar to his father's before he himself committed suicide;[148] his father may have had the genetic disease hemochromatosis, in which the inability to metabolize iron culminates in mental and physical deterioration.[149] Medical records made available in 1991 confirm that Hemingway's hemochromatosis had been diagnosed in early 1961.[150] His sister Ursula and his brother Leicester also committed suicide.[151] Added to Hemingway's physical ailments was the additional problem that he had been a heavy drinker for most of his life.[107]

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>>4309687

>> No.4309731

>>4309688
like a boss

>> No.4309740
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4309740

>>4308900
Virginia Woolf in blackface

That's her on the left

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4309742

You meant to say contrived

>> No.4309751

>>4309742
who are those unfortunate looking white guys

>> No.4309752
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4309752

why do you bitches even try

>> No.4309753

>>4309751
plato, socrates, and aristotle at the daft punk show

>> No.4309847

>>4309095

lol oh my god!

The guy who made this is a fucking genius. Haven't laugh this fucking hard in ages.

>> No.4309874
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A nice picture.

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>> No.4309917

>>4309106
To be honest, everyone who smokes looks "deep".

No, not because of the cigarette itself, I mean that you have actually to squint your eyes, frown and pull back your mouth to inhale, so you end up looking deep. I always wonder whether they are just posing for the picture or if they are casually smoking and the photographer picks up that moment.

>> No.4309939
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>> No.4310018
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Eliot looks snazzy as fuq. Woolf looks a bit withered but she's still qt

>> No.4310015
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>> No.4310064

>>4310018
>qt

bitch looks likes the child of oscar wilde and a basset hound

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>>4308692

>> No.4310691

>>4310015
ha hahaha
thank you

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>>4310018

>> No.4310742

>>4310728

Yes, this is actually a very astute observation. I think that most literature undergrads start smoking because it conjures images of Wilde or Camus or Sartre or whoever having a smoke while lounging with a book or sitting at their writing.

>> No.4310754

>>4310613
based slutfu

>> No.4310755
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>>4310728
Does a pipe count?

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So I recently submitted some work to a lit journal for the first time and I'm wondering if just have to wait until it's printed to know if they've accepted.

>> No.4310838

>>4310830
They usually send you an e-mail letting you know you'll be included. I've gotten contributor's copies with me in them after they sent me a rejection letter, though.

>> No.4310844

>>4310838
How soon after the deadline do they usually send it?

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>>4308692
bitches please

>> No.4310854

>>4308761
#MOE
#LEWD
#KAWAII
#PLUMP AND STATELY

>> No.4310877
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>>4308740

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbzVZUk__eI&t=42m23s

William Burroughs greets Kenji Sugimoto at his television shop in Lawrence Kansas.

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>> No.4310971
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>> No.4311361

>>4309740
this pic is from a rather amusing story. for those that don't know it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnought_hoax

>> No.4311377
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Henry Miller

>> No.4311381

>>4311377
This guy won

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>>4311377
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf4Vma9O9Xk

Such a glorious old cunt.

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>>4311377

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>>4310728
I like to consider myself an unliterary writer, so I don't smoke.

>> No.4311784

>>4309318
Orwell is an example of a genuinely manly man, unlike Hemingway. Orwell did what he had to do out of a sense of duty.

>> No.4311792

>>4308912
hands fucking down

>> No.4311812
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Always liked this one.

>> No.4311834
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easy peasy

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>>4310613
at least post a better shot

>> No.4311891

>>4309308

Ohmyfuckinggodyes. I can go home now. That's perfect.

>> No.4311906

>>4311812
Before I read the filename, I was thinking that's Rod Serling.

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teheheh

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>>4309308
>>4311891

>> No.4312107

>>4310755
he said literary

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NICE THREAD FAGGOTS!

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>>4312137

>> No.4312481

>>4308912
Looks like Vassily Klitschko, dude's hard

>> No.4312543

>>4309028

I like this description.

There is no way of knowing if Shakespeare was indeed like that, but something tells me that he was. I don't see him as an individual that shunned life away to live a semi-recluse life, or as someone with strange and different tastes.

The problem with the majority of writers is that they actually develop a taste for literature because they liked, since childhood, to stay locked in their rooms, reading and seeing few people. Then when they grow up they decide to become writers themselves, however they have almost no life experience. Then, they search their autistic brains and end up creating stories full of bizarre and uncommon situations. Their material is, above all else, the other books that they have been reading since infancy, and not the world of the living.

>> No.4312553
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All these authors smoke

Will smoking make me a better writer?

>> No.4312567

>>4312553

probably, it does help concentration to a small degree and can help with mundane work.

>> No.4312569

>>4312553
>>4312567
>not being the first successful writer to pose with an e-cig in your minimalist high rise apartment

>> No.4312575
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Derrida has many gems.

>> No.4312577

>>4308692
Is this a deliberate Camus joke or is Hitchens even more pathetic than I thought?

>> No.4312590
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4312590

"I hate photography because it creates an ideal of the author and all of my work is an attempt to deconstruct that" - Jacques "Duckface" Derrida

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Eat shit, Hemingway.

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>>4312575
isn't this the same guy who is all "urr i am so shy, i dont like my looks, no pictures, please, i'm terrified of cameras, etc,

if that's the case why do all of his pictures look like they were taken in a glamourshotz studio

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>>4312575

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>>4312604

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Not sure if I respect anyone not posing with a bucket.

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I really like this one.

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Ian Fleming

>> No.4312754
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Graham Greene

>> No.4312759

>tfw you realise all authors are narcissistic cunts

>> No.4312767

>>4312749
wemeetagainmrBond/10

>> No.4312777

>>4312767
>that home bar

jelly as fuck

>> No.4312782

>>4312696
>foucault when discussing deliberately infecting unknowing young men with HIV with his deranged killer faggot cult

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>>4312782

>> No.4312880

>>4309917
The artist takes the picture at that moment because it looks "deep" and "thoughtful".

>> No.4312882

>>4312696
>Foucault describing the size of his step-daughters breasts as, "about a handful"

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>> No.4312953

>>4311784
Agreed. Same goes for Tolkien but he's already been posted.

>> No.4312978

>>4312670
lol

this grandpa...

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>> No.4313032

>>4310728
>>4310742

Not really, writers between that time would have been born between 1900 and 1970. A time period in which practically everybody smoked anyway.

Also, smoking is a very enjoyable past time. Everybody is so concerned with anti-image these days they seem to find fault with anything.

>> No.4313033

>>4312892
does he ever smile

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>>4313033
thingken of stalin

>> No.4313100

>>4313032
So is having a wank, but you don't see the intelligentsia desperately trying to get caught in the act in a cool black and white shot.

>> No.4313109

>>4313100
Because that would become pornography.

>> No.4313123

>>4313100
lot of trouble

>> No.4313502

>>4311838
We're not allowed to.... You could get reported for a four day long two day ban.

It wasn't me if it happens.

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>imposing new standard for this thread...

>> No.4314607

>>4309566
old age and sickness really brings out the jew

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>combo

>> No.4314632

>>4309028
upvoted

>> No.4314647

>>4312543
>There is no way of knowing if Shakespeare was indeed like that, but something tells me that he was. I don't see him as an individual that shunned life away to live a semi-recluse life, or as someone with strange and different tastes.

You can tell that he was by the way he deals with the poet in Julius Caesar. I think there's some kind of crisis going on and a poet tries to lecture Brutus about love and Brutus dismisses him as a ridiculous fool. That basically sums up what Shakespeare thought about art --- that it's beneath the dignity of kings, that it's NOT the point of civilization as a 19th century aesthete might try to convince you.
Pascal said that real philosophers make light of philosophy (because they understand that philosophy is really limited and vain. Plato did this constantly. At the end of many dialogues Socrates concludes with saying, "well, I don't think we've really managed to achieve much in our labours here".) Real artists make light of art, because they know how vain it is. They know that the point of art isn't to be great, but to enshrine a higher greatness. Shakespeare's sonnets are full of this. He's always struggling with the idea of capturing the beauty of his beloved in his poetry/art, always anxious that it is insufficient. "So long as men can breath and eyes can see / So long lives this and this gives life to thee." I also imagine that he was fairly "introverted", fairly private. His sonnets exemplify this quality more than anything --- he's always taking stock of his emotions, which is surely a sign of the typical introvert.

>> No.4314657

>>4314601
>mist over his eyes

Sums up modern art quite well.

>> No.4314674

>>4314647
It's true that Shakespeare's sonnets often mention beauty as something that can be made permanent through poetry, and the power of the poetry to do that as being dependent on the skill of the poet (himself). However, between sonnets he shifts perspectives/confidence from being anxious and meek in one to essentially bragging about his skills (" I love you the most and i can prove that because I write the best love sonnets so fuck me" etc [Source:Sonnet 130]) even sometimes a massively egotistical false modesty. Shakespeare was very aware of his popularity and ability.

What you say about vanity of philosophers and writers is true, but I see the theme of 'enshrining somebody's beauty as difficult' as more of the author transcendatalising their subject's beauty - describing them as beyond description etc etc.

shrug.

>> No.4314715
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The Blind Poet.

>> No.4316196

>>4309028
>>4312543
>>4314647
>>4314674

One of the portraits of Shakespeare that, to me, seem to be the most real and likely to be true is the one created by Anthony Burgess in his novel, "Nothing Like the Sun".

Whenever I think about Shakespeare, I think in the Shakespeare created by Burgess. Since we don't have any information about the poet's real tastes and inner life, I think on him by using Burgess Shakespeare.

Something tells me that Burgess hit Bull's Eye in that portrait.

>> No.4316376

>>4316196
>"Nothing Like the Sun".

Non of you guys have read this book? :(

I really wished to discuss it.

>> No.4316420

>>4308692
you

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>> No.4317086

>>4317029
>tfw when you will never be the landlord of a brothel like Faulkner with enough quiet in the morning to write and enough social activity in the evening to keep from being bored.

>> No.4317101

>>4317086
>landlord of a brothel

The fuck?

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>> No.4317171

>>4317101
"Art is not concerned with environment either; it doesn't care where it is. If you mean me, the best job that was ever offered to me was to become a landlord in a brothel. In my opinion it's the perfect milieu for an artist to work in. It gives him perfect economic freedom; he's free of fear and hunger; he has a roof over his head and nothing whatever to do except keep a few simple accounts and to go once every month and pay off the local police. The place is quiet during the morning hours, which is the best time of the day to work. There's enough social life in the evening, if he wishes to participate, to keep him from being bored; it gives him a certain standing in his society; he has nothing to do because the madam keeps the books; all the inmates of the house are females and would defer to him and call him “sir.” All the bootleggers in the neighborhood would call him “sir.” And he could call the police by their first names.

So the only environment the artist needs is whatever peace, whatever solitude, and whatever pleasure he can get at not too high a cost. All the wrong environment will do is run his blood pressure up; he will spend more time being frustrated or outraged. My own experience has been that the tools I need for my trade are paper, tobacco, food, and a little whiskey."

>> No.4317246

>>4308769
God, John Fante is such a good author.

>> No.4317425

>>4309315
Oh, now I understand the Shotgun Karaoke cover.

>> No.4318218

>>4308749
See. It's actually pretty easy.

Pro tip: Hitchens is (was) a hack and everybody who's even remotely educated knows it.

Pro tip: reading nothing but the New Yorker and Vanity Fair does not make you educated.

Pro tip: Hitchens couldn't handle Oxford, and even when he was attending he consistently received 3rds.

>> No.4318230

>>4308763
>but the picture is good
No its not, he looks like the poster child for a fedora meme.

>> No.4318245

>>4309131
>Why would a world famous chess player pose next to a chess set?
>Totally the same as hemmingway taking a thousand pictures of himself drinking wisky shirtless

To think of it in facebook terms, Fischer would have maybe two hundred photos, all tagged and taken by someone else, of him at various chess events/nazi rallies. Hemmingway would have thousands of himself taken in the mirror flexing his muscles and smoking a cigar in some leather fedora.

>>4309119
Is that a mugshot? God damn the wigster is handsome

>> No.4318258

>>4308692
>smoking

too cliché

>> No.4318270

>>4318230
That's exactly what he is though.

>> No.4318285
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You can't find a writer more qt than this guy

>> No.4318290
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>>4318285
Yes I can. In a heartbeat.

No one's hotter/cooler than Dick. Oh my. The things I would do to Dick.

>> No.4318302

>>4318290
>neckbeard
>hideous sunglasses
>awkward look at the camera
>beta polo shirt

2/10 would not bang

>> No.4318311

>>4309346
There's nothing wrong with an old man who needs a little aid every now and then. Dude fought in the trenches and lost his v card to a girl five years older at a time when most men would prematurely ejaculate at the sight of a lady's ankles. He then married her. Based Tolkien.

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>>4318285

>> No.4318319
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>> No.4318321

>>4318319
he's a redhead btw

>> No.4318343

>>4318302
Aw. You fool. It's all about the mindfucks anyway. It's just hard to not have the metaphysical spill over into the physical, you see. Hehe.

>> No.4318346

>>4309752
Stap. Lovecraft...PLEASE STAP

>> No.4318349

>>4311838
is this real

>> No.4318355

>>4314601
Look how fucking small his tie his. What a guy.

>> No.4318367

>>4308912
>>4308912
What I love about the constructivists is how little they look like modern artists. Rodchenko and Maykovsky look like they might beat you up.

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>> No.4318434

>>4318367
Well it is kind of the unthinking man's futurism.

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>> No.4318616

>>4318456
kawaii~

>> No.4318817
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derp

>> No.4318830
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4318830

>>4308692

/thread

>> No.4318838

>>4309566

Not so smug about God anymore eh? That'll teach ya to run your filthy mouth about my awesome God.

>rage on

>> No.4318848

>>4311812

Should have been a model. I don't find him to be that great a writer, sorry.

>> No.4318850

>>4312696

"I got this by the ass!"

>> No.4318853

>>4314657

It ain't mist, it's just FUCKING THICK. Aldous was virtually blind.

>> No.4319353

>>4318838
"I burned the candle at both ends, and it gave a lovely light"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-JvgwPTlv4

Quite "smug" actually, to the very end. But you knew that.

>> No.4319382

>>4318830

See:

>>4309095

>> No.4319428
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>>4311812
Aging will destroy you.

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>>4319428

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>>4318391

>> No.4319561

>>4319435
I have the strangest feeling I've seen this before.

>> No.4319580

>>4309152
I disagree completely. People often take portraits with the things that have become important to them. It's a part of having a portrait become more than just a way of showing of your corporality. Hemmingway was fond of boxing, firearms and heavy drinking. He was in the army and these things formed a part of him far before his image of "stoic nobility associated with the masculinity he wanted to radiate" began being created. It was different times, and he has always come off as an honest man to me. He died drinking and doing the things that you claim he only did to boast his persona. Perhaps he just enjoyed them.

>> No.4319598

>>4314611
Johnny Galecki, is that you?

>> No.4319617
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4319617

>>4309113
This and André Breton

>> No.4319616

>>4319561
it's not that strange, it's from a monty python sketch

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