/lit/ - Literature

he claims to "know about" classical music on /mu/. he's racist, anti-semitic, and extremely ugly.

No, people who attempt to make their alter-egos known are pathetic and shallow on such a level I can only meet them with mockery.

Interestingly a prevalent theme among them is liking classical music, 'hard' literature or other things that they deem will make them come off as tasteful and intelligent, it's really quite useless.

>>4983056
he has good taste in popular music; in classical he's shitty tho.
Sincerly,
ex-/mu/tant

Why do you keep following me, /mu/? I left you and I never want to see you again.

>>4983060
isn't this part of his character though? i don't browse /mu/ as much as i did but something tells me it's all a troll attempt at a very gullible board

Don't expect him to read, he is too busy to keep in check his superficial movie and music tastes. Obviously he would answer with some classics and maybe pick some vogue book if you will ask such question.

Teenage hipsters from /mu/ ruined this board.

>>4983056
he's alright at talking about music, his opinions on film and literature are pretty standard "self styled patrician forms opinions about stuff he barely knows about" though

>>4983072
Why'd you leave /mu/?

>>4983079
It was and will be such. Follow the discussion and ignore the kids.

>>4983065
>in classical he's shitty tho
>implying

>>4983089
It's just horrible. There are a few nice people there who are interested in discussing music, but the vast majority is only interested in insulting others, baiting others into heated off-topic discussions, and demonstrating their alphaness. There's also too much waifu shit and unnecessarily strong opinions about contemporary artists. It's just annoying

>>4983072
This, fukken this. /mu/ really ruined this board.

>>4983110
>leaving /mu/ because he kept losing arguments

>>4983081
What are his favorite films and books, and why are they bad?

>>4983108
I'll bet he took all of those from scaruffi.com

>>4983116
here's his list of favorite books

>>4983120
Nope, just from his own knowledge.

>>4983113
>greentext that has nothing to do with what the person you're quoting said

yeah, standard /mu/tant right here


/mu/ is a scourge, it is to music as /x/ is to the paranormal. It's a bad joke riddled with irony and insincerity.

who /mu/ here

>>4983116
he'll be here soon and he can tell you himself

iirc he loves bergman and the brothers karamazov

they aren't bad, but i don't think he's read much, or watched too many films. idgaf about film though so whatever

>>4983108
>no verdi
>no puccini
>no rachmaninoff
utter pleb

>>4983123
Tell me more, CLT.

>>4983123
put your trip on dude

>>4983128
>implying that's not the truth

>>4983128
>nooo they don't like my dumb cock-rock

>>4983137
the first honest-to-god /mu/ post

>>4983137
As >>4983130 illustrates, /lit/ is pretty much out of its element where music is concerned.

As >>4983124 illustrates, apparently the same goes for books.

>>4983128
>dadrock
At least Taylor Swift is a qt.

>>4983143
so tell us about your favorite books

>>4983143
My favorite composers are Ondrej Adamek, Iannis Xenakis, Alberto Ginastera, Sylvano Bussotti, Beat Furrer, Armando Corridore, Pierre Jodlowski, Philippe Hurel, Joel-Francois Durand, Yoshihisa Taira, Marc Andre, Richard Barrett, Niccolo Castiglioni, Salvatore Sciarrino, Romuald Grinblat and Iancu Dumitrescu. HOw about you?

>>4983127
>as /any topic board/ is to any topic

>>4983144
that's a funny way to spell goddess

>>4983145
I don't maintain a formal list or anything like that.

>>4983151
Haha you stereotype

>>4983156
her teeth are too big

>>4983145
Expect him to compile list no short of vague artists which "didn't get their rightful attention", then taking a long time to post an answer to further questions, and finally leaving, since being knowledgeable in superficial tastes doesn't work the same way as having some knowledge of what you read.

>>4983159
that's a funny way to spell breasts

>>4983164
>tastes
Why are plebeians so obsessed with the concept of "taste"?

>>4983158
>compiles lists of musical works taking less time time to complete than books
>can't write which authors he enjoys

You better be running back to /mu/

>>4983173
whats your fav anime?

>>4983173
>contradicting himself

>>4983176
Wow you're mad as hell, and on top of that, using a strawman. Just how insecure are you? Oh wait I already know, enough to not put up a decent rebuttal.

>>4983158
>I don't maintain a formal list or anything like that.
well just tell us some

im not trying to fight you im just curious

hrm, I wonder what would happen of this guy met Rapture or Deep&Edgy....

>>4983176
>lists of musical works taking less time time to complete than books
?

No one asked me about my favorite authors.

>>4983179
I don't really watch anime.

>>4983181
[citation needed]

>>4983124
>Hemmmingway

>>4983186
i want him and feminister to argue about politics

>>4983187
>No one asked me about my favorite authors.
im askin' now fran

>>4983187
You sound like a nerd to me. I'm unimpressed

>>4983186
I know, CLT's personality is so colorful and strong spoken that you can't help but admire his dedication to actually engaging in arguments.

>>4983186
He would get his shit pushed in in literature, then proceed to push theirs in music.

>>4983205
I think they would all just be insufferable faggot but whatever

>>4983185
The Brothers Karamazov is my favorite book. After that it's hard to compile a Top X because how are you supposed to weigh a collection of Kafka short stories against a Diana Wynne Jones novel? Barely the same medium.

To say nothing of playwrights. I directed three Beckett plays in high school, but should they be on the list? And if they are, why Beckett and not Sondheim?

>>4983186
D&E came to /mu/ in 2010 and I summarily chased him off.

>>4983194
Favorite authors or favorite writers? Because it'd be different.

>>4983213
you should read more

literature is the one true patrician medium don't you know

read tolstoy

This thread is a testament to the wayward, frail egos that come here seeking acceptance. Seriously re-evaluate your lives.

>>4983213
>brothers karamozov
Good man. Are you a Christian by any chance? I couldn't imagine anyone holding that book to be a favorite not be one with the philosophical nature it brings.

>>4983213
what have you read of

shakespeare
homer
dante
montaigne
joyce
goethe
milton
chaucer
pynchon
whitman
proust
tolstoy

this is my metric

>>4983219
That reminds me, I would have forgotten Turgenev if I'd made a top-of-head list.

>>4983227
Who gives a shit, this guy's a fag

>>4983220
>This thread is a testament to the wayward, frail egos that come here seeking acceptance.
(Not true, by the way) for one to defend their reputation through argument is a noble act. You do know this is a discussion board, don't you?

>>4983228
What are ur thoughts on Tao Lin?

>>4983227
>shakespeare
a ton, more if you count the plays I've acted in
>homer
Odyssey and Iliad
>dante
Inferno only
>montaigne
I am racist against the French
>joyce
Dubliners and Portrait
>goethe
about a zillion poems
>milton
Paradise Lost
>chaucer
Canterb Tales
>pynchon
nada
>whitman
bunch of poems
>proust
I am racist against the French
>tolstoy
I'll do him after I've read everything by Dosty first

>>4983223
I'm an atheist but I attend church weekly because I like Christians more than atheists.

>>4983240
All I know about him is that he's some sort of meme on your board.

>>4983216
writers

>>4983247
What's your favorite part of the Bible? (this is the true test)

>>4983265
>inb4 job

>>4983247
u got some work 2 do but yer off to a decent start

What kind of car do you drive? What do you usually have for lunch? What's your favorite color? What's your favorite sex position? How tall are you?

>>4983257
Joyce, Salinger, Fitzgerald, Kafka, Dickens, Nietzsche, they spring to mind first.

I can't vouch for anyone who didn't write in English or German.

>>4983265
Impossible to answer. They each fulfill different purposes.
>>4983269
That's a great book. pic related, I own it

>>4983283
>Impossible to answer. They each fulfill different purposes.
Wrong answer. You lose.

>>4983279
Hyundai Sonata, leftovers from dinner, purple, woman prone, 6'1"

This interview is over.

Notice the similar CLT MO of /mu/ threads in this thread. Dissenting anons have both other "anons" like >>4983184 >>4983200 >>4983234 defend him, followed by CLT posting a few minutes after. What a coincidence.

Dude is a shitposting egomaniac.

>>4983283
>lists Joyce
>hasn't read Ulysses or Finnegans Wake

>>4983288
Are you implying he's samefagging?

>>4983288
dropping trip to post this xD

>>4983288
I believe there are legitimate people who suck CLT's proverbial Dick.

However, this does not exempt CLT from faggot status, only reinforces it, as the people who surround him are most likely faggots and he has formed a band of roaming faggots that plague 4chan.

Sage.

>>4983110
Man, /mu/ is the "feels" board par excellence. That's one of the reasons i prefer this board. People here cut that shit on time.

>>4983300
>he has formed a Patrician Council to save the arts boards on 4chan from plebs
ftfy

>>4983300
Let's be honest, he creates musical discussion, that's more than beneficial to a dying board

>>4983144
>Listening music because of qt girls.

Beta incoming.

>>4983300

don't forget to report the OP for off topic

>>4983311
nah
he enforces circle jerking over his specific tastes

Nothing like a good old CLT thread to get the butthurts flowing.

Enjoyed any films lately CLT ?

I like how this shit is still up, lets everyone know /lit/ has no moderation.

>>4983283
if you like joyce you better get to reading ulysses

start now

you should also read gravity's rainbow

>>4983331

report it, it is off topic, once it gets a few reports it'll be gone

>>4983056
>cannabis loving tripfag still a thing
Worse than The Tourist and Benevolent Stranger.

And this is lit related how?

>>4983331
>/lit/ has no moderation
There is moderation, they're just retarded and only delete certain kinds of threads.

>>4983353
>they're just retarded
This.

I've seen them delete history threads, philosophy threads, anti-feminist threads etc.

Thanks a lot mods you guys are the best.

fuck fuck off with this thread

/mu/ is the shittiest board on 4chan and /lit/ is mostly just people from /mu/ doing the same thing nowa fuck off

You can discern the teenagers that came from /mu/.

CLT in comparison to other approval seeking trips takes the better place, and much better than shitpostfly, even I beleave thought the butterugly reads more then the occasional classic to maintain the delusion of "patrician" status.

>>4983335
You're trolling right? The report function is gone.

Le sage.

I'm enjoying all these newplebs who don't realize that /lit/ was originally an offshoot of /mu/. moot literally made /lit/ because there were constant literature threads on /mu/.

>here's your damn book board

>>4983378
>beleave
believe

>>4983346
critically LITerate tripfellow

looks like SOMEone needs to learn how to READ

:/

>>4983386
That's not true I also made lots of literature threads on /a/ and /b/

>>4983378
Your post literally makes no sense. In no instance while reading your post did I believe it came from a cognitively functioning human being.

Let's get this on topic. Is the best PKD book this or Scanner Darkly?

>>4983367
Religion threads, politics threads, they even deleted literature threads. I suppose when someone does it for free you get what you pay for.

>>4983386
Anyway it was actually made because people were email-bombing him. I'm pretty sure he doesn't go to /mu/

>>4983391
>Tripfag worship.
>Off topic thread

How many times you been warned?

>>4983398
It's Ubik.

>>4983403
i'm new to /lit/

:D

>>4983346
lmao that you of all people would complain

>>4983398
>hasn't read The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch

>>4983060
Just like me!!!

>>4983419
>that underdeveloped prose
story was fine

I'm glad he exists because he argued soundly to me that mozart was a great composer who deserved as much attention as bach and beethoven and beat me in an argument. So I actually listened to him and these days he makes up 70% of my listening.

>>4983382

click on the arrow next to the post number dumbass

>>4983414
I'm being tongue-in-cheek, of course.

But seriously. Why do threads like this >>/lit/thread/S4977591
Get deleted so quickly, and this thread, not even a /lit/izen get over 100 replies?

>>4983432
Aww, you're welcome, but I'm only doing God's work.

>>4983386
I actually used to browse /mu/ back then and I don't recall any lit threads. Literature discussion took place on /r9k/ before /lit/ was made.

>>4983430
>underdeveloped prose
>every Dick book ever

seriously even a scanner darkly reads like shit

>>4983486
Bullshit it does. He got better as he went.

>>4983494
Top 3 Beethoven piano sonatas ?

>>4983438
My post got deleted because I compared god to a white-hating black man for holding Eve eating the apple against us for so long. I may have said the word "nigger" also, but seriously . . . go fuck yourself, whoever deleted that.

>>4983498
jesus christ your samefagging is so transparent it's amsuing

>>4983430
all dick books have bad prose tho

>>4983466
That actually says more about him than about you. It seems to me the other one can't make a decent opinion of his own and you're just blabbering your pseudo-intellectual bullshit. He obviously takes the poisoned apple and now your ego is saved. Man, do I pity you and your facade, it must have been bruised so many times and now all that's left is you in your egocentrism and fictional characters lying around you in their paper bodies.

>>4983501
Yawn.

>>4983498
My favorites are top 3: 16 in G, 21in C "Waldstein", and 28 in A

>>4983511
>pseudo-intellectual
I appreciate words like this because of the way they immediately inform me whose opinions I should discount.

>>4983510
tope

CLT, you're a pleb when it comes to comics.

>>4983520
You're only proving the point.

>>4983520
c'mon we both know dick wasn't a good stylist at all

>>4983520
>discount

>>4983156
>Taylor-Swift-Feet
but she has terrible feet.

>>4983247
>i am racist aganst the French
You've said multiple times your fav. Poets are French.

>>4983526
I'm okay with that. Comic books are to the visual arts what romance novels and k-pop are too literature and music respectively. They're just something for sexually awkward people to masturbate to.

>>4983527
>>4983532
tope

>>4983533
>3 a : to leave out of account : disregard

>>4983540
I have not.

>>4983554
come now clt you can't really think he's a good stylist

who else do you think is a good stylist

>>4983564
Joyce

he's generally just an all round unpleasant person to interact with, would not recommend

>>4983554
So, you've never taken the time to read the works of Winsor McCay or Will Eisner? You're loss.

And youve said Watchmen is your favorite comic.

>>4983554

>Comic books are to the visual arts what romance novels and k-pop are too literature and music respectively.

what a ridiculously pompous and ignorant statement.
it builds on a rich history of sequential art
what next, is dance an inferior form of visual art because it's not a movie?

>>4983601
>Winsor McCay
That's not "comic books" and don't be disingenuous.

oh god, he's not going to start posting here regularly is he?

>>4983613
"4chan personalities" post wherever people will give them attention.

>>4983554
How do you feel about Nabokov

>>4983438
>I know I'm a toxic fucking retard, of course

Lol I will never get over how much of an example of a failed, terrible woman you are for the rest of the world. What a bitter retarded fucking shrew you are.

>>4983108
mfw when some classical musician say that list was shit lol

>>4983108
>no Shostakovich

CLT's a fucking moron.

>>4983605
Whatever dude

>>4983640
My /lit/ tripfag exgf is still pestering me to read Lolita

>>4983687
No face yet apparently

>>4983554
>>4983386
>>4983520

>>4983697
>Shostakovich

Fucking hell, butterfly, please delete this shitty thread already. It has bugger all to do with anything remotely related to /lit/ and simply serves as an attention fest for one of the worst trips on /mu/.

This thread is strikingly too un/lit. This thread has not one of the single traits of a /lit/ thread. Where are the philosophical discussions, the author namedrop, the /lit/ memes? This makes me conclude that this thread is filled with samefagging from non /lit/ peoples. It was probably started by this tripfag as well.

>>4983720
CLT is the best trip on /mu/ though

He DID own the fuck out of Hampy one time.

I remember when he was new. He's kind of a pleb but I can see why he'd be impressive to the average /mu/tant.

>Schumann
>not /lit/
Your board demonstrates its ignorance yet again.

>>4983746
>He's kind of a pleb
The irony is that CLT started the patrician/plebeian meme.

>>4983753
That's wrong. He just abused it.

>>4983753
>CLT started the patrician/plebeian meme
He perverted an ironic distinction into a completely serious dichotomy, just to express his "superiority".

from the authors he has namedropped itt he doesn't seem very well read

>>4983741
CLT has yet to beat Hampus in a debate. In fact, I'm pretty sure Hampus stumped CLT and exposed his hypocrisy a few times.

>>4983755
>>4983763
Who made a patriciancore chart earlier than 2010?

>>4983768
#rekt
>inb4 last.fm

>>4983765
I'm sorry I'll try to namedrop obscurer names ;)

>>4983768
I have no recollection of this, Hanpus.

>>4983740
>>4983741
>>4983765

Stop samefagging. This is too obvious. /lit/ does talk like this. No /lit/izen would ever speak nicely of a trip. If you're from /mu/, please go back.

>>4983788

doesnt*

>>4983788
see >>4983297 >>4983513

Face the facts. I'm adored.

Cock Licking Turd

>>4983799
Are you obsessed with dinosaurs or something?

>>4983818
... are you not?

>>4983834

http://ezinearticles.com/?Dinosaurs-and-Their-Appeal-to-Children-on-the-Autism-Spectrum&id=6545650

kek

i just want clt to admit he should read more because literature is the longest and noblest continuous artistic tradition

yo clit rec me some good classical bruh

>>4983842
I had about a zillion of these when I was a kid.

>>4983845
Music predates literature bud
>b-but muh oral tradition
Music predates language. Music predates homo sapiens.

>>4983858
>Music predates language. Music predates homo sapiens.
>it's older, must be better!

>>4983849
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUtutaXRCfk

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5A_FFahysY

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZLjf_m6j0A

>>4983143
>As >>4983124 illustrates, apparently the same goes for books.

but you said your favorite book was TBK, you haven't read lolita or GR, you love salinger and fitzgerald... so what is your problem with this list? that IJ (a book you probably haven't read) is number 1? i dont even really like that book but it's as good as catcher in the rye.

this list is shit but i don't understand why YOU think it's shit

>>4983863
>literature is the longest and noblest continuous artistic tradition
For a board (ostensibly) devoted to literature, you haven't got the best readers here.

>>4983858
the musical tradition does not predate literature. the musical tradition doesn't even go back to the greeks

>but look at these few snippets of greek music
they are not continuous with the current canon the way the iliad is

>>4983863
Holy shit you're getting wrecked right now lol. You just dismissed your own argument. Punch drunk.

>>4983872
that's not me

>>4983124
>Adams Douglas

>>4983871
The canon is just a social construct. Besides, oldest continuous != oldest SURVIVING continuous

Music predates literature, period.

>>4983866
>that IJ (a book you probably haven't read) is number 1?
Actually I had more derision for The Stranger at no 2.

>>4983886
>Music predates literature, period
Good to see you brought your argumentational skills with you.

>>4983887
>literature is the longest and noblest continuous artistic tradition
For a board (ostensibly) devoted to literature, you haven't got the best readers here.

>>4983891
I wasn't the guy who brought the tradition argument, I was merely pointing out that "period" is not an argument.

>>4983886
>Music predates literature, period.
yes but who cares. the canon is what matters. the canon is a social construct... the word "just" is the only reason that makes it sound less important. literature has preserved massively important works of the highest caliber that date back farther than similar works of music. there is no musical piece of the same time period as the iliad of the importance of the iliad, or even close.

Christ he hasn't started his samefagging here as well has he?

>>4983886
>Actually I had more derision for The Stranger at no 2.
lol would you rather replace it with salinger?

what an improvement! so different! one writer for angry high schoolers replaced with another!

>>4983906

Just read the thread, anon. Or simply look at these >>4983872
>>4983849
Samwfagging is rampang itt

>>4983799
No you're not, you're a tragic antihero.

>>4983868
>best readers
Subjective, try harder, faggot.

>>4983899
It is merely an observation of fact.

>>4983904
>yes but who cares
Apparently >>4983845 does.
>literature has preserved massively important works of the highest caliber that date back farther than similar works of music
Not that much further, seeing as how imperfectly they were transcribed and retranscribed. In that way, the "Homer's" Iliad available to us today is scarcely any more authentic than the chant tunes recorded by early Benedictine monks, which were probably derived from ancient Greek, Roman, and/or Hebrew melodies.

>>4983921
Attacking (your perception of) the fans in lieu of attacking the book itself? Wow, it's just like anti-Catcher circlejerks on /mu/

>>4983976
Say, what's your opinion concerning existentialist writers like Sartre, Camus, etcetera?

>>4984013
Utterly tiresome.

>>4984018
Actually read them? Or just complaining because what you heard about them?

>>4984029
I would never complain about something I hadn't read/heard/seen.

>>4984018
...like you?

>>4984033
Yeah, fine, but what did you read of them? Because, if you complain about them as a whole as "tiresome", you're implying you read quasi everything Sartre and Camus have written.

>>4983976
it being older does not mean it has an older tradition... the canon establishes the tradition. without a canon, nobody knows what came before. the canon is what came before, the elements of the tradition. if nobody remembered the literary canon, if all the books we have now were born, the literary tradition would end.

>Not that much further
ope we're done

btw you're overstating the inaccuracy of our current iliad

>>4984048
>if you complain about them as a whole as "tiresome", you're implying you read quasi everything Sartre and Camus have written
What a strange conclusion to leap to.

>>4984064
>born
burnt

who can say why

>>4984066
a) opinion concerning existentialist writers like Sartre, Camus: utterly tiresome
b) never complain about something I hadn't read/heard/seen.

Ergo: Sartre&Camus: tiresome, read. Not specified which works you read and found tiresome, you're implying you read the whole oeuvre.

>>4984064
Your cultish devotion to your Canon and the arbitrary properties you've attributed to it are adorable to me.

>>4984075
>Not specified which works you read and found tiresome, you're implying you read the whole oeuvre.
This is a non sequitur.

>>4984066
nice dodge

Why do you hate the french CLT? I-i'm part french and i love you ;-;

>>4984018
bergman, beckett both liked the stranger

not saying that's an argument that you should like it, but it might be an argument that it's not a terrible, "utterly tiresome" book people should be embarrassed for liking

>>4984101
actually i don't remember if bergman liked the stranger but he did like camus

>>4984095
I have this hunchback feeling you never read any of it, and I'm not alone (=> >>4984096). It's not a non sequitur, I'm not going to elude, I'm going to presume you're just blabbering a little but further and trying to be interesting.

Why is this thread still here?
Since when is a tripfag welcome here?

>>4984114
a little *bit

>>4984091
>Your cultish devotion to your Canon
never demonstrated. i have ambivalent feelings on the canon and believe canons are always flawed.

>the arbitrary properties you've attributed to it
the property of being the works that people continue to experience? how arbitrary to assign the common perception of what the canon is to the canon

>>4984098
Because my exgf of 3 years moved to France and broke my heart.

>>4984101
Meh, they're entitled to their opinions.

>>4984114
You look like you're having so much fun playing with your ad strawminems that I hate to disturb you.

>>4984133
>perception
>reality
>picking two

CLT reveals he doesn't know anything about literature: the thread

Personally I thought he'd do better than Salinger, Fitzgerald, and Philip K. Dick, but I guess I'll just be disappointed. Plus there's the humor of listing Joyce as a favorite author without having read Ulysses.

>>4984138
>Because my exgf of 3 years moved to France and broke my heart
a 9 year trained musician, well read intellectual, despises an entire country because >tfw no gf?
Are you fucking my fucking ass?

>>4984142
>words
>not meaning what people think they mean
wow bravo

>>4984138
I can see why she left you, to be honest. Your evading every question you're asked, or you're condescendingly vague. Would've left you too, even sooner.

>>4984142
You do not add to the board. You subtract from it.

Stop posting. You literally make /lit/ worse.

>>4984145
>well read intellectual
>implying

>>4984144
*favorite writer

>>4984145
Good men have died for less.

>>4984144
>Plus there's the humor of listing Joyce as a favorite author without having read Ulysses.
Why the hell wouldn't you just read it

The man only has a few books how fucking hard is it to read them all

>>4984144
>Salinger, Fitzgerald, and Philip K. Dick
Why are these authors bad? The first two are among the greatest English stylists of 1900-1950, and the third is arguably the greatest science fiction author ever.

>>4984157
maybe it was 2deep4him and he gave up

i bet that's it because like why wouldn't you try, it's the most acclaimed novel of the 20th century

>>4984162
Bad? No. Terrible choices for favorite author? Kind of.

>>4984033
Classic indirect answer.
How you can be this desperate for attention is beyond me. I only hope you get in an argument with someone on this board who is actually smart so he can rip you to shreds. Another tripfag would be ideal, but then we only have one brilliant tripfag in the entire board. Hopefully he'll come out of his cave for this.

>>4984164
He's an autistic retard who has no care for anything but trolling arguments and inserting the word 'canon' as often as possible to appear intellectual.

>>4984149
How can words be real if our thoughts aren't real?

>>4984152
>>4984153
I see we've reached the part of the thread where all counterarguments to mine have been negated and personal attacks will rule the day.

>>4984157
I'd rather just reread Dubliners.

>>4984164
If Joyce was one of his favorite writers why would he give up

clt pls

>>4984175
>How can words be real if our thoughts aren't real?
so deep, man

>>4984170
CLT's favorite author is Dostoevsky. He named them when someone specifically asked about stylists.

>>4984175
>How can words be real if our thoughts aren't real?
glad we're done here

>>4984172
>Classic indirect answer.
Explain how it does not directly answer the query, if you even can.

>>4984180
For a board (ostensibly) devoted to literature, you haven't got the best readers here.

>>4984180
They are worse choices for stylists. Does he not read poetry? Salinger vs. Shakespeare? Fitzgerald vs. Keats, Shelley, Wordsworth? Not to mention how many better stylists in prose there are (Nabokov, Updike, Pynchon, Woolf, Henry James, Melville)

>>4984175
>I'd rather just reread Dubliners.
Just admit you tried to read Ulysses and gave up.

>>4984198
>Salinger vs. Shakespeare? Fitzgerald vs. Keats, Shelley, Wordsworth?
Haha looks like somebody was born in le wrong generation ;)

>>4984204
On my honor I have never so much as glanced at the first page.

Frankly it's too mainstream for me. I tend to prefer authors' relatively obscurer works.

>>4984205
Do you actually think Salinger approaches Shakespeare, Milton, Keats, Shelley, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, Pope, Sterne, Fielding, in quality?

>>4984211
>Frankly it's too mainstream for me. I tend to prefer authors' relatively obscurer works.
This is not /mu/ here, idiot.

>>4984175
>where all counterarguments to mine have been negated and personal attacks will rule the day.

You can't even tell what you read from Sartre and Camus. Don't start crying now, there's not much more to say when you're dodging every argument.

>>4984211
Recognizing the second half of your post as obvious trolling why the hell would you not read Joyce's masterpiece? Are you sure you're not being a "phony" (teehee) and simply pretending he's a favorite to act like you don't only like stuff you got assigned in high school?

ITT: CLT basically plays the equivalent of a person going into a classical general and talking about how epik Tchaikovsky and Mahler are

great farce

>>4984213
About as much as Paul McCartney approaches Mozart (aka with such different goals in mind as to render them all but incomparable in any constructive critical sense).

I'm disappointed in you, /lit/. I've come to expect such a low caliber of reasoning ability from /mu/, but you have a reputation as an "intellectual" board. I see clearly itt that this reputation is unfounded.

Also you have dreadful taste in classical music.

What contemporary authors do you like? By that I mean authors who wrote and published the majority of their work during your lifetime.

>>4984237
>clt admits defeat

>>4984213
Have you actually critically read all the authors you're namedropping?

>>4984237
This thread is comprised entirely of your sort. Just fuck off back to /mu/, all of you.

>>4984237
Don't you see you're lowering the intellectual level? Didn't this thread show you you're not wanted here as a tripfag? Are you going to tell us now what you actually read from Sartre or Camus, or is that a question too unintelligent for you?

>tfw i just read this entire thread
why

clt was doing ok for a while and then this thread became the the bacchanalian revel, where not a member is sober

>>4984033
>I would never complain about something I hadn't read/heard/seen.
>>4984188
>Explain how it does not directly answer the query, if you even can.

Direct answers:
I have read them. I have not read them. More precise: I have read S, C, etc. I have not read S, C, etc. (Latter parts being malleable)

Your answer:
1. No specification as to which of Sartre, Camus or "etc" you have read, and what you've read of them. What is utterly tiresome? What is it, my friend? Let us continue as this is not the actual point.

2. You would never complain about something you hadn't read/heard/seen.

You introduce a conditional here, and that is why it is an indirect answer. It is entirely possible for you to believe "utterly tiresome" is not, contrary to what the previous poster mentioned, a complaint. It might be very likely that this is indeed a complaint, but that is not the point. It is indirect because you unknowingly (or dishonestly) add ambiguity (however slight it may be) to your answer. Which is exactly the phenomenon observed in liars uncomfortable with telling an outright lie.


Very simply:

Is A the case?
Direct answer: A/~A
Indirect answer: B>A, where B is ostensibly obvious.

Please, get out of our yard.

>>4984217
Could have fooled me, double-idiot.

>>4984220
Commanding me to type out a list isn't an "argument", sweetheart, and refusing to comply with something so tiresome is the common sense response.

>>4984223
Ironically, I first read Dubliners when it was assigned in high school, but was never assigned my actual favorite novel.

By all means, though, carry on with the argumentum ad strawminem. You're covering yourself in glory itt ;)

>>4984246
Yes

>>4984255
I didn't give an argument I asked a question

>Me: "Hey, are you British"
>You: "FUCKIN STRAWMAN NO I'M NOT"

>>4984254
>Actually read [Camus and Sartre]?
Was the original query, which I unambiguously answered in the affirmative. Nice try, though, albeit rather wordy.

>>4984254
Ch... chopan?

>>4984264
>Hates French writers
>Reads Sartre AND Camus

You people actually argue with this guy? You should know better.

>>4984273
i just want him to admit he needs to read more

please go back to /mu/ you retarded faggot

>>4984262
>What is an implicit accusation?

>>4984249
I have raised the intellectual level.

>>4984247
I've been looking at other threads and they are filled with equally vapid posters.

>>4984239
I used to read every Discworld book as soon as it came out, beginning in 6th grade or so

um, so why hasn't this been deleted?

>>4984280
>What is an implicit accusation?
Are you accusing me of implicit accusing you

starman

Wow /lit/ you approach CLT with questions, he genuinely answers with sound reason, and you ridicule him followed by saying he's shitting up the board.

YOU approached him

>>4984280
>terry fuckin pratchett
>better than pynchon and roth

>>4984254
God damn.
>>4984264
Bro I like you, but on this one you taunted an answer out of the wrong poster, and now you look like a retard trying to defend yourself. Nobody's perfect.

>>4984280
>I have raised the intellectual level.
You're the only one that carries that opinion. You're like the proud monkey throwing shit at everyone.

>>4984271
see >>4984033
>I would never complain about something I hadn't read
Is this really such a difficult concept for so many of you?

>>4984278
Music is the superior medium.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6B_YFry2og
Nothing in the written word can convey this.

>>4984287
Before you try and say that it was samefagging, you should have been mature about it and ignore the thread. This could have been avoided easily but your anonymous reputation is so important that you goaded him on, fuck you /lit/

There is only one way to tell if a man is truly patrician. CLT, who is your favorite pornstar?

>>4984287
who approached him? the OP doesn't call for him, and his first post insults /lit/s taste in books. people are pushing his shit in because he has even shittier taste. he didn't walk in here like a nice guy and start giving out candy

>>4984295
>trying to rate entire artforms
no CLT, you ARE the plebeians

>>4984295
why does that mean you shouldn't read more

>>4984295
You haven't read shit from Sartre, Camus, admit it or at least tell us what you read from them so this discussion can go any further than "I find them tiresome (but I won't tell you why)"

>>4984298
Why are plebeians obsessed with "taste"? Is it because they lack the critical capacity to articulate why my favorite books are bad? Would one of you like to tell me why TBK reflects poorly on me as a favorite book.

>>4984287
/lit/ isn't actually any different from /mu/, save for a faint hint of self-awareness on the part of the latter.

clt you should probably go now my nigga you got cum all over yo face

im pretty sure you pretty clearly got styled on in every argument thread still going on

i respect yo music opinions but gtfo before you look like more of a fool

>>4984310
>you pretty clearly got styled on in every argument thread still going on
[citations needed]

Meanwhile I predict no direct rebuttals to >>4984309 .

>>4984309
i have no beef with tbk, i have beef with you saying /lit/ is out of its element discussing books when you've barely read anything. mark up that top 100 books with what you've read, let's see it

>>4984254
rekt
This reads like /lit/'s praetorian guard, making sure idiotic attention-whores are put on their ass before they shit up the whole board. We are forever in your debt.

>>4984320
That would be tedious as I've read most of them.

>>4984319
nigga just go i've never seen yo ass this mad b4

>>4984320
This, you don't come into a board, shit up it's entire purpose and then just expect nobody to start getting on top of you

>>4984328
Did you mean to quote >>4984329 ?

>>4984326
>never read lolita
>never read ulysses
>never read pynchon
>never read faust
>never read complete divine comedy
>never read tolstoy
>never read leaves of grass
>never read proust
>never read montaigne
>thinks he knows shit about literature

>>4984335
I guess you have nothing else planned for today but shitposting on /lit/.

>>4984335
don't get hostile with me man, i'm just trying to help you

don't want you to be remembered as the guy who got fucked up this bad, you got some cool ass opinions sometimes

>>4984335
on a side note when is Patricancore 2014 coming

>>4984339
>muh high school reading list
We don't all treat art like a laundry list to be competed.

>>4984347
that would be an amazing high school

>>4984342
Actually I'm singing a concert of mid-Renaissance music tonight. Josquin, Brumel, the list goes on.

>Explain how it does not directly answer the query, if you even can
>>4984254
>>4984264

Oh my god that is your comeback? That's a case of ass whooping if I've ever seen one. The best part is that you taunted him first, and now you look like an imbecile. I truly doubt you can comprehend most of literature if this is all your intellect can muster.

Screecapped for future generations.

>>4984347
since you haven't read that high school reading list, does that mean you haven't graduated high school?

>>4984352
Your new name fits you

>>4984347
What do you have against people recommending things to each other?

>>4984345
He's going to change subjects at this point. It would look bad if he abandoned the thread right after getting trashed.

>>4983124
That's a solid list to be honest.

Welcome to /lit/ CLT.

>>4984326
full of it, if you haven't read these >>4984339 i don't know why you would have read "most" of the rest

why would you have read all those books instead of ulysses, the magnum opus of one of your favorite writers

>>4984356
A: I would never complain about something if I hadn't read it.
B: I have complained about Sartre and Camus.
C: Ergo, I have read them.

It's logically unambiguous.

>>4984368
lol that's not his

and he trashed it

>>4984375
Why? You hate French writers...

>>4984366
gotta feel for the guy at this point... for trips losing arguments is pretty hard, and he's got styled on in like 5 itt alone

they can't just shake it off like anons can, ya dig? they have a reputation

>>4984373
Ulysses is too mainstream for me. I have said this before.

>>4984358
I sparknoted high school reading unless it was something that actually interested me. Otherwise it would have cut into pleasure-reading.

Aced English class anyway, heh.

>>4984388
>too mainstream for me
*tips scarf*

>>4984375
why is it so hard for you to say what you've read by them

>>4984388
what do you have against mainsteam works? I thought popularity did not matter.

>>4984388
>Ulysses is too mainstream for me. I have said this before.
yeah but that's not the real answer. why won't you give the real answer

>>4984387
>he's got styled on in like 5 itt alone
[citations needed]

It honestly feels like some of you believe if you repeat something enough times it will magically become true.

>>4984384
No, I hate the French. But I read the existentialists in high school before my prejudices had crystalized, as do most angsty teens.

>>4984397
>clt actually believes that if he just keeps responding people will forget that he lost like every argument ITT

>>4984392
>Why won't you type up a long tedious list to satisfy my whims?
You're inordinately obsessed with me.

>>4984396
>>4984394
>>4984391
I tend to prefer authors' relatively obscurer works. I'm sorry that this upsets you.

>>4984408
>I tend to prefer authors' relatively obscurer works. I'm sorry that this upsets you.
how do you know if you haven't read ulysses

>>4984404
>he lost like every argument ITT
[citation needed]

>>4984408
Can you at least explain why?

>>4984412
This post bears no logical relation to mine.

>>4984408
lol we all know the list would be 2-4 elements long be real

>>4984414
Yes, but it would fall on deaf ears and we're at bump limit anyway.

>>4984408
>tbk
>relatively obscurer
you mean his recognized magnum opus?

>>4984426
I'm the one asking the question, i would not ask it if i wasn't going to listen, this is what i think is you problem when discussing things, you give people an idea, and you never say why you think of this idea.

>>4984426
you're never coming back after this thread right?

wouldn't want to get embarrassed again

>>4984427
C&P is more famous.

>>4984435
Sorry. PM me if you want

>>4984437
Why would it embarrass me to win another thread like this one?