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So, I've got to the end of the pay week and miraculously haven't spent forty dollars on cigarettes or fast food yet. As I always do when I find myself in this pretty rare circumstance, I'm going to buy some books.

I've been feeling the cyberpunk recently, having been feeling particularly jaded and in bad humor- even by my standards. I need some Blade Runner-esque technoir to wallow in.

I don't know what's truly good in the genre though, anyone have an recommends? I'm not too big on whacky cyber-ninjas wielding light blades; sticking it to the evil corporation who hack into peoples minds; I don't want shit that reads like fan fiction.

Is Neuromancer any good? Is Philip K. Dick really the master of the genre? Any pointers would be great, I'll prob buy a couple.

>> No.5143533

>>5143468
Hello, friend.

I've been feeling the same recently as well. Listening to early bloops, mainly Detroit Techno and Chicago House and started reading some sci-fi again instead of the usual lit-fiction stuff I usually read.

Philip K. Dick is probably is the master of the genre, especially if you are looking for stuff that doesn't "read like fan fiction" (though I'm of the opinion that sci-fi and good prose rarely mutually occur). If you are looking for Blade Runner-esque feels, definitely cop Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, which is what the movie is based off of. A Scanner Darkly is good for drug-related feels and feels p contemporary in nature. I'm reading Ubik right now and it's pneat. Going to read Flow My Tears the Policeman Said next.

Gibson is credited with 'creating' the genre, but his prose is so god-awful I could not ever rec. Stephenson is also apparently pgood, but haven't read him yet.

Gonna monitor this thread for more recs by other anons.

Also, watch Serial Experiments Lain if you are into animu. Cyberpunk as an aesthetic translates really well into animu/film.

>> No.5143537

>>5143468
Neuromancer's pretty good. If you're looking for cyberpunk, start there, because it's pretty much the starting point of the whole genre. There are a few more books by the same author that fit the genre.

There's also Snow Crash, but that's kinda late in the Cyberpunk game, and it's kinda silly. Ironic, jokey silly, with a plot to back it up, but still not as grim and serious and other stuff in the genre. Pretty well regarded as part of the genre, overall.

Dick didn't really write any cyberpunk, Do Androids Dream links him to it via Blade Runner's aesthetics, and that's why he's associated with it. He actually died before cyberpunk became a thing.He's still pretty paranoid and anti-establishment, though, so give him a try.

>> No.5145377

>>5143468
Bump for interest.

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>>5143468
>I've been feeling the cyberpunk recently...

YOU ARE UNCONSCIOUSLY SENSING THE THIRD WAVE OF THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ZEITGEIST.

>> No.5145455

>>5145402
You're amazing, you know that? You're the only tripfag who has ever managed to make me hate every post they've ever made. Great job. 10/10. This is a good use of your time.

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bump

>> No.5147193

>>5146409
bump.

>> No.5147199

>>5143468
Get an e-reader, it's more cyberpunk.

>> No.5147202

>>5145402
What are the first two waves, Ray?

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>>5147202

FIRST WAVE: CIRCA YEAR NINETEEN EIGHTYTWO TO NINETEEN NINETYFIVE.

SECOND WAVE: CIRCA YEAR NINETEEN NINETYEIGHT TO TWOTHOUSAND FOUR.

THIRD WAVE: CIRCA YEAR TWOTHOUSAND TEN -.

>> No.5147221

>>5147215
What makes those specific eras significant? What happened at those times?

>> No.5147241

>>5147221

THE WAVEFORM THAT IS THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ZEITGEIST EXPERIENCED A SURGE AT EACH OF THOSE PERIODS, MANIFESTING ITSELF VIA SOCIOCULTURAL TRENDS, AND SCIENTIFIC DEVELOPMENTS.

>> No.5147277

>>5147241
Why am I reading this in Icarus' voice.

>> No.5147290

>>5147277
I read it in a really nasal Strong Bad with lots of perverse heavy breathing.

>> No.5147318

>>5147290
I read it in a screaming man's voice like he's just a few words from running out of breath all the time.

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5148182

>>5143533
> his prose is so god-awful

This guy is a fucking troll

Here are some recs:
Neuromancer-Trilogy (funny how people stop reading after the first book, it's a trilogy)
Burning Chrome
Snow Crash
A Scanner Darkly

>> No.5148195

>>5143468
>Is Neuromancer any good?
Just fuckin read it dude.

>> No.5148201

>>5143468
Islands in the Net (post-cyberpunk with good bits on data havens, post-colonial uprising, good use of technology, etc.)
When Gravity Fails (transsexuals)
Cyberabad Days (post-Cyberpunk in India, short stories, very good)

>> No.5148209

>>5143533
>Also, watch Serial Experiments Lain if you are into animu. Cyberpunk as an aesthetic translates really well into animu/film.

>anime
>not GitS

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>>5147241
He must know what he's talking about, guize.
Let's pay attention to teh technology.

>> No.5148217

>>5148201
as for other forms of art:
google Twin Peaks Witch House (an album of witch house remixes of the TP soundtrack, not actually Cyberpunk probably, you might like Com Truise better in that respect)
Oni, pc game Ghost in the Shell ripoff

>> No.5148220

>>5143468
>Is Neuromancer any good?
It doesn't have incredible literary merit, but it is very important for the genre. Also Inception is basically a late-post-cyberpunk adoption of Neuromancer.

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>>5148209

HELLO?

"GHOST IN THE SHELL" IS NOT "CYBERPUNK", BUT "HARD SYFY".

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>>5148220
> Inception is basically a late-post-cyberpunk adoption of Neuromancer.

>> No.5148226

>>5143468

River of Gods, Ian Mcdonald. Check it out. I'm not sure if its strictly cyber-punk, but Dick isnt either. Nano-tech and AI in India. Sort of like how The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson is Nano-tech wars in China, but better.

>> No.5148235

Fuck why isn't there some book about a young guy who lives in the shadows of a cyberpunk world ? Just something that chronicles the days of some drifter in a dark and strange place.

>> No.5148241

>>5148235
That's what i'm writing right now. A teenager living all alone in a gigantic cyberpunk city, just trying to survive

b-but i'm only 3 pages in

>> No.5148247

>>5148235
b-but muh science...

>> No.5148252

>>5148226
>I'm not sure if its strictly cyber-punk, but Dick isnt either.
I suggested Cyberabad Days instead of RoG because the short story collection format makes it more accessible and varied. Both are post-Cyberpunk, but in slightly different ways than Islands in the Net or Snow Crash. The tech level is basically the same as Neuromancer, but instead of jaded loners, the protagonists are 'normal people' and the effects of AI on everyday life etc. are fleshed out.

>> No.5148253

>>5148241
w-what book?

>> No.5148255

>>5148253
I mean what are you going to call it? so that I can find it when you release it

>> No.5148277

>>5148235

Try Necroville by Ian Mcdonald. Or Feersum Endjinn, Ian M Banks

>> No.5148288

>>5148252

Cool, I'll have to check it out, thanks for the tip.

>> No.5148308

>>5148182
No, he's not. Gibson is so far up his own ass that halfway through the book he just straight up gives up on writing the scene. Every page is like reading a second-hand account of a drunk man. Gibson may have defined the genre and the world is fascinating and creative, but his writing style and prose is so god-damned awful that I salute you for having to suffer through that terribly written trilogy

>> No.5148318

>>5148308
>Every page is like reading a second-hand account of a drunk man.
Maybe that's because the focal character is severely drugged?

>> No.5148482

>>5148195
Yea it's a thin book from memory. But the deeper fucking point is what exactly are you doing on /lit/?

>> No.5148492

>>5148255
Barry Clotter and The Scientist's Beaker