/lit/ - Literature

>>5763183
Nihilists are weaklings because their logic is terrible
>Nothing is right or true or purposeful
>Don't you all see that?
>Nihilism is true
>It's not a self-defeating argument, guys!

Some people just want to wallow in self pity. Let them.

>>5763183
youre not making any sense either

nietzsche, perhaps the most known nihilist, found the perspective empowering, liberating, and as you said an opportunity for joy. joy is strength

Nihilists are idiots. It's already been established

>>5763197
Nietzsche was a MORAL NIHILIST, not an existentialistic nihilist, most commonly shortened to 'nihilist'.

>>5763183
I think you don't know what Nihilism is. And even then, most of the Nihilists I know are pretty happy about life and enjoy things.

>>5763197

>OP says most
>names one who said most would never transcend it

Well done shithead, proving OP is not a faggot.

>>5763211
I know I seem to remember Nietzsche absolutely deriding nihilism at times. It's hilarious there are actually people this dumb on /lit/ trying to understand great thinkers.

>>5763183
you don't understand nihilism, nice bait though 4/10 will get some bites

Nihilism is for sociopaths. Anti-natalism is where it's at.

>>5763232

>let me not say what's wrong and return to my self-satisfied cave

Classic /lit/ comment

>>5763243
2/10 you're losing me

>>5763249

>durrr lemme give u points on bait

Please share your pearls of wisdom on the topic of nihilism, oh great anon.

>>5763238
This.

>>5763183
Why be joyful?
Joy is silly - the bible

Because most people think nihilism is a mental disease equivalent to depression and sad man feels rather than a condition that allow for free (joyful/terrifying) play of meanings and interpretation without security.

Your OP doesn't make sense therefore you're dumb as fuck faggot

I'm only responding to tell you you're not worth responding to

no mind, I got enough worth to go round but maybe you need to pick up a fucking book or graduate highschool son next time you want people to read and respond to your shit put some fucking effort into what you're saying otherwise you can literally go find a high place jump and fucking die from the impact you're nothing

>>5763388
>he thinks depression is a mental disease
>he thinks there is a 'correct' state of chemical balance in the brain

le retarded psychologist face

>>5763377
Why does it feel like the Bible is nihilistic somewhat?

Ecclesiastes was the most soul crushing thing I've ever read.

>>5763483

Because it tries to attach objective meaning to life. The term objective meaning is already a misdemeanor, all meaning is subjective.

>>5763479
Is cancer a disease?

>>5763183

>Not suggesting any alternative

What the fuck is a "weakling at life"?

Because nihilism is the philosophy of idiots who are trapped between existentialism and religion.

>>5764183
>inb4 there's no 'correct' state to the human body

>>5763183
Self-declared nihilists are usually hedonists. The real nihilists are the ones preaching to be anything but, offering solutions in the guise of something positive; for example, Christians.

>>5763183
>Why are most nihilists such weaklings at life?
Source?

>>5763479
>medical relativism
Join the depression acceptance.

>>5764183

Did the concept of cancer originate from soft science, or was actual, testable evidence involved?

>>5764593
there isn't. just because that upsets you doesn't mean it isn't so.

>>5764690
>neurobiology
>endocrinology
>soft sciences
>>>/sci/

>>5764690
Neuroscience substantiates depression as a state of the brain.

>>5764705
how could it possibly be anything else?

>>5764712
I don't know, if you're a dualist you might believe emotions don't have a biological underpinning, I suppose? The point is, whether or not there's a "correct" way the brain "should" be, feeling happy certainly feels better than feeling so awful you want to die.

>>5763183
Your thought, or expression thereof, lacks clarity.

Please rephrase your original post.

>>5764728
I disagree. I don't think I could live with myself if I was happy. It strikes me as dishonest and decidedly reprehensible. Unfortunately humans are all about 'feeling good' to the detriment of everything else.

>>5764771
Maybe, but it would still feel better, if it didn't you wouldn't really be happy.

>>5764786
Hence the ending of my post and a big reason why there's a huge amount of suffering. You've just taken your first step towards realism.

>>5764170
Says man who never read a dictionary or Wittgenstein.

>>5764705
>Neuroscience substantiates depression as a state of the brain.

I did try searching, but I wasn't able to verify this. Does anyone have a source? Also, is this state substantiated as abnormal? And are we talking about the same definition of depression that most people think nihilism is related to? (per >>5763388)

>>5763238
Anti-natalism is for frustrated virgins pretending not to be sociopaths.

>>5764912
>one time an antinatalist gave me a good reason not to make babies but i still want a miniature version of myself so i'll listen to my desire and rationalize the logic away
suit yourself anon, as long as you are aware.

>>5765033
antinatalism is basically final fantasy villain-tier philosophy. shush.

>>5765033
>one time an antinatalist gave me a good reason not to make babies
>Implying one good reason not to do something outweighs the numerous reasons that make it appealing
Sex feels good, propagation of the human species (or of whatever one's own species happens to be) is necessarily desirable, childbirth is miraculous, life is necessarily good, I want the human race to continue to exist, I want to have sex, I can accept the fact that bad things happen but still think life isn't bad, the list goes on.
Enjoy your self-perpetuating misery and angst.

>>5765193
>I can't defeat final fantasy villains because I don't want to spend hours and hours grinding; instead of admitting this very simple and relatable fact I shall proceed to attach supposed negative qualities to final fantasy villains, with the unintended effect that even that thing I don't like gets scorned because of this.
alrighty then

>>5765229
You missed the point of his post and your philosophy is still head-in-asshole retarded.

>>5765227
>is necessarily desirable
for what
>Enjoy your self-perpetuating
>my self-perpetuating
lel

>>5765235
>for what
For the species and the individual.

>>5765233
>It's easier to pretend I'm not retarded if I propagate that others, in fact, do not understand!
ibid

>>5765240
>and the individual
what individual?

>>5765244
Anti-natalism is retarded.

>>5765257
Any individual person. The drive and ability to reproduce is genetically coded into organisms.

>>5765227
It's physically impossible for me to be miserable when I see retarded shit like this to laugh at on an almost daily basis, thanks anon.

>>5765414
You can le xD your fat little heart out on 4chan all you want retard, you'll still be a broken moron no one will ever listen to.

>>5765422
How come you know so much about me, anon?

>>5763183
>absolute rejection of everything
>joyful

I don't know what you think nihilism is, but it doesn't make the world your oyster. It exposes the oyster as being empty and useless.

>>5765428
You need to fit into anon's pigeonholes. I mean, that's what the pigeonholes are for.

>>5765193
>>5765229

KEFKA DID NOTHING WRONG

>>5765511
Kefka wanted to actively annihilate everyone without delay instead of just rendering them sterile or controlling the population decline so that quality of life could be upheld prior to the extinction event - so yeah, he didn't do nothing wrong.

>>5763183
Yeah when I see the word Nihilist I imagine Big Lebowski

>>5765524
>rendering them sterile or controlling the population decline so that quality of life could be upheld prior to the extinction event
Is that you, Israel?

>>5763197
Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist himself. You obviously didn't even bother to read his Wikipedia page.

>>5765227
>Sex feels good
>implying contraception isn't a thing

>propagation of the human species is necessarily desirable
loling rn
even aside from the various arguments that continued reproduction at its current rate is detrimental to the human species, you're ACTUALLY saying that there are objective human values

>childbirth is miraculous
you're adorable

>life is necessarily good
you're seriously so cute. don't ever grow up.

>I want the human race to continue to exist
and it will, regardless of whether you spawn or not

>I want to have sex
you're repeating yourself

>I can accept the fact that bad things happen but still think life isn't bad
of course life isn't necessarily bad. but whether life is bad or not is entirely subjective, you twat.

I'm not even anti-natalist and you're a fucking eejit tbh

>>5765227
If I don't desire the propagation of the species then it is not necessary desirable.
You just need one exception for something to be not necessary.
That's very sloppy thinking.

>>5765193
Natalism is a philistine philosophy though.
Even plato criticized it by pointing out that mediocrities are pregnant in the body while the aristoi are pregnant in the mind.

Great people forgo the ctonic Aphrodite for the life of the mind.

>>5765666
>Natalism
That's not even a thing, though.

>>5765692
It is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfish_Reasons_to_Have_More_Kids

There are people who in addition to breeding wholeheartedly think it's a good thing.

>>5763191
That argument doesn't make any sense. It's like when people say it takes faith to not believe in God.

>>5765227
>be stupid
>want to have kids
>have kids
>kids are stupid
>they want to have kids

and on and on it goes

>be intelligent
>don't have kids

the end

>>5763203
Citation please, i've read some of his works and what I've best gathered is that he is so an existential nihilist

>>5763203
he was no kind of nihilist whatsoever