/lit/ - Literature

>>5914727
pleb-tier

lumpen-tier

read the stoics

Commercial garbage.

>>5914727

That depends anon.

There are general "Here's how some shit works"
and then there "LOL DO THIS AND YOULL BE HAPPY XD".

Your pic shows the latter. There are SOME self-help books that aren't like your pic.

Try 48 laws of power, or 33 strategies of war. They're feel good mixed with "this is some shit that works, here's some shit that doesn't work, and this is some shit that seem to have worked".

It's a mixed bag.

>>5916020
how can one remember those 48 laws or 33 strategies, i think i hardly could remember may be 10

>>5916041
Well you could always re-read, or just get or make a TL;DR for your self.

Otherwise git gut niqqa

Pretty much all self-help stuff seems to be, as was said, commercial garbage. But what if you genuinely what to be a smarter / better / more interesting person? What do you read then?

Actual good books, I guess. Perhaps you'll acquire that which is interesting subconsciously.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to expect an entire, diverse genre to be complete commercial garbage.

Yeah, so there are going to be books that have too much fluff or offer nothing but platitudes. But a lot of these books were worked on by years and some have empirical evidence to back them up.

I've been thinking about this for a while. The only way you can really learn from a book is to remember the advice/philosophy, internalize it, and practice it in real life. Which, honestly, is a lot easier said than done.

You ever read a body language book? And how much do you remember after reading it? Like, 2 things? I think the biggest obstacle people face with the self-help, informational, etc etc genre is that they forget what they read and they only read it once. There's a lot of shit in these books, and humans are notorious for not remembering shit. It takes active work to apply these principles to your life.
If you really want to get something out of a book like this, you need to summarize the important takeaways for yourself. Quiz yourself so that you're remembering. And most importantly, review your actions so you can see what went wrong or right.

>How do you feel about self-help books?

All you need are the Meditations and the Manual.

>people who don't read books criticize them
great thread

The problem I've found is you're all psyched to change while you're reading them, and maybe you do a little, but once you've finished the book you go back to how you were.


This one is worth it though

>>5914727
Utter garbage. Read the Meditations and the 36 Stratagems, maybe the Book of 5 Rings and the Art of War.

brian tracys shit is pretty good. he isnt fucking around and gives clear instructions for methods that you can immediately apply.

>>5918171
plus he's the only self-help guy i heard recommend that everyone read every day