/lit/ - Literature

>Yes, it's not perfect, but it's fun, and shouldn't that be what reading is about?
My life philosphy

Agreed. By the time Deathly Hallows came out it was pretty much like Star Wars episode 3 to me, relatively decent but the first ones will always have a place in my childhood.

Deathly Hallow was a bit of a slog through the chapters they were camping around. But I did enjoy it and read it the very night it came out.

Half-Blood Prince, on the other hand, I thought was terrible. It read like fan-fic.

"The Ministry has fallen. Srimgeour is dead. They are coming."

Shit just got real.

>>597330
*Scrimgeour

>a quirky, well-designed world.

What are you talking about? Rowling barely does any world building at all. Eragon has a more expansive world than Harry Potter, and a more coherent magic system.

I dunno. That plot device of Draco
malfoy being the true owner of the Elder Wand , a bit that hinges on a tiny sliver of text in volume 6, was pretty flimsy.

I enjoyed them. Book 5 was my personal favourite, but I'll always remember 1-3 as the books of my childhood. Even as a kid, I was a pretentious douchebag and refused to read anything too popular. Must admit, I was wrong on this one.

God Tier

Chamber of Secrets
Prisoner of Azkaban
Order of the Phoenix

Relatively good tier

Sorcerer's Stone
Goblet of Fire

Meh Tier

Half-Blood Prince
Deathly Hallows

>>597376
how come when The Deathly Hallow came out everyone was calling it the best in the series, but now everyone looks down on it as the worst?

>>597391
The people who were saying it was the best hadn't yet read the terrible, terrible back portion of the book.

>>597376
>Sorcerer's Stone
lol

>>597376
>Order of the Phoenix
>God Tier
It was whiny emo bullshit. Fuck you and your opinions.

I still haven't read Deathly Hallows. I feel I should, because I loved those books when I was 12, but I simply cannot be fucked. I'd like to read it before the movie/s come out but damn, shit just doesn't interest me anymore.

I actually thought book 6 was the best, I liked all the backstory that fleshed Voldemort's character out and I felt that the book had a sort of creepy air to it. I was hoping 7 would expand further on Voldemort but it seems it was just dropped and he remained the generic evil wizard.

I liked all the books, but I would never re-read 1st, 2nd and possibly the 3rd one again. 6th book was ok, while it was plot-lite, it felt like a nice holiday from all the stuff that used to happen in previous books.
I was quite upset when I finished reading the last book, partially because of the shitty fucking epilogue, and partially because the series was over (and a huge part of my childhood with it)

>>597457
Well it was technically a kids book, so that might have been a bad idea.

am I the only one who adores the first? how can you not enjoy harry's inroduction to the wizarding world?

>>598116
I quite like the first.

>>597264
>Deathly Hallows released in 2007
>"part of my childhood"

Wait, how old are you again?

>My face when Harry Potter started out as a whimsical kid's story about witches and wizards and turned into a magical version of Nazy Germany at the end of the series

>Nazy

compare that to any roald dahl novel

which do you like
and which is going to end up being a religion in less than 100 years

poor narnia couldn't replace christianity and it was a million times more boring and shorter than perry the platypus colnel potter harry morgan

know what i liked about deathly hollows? the author created an over-powered magic system and actually let their characters push it to the limit.

see, in the original starwars, you wondered why people didn't cut through doors with light sabers or turn off their lightsabers for a split second before they were blocked and then turned them on again to create an unblockable lightsaber slash. the power of the lightsaber was not taken to it's limit because it would be to OP.

in deathly hollows, you never asked "well, why didn't they just do X? it's totally possible given their magic system!!" the harry gang just fucking apparated everywhere whenever they wanted to avoid being caught. it's what you'd expect someone to do if they were internationally hunted people that could teleport anywhere in the world. other authors would be like, "that's too troublesome, i'll just say voldemort placed a some kind of anti-apparation charm on england" or some shit like that.

>>597376
Replace OotP with GoF and we got a deal.

>>598159
why didn't voldemort go to any ghetto and hire some punk to cap harry's ass for like 5000 dollars

>>598181

High Tier:
Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, Chamber of Secrets
Mid tier:
Half blood prince, Sorcerer's stone
Shit tier:
Deathly hallows, Order of the Phoenix

>>598159
I don't understand why the Death Eaters used anything but the death spell.

Fuck man, they don't care. Why take prisoners when you can just fucking murder everyone? It's apparently not that difficult to cast, why bother with stunning bullshit?

>>598197

A group of people could fuck you up while you're using the Avada Kedavra. It seems to take some concentration, and it doesn't attack a group of people like the explosion spells, can't remember the names of those.

I had a drunken argument with a friend over how stupid Quidditch was. She thought it was a legitimate team sport with an equal role for all players, I thought she had never considered it beyond the surface 'Go Harry!' thoughts.

>>598197
because wizardry in the potterverse is only useful for shortcutting chores and one on one dueling.

>It was a part of my childhood
>Deathly Hallows
>Released in 2007

>>598274
Speaking of which, why do students at Hogwarts not study literature?

The closest thing they have to a math class is a numerology class (which is stupidly made an elective) and they just about skim over history. They also don't study SCIENCE at all. Not even soft sciences like psychology.
Also, why doesn't Hogwarts have a P.E. requirement or any art electives?

Though you know what I'd really hate if I were going to Hogwarts? The complete and utter lack of any kind of fucking drama program. Fuck.

gandalf would pwn those hogwarts bitches

>>598197
More importantly, why doesn't somebody just pull out a fucking gun and end it right there?

The wizard battles are COMPLETELY unnecessary. Harry should just cap the fucker.

>>598294
I don't think Gandalf could actually do much real magic. He was more like an angel of god than a wizard in the Potterverse sense.

>>598302
Because MAGIC cancels out SCIENCE

>>598293
they seem to study nothing of any value.

THe kids that come out of there must be completely retarded. no wonder all those wizards do is to run around in circles, confused about shit.

>>598313
They're not confused about shit in their own wizardly world. Just muggle shit.

No, I haven't read Harry Potter cos I'm a 40 year old man.

>>598333
their own wizard-world is completely retarded as well. an insane-asylum in compton has smarter and more functional inmates.

>>598293
they study potions + look into alchemy a bit (which I suppose is like wizard chemistry)
and botony (which is a small branch of biology)
and astronomy (so there you go)

the first years all get quidditch lessons (I guess that counts as P.E. but not really - technically hogwarts should be a prime example of child obesity considering all they eat is banquet sized feasts every day, magic candy and drink beer made out of butter)

but yeah, I'm sure there'd be a policies meeting on hogwarts to teach more relevant stuff if the government had any jurisdiction over them.

>>598335
If you were a forty year old man and had children or younger relatives you would have read Harry Potter

>>598339
Yeah.... like why don't they ever study geography at Hogwarts? It's like how can they even find their own way home if they don't know how to read a damn map?

>>598305
>I don't think Gandalf could actually do much real magic

are you serious?

>>598343
Exactly. And what's with letting high school students drink beer?

Even in a private school like Hogwarts is that wouldn't be acceptable.
And why doesn't the wizard world have shit tier generic public schools as well?

>>598342
wut?

why that? because they would have made him?

you are retarded.

>>598353
Well I can't speak for you but when I and my cousins were reading those books for the first time my relatives were reading them as well to know what the fuck we were talking about.

>>598333
It's weird though that there haven't been any wizards that have bothered with muggle technology of any kind. Many are observant of the muggles, yet only few of them find them interesting.

What if you were going to a wizards duel in magic some day and your opponent just pulls a fucking 44. magnum out of nowhere. I dare say that could be somehow useful.

Why don't wizard schools have some kind of special ed program for learning-impaired wizards with autism and ADHD and shit?

>>598357
drinking age in the U.K. is 5 years old
the age in which you are allowed to buy alcohol is 18

plus considering how easy it is to change your appearance in the potter verse- I bet no-one even bothers carding them.

>>598342
I believe this was being referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARa2eQ4Rqk0

also the kids spelling and math must be horrible.

and hogwarts seems like pretty dangerous place even without all the students being borderline retarded.

worst school ever.

>>598361
That's why I read them, to give my brother someone to talk to about the series and to encourage him to read more books. I failed miserably in that, sadly.
>>598362
I had a massive online argument - pretty much like trolling and raging at the same time, in that seemingly paradoxically enjoyable way - with some fuckknuckle about wizards versus everyone else, and the most retarded argument from him was that a wizard aiming a wand and saying the death curse was faster than a soldier aiming a gun and pulling the trigger.

>>597264
Good books:
1-4

Shit:
Everything else.

Also, Rowling cannot write a decent setting. I mean, I'm not asking for Pratchett level of description, but more info would have been nice.

>>598377
An actual wizard battle with line infantry/air support/whatever the fuck wizards use as artillery must be one of the most laughable things ever. It would be like hiring two teams of soldiers with Down's Syndrome and plopping them down in the middle of the Gobi desert in a death match.

>>598382
she's fleshed out hogwarts pretty well over the years. It's a pretty interesting place the way she writes it.

So I'd disagree with you there.
what I will critique Rowling on, is that her characters are all flat and boring, and the plot and narrative seems to be advanced by the mood the character's are in.
(shall we go to x? no we won't go to x, I don't want to go to x, i'm having a bad day, I guess I'll go to my room and sulk)

-or-

(shall we go and help x? yes, I am pleased with x's performance in the last few chapters, because I just found out x new y, and I believe this merits our helping x.)

Harry was a little git who deserved to get punched by Draco in book 6.

>>598404
*x knew y*

goddamit

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-so-you-dont-have-to-read-it/

>>598357

If you aren't good enough,You're a squib.

As for the ADD Question... The potter-verse is stuck in the 18th Century,They have no clue what it is.

>>598423
Well not really. Like what if you can do magic pretty well but you can't afford Hogwarts?

>>598423
they also have no wheelchair access or vegetarian option at dinner.

>>598423
So pretty much if you're a wizard with hysteria or schizophrenia or some mental retardation you end up in St. Mungo's

>>598428

Yep,That's how it is. Well... Looking at Dumbledore, There's way around it...

>>598430

You're on your own.

>>598431
Dumbledore was able to use his homosexuality and high status as an excuse for his "eccentric" behaviors.

>>598404
I didn't mean Hogwarts, I meant the entire magical world.
Hogwarts is very well written, I agree.

>>598430
this happened to Voldemort I think. The school payed for him.

>>598438

Oh yeah... Good point.

>>598436
then I would agree with you yes.

the only thing we know about the dursley's house is that it is very normal.
the only thing we know about the burrow is that it is very wizardy. (what that means exactly could be anything)

>>598446

We know a bit more about those places...

Much more could have been written to flesh out the backdrop,But the book might look like war and peace. And you are NEVER Going to keep a kid's attention like that.

>>598446
Wasn't the Weasleys' house described as looking like a really tall layer cake or something?

>>598438
Proof of the reason letting scholarship students into prestigious academies is a shitty idea.

>>598460
"Well you're certainly bright enough, but I'm afraid we can't risk you becoming another Magic Snake Hitler. Good luck at McDonalds."

I think harry is just hallucinating from starvation and physical abuse from being kept under the stairs. He imagines a magical world where he's special and unique and people love him. This is his defense mechanism.

>>598534
Holy shit, Harry Potter is Pan's Labyrinth

>>597264
>hate muppets
Nothing alike. Muppets are perfect and designed for adults.

>>598671
>muppets
>perfect

wat u smokin

>>598159
>see, in the original starwars, you wondered why people didn't cut through doors with light sabers or turn off their lightsabers for a split second before they were blocked and then turned them on again to create an unblockable lightsaber slash. the power of the lightsaber was not taken to it's limit because it would be to OP.

That's because when you have too many lightsabers, you get the prequel movies

>>598534
Nah. I would actually like Harry Potter if that was the truth.

I think the issue with the last book is that it reads as if it was just rushed right off the charts.

It really should have been split into two, or something.