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>>6131229
stealth >>>/pol/ thread? why don't you make it explicit and post it there

evilness is subjective

Present dat Israel

villainy is subjective

>>6131229
Hitler was the only to do it systematically. You are attributing famine deaths to Stalin and Mao, Pol Pot wasn't on the same scale and the Japanese never set up camps, they would just sort of kill whoever was around.

High Fructose Corn Syrup

Food produce companies and the mass media.

>>6131229
>Which do you think have been the most evil, villanous group in history?
Natural disasters, those are fucking psychotic.

>>6131582
Wouldn't that be God then?

Sade, Stirner and Nietzsche were philosophical anti-Christs. I don't see how Hitler was an anti-Christ, nor do I see how being an anti-Christ is a bad thing.

I don't think Stalin was really worse than Hitler, since Hitler started WWII.

Evil is absolutely subjective, millions of Native Americans died so that you could shitpost today.

Of those you mentioned only the Japanese and Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge come close to Hitler and chums. Stalin did some horrific things but he was really more about disregarding human life than purposeful genocide, not to mention mot Soviet citizens actually benefited from his crazy shit, and Mao's "kill count" is mostly accidental famine and the Cultural Revolution which wasn't on any level supposed to be about killing people. Hitler and Pol Pot are the only two of those whose crimes involved systemic mass murder as a core part of their ideology and worldview, while the Japanese may not have ever planned it but the potential was certainly there.

>>6131229
>Which do you think have been the most evil, villanous group in history?
Caucasians circa 600AD - Present

>>6131652
>>6131652

>Hitler started >WWII

>Stalin is worse than Hitler

oldest meme in the books
try harder

>>6131665
>>6131679
Weaklings. Take your slave morality back to Tumblr. The Amerindians were weak, for that they deserved their fate.
>>6131748
Stalin caused a greater number of deaths, if that is how you are measuring it.

>>6131756
>Stalin caused a greater number of deaths

Calling Hitler the greatest evil distracts from the responsibility of everyone else involved in Nazi atrocities.

>>6131756

>Stalin caused a greater number of deaths

how so? what do you mean by 'caused'?

Ian Kershaw said that Stalin was more wicked than Hitler.

as long as we talk about anti-christ we should never forget the jews as they were responsible for his death. in my book that's what define an anti-christ.

tldr: Jews are anti-christ

>>6131756
Stalin was a cold piece of shit who did a lot of horrible things, but he granted regular Soviet citizens social mobility they'd never known before, industrialised the USSR so that it could defend itself against an entirely hostile world, and with his death left a superpower that had enormous potential. He was the kind of leader who would do absolutely anything to preserve the system and the ideals left to him by his predecessor, even the worst things. That doesn't make him a good guy at all, but it makes him more than Adolf "I DON'T CARE IF WE'RE LOSING THE WAR GERMANY HAS FAILED ME YOU WERE WEAK YES CONTINUE GASSING THE JEWS UNTIL YOU PHYSICALLY CAN'T ANY MORE" Hitler. Trying to equate the two is a piece of Cold War propaganda.

>>6131783
Source?

>>6131775
>>6131782
Go to Ukraine some time, there was kind of this famine thing caused by the Soviet government. I guess you'll deny it, though, like Nazis with the holocaust.
>>6131796
Yeah, industrialised it by essentially enslaving the population.

>>6131848
>caused by the Soviet government
Kek-a-doodle-do

>over a hundred and fifty famines before USSR
Oh these things just happen
>famines under the USSR
Government caused it
>Stalin finally industrializes the nation enough that the last famine ends in '47, never another in Russia again
Not worth mentioning.

>>6131796
Pretty much everything you said is relevant to Hitler or vice versa. Let's see shall we:

>Social mobility
Just like Hitler
>Industrialised
Germany was already industrialised, but industrial production sky-rocketed under the Nazis for the same reason (pre-war/War economy)
>System left by his predecessor, even the worst thing
One could argue Hitler thought he was preserving the ideals of German history (Charlemagne, Otto, HRE, 1st & 2nd Reich)
>I don't care if we're losing the war
A lot like Stalin's "throw the proles into battle with a tin can on their head and 5 rounds of ammo" c.1941

Trying to equate the two is common sense and pattern recognition, not propaganda.

>>6131858
Hitler's Germany did not encourage social mobility. The more extreme elements of the Nazi Party were purged in 1934 and they only got into power in the first place via compromise with the industrialists and bourgeoisie.

The Nazi economy was infamously disorganised and inefficient, especially during wartime. They controlled all of Europe from 1941 on but managed to extract only a fraction of the resources because of how inefficient it was.

Hitler's reckless actions and lackadaisical approach to both domestic and foreign policy would indicate he did a terrible job of even preserving his own regime.

And see, the war turns around in 1941-42 because Stalin, not being a retard, steps back from overall command of the war and allows his generals to conduct it instead. Hitler does the opposite.

There is very little to equate except both being non-democratic rulers at the same time. Stalin was a ruthless administrator and bureaucrat, a realist - Hitler was an ideologue driven by childish racial hatred and sentimentality. Both might be monsters if you're into that kind of simplified history, but to me one is substantially less awful than the other.

>>6131882
>the industrialists and bourgeoisie.
totally not blinded by a retarded ideology, guys.

>>6131887
Bourgeoisie has been an accepted academic term for quite a while, and has been used by writers from all parts of the political spectrum as well as those with little political inclination.

>>6131887
Are you implying that Hitler wasn't put into power by elements of the Weimar leadership who thought they could control him? Because that's a very basic bit of historical knowledge, ideology aside.

>this thread

>>6131889
>Bourgeoisie has been an accepted academic term for quite a while
In nothing subjects like sociology, psychology and political (pseudo)science

>>6131938
And philosophy. And those are the disciplines this topic would fall under, dumb fuck

If you're only concerned with computer science, maybe you shouldn't be posting on this board

>>6131756
> The Amerindians were weak
They literally had an entirely different perspective and philosophy about life and nature. The reason they weren't able to defend themselves is because some tribes were semi-nomadic even.

>>6131848

famine wasn't directly caused by Stalin
do you know what sociopolitical forces are?

>>6131942
Philosophy is just mathematical logic.

>>6131946
>They literally had an entirely different perspective and philosophy about life
That doesn't mean they weren't weak. If they were strong they wouldn't have been so easily conquered.

>>6131978

mathematical logic is a language game for autists

it is contained within philosophy though, yes

>>6131984
>mathematical logic is a language game for autists
continental philosophy is posturing, pseudo-intellectual tripe for charlatans.

Well, OP, it sounds like the reason you two are friends is because you both have a poor understanding of the word Antichrist. Maybe watch The Exorcist together and cuddle?

>>6131987

you read like a pre-oedipal teenager
get rekt scrub

>>6132002
Nice baseless posturing, you unscientific pseudo-intellectual.

>>6132010

cute blog post, cowboy

>>6132015
>this is what continentals call philosophy
Pathetic.

>>6132021

yawn
good luck with your semiotic plug-n-play

>>6132026
Good luck with your unfalsifiable nonsense.

This some /pol/-level retardation.

>>6132033

If only you knew how to cogitate your relation to Popper as a fellating underling

I'll leave you to your axiomatic womb quest, the big boys have books to read ;)

>>6132042
Books about unfalsifiable dogma and pseudo-scientific posturing.

>>6132044

oh dear lord
that image is fucking hilarious
are you in grade school? this is an 18+ website

It's interesting how you linked "anti-christ" automatically with "bad". The fact that so many secular non-believing modern people, essentially think Jesus was a "good guy", is quite revealing.

>>6132052

jesus was a very chill person
dindu nuffin

>>6131229
>Which do you think have been the most evil, villanous group in history?
Well that's an easy question

stop bumping this bait

>>6132051
Nice argument, continental, but you didn't obfuscate your post with poorly defined buzzwords and arbitrary capital letters.

Unit 731, easily.

>>6131652
Stalin killed tens of millions more people than Hitler did.