/lit/ - Literature

>>6326336
Bombastic and inaccurate thread, OP. I am not. Yet it's obvious why an atheist would be interested in reading him.

Please delete.

He is an entry level existentialist

>>6326402
who would you deem to be an adequate-level existentialist?

because non-absurdist atheism is a emotional disorder caused by arrested development and father issues


just like nietzsche

>>6326402
Nietzsche and Kierkegaard are the only two existentialists worth reading

The vast majority of secular humanists are at odds with Nietzsche's philosophy, and analytic philosophers (who are mostly atheist) tend to dismiss him on the same grounds as other continental philosophers. You're full of shit, OP.

Nietzsche was theistic as fuck so it's funny that they were probably guzzling his semen.

>>6326436
>Being this ignorant of De Beauvoir
>This callous towards Camus
Dude check yoself

>>6326336
Because he has one of the best critiques of Christianity.

It's because he's just so damn edgy.

>>6326353
Will you go out with me?

I have read a total of 12 books in my life and have a working knowledge of Catholic theology

>>6326436
Why do people respect Kierkegaard so much?
>absurdist reality is scary
>I don't want to kill myself so I'll delude myself into believing in God
This is pathetic

Probably because they think the quote "God is dead" is really edgy.

>>6326440
One of the easiest but most quickly applicable parts on Nietzsche's work is to realize that Scientism and Secular Humanism are offshoots of Christianity. Read your Mustache Man more carefully next time.

>>6326336

Nietzsche criticizes religion but he doesn't dislike it, hes more disappointed in it.

He thoroughly hates the typical fedora atheists as idol worshiping idiots.

>>6326518
>Christianity
Christians, rather.

>>6326447
he was spiritual, not theistic

>>6326336
I'm an atheist but I don't really like him. Altough I have read none of his works.

>>6326530
To the Amish.

>>6326545
The typical atheist is a fedora-wearer, huh?

>>6326516
>de Beauvoir

nietzsche owns. he owns . it's a shame that he went retarded and died

Because we've read him, OP.

i used to think this one guy i used to talk to was a fucking genius before i found out that 3/4ths of what he said was a paraphrase of nietzsche or weber

>>6326336

>Atheists cannot into morality

This bait is so old it made me retch

Daily reminder that the average atheist's IQ is 15 points higher than the average Christian's.

>>6327095
>morality can exist without a source

>>6327143

>not killing people because of fear of god
>not killing people because of fear of law
>not killing people because that's the cultural norm

you're displaying a /pol/ deus vult spouting levels of autism if you think there's a tangible difference

>>6327164
I'm actually an atheist and moral nihilist.

>>6327143
A substantial portion of academic philosophers would like to disagree with you

>>6326419
arrested development is a show about father issues!

>>6326336
Uhh do they? Bertrand Russell of "Why I am not a Christian" fame, who interpreted all of continental philosophy as fascism, had a hard-on for Nietzsche?

Please fuck off with your lazy, half-assed generalisations with the intent of causing controversy.

>>6327026
>Hat tipping folder

>>6327102
>muh third world countries

What is the average IQ for white Atheists vs white Christians?

>>6326419
>absurdism

ahahahaa

>>6326402
How could a philosopher who denies the existence of the self and denies the existence of free will be considered an existentialist?

>>6326447
"God", "immortality of the soul", "redemption", "beyond" -- Without exception, concepts to which I have never devoted any attention, or time; not even as a child. Perhaps I have never been childlike enough for them?
I do not by any means know atheism as a result; even less as an event: It is a matter of course with me, from instinct. I am too inquisitive, too questionable, too exuberant to stand for any gross answer. God is a gross answer, an indelicacy against us thinkers - at bottom merely a gross prohibition for us: you shall not think!

>>6326336

I don't.

I find his work to be emotionally-based, logically inconsistent, animalistic, bizarrely Fascist-like while also glorifying free will, insanely self-indulgent, anti-humanist, anti-rational, anti-altruist, anti-progress, anti-Science, and anti-decency.

>>6328610
>anti-Science
u wot m8

have you read his work?

>>6326336
Everyone has a hard on for Nietzsche, religious people just can't admit to it openly.

Is it okay if I identify as a Deist just so I can get the theists to shut the hell up?

>>6329804
Identifying as an apatheist is more fun.

>>6329703
Well, he is 'anti-scientism,' but that's a great thing.

>>6329825
well, only a moron would believe in scientism, even the most atheist theoretical physicist wouldn't believe the scientific method can be applied to anything

>>6329830
Right. I'm suggesting that the other poster calling Nietzsche 'anti-science' must only be doing so because he is an advocate of scientism.

>>6329830
"The most atheist"? What the fuck are you talking about? "I don't accept the claim that a god exists... TO THE XTREME"

>>6327818
She's the Jacobin Ayn Rand

>>6326525
Are you also into men, trannies, or women so disgustingly similar to men physically that they are indistinguishable from them?

>>6326528
>absurdist reality is scary
>I don't want to kill myself so I'll delude myself into believing in God
So you've never read Kierkegaard then?

Because they haven't read him. The extent of their knowledge is "god is dead" and for the advanced euphoric fedoras: "will to power"

>>6327017
Yes sir that is the meme.

>>6326531
>Nietzsche's work is to realize that Scientism and Secular Humanism are offshoots of Christianity
Neither of these things are stated or implied by Nietzsche and aren't true.

>>6327305
If they had any basis for what they said, then maybe they'd have a reason to disagree with me.
>>6327164
>missing the point this fucking bad

>>6329830
>wouldn't believe the scientific method can be applied to anything

It can't?

>>6330149
Yea.

>>6330141
So mirror reverse in all things. Exactly.

>>6332116
Correct

>>6330160
>>Third chapter of Genealogy of morals.

>>6332635
Third essay*

Bottom line is nietzsche attempted to bring light to the illusionary prison known as religion. His own experience and his own knowledge through his childhood life and realizations.

Nietzsche offers the only brand of pagan anti-theism. Anti-theism apart from Nietzsche is Christian or Christian inspired, and based on the idea of an objective narrative of truth that deviations from are heresy.

nietzsche is a faggot, he just copied plato and schopenhauer

>>6333597
How could you possibly think this?

>>6326336
>"Nietzsche’s philosophy with its cult of superman for whom the fulfilment of his own individuality is everything and the subordination of the individual to a great social aim is as vulgar as it is despicable, this philosophy is the real philosophy of the intellectual; and it renders him totally unfit to participate in the class struggle of the proletariat." - Lenin quoting Kautsky in One Step Forward, Two Steps Back

>>6334035
>muh it contradicts my slavery ideology
>ad hominem ad hominem

>>6334043

The point is that Lenin, a violent anti-theist, held little sympathy with either Nietzsche or his philosophy.

Also, stating that the cult of the Uberman goes against proletarian morality isn't an ad hominem.

>>6334067
Yeah I know anon, I'm just joking around.

> vulgar as it is despicable
Seems a bit ad hominem tho

>>6334072
>Can't into reading comprehension

>>6334072

Well, Kautsky wasn't saying that Nietzche was vulgar and dispicable, but rather that Nietzche's philosophy centred around inidividualism percieves subordination towards a collective entity as being "vulgar as it is despicable," which comes in sharp contrast to the open collectivism of Communist ideologies.

>>6334104
You are seriously deluded if you think this wasn't intended as a rhetoric attack

>>6334116
People like Kautsky and Lenin just like talking shit for the sake of talking shit. No real other reason.

Why hate on Nietzsche?

Cause they're bored.

Nietzsche's religious philosophy is universally agreed upon.

>>6334191
by the vast majority of atheists* rather

>>6332635
>>6332641
If I remember correctly that was about nihilism. It's been a few months since I read it, but I don't think scientism or secular humanism are ever mentioned.

>>6326528
>Why
Its the typical individualist, idealist's overriding sense of victimization. Christ, Rand described the individual as the "Ultimate Minority", which being a fairly profound insight, just feels so much like whining when I keep in mind her and other individualist's fanboys.

>>6326516
>not reading russian existentialists
Kill yourself leftist trash.