/lit/ - Literature

>>6625746
> atheist philosophers
Feels like an oxymoron. All the intelligent atheists I listen to are physicists.

>>6625754
Well, with philosophy you generally read

>>6625746
Atheism is essentially an infinite suicide to the Christian

>>6625909
I'm not interested in Christians, who are blowing their horn way too loud for how small a segment of 4chan they are.

Intelligent philosophers who focused on atheism disappeard with likes of Ayer and Russell. Among contemporary ones there are few bright ones who also happen to atheist, but they don't focus on this issue. Much like Christian philosophers to be honest. Milbank is actually quite intelligent though.

>>6625746
Any philosopher that focuses on atheism and makes it his image is probably a joke. It's like a philosopher that is known for his solipsism.

>>6625951
he rants and whines about liberalism, but calls himself a socialist. he's a joke

>>6625915
theyre almost half of /lit/ m8

>>6625973
>he rants and whines about liberalism
>calls himself a socialist.
>thinking the 2 are mutually exclusive

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>6625746

No, because you're beginning by looking for atheism, then looking for references to back up the atheist's prestige. This is religious behavior.

>>6625987
>muh Nazi may may

>>6626010
That's because I want to counter the influx of Christian shitposting

>>6625973
What are you talking about? Many socialists absolutely despise liberalism, and it's quite common to hear liberal used as a slur in socialist circles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_philosophers

Zizek, Stirner, Rawls, Nietzche, and so on and so on are all prominent meme philosophers who are listed as atheist

>>6626048
Socialism is about as liberal as you can get. Scandinavian socialism is democratic, and regular socialism is authoritarianism, but they're still the opposite of conservative.

Atheism is for materialistic fools, grow up.
>>6626052
Nietzsche wasn't atheist.

>>6626046

It's not even Christian, it's just people sick and tired of whiners from 2006 still whining about the one thing about them that they think is an achievement, not having read enough neuroscience.

>>6626063
>americans aren't taught about ideology in high school

>>6626052
Except Zizek likes Milbank, and Nietzsche is always being contorted into saying he was lamenting God is dead.

Stirner isn't helping stop Christposters

>>6625746
Graham Oppy
JL Schellenberg
Michael Ruse
Michael Martin
Matthew McCormick
Herman Philipse

>>6625973

I guess you missed a century of puritan, almost conservative socialism practice behind The Iron Curtain. I'd ask if you also think that Zizek is a joke being a socialist who despises liberalism, but he sort of is.

>>6625983
lol no

we're all atheists on 4chan, we just make sure to distance ourselves from the fedoras on reddit.

>>6625746

I'm just happy that the Stirner and DFW posting seems to have abated somewhat.

>>6626134

A little clarification. Century was an overstatement, more like half of it, especially after Stalin's purge and the post-war period.

>>6626148
>we're all atheists on 4chan
Fuck guys okay the ruse is up, he saw through it.

>>6626118
Good, good. I will look into them

Hume was an atheist.

>>6626182
No, he just didn't believe in divine intervention.

>>6626148
I've been here since November 2003 and I'm a devout Roman Catholic.

Maybe you're from Reddit?

>>6626189
Yeah? Did you ask him?

>>6626202
Does your priest enjoy watching anime?

>>6626207
>hume was an atheist
>reasonable doubt that he wasnt
>hurrrrr prove my baseless claim wrong

>>6626239

I just asked him via the Weegus board, he's an atheist still he says.

>>6626234
No, but I do.

>>6626267
What anime would you recommend him if he asked you for one?

>>6626239
>reasonable doubt that he wasnt

Nah.

>>6626285
Boku no Pico

>>6626298

>>6626292
Almost all people in europe at that time were christians. Are you telling me I should take some silly shitposters word over stats?

>>6626312
How about using Hume's actual writings as a guide to his views instead of appealing to popularity?

>>6626298
>he doesn't like the sequel

>>6626325
>statistical evidence is a meme pyramid fallacy

>>6626312
Huh. Somehow this anon is convinced Hume was Christian because "almost" everyone was Christian. Not philosophers though, just people. Ya know, the population and stuff. Just pretty much everyone was a Christian so Hume was. Ya know, Stats. It just goes to show you stuff.

>>6626325

As much as I think Hume could be an actual atheist, many intellectuals who raised doubts of "atheism" weren't atheist in a modern sense, Hobbes being a good example.

>>6625746
Why haven't you accepted the superiority of Christian Atheism?

>>6626352
nah hobbes was actually atheist as fuck

same with spinoza

>>6626350
>reading comprehension
I'm saying we should presume he was a christian before an atheist.

>>6626234
What does anime have to do with posting on 4chinz? I've been on this site since 2008 and I've never been interested in anime or any other Japanese stuff.

>>6626352
Atheism is the lack of belief. You can be an agnostic atheist and you can be an agnostic deist.

According to his writings, Hume is, without a doubt, agnostic and atheist.

>>6626365
>we should presume he was a christian

You've never read anything Hume wrote, and it's obvious.

>>6626373
Almost everyone who was on 4chan in 2003 would have been a weeb. The first board was Anime/Random. Know your history, dawg

>>6625746
>Nazi's and communist Russia happened because of dogma

what a dumb shitter, how do people take this guy seriously?

>>6626392
That was 12 years ago, friend. 4chan has grown and now people who have no interest in anime come here for its rich and in-depth discussion across a wide variety of topics.

I came here for /sp/ and stayed for /lit/.

>>6626362
Spinoza was hilariously atheist. He went out of his way to prove he wasn't atheist and only made himself appear more atheist.

>>6626399
I personally wouldn't have been able to type that with a straight face

>>6626393
Even the PRC has admitted the excesses of the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were caused by blindly following dogma.

>>6626419
>PRC is "communist Russia"

Also, citation needed.

>>6626362

Spinoza, sure. Hobbes wasn't by any stretch of imagination an atheist in a modern sense of this word. He professed a belief in Nicene Creed which is basically an equivalent of believing in God with Christian atributes. Even his friends in private correspondence thought it was nonsensical to accuse him of atheism. Confusion about his beliefs stems from his re-interpetation of biblical mythos and Leviathan that questioned aspects of political influence of Christian faith, not directly dogmatic ones.

>>6626403
For Spinoza God is the only existing substance, how is that atheist?

>>6626403
Tractatus Theologo-Politicus is indeed a very good book.
>>6625746
Are YOU the clergyman (the divinities student?) who is doing that shit? And now you want to brush up your apologetics?

>>6626433
Nicene Creed isn't "basically an equivalent", it is actually affirming Christ died for your sins and is God.

>>6626447
Oh boy did you google Spinoza. I don't think I have time to give a crash course im really tired

>>6625746
>primarily know for his atheism

I don't know if there's any worthwhile philosophers who spend their time hammering on this theme. There are plenty of good atheist philosophers, but they do not spend their time talking about the lack of god, as it is a pretty empty point to continuously mull over.

I suppose you could say Daniel Dennet. Not my cup of tea, but respectable and not fedora-tier. The problem with most hard-line continuously vocal Atheists is the tendency to be scientismists, and it is *that* tendency which is truly fedora-tier.