/lit/ - Literature

ITT jealous nerds trying to justify their fungal existence.

>>6677952
I would read about that.

>If we go to a mountain, there is what I call a mountain protocol to be observed. We local people believe that there is someone, the guardians of these places, and there is a form of order of sacredness for those who go to the mountain to respect

Ignorant savages. This is why white people should still have extra-territorial rights.

tbf, most people on this board have no life experience of any kind and could do with some.

What can a 20-something who's entire life experience is school and the inside of their bedroom possibly have to say?

>>6678043
Yeah, like, Kant is just a le dead white dooood XD

>>6678043
I don't think that's entirely fair - look at Kant. It's certainly condusive to travel and explore but I've also met people who have travelled more than me who have even less to say and seem to have put no thought into that experience.

Where you from Britbro?

>>6678047
>>6678048

Kant didn't travel no, but he was a) a genius and b) a philosopher and not a novelist.

it isn't just travel I'm talking about anyway.

>>6678043
>life experience
Overrated bullshit. Only moronic hipsters who read for the plot care about that. Is Kafka shit, according to you?

>>6678056
You weren't exactly clear as you seemed to define life experience in spatial terms.

>>6678056
Novelists and philosophers are one in the same. Novelists just espouse philosophy differently. Kant hardly left his room, you should know, and had a strict daily routine.

>>6678058
He had life experiences, and was a grown man when he was writing.

>tfw I actually backpacked through South East Asia in my gap year

It was fun.

>>6678080
>He had life experiences
So does everyone, even the very young.
>and was a grown man when he was writing.
So?

>>6678083
I wish they had robbed and killed you, then there'd be less pretentious hipsters around.

>tfw don't have anybody to backpack with

>>6678088
Yeah, I'm still a shit writer though. So I have no excuse.

>>6677952
>implying backpacking is a genuine experience and not just the locals forcing a smile to get money off naive Western college kids

>>6678092
>college
Back to burgerland, fatty.

>>6678063
I believe he was implying that you are perhaps not blessed with the same intellect that Kant was, and that perhaps you would need more than your room to match his achievement, no?

>>6678090
I backpacked alone for 3 months and it was great. It's probably better to go alone or else you'd risk just keeping yourselves company instead of meeting new and interesting people.

I'm >>6678083 btw

>>6678084
Like I said school and your bedroom doesn't count.

>>6677952
>making your parents pay for your stupid spiritual journeys

>>6678106
So what experience did Kant have?

>>6678098
If you look at the conversation chain you will see that Kant was added later.

>>6678097
Americanised uni kids are the only ones who actually believe in buying 'experiences'

>>6678105
>It's probably better to go alone or else you'd risk just keeping yourselves company instead of meeting new and interesting people.

>>6678116
I hope they're the only ones who are motivated by the desire to have 'experiences'.

>>6677952
why go outside if I want to write a novel about the boring life in my basement doing nothing but browsing the webs

>>6678119
Yes, I'm a hipster because I socialise with people.

>>6678113
Whatever dude, I'm sure you are a philosophical genius just like Kant.

Get a fucking life man.

>>6678125
Do you think it's possible to post on 4chan and have a life?

I know so many people who've gone on traveling gap years who are just as ignorant and prejudiced as they were before they left.

>>6678092
That,s why (apart from being broke) I never backpacked outside Europe, where I live. I would feel like I'm a selfish spoiled kid, choosing to be on the road, and shitting over all the privileges we have in western countries, when the people there are poor for real.

I never went "travelling" but I did a lot of things related to drugs, the internet and women, in my youth. Still do sometimes.

>>6678147
That's a pretty silly way of looking at it, does that mean you'll never travel to a country that's poorer than yours?

>>6677952
This scene is related to this issue.
https://youtu.be/e9_OE1aPyDo?t=13m24s

>>6677952
>muh travel broadens the mind

>>6678147
That is a strange attitude, first of all a lot of those places rely on tourism.
Second why feel guilty for being born? Surely you should take advantage of your privileges to travel, unless you are gonna give up all your possessions or something.

>>6677952
slag slagging

>>6678043
If "life experience" is bumming around Asia getting drunk then I have plenty of that. And I'm still a thick cunt.

>>6678150
At the moment I would do it but I guess i would feel unconfortable/ guilty. I can blame the guilt on my catholic upbringing. Anyway till now it was more of a theorethical problem since i couldnt afford planes to Asia or south america.

>>6678207
>I guess I would feel uncomfortable/guilty
Almost everybody does, you'd probably have to be in the realms of pychopathy to not feel something when you see the little street urchin making a feeding gesture towards you. However, as is the way of the world there is only so much you can do - or do you mean to tell me you rehabilitate every homeless person you see on the street and so on.

I'm not saying you should necessarily save up to travel round asia but I dont' think what you're feeling has anything to with Catholism but more to do with being a normal human in the west.

Well, obviously travel doesn't matter that much in terms of writing. I'd also say that I've never written about the time I worked a terrible job in retail or in a kitchen.

I think what is key is being observant and knowing how to extrapolate drama and insight from the world around you. You live somewhere so you should be able to say something interesting about it - no matter your life experience. It's true you need context to understand some things (otherwise you wouldn't know why they are interesting) but it's not something you need to seek out. If you're a good writer there's no requirement for special experiences.

My life experiences come into my writing and I know some of it might have limited appeal to some people but the way I see it, is that I have my point of view. For example I can write about fatherhood from the point of view of a child. I don't need to have had children to write something compelling about family. For every experience you don't have there is an experience you do have: like writing about having money or writing about having none.

Then of course if you are observant and a good writer you can take the ideas from your experiences (about loyalty, power, family, love, identity etc.) and use them in fictional settings.

>>6677952

>>6678043
I consider being depressed and sad all the time as life experience

>tfw no gf

>>6678155
>slum tours

I love dehumanizing people. Where do I sign up?

>>6677963
It happened and now they're in jail because the locals thing their being ass-naked pissed off a mountain spirit so it caused an avalanche that killed 18.

>>6678289
Are you implying that isn't true?

>>6678294
Did I say it wasn't you goddamn mountain ape what kind of gay yeti spirit doesn't want to see a bunch of Australian 20-somethings naked anyway

>>6678043
I've seen some shit and honestly I don't think it did anything good for me. You're probably better off not having any "life experience".

>>6678289
I would definitely read about that.

>>6678330
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-33105999