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You're having a dinner party /lit/

you get to invite 5 guests, they can be authors fictional characters, or historical figures

and you must choose the topic you'd like to start the conversation off with.

bonus, you get to pick one extra person and make him the butler.

who do you pick and what do you talk about?

>> No.6831182

mr pickwick and his club
we talk about the theory of tittlebats

>> No.6831185

obviously I would pick the dinner party masters:

austen, woolf, proust, fitzgerald and petronius

>> No.6831216

Jesus, Augustine, Aquinas, Peter, Luther

Butler is Dawkins

>> No.6831224

>>6831216
>dawkins poisons the food
>jesus has to raise the others

>> No.6831251
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>>6831224
>mfw my dinner party becomes Jesus's most recent miracle and is remembered forever
>mfw Dawkins is converted, killing all traces of new atheism

>> No.6831261

Trouble thinking of 4 more guests but whoever directed that 2002 indie flick Sex with Strangers would def be there

>> No.6831443

I would pick Julius Caesar, Richard Nixon, Cyrus the Great, Colonel Kurtz, and Odysseus,

we would discuss power.

Ichabod Crane would be the butler.

>> No.6831473

Truman Capote, Benjy Compson, William Wordsworth, Ignatius J. Reilly, and Homer

We talk about technological advances

The butler is Uncle Tom

>> No.6831530

Wittgenstein representing nominalism
Quine representing platonism
Hilbert representing formalism
Benacerraf representing structuralism
Field representing fictionalism

>Butler
Feynman (as long as he keeps his mouth shut and listens to the conversation)

>you must choose the topic you'd like to start the conversation off with
The ontological status of mathematical objects and their relation to the physical sciences and the world.

>> No.6831533
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Homer, Virgil, Dante, Joyce, and Milton

Topic would be collaboration for a new fanfiction saga

Butler is Diogenes for entertainment once Virgil and Homer pass out from too much wine

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>>6831168
Krieg from Borderlands 2
Wrex from Mass Effect
Trevor from GTA V
Fawkes from Fallout 3
Sheogorath from Elder Scrolls

And Ryder from San Andreas can be the butler. "Let's go bitch"

Oh how we'd talk about the insane and all the completely derivative. We'd also discus what we have all been up to in this crazy crazy world. How magnificent. What a party that would be. Oh boy. You're all invited. Lovely.

>> No.6831801

>>6831168
The Duchess of Richmond, Juicy J, Madame la Marquis, Gatsby, Nick
Conversation would be how to fucking rage
The butler would be John Cena

The dinner party then explodes into a giant fucking rager

>> No.6831808
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>Shakespeare
>Hart Crane
>Lord Byron
>Oscar Wilde
>William Faulkner
>Butler: Harold Bloom
>Topic: Orgies

>> No.6831812

>>6831779
you have great taste in companions/followers but come on man you know this wasn't about video games

>> No.6831853

Pythagoras, Thucydides, the Persian King from Esther, Matathias, and The Christ.

Peter Hitchens would be the butler, and he would offer witty commentary from the sidelines.

>> No.6831928

>Nietzsche
>Gauss
>Leibniz
>Wittgenstein
>Batman

>Butler: Mr. Jeeves

>Topic: The existence of objective truth, with a segway into the ethics concerning pedophilia

>> No.6831975

>>6831928

segue

>> No.6832022

>>6831168
Shakespeare
Nietzsche
Hitler
Julian the Apostate
Solzhenitsyn

>> No.6832040

>>6831975
wow, thank you. I've been writing segway for a good five years now. Blarf

>> No.6832055

>>6831473

>mfw Benjy and Homer have the ease of long-lost friends while Capote won't shut up about the colored butler

>> No.6832062
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Nixon
Tony Blair
Elvis
Peter Hitchens
Ed Milliband

We'd talk about how the world has fucked us over

The butler would be muh waifu because why not.

>> No.6832065

>>6832040

>writing
>riding
>segue
>segway

Put the puns down and come out with your hands down, Jimmy.

>> No.6832078

>>6831168
>Alexander the Great
>Batman
>Genghis Khan
>Hitler
>Julius Caesar

>Butler is St. Thomas Aquinas

>Topic: the role of violence, specifically war, in human history

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>>6831168
rimbaud, goethe, murray siskind, and molloy

they're going to discuss that scene in american beauty where the twerp says a plastic bag is the most beautiful thing he's ever filmed

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>>6832182
oh and the butler is the tinker from outer dark

>> No.6832227

Oscar Wilde, Socrates, Isaac Asimov, Frank Herbert

The butler is Tao Lin

Spend the entire evening ripping his style to shreds without letting slip the butler is the author to the guests, and laughing at his tears of impotent rage. Hopefully get him to dramatically kill himself before desert, and get Socrates to equate the passing of the pleb as easily forgotten as his prose.

>> No.6832337

i dunno

jesus christ, orson welles, kanye west, genghis khan, thomas pynchon

butler is swanson from the comedy

>> No.6832371

Rimbaud, De Sade, Foucault, Proust, Diogenes

Butler is Judith

Topic is boipucci

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>>6832371
>Butler is Judith

>> No.6832393

Oedipa, Oedipus, Odysseus, Leopold Bloom, Tao Lin

Noboru as Butler

They walk the streets with Tao trying to sell Nirvana CDs until they all get killed off by Odysseus poor leadership skills

>> No.6832477

Authors: DFW and Shakespeare and Nietzsche
Historical figures: Thomas Jefferson
Fictional characters: a cute gf

Butler: Christ

>> No.6832523

>>6832062
That sounds like a terrible group.

>> No.6832545

>>6831168
Hitler, Jesus, Satan, Nero, Mother Teresa
>worldstar

>> No.6832560

kartal and shabon

>> No.6832611

Nietzsche, Cicero, Plato, Heidegger and Hume.
Butler would be Dawkins of course.

Topics; The virtues of modern science and how far can it take humanity, the possibility of genetically informed eugenics as an advancement, and the ethics questions that arise when human (or higher) AI and the inevitable singularity arrive.

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>>6832477
aw buddy

nice dubs

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>>6832611
>the inevitable singularity
An utterly improbable hypothesis is "inevitable"---Dear Lord, Yes, what else you've got to say?

>> No.6832627

>>6831168
Nietzsche
Wollstonecraft
de Beauvoir
Schopenhauer
Richard Dawkins

Butler: Judith Butler, to be adressed as "Butler Butler" at all times

topic: Feminism, obviously.

expecting a shitshow.

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>>6831168
>Sigmund Freud
>Genghis Khan
>Billy the Kid
>Socrates
>Abraham Lincoln
>Butler: Napoleon

Conversation topic: My history project.

>> No.6832653

>>6832626
>An utterly improbable hypothesis
Utterly improbable is Christ's return to the Earth, this is a matter of time and science.

>> No.6832685

>>6832653
There are literally no viable arguments nor scientific evidence for the thesis, though. At the moment the whole idea of singularity reeks of something that is only found in sci-fi novels.

Whatever fantasies bring meaning to your life, buddy.

>> No.6832706

>>6832685
Assuming scientific progress continues in the vein it has done for the last 200 or so years I see no reason why it wouldn't be reached at some point. In our lifetimes alone (blips in human history, nothing in eternal history) we have seen exponential growth of processing power solutions beyond what even those of the 70's could imagine. And we haven't even started graphene based computing yet. Whether Moore's law continues to year x or it it is only a result of an expansive boon in the invention of the microchip (I will concede it is probably more of the latter), the singularity WILL happen, buddy.

>Whatever fantasies bring meaning to your life, buddy.
Fuck you. Defeatists deserve to rot in their graves, and this thread is precisely for the fantastical.

>> No.6832709

>>6831168

Edward Gorey
Kurt Vonnegut
Henry David Thoreau
Norman Mailer
John Waters

Butler: Ted Kennedy

We'd just sit around and get fucked up and talk about how awesome it is to live on Cape Cod.

>> No.6832758

>>6832706
Computing progress =/= scientific progress. Increased computing power has little to do with science, but increasingly more sophisticated technology.

Your whole argument can be summarized as such: Computers will increase in computing power, [insert irrelevant tangents about "graphene-based computing" and other bullshit that in no shape or form helps to support your argument] therefore singularity will happen.

It's an embarrassingly stupid, invalid, and unsound argument. The conclusion is based on a single, probabilistic premise. How on earth did you manage to infer a non-probabilistic assertion from a probabilistic one?

Also
>appealing to Moore's "Law"
How is it that Moore's Law is not ridiculed enough? Only software engineers and its ilk could have coined something so utterly stupid.

>> No.6832828

The Judge, Ahab, Mishima, Charles Manson, Stirner

>> No.6832844

>>6832706
u act like its just a matter of processing power

its also an issue of using that processing power, theres no guarantee that a singularity will or must occur

and right now AI is so far away from surpassing humans that to describe it as "inevitable" is ridiculous

possible, sure, probably, maybe, inevitable? no fucking way

>> No.6832890

I love these threads because the offer the best glimpse into how intellectual curious and capable specific /lit/izens truly are.

>> No.6832924

>>6831168
Guests:
>Joyce
>Hemingway
>Fitzgerald
These guys used to get wasted together so it's probably pretty organic fun. Plus I could fanboy over Joyce together with Fitzgerald (they met at some point IRL and scottie fitz made a huge ass out of himself trying to kiss joyce's hand and shit, top lel)
>Thomas Pinecone
SHOW ME YOUR FACE MOTHERFUCKER
>DFW
Just to smoke a reefer with and to ask him if there's anything he would've liked to do if he was still around

Butler:
>Hemingway's main character from for Whom the Bell Tolls
I hope Joyce will help me aggravate him until he attacks us, at which point Joyce and I will yell DEAL WITH HIM HEMINGWAY and watch fiction Hem and real life Hem into a fistfight, so we can see which one of the two is more badass

>> No.6832928

>>6832828
Are you the bottom?

>> No.6832945

>>6832928
Power Bottom

>> No.6832951

Marcel Proust
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Soren Kierkegaard
Ralph Waldo Emerson
William Shakespeare

butler: Oswald Spengler

We would start by talking about Hamlet, and end by talking about the role culture plays in creating the individual

I wanted to bring Walt Whitman, but I dont think he would say very much

>> No.6832961

Pynchon, Joyce, Slothrop, Pig Bodine, and Leopold Bloom

DFW is the butler that's constantly abused

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6832975

Would you guys watch a mudslinging debate and eventual fistfight between Kierkegaard, Camus, Stirner, Aquinas, and Nietzsche on existence and meaning?

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Siddhartha Gutama, Asa Akira, Woody Allen, Queegeg the Cannibal, and the Silver Surfer.
Butler would be Sasha Grey. Topic of discussion would be favorite recipes.

>> No.6832988

>>6832709
ftw

>> No.6832999

>>6832975
maybe if they actually slung mud and maybe wore bikinis

>> No.6833042

>>6832981
this is a great idea. OP never specified limits for what the butler has to do if we order them.
>Hey Sasha. Hey Sasha. C'mere bebbeh.

>> No.6833150

Nietzsche
Asa Akira
Sasha Grey
Stoya
Scarlet Johanasdf;jlasdofnasd
Kate Upton

butler: Nietzsche's father

all of the females would be nude and the topic would be favorite sex stories and sexuality

i want to watch him squirm!

>> No.6834221

>>6832758
>Computing progress =/= scientific progress. Increased computing power has little to do with science, but increasingly more sophisticated technology.
Science in its many forms is the exact tool that is required to sophisicate technology, though. Do you think if computing continued and material science, electrical engineering, nanotech etc all suddenly stopped that computing would continue to improve at the rate is today? No. The foundations of computing are scientific progress, and they will be for the forseeable future.
>Your whole argument can be summarized as such: Computers will increase in computing power, [insert irrelevant tangents about "graphene-based computing" and other bullshit that in no shape or form helps to support your argument] therefore singularity will happen.
Well, yes. And your argument to the contrary?
There are many definitions of the singularity but the basic premise is that the human brain will be matched or overtaken, while this may seem improbable to my your mind, it's actually quite likely when you consider technological improvement and advance to the year x.
Oh and another 'tangent' for you: quantum computing. Something science recently gifted us that we have yet to even unlock a tiny fraction of the potential of.
>How on earth did you manage to infer a non-probabilistic assertion from a probabilistic one?
Well it's actually probalistic, but your 'argument' is just based on trying to just call it not likely.

>>6832844
I'll concede that inevitable was just attention grabbing of my OP. And you're right, but the processing power is the required foundation and setting the stage for it to occur.

>> No.6834253

>adolf hitler
>heinrich himmler
>josef goebbels
>hermann göring

butler is obama

>> No.6834276

Socrates
Michel de Montaigne
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Friedrich Engels
Jean-Paul Sartre

The topic would be the relationship between aesthetics and morality

The butler would be Stevie Ray Vaughan. He can play us off a few licks after dinner.

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>>6834253
pretty boring tbh

>> No.6834285

>>6831168
Boris Pasternak, Rilke, Rimbaud, Musil, Cesar Vallejo

Robert Walser is the butler

we would discuss sublimation

>>6832196
>not picking the satanic cowboy
pleb as usual muck

what book is that passage from? it reminds me of something I have read recently but it can't be that, although it is very similar.

>> No.6834289

I think a consensus is forming on Nietzsche, Dawkins & Sasha...

>> No.6834354

>>6832078
>Batman
>not Judge Holden
If you're only going to pick one fictional character to your discussion of violence how could you pick anybody but The Judge?

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>HP lovecraft
>Charles Darwin
>Adolf hitler
>Julius Ceasar
>Putin
Eugenics and the world domination
butler is netanyaho just to see him serve adolf
and ceasar
>

>> No.6836473

bump

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>>6834285
i stand by my decision

it's from amundsen by alice munro, published in Dear Life

>> No.6836765

jesus christ
friedrich nietzsche
dostoevsky
john fitzgerald kennedy
joan of arc

ivan karamazov's devil is the butler lol

the topic of discussion is love (in an attempted recreation of plato's symposium)

>> No.6836775

Jesus Christ
Albert Fish
Ed Gein
Helen Keller
Genghis Khan

>> No.6837532
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Jesus, St. Augustine, Luther, Darius the Great and Cyrus the Great.

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>>6837532
Butler: Diogenes
Topic: Religion and Theology

>> No.6837541

George Washington
Hemingway
Aristotle
Wittgenstein
Terrance Malick

>> No.6837599

>>6831168
Jesus
Saint Peter
Saint Ambrose
Saint Augustine
Saint Thomas Aquinas

Someone who can record the event is the butler. He would only have to focus on that as Jesus would provide the food and drink.

Jesus tells us the truth about everything.

>> No.6837600

Jung
Zizek
Nietzsche
Dogen
Cromwell

Diogenes

The nature of authority and its related properties and attributes.

>> No.6838066

Atticus Finch
Malcom X
Frederick Douglass
William Lloyd Garrison
Harriet Tubman

Butler: Sally Hemings

You know the topic.

>> No.6838385

>>6831530
>Feynman
>Keeping his mouth shut when philosophers discuss physics.

Yeah, you don't know much about Feynman, do you?

>> No.6839673

bump

>> No.6839712

Tyrion Lannister, Master Yoda, Granny Weatherwax, Ozymadias (from Watchmen), and Mister Mxyzptlk.


Butler: Hagiyoshi.

>> No.6839715

>>6838066
kek

>> No.6839727

>>6838385
You don't know much about Quine, Wittgenstein or Hilbert do you?

>> No.6839759

Nietzsche, Mishima, Rommel, Novatore, and Judge Holden. Hemingway is the butler, offering angry drunken soliloquies in response to our arguments.

The topic is war, of course.

>> No.6839766

>>6836775
>Jesus
>Cannibalistic pedo who thought he was Jesus
Kek

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Nietzsche, Bertie Wooster, George Carlin, Oscar Wilde, Slavoj Zizek

Jeeves as the butler of course. That dinner party will be fucking impeccable.

>> No.6839793

>>6832611
>The virtues of modern science and how far can it take humanity

Plato would look at modern science as a diversion, an unhealthy fascination with the material world that obscures the worth of the soul. He would look at scientific reductionists as blind men (in fact, there's a quote that pretty much makes a mockery of the scientific reductionists of his own day).

>> No.6839802

>>6831168
Both my grandfathers
both my grandmothers
My father
My mother

I will serve them.

Topic is family

>> No.6839804

>>6839759

>Judge Holden
>The topic is war, of course.

lol at this cringe as fuck dweeb post

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>>6831168
hitler, jesus, plato, captain ahab, galadriel

Butler: the little prince
topic: illuminati 9/11 bilderberg freemason nwo aliens 'n shit

>> No.6839841

>>6839838
no fuck galadriel and ahab replace them with steve o and gg allin

>> No.6839859

>>6831168
Oscar Wilde
William S. Burroughs
Walt Whitman
Marquis de Sade
Jesus

It will be fun.

>> No.6839861

>>6839859
oh! and the butler is Arthur Rimbaud

>> No.6839975

>>6831168
Vladimir Putin
Hunter S Thompson
Otto Dix
Louis Ferdinand Celine
Richard Nixon

Butler: Johnny Depp

r8

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Nietzsche & Schop obviously for my side
Zapffe and Ligotti for the other side and because they are actually right
Teilhard de Chardin as the deist's advocate and also because madmen are fun
Hawkins is the butler because I like cruel jokes
Copnversation topic: Existentialism

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>>6837536
> Diogenes as Butler
Remember not to eat the mushroom cream soup

>> No.6841955

one last bump